Das Root Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Big gain for SNP, Lib Dems take a hammering. Lost their deposit. Wonder if that will be reflected nationwide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Would've been nice if he'd analysed the seat where I live - it's apparently the 4th closest marginal - interesting because it's been a liberal seat for, I think, two terms now. The 2007 margin would've been between Labour & Lib Dem. Not sure if the public anywhere trust these parties now. Can see it being close between Labour and SNP in Dunfermline. The moving of the boundaries muddies the water in a lot of cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToYouToMe Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 We need good parliamentarians, good orators, controversial voices. No matter what you think of him, Galloway ticks all of those boxes. Yeah, that is what we really need at this time of financial crisis. A guy who is good at talking a load of guff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Big gain for SNP, Lib Dems take a hammering. Mike Russell crowing already, but the snp vote seems to be an almost wholesale drift from the lib dems to the nats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Lost their deposit. Wonder if that will be reflected nationwide? I think it will, they've taken a beating in areas south of the border as well. Like others have said, Lib Dem > SNP vote shift looks like it might be replicated across the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Yeah, that is what we really need at this time of financial crisis. A guy who is good at talking a load of guff. The only person that gives Salmond a run for his money in the chamber is Annabel Goldie, having another member that can match Salmond rhetorically is no bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Oofrt! Two wallopers from the edinburgh count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Mike Russell crowing already, but the snp vote seems to be an almost wholesale drift from the lib dems to the nats. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out in some of the less secure Labour seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Yeah, that is what we really need at this time of financial crisis. A guy who is good at talking a load of guff. Have you ever actually listened to him? Putting aside the fact you've obviously bought the tory narrative on "financial crisis" I'd counter that opposition to the wholesale slashing of public services is exactly what we need at this time, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 It'll be interesting to see how that plays out in some of the less secure Labour seats. I think it will play out in the same way. A Labour vote "holding" essentially, while the LD vote transfers pretty much intact over to the SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Really hope Galloway gets a seat and Alex Salmond remains FM. It'll be brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToYouToMe Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Have you ever actually listened to him? Putting aside the fact you've obviously bought the tory narrative on "financial crisis" I'd counter that opposition to the wholesale slashing of public services is exactly what we need at this time, yes. Back in the real world...there is a massive national debt to deal with, run up by years of mismanagement by successive Labour governments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright1989 Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 For some complete novice in this subject does the last vote give more seats to the SNP? Or is it one seat for Labour? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zibi Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Almond Valley SNP 58% Labour 34% Linlithgow SNP 54% Labour 38% Falkirk East SNP 53% Labour 33% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Fabiani victorious against Kerr? Ooft! That's him gone if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 if the likes of andy kerr do actually lose their seats it could be an interesting evening. i do wonder just what i'll wake up to tomorrow. Thats a swing of around (atleast) 2,000 votes. Ian Gray is at about 2,500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 For some complete novice in this subject does the last vote give more seats to the SNP? Or is it one seat for Labour? Thanks in advance. The last declaration was a seat for Labour, although the Liberal Democrat vote dropped massively while the SNP vote was a lot higher. If Lib Dem voters have jumped to the Nats then it could be very influential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Back in the real world...there is a massive national debt to deal with, run up by years of mismanagement by successive Labour governments. Do you really intend to turn this thread into yet another debate on cuts/debts/deficits? Poor show. We can if you want, but there's been a million other threads on which to debate this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Here we go....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 Do you really intend to turn this thread into yet another debate on cuts/debts/deficits? Poor show. We can if you want, but there's been a million other threads on which to debate this. No we can ******* not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright1989 Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Glad that's been cleared up, thanks. Trying to get my head round this as I've took no interest in politics since recently. Found myself watching question time quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Labour > SNP voting by the sounds of it in a safe Labour seat. Again, if this is indicative of the rest of the country it could be some result we're looking at tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 kerr out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToYouToMe Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 East Kilbride away, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Kerr is gone! SNP gain East Kilbride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 John Houston is LOVING his moment in the spotlight. Andy Kerr out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 I think it will play out in the same way. A Labour vote "holding" essentially, while the LD vote transfers pretty much intact over to the SNP. Maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 No we can ******* not. Yes, you're right, we can't. I just wanted to make it clear I wasn't running from a battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstone Wonder Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Apparently Kerr isn't on the list so that's the end of him. Gray's been an absolute holocaust for Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! GIRUY Kerr! Please don't tell me this dick is on the List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Apparently Kerr isn't on the list so that's the end of him. Gray's been an absolute holocaust for Labour. Gray and Baillie are not on the list either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 Just heard on facebook that word on the street is that the SNP will take Edinburgh West. That will be astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Maybe not. Again, in EK, 7% away from LD to SNP. It's the same picture, the majority of the LDs votes switching over to the SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Just heard on facebook that word on the street is that the SNP will take Edinburgh West. That will be astonishing. Who's the incumbent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstone Wonder Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 How many times tonight are we going to hear "obviously this is a difficult night for the party, there's no getting away from that" from a Lib Dem flunky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 Who's the incumbent? Margaret Smith. Lib Dem. Has been a Lib Dem stronghold for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Again, in EK, 7% away from LD to SNP. It's the same picture, the majority of the LDs votes switching over to the SNP. Aye, 3% drop for Labour in a safe seat is shocking though. Remember, Kerr had been sounded out as a fallback for Gray, now he's not even on the list so that's a massive hit for them. Even Gray's seat was by no means certain before tonight, looks like he could be out on his arse if this trend continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Who's the incumbent? Margaret Smith (LibDem) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstone Wonder Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Margaret Smith is the Lib Dem incumbent. It's the 3rd safest seat for them apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 Just glad I never got quoted there... Mike Crockart is the incumbent MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Aye, 3% drop for Labour in a safe seat is shocking though. Remember, Kerr had been sounded out as a fallback for Gray, now he's not even on the list so that's a massive hit for them. Even Gray's seat was by no means certain before tonight, looks like he could be out on his arse if this trend continues. Very true. But 3% drops in a safe seat not usually enough to turn the seat, so you take drops in the labour vote, probably as a result of "the gray factor" and then add on an even bigger switch from LD to SNP and you could well have a massive number of shock results. The labour policy in respect of not standing on the list and in constituencies might well be given a rethink after tonight. Interesting to hear the views about the fact Fabiani has been "shadowing as MSP for last 12 years" as she was on the list, bit of straw clutching but it was labour's own policy so they can hardly complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Just glad I never got quoted there... Mike Crockart is the incumbent MP. Is this incumbent a cross dresser maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 Well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Another for the nationalists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi Skacel Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 The returning officer looks the same person all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 The returning officer looks the same person all the time That's because he's done 2 out of the 3 so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Down south, 12 of the 13 LibDem Councilors in Nick Clegg's own constituency have lost their seats. I think he's killed his party stone dead, so how long can he last, and how long can the ConDem coalition last now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 another snp gain. labour and lib dems to be obliterated. Could be an astonishing night for snp. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 The returning officer looks the same person all the time i think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToYouToMe Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Total rout on the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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