shaun.lawson Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Feck that I know they hate England - but everyone hates England. And besides - there's a beautiful Welsh lass who I'm thinking of when I type this; someone I used to know, but fell out of touch with. It'd make her century if Wales won this: she could probably die happy as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 They've got my support for the rest of the tournament. Wales are the only country in the northern hemisphere to whom rugby really, really matters. The same is true of part of France, but nowhere near all of it. Wales winning the World Cup would be sensational. I'd love to see them do it too. FFS, you must be the only Englishman on the planet that will support the welsh. Unsurprisingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 FFS, you must be the only Englishman on the planet that will support the welsh. Unsurprisingly You know me... And if France end up in the final, I'd support them there too. 'Mon the northern hemisphere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Nae knighthood this year...unless Wales win the Cup. Sir Graham Henry KNZM is quite possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 'Mon the northern hemisphere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 When England won it in '03, Chirac - whose boys had been stuffed good and proper by us in the semis - congratulated Blair on a "victory for the northern hemisphere." The look on the face of the BBC newsreader as he revealed this to the nation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Hope Wales get hammered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Rider: "England as a squad of players are better than this, aren't they?" Pienaar: "Not on this performance, they're not". Spot on, Franko. That did make me chuckle. Also listening to radio pundits yesterday talk about the England v Ireland semi final as though it was a foregone conclusion. Yet again, be it rugby or football, English pundits, by and large, cannot see the failings in their teams. Its laughable. Living in Cardiff, it'll be carnage down here for the semi-final and I hope the Welsh make the final, the country will come to an absolute halt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWM Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Hope Wales get hammered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 And here goes jonno - we reached the quarters and won our pool 4-0. Jesus wept. He needs hard questions asked of him. Their time out there's been a disgrace Congratulations Martin, 4 from 4 in the group and a quarter final place, from a country with more players than ALL OTHER COUNTRIES AT THE WORLD CUP PUT TOGETHER! Even by English football standards at World Cups that is an unbelievable underachievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 On reflection, I'm disappointed England didn't get through. A semi with Wales could go either way. And then the first 50+point destruction on a RWC Final would have been something worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micole Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Well that's the RWC over the media will loose interest now that their beloved England are oot! good luck to the Welsh in the rest of the tournament , still think the AB's will piss it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say What Again Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Congratulations Martin, 4 from 4 in the group and a quarter final place, from a country with more players than ALL OTHER COUNTRIES AT THE WORLD CUP PUT TOGETHER! That can't be true. Surely? Regardless, I'm off to meet an English mate in half an hour and I'll be using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Fascinating third quarter-final in progress: the youthful Wallabies v the ultra-experienced Springboks. At one stage, Australia looked poised to rocket away with it - but they're being monstered up front, can't win any ball at all, and are currently disappearing before our very eyes. The last two defending World Champions have made it back to the final. Can South Africa do it as well? If they get through, New Zealand will be very anxious over the next week - because the Boks have that priceless quality which all successful tournament teams have. Stickability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Aussies sneak ahead. It's been all South Africa too. 8mins left. Tense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Dreadful dreadful game, tense, How did the Saffers lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I have no idea how Australia won that game. Possession: all South Africa. Territory: all South Africa (76-24!!!). Points? 11-9 to Australia. I think the referee had something to do with it too: he was appalling, and the Wallabies benefited from his weird calls time and time again. But on the bright side, it now looks like the four purest rugby teams in the event are all going to be in the semis - a huge change from 2007, and total vindication of the adjustments in the laws since then. Meanwhile, this is Australia's record in World Cup knock-out matches against their Tri-Nations rivals: 1991: New Zealand (SF) W 16-6 1999: South Africa (SF) W 27-21 2003: New Zealand (SF) W 22-10 2011: South Africa (QF) W 11-9 That's phenomenal. They only lose to European sides when it most matters at World Cups! Which is an alarming statistic for the hosts to ponder; but by the same token, the Wallabies made so many tackles today, raising it another level next weekend is a colossal ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Well done the Aussies. Now for the Argies to make it a quadruple incidence of group runners-up making the semis! The All Chokes are not going to win this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Well done the Aussies. Now for the Argies to make it a quadruple incidence of group runners-up making the semis! The All Chokes are not going to win this... Oh yes they are. Probably. Say this though. If New Zealand don't win the event, I'm starting to think Wales are next in the pecking order. Which is extraordinary, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 This world cup has been pish so far. I watched the super league final last night and I thought that was more entertaining than any game in this tournament. When is this shit gonna get better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 This world cup has been pish so far. I watched the super league final last night and I thought that was more entertaining than any game in this tournament. When is this shit gonna get better? Rugby league played between two high quality, evenly matched sides will always be faster and more exciting than rugby union. The problem is there are far too many blow-outs in league, especially at international level: the conclusion being that to reach that kind of level is beyond all but a very few teams. I've found this RWC underwhelming too - but it's been far higher quality than four years ago, which struck me as rugby's answer to Italia 90 (all drama, tension and upsets; no entertainment). Maybe we're both a bit disillusioned by this event because of the time difference? It's hard to really get into it when matches are kicking off at 6am. I do think, though, that this has been the most even World Cup yet - and Wales-South Africa, Ireland-Australia, Tonga-France and Wales-Ireland were scarcely dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Rugby league played between two high quality, evenly matched sides will always be faster and more exciting than rugby union. The problem is there are far too many blow-outs in league, especially at international level: the conclusion being that to reach that kind of level is beyond all but a very few teams. I've found this RWC underwhelming too - but it's been far higher quality than four years ago, which struck me as rugby's answer to Italia 90 (all drama, tension and upsets; no entertainment). Maybe we're both a bit disillusioned by this event because of the time difference? It's hard to really get into it when matches are kicking off at 6am. I do think, though, that this has been the most even World Cup yet - and Wales-South Africa, Ireland-Australia, Tonga-France and Wales-Ireland were scarcely dull. Rugby League is shite because I never played it. It is also a completely different game and comparisons should not be made. Chalk and Cheese. It is pretty much impossible to focus on a game this early and sober though which probably explains why I enjoyed yesterdays game so much, full of Chablis, Brie and Grapes... Bring on the bevvy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I'm actually pretty relieved the We aren't playing the all blacks here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I'm actually pretty relieved the We aren't playing the all blacks here.. You're not alone, we'd get murdered! On another note, that wasn't the Haka as I remember it, have they changed it a bit or do they have more than one version? (knowing this pc mad planet we live on they were probably forced to change it due to offending someone in Outer Mongolia) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 You're not alone, we'd get murdered! On another note, that wasn't the Haka as I remember it, have they changed it a bit or do they have more than one version? (knowing this pc mad planet we live on they were probably forced to change it due to offending someone in Outer Mongolia) I think they do a few different versions these days mate... I've seen at least 3 different ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I think they do a few different versions these days mate... I've seen at least 3 different ones Ah right, I didn't realise that, I must admit that if I was facing up to them doing that then I'd probably have keek running down the inside of my legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Rugby league played between two high quality, evenly matched sides will always be faster and more exciting than rugby union. The problem is there are far too many blow-outs in league, especially at international level: the conclusion being that to reach that kind of level is beyond all but a very few teams. I've found this RWC underwhelming too - but it's been far higher quality than four years ago, which struck me as rugby's answer to Italia 90 (all drama, tension and upsets; no entertainment). Maybe we're both a bit disillusioned by this event because of the time difference? It's hard to really get into it when matches are kicking off at 6am. I do think, though, that this has been the most even World Cup yet - and Wales-South Africa, Ireland-Australia, Tonga-France and Wales-Ireland were scarcely dull. International league is like the SPL. Aus & NZ = Old Firm, England = Hearts and everyone else is crap. I don't think the time is an really an issue for me. I was really into the '03 world cup. I stopped watching for a while after the Scotland-Argentina match. That pissed me off so much. Taking a drop goal instead of a try even though it did not give a big enough cushion. Conceding the try on the restart. Attempting a winning drop goal in a horrible position when he could've just taken the tackle and got in a better position. Losing by one point. Sorry, I needed to get that off my chest. I'm actually pretty relieved the We aren't playing the all blacks here.. Yeah, that would be even more painful to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Ah right, I didn't realise that, I must admit that if I was facing up to them doing that then I'd probably have keek running down the inside of my legs. They have a load of different dances that they have done over the years, the one or part of the one done today incorporated the old throat cutting scene at the end, they seem to prefer this one but it is frowned upon in most other civilised countries, strangely enough.... I played against a team from NZ that did it years ago, we all thought it was highly amusing at the time, this changed after the 1st tackle they battered us by over 50 points and I dont think we even scored a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 oooh interesting now come on the Pumas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Could we have had a chance against NZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 All blacks without dan carter and an injured macaw are not the same force... Is anyone else missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 They have a load of different dances that they have done over the years, the one or part of the one done today incorporated the old throat cutting scene at the end, they seem to prefer this one but it is frowned upon in most other civilised countries, strangely enough.... Quite. Always cracks me up how seriously New Zealand take it all - and how they become if their opponents don't kneel at their feet and worship them. New Zealand pretend it's all about paying homage to the Maori tradition; actually, it's about getting a competitive advantage before the game has even kicked off. And shamelessly commercialising said advantage into the bargain. My favourite response to the haka remains this one. Look at Chabal at the end. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s65zLqb_xnc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Could we have had a chance against NZ? No. And New Zealand will still win this one by 15-20 in the end anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I really enjoy the haka, one of those things that add a bit of flair to the sport.. I also really like the French national anthem... Especially after yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 what a pen kick that was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 No. And New Zealand will still win this one by 15-20 in the end anyway. I'm surprised you get any joy out of sport Shaun, when everything is seemingly so predictable. I tell you what, open up an online betting account and stick a ?1,000 on it, on an in-play bet. As an aside, the Argentinians organise their rugby in a way that the SRU should have followed. No attempt at having professional teams that play in front of two men and a dog, as a result all their top players play at a better level by heading off to England and France to play professionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 That can't be the same kicker who missed a boat load against the team who just got beaten even though they are better than this favourites who have many gears they could just not find... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Could we have had a chance against NZ? We'd have two chances, little and feck all mate The Puma's have played very well I think, I was expecting the All Blacks to be out of sight by half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I reckon the Wallabies will beat the Kiwis in the semi final, they play each other so often that the result between the two nations is extremely hard to predict, a bit like when England play France. (or when Scotland play Italy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 NZ won't lose from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 That'll be that then, well played Argentina though, gave it a good go, but I still haven't seen anything that Wales should be scared of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 That'll be that then, well played Argentina though, gave it a good go, but I still haven't seen anything that Wales should be scared of. France will knock out the Welsh next week mate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 - not a chance Wales will beat the all blacks IMO... I fancy France to get to the final as well.. NZ vs wallabies is 50:50 especially with carter out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 - not a chance Wales will beat the all blacks IMO... I fancy France to get to the final as well.. NZ vs wallabies is 50:50 especially with carter out I thought the Aussies got very lucky today, can't see them doing NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I hope the sheep shaggers go far in the competition. Nice to see at least one of the home nations do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I'm surprised you get any joy out of sport Shaun, when everything is seemingly so predictable. I tell you what, open up an online betting account and stick a ?1,000 on it, on an in-play bet. As an aside, the Argentinians organise their rugby in a way that the SRU should have followed. No attempt at having professional teams that play in front of two men and a dog, as a result all their top players play at a better level by heading off to England and France to play professionally. Good job I didn't really, isn't it? But I've seen so many games like that before. Superficially, the underdogs seem to be in contention at half time - but they're not really, as they inevitably tire over the last 20 minutes. Your aside is a really interesting shout. Argentina have effectively usurped Scotland's position in the Big Eight; and at this tournament, taken Scotland's traditional role too. Play gallantly, lose comfortably in the quarters. But the idea of any home union actually refusing to have a professional league seems like a heck of a stretch to me: Argentina would have one too if the money was there. They simply make a wonderful virtue of a necessity. I love watching them though - and yet again at an RWC, well done them. Now that they're joining the Tri Nations, they can surely only get better too. As for next weekend: we have two 50-50 contests in which anything can happen. But given that, pre-tournament, I correctly tipped all four semi-finalists to make it (), albeit in the wrong order (), I have to stick with a New Zealand-France final. I'd much rather it was Australia-Wales, though. Much will be made of the AB's struggles today. But for once, I do believe they're pacing themselves at a World Cup. They didn't play at all well, yet won a quarter-final by 23 points, and are on home soil. That's a fantastic position to be in TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Tell you what, with the argies joining the tri nations, Scotland's standing is going to fall further. At the next world cup they'll start with NZ, Aus, SA, Eng, Fra, Wales and Arg all superior to them. Wonder if anyone at the SRU has a plan of attack. We look finished as a serious force tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 France will knock out the Welsh next week mate.... I'm not so sure, the Welsh have impressed me more than France have so far who are very much a Jekyll and Hyde type of side, I reckon Wales would have taken care of England pretty comfortably too. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict a Wales v Australia final, with Australia winning it, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I'm not so sure, the Welsh have impressed me more than France have so far who are very much a Jekyll and Hyde type of side, I reckon Wales would have taken care of England pretty comfortably too. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict a Wales v Australia final, with Australia winning it, sadly. Because of the monumental effort it would take to beat SA and NZ in successive weeks, I can't see AUS winning the final, even if they get there. As for France: thing is John, they still haven't played well yet. They were just decent yesterday - but at every RWC, they have a full 80 minute performance in them. I fear it will come next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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