Chaka Demus & pliers Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 grosjean out, alternator failed He seemed to be a wee bit annoyed! Understandably of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 My Alonso, Grosjean 1-2 down the tubes Would quite like Kimi to takeover Hamilton now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Some great driving from Schumacher. He might even finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 To be fair, there are few successful drivers out there who DON'T get frustrated when they have a bad race. I wouldn't say there's an overwhelming amount of arrogance on Vettel - not enough to make me hate him anyway, but that's just me. Sorry, not for me. Both Vettel and Hamilton are horrific for arrogance. Button and Webber have both shown that you can be successful and humble at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Sorry, not for me. Both Vettel and Hamilton are horrific for arrogance. Button and Webber have both shown that you can be successful and humble at the same time. Im with you, I liked Vettel but his finger gesture and his general moodiness does my pan in. Always enjoy him making a bottom of it. I don't want to start on Hamilton because im not sure if i'd be able to stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hamilton dropping through the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Sorry, not for me. Both Vettel and Hamilton are horrific for arrogance. Button and Webber have both shown that you can be successful and humble at the same time. Button is usually not too bad, although he had a petulant rant about the Caterham's when he was struggling for the majority of a race behind Heikki earlier this season. I do like Webber (And Button), but he has had a fair few grumbles in the past. He had a major outburst against Vettel when he was at Toro Rosso on live TV for '******* up' his race, as well as his jibes at Red Bull for apparently being overlooked ('not bad for a number 2 driver'). My point being, everyone has their gripes. Hamilton's lost it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hamilton out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaka Demus & pliers Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hamilton dropping through the pack. And crashing out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hamilton out! Schumacher podium. What a bloody great race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hamilton dropping through the pack. The little dick. Alonso looking like this under his helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Maldonado He would have taken Hamilton before the finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaka Demus & pliers Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Definitely Maldonados fault that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Some great driving from Schumacher. He might even finish on the podium FTFM What a 2nd half to the race!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Maldonado Definitely to blame, but Hamilton's stupid to just turn in when he must have known Maldonado was there. Back to back winners on the predictor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaka Demus & pliers Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Raikkonen and Schumacher on the podium! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Maldonado He would have taken Hamilton before the finish. Agreed - I think he just got agitated by being pushed off the track and lost his composure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Button is usually not too bad, although he had a petulant rant about the Caterham's when he was struggling for the majority of a race behind Heikki earlier this season. I do like Webber (And Button), but he has had a fair few grumbles in the past. He had a major outburst against Vettel when he was at Toro Rosso on live TV for '******* up' his race, as well as his jibes at Red Bull for apparently being overlooked ('not bad for a number 2 driver'). My point being, everyone has their gripes. Hamilton's lost it! Yeah you're right, they all love a hissy fit at some point. However, I'm pretty sure Webber was justified in his rant at Vettel during the Torro Rosso days, and no one can deny that Vettel was always number one in Red Bull's eyes. Remember they only brought one new set-up for the front of a car to a race last year and gave it to Vettel. Hamilton and Vettel both suffer from having been the golden boys of their respective teams for years, primed to be the poster boy from a very young age, and simply cannot handle when things don't go their way. Maybe it's because they don't **** it up very often, but when do they admit to their faults being their downfall? Both have crashed into their own teammates recently, both clearly at fault, and both ridiculously tried to point the finger at Webber and Button who were in my opinion completely blameless. Neither has their team's interests at heart at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishguy Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Definitely to blame, but Hamilton's stupid to just turn in when he must have known Maldonado was there. Back to back winners on the predictor Wouldnt say Hamilton was stupid to turn in, when thats the way the corner turns, would say it was more stupid that Madonado didnt turn in, he went straight on and into the side of Hamilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 i think i have just gained 34 points for the predictor league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 That was an excellent race. All the cars fighting for lap after lap was outstanding. Maldonado is an idiot. He'd have got past Hamilton anyway. I think he'll lose his 10th place. And a big well done to di Resta. 7th and 1 stopping. Superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Wouldnt say Hamilton was stupid to turn in, when thats the way the corner turns, would say it was more stupid that Madonado didnt turn in, he went straight on and into the side of Hamilton. If Maldonado's got the line into the corner, he can do whatever he wants. It's up to Hamilton to pull out. Maldonado has got previous for making contact, but Hamilton is horrendous for turning in on people when they've got the line into the corner. As I've said, he's arrogant enough to think that even though the guy behind is faster and has the lump on him, he believes that if he just turns in the guy will back down. Good on Maldonado for not buckling, Hamilton deserves a grid place penalty in the next race for that. Did it against Massa I think at Monaco last year? And I'm sure I've seen him do it on other occasions. Edit: Actually having seen it again, I'm being harsh on Hamilton. I'd say both were equally at fault. Maldonado could have pulled out but Hamilton also didn't need to turn in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Yeah you're right, they all love a hissy fit at some point. However, I'm pretty sure Webber was justified in his rant at Vettel during the Torro Rosso days, and no one can deny that Vettel was always number one in Red Bull's eyes. Remember they only brought one new set-up for the front of a car to a race last year and gave it to Vettel. Hamilton and Vettel both suffer from having been the golden boys of their respective teams for years, primed to be the poster boy from a very young age, and simply cannot handle when things don't go their way. Maybe it's because they don't **** it up very often, but when do they admit to their faults being their downfall? Both have crashed into their own teammates recently, both clearly at fault, and both ridiculously tried to point the finger at Webber and Button who were in my opinion completely blameless. Neither has their team's interests at heart at all. That's fair. I still feel sorry for Vettel today, as he was cruising, and circustances out of his control have cost him. The second paragraph has been true in many cases before. An obvious example is Michael Schumacher in the Ferrari glory years (2000-2004). While Ferrari had the best car hands-down, and MS was the best driver out there, he and Ross Brawn often manipulated and exploited Rubens Barichello to further massage Schumi's ego. Look no further than the 2002 Austrian GP for that one. Back to today, you can see how much this one means to Fernando. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 If Maldonado's got the line into the corner, he can do whatever he wants. It's up to Hamilton to pull out. Maldonado has got previous for making contact, but Hamilton is horrendous for turning in on people when they've got the line into the corner. As I've said, he's arrogant enough to think that even though the guy behind is faster and has the lump on him, he believes that if he just turns in the guy will back down. Good on Maldonado for not buckling, Hamilton deserves a grid place penalty in the next race for that. Did it against Massa I think at Monaco last year? And I'm sure I've seen him do it on other occasions. I think Maldonado had all 4 wheels of the track so wasn't first into the turn and he should have let Hamilton through. He then would have took him shortly after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I think Maldonado had all 4 wheels of the track so wasn't first into the turn and he should have let Hamilton through. He then would have took him shortly after. Yeah agreed, see my edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 If Maldonado's got the line into the corner, he can do whatever he wants. It's up to Hamilton to pull out. Maldonado has got previous for making contact, but Hamilton is horrendous for turning in on people when they've got the line into the corner. As I've said, he's arrogant enough to think that even though the guy behind is faster and has the lump on him, he believes that if he just turns in the guy will back down. Good on Maldonado for not buckling, Hamilton deserves a grid place penalty in the next race for that. Did it against Massa I think at Monaco last year? And I'm sure I've seen him do it on other occasions. Completely wrong. Maldonardo was off the track, if you go off the track you are not allowed to gain a place. Maldo must receive a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 SEE MY EDIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Is that the first home race winner since Massa won at the 2008 Brazilian GP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 BBC reporting that Schumi may be investigated for using DRS too early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 SEE MY EDIT! Still incorrect - Hamilton is NOT at fault, Maldo was off the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 SEE MY EDIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Still incorrect - Hamilton is NOT at fault, Maldo was off the track. After being pushed off the track. Both drivers had a certain bit of blame so therefore a racing incident. I don't understand why every incident nowadays seems to need a scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 At the halfway point I had all of the top 4 correct in the correct order, as well as 6th and 8th. Why god, why!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18571190 The commentary has a touch of the Neville's about it at collision point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Quite an entertaining race today. Haven't watched much recently but glad I saw it. Re Hamilton I thought he should have just let Maldonado passed. If it hadn't happened there it would have just been somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaka Demus & pliers Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Quite an entertaining race today. Haven't watched much recently but glad I saw it. Re Hamilton I thought he should have just let Maldonado passed. If it hadn't happened there it would have just been somewhere else. Best race of what has been a really good season so far imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Couldnt help but laugh at Hamilton at the end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Couldnt help but laugh at Hamilton at the end! Aye, I found it quite amusing. His interview on the Forum was rubbish. I was hoping for him to have a go at Maldonado, but no such luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaka Demus & pliers Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Aye, I found it quite amusing. His interview on the Forum was rubbish. I was hoping for him to have a go at Maldonado, but no such luck. He'd be a bit of a hypocrite the number of times he has done similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 He'd be a bit of a hypocrite the number of times he has done similar My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 He'd be a bit of a hypocrite the number of times he has done similar My thoughts exactly. When did Hamilton run in to anyone after he had been off the track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I think Maldonado had all 4 wheels of the track so wasn't first into the turn and he should have let Hamilton through. He then would have took him shortly after. This, Hamilton was on the track on the raving line, Maldonado off track and speared into side of him. 100% maldonados fault .. amateur stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishguy Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Is that the first home race winner since Massa won at the 2008 Brazilian GP? Techincally no its not, as this was the European Grand Prix and not the Spannish Grand Prix. Something that will annoy a few people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Techincally no its not, as this was the European Grand Prix and not the Spannish Grand Prix. Something that will annoy a few people Ok, I guess that means that as Vettel won it last year and the year before, he is European, so it's a home win for him in both these races? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Is the European Grand Prix is a 'home' race for any driver from Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishguy Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Ok, I guess that means that as Vettel won it last year and the year before, he is European, so it's a home win for him in both these races? Thats why I said it will annoy a few people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiky Baby Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 :omg!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 maldonado given 20 seconds time penalty for the crash with hamilton. dropping him from 10th to 12th meaning senna gets a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 maldonado given 20 seconds time penalty for the crash with hamilton. dropping him from 10th to 12th meaning senna gets a point What a joke, He should be given at least a 10 place grid drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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