**The NFL Thread**

[Sterling Archer]

I'm going to bed. See you guys on the other side, good luck in the playoffs.

[Peebo]

**** me, Griffin fumbles it and still completes the pass for a TD...

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Start of the draft order has now been decided

 

1. Broncos (through Cowboys)

2. Giants

3. Bucs (through Steamers)

4. Bucs

5. Pirates

6. Pirates

[Peebo]

Not that makes a flying shite of a difference to anything, but it seems slightly odd that an offensive player scores a TD on an offensive play yet gets no points for it.

[Sterling Archer]

Not that makes a flying shite of a difference to anything, but it seems slightly odd that an offensive player scores a TD on an offensive play yet gets no points for it.

 

What happened?

 

Oh and congrats Boo (and Scott). My division record this year has been abysmal.

 

Ill be back next year with a new look roster.

[Sterling Archer]

Nessies

Seahawks on bye

 

Nessies plays winner of Thunder vs Falcons

Seahawks plays winner of Bengals vs Chargers

 

Draft order (original picks, you guys can sort through the trades):

 

Cowboys

Giants

Steamers

Bucs

Pirates

Steelers

Patriots

Broncos

Colts

Buckeyes

 

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

Will try and confirm opponents later. Suffice to say intra division will be JKB v HMFC and 1902 v FTH.

[Larry]

Booboys knocked me out the play offs last year. No doubt a repeat is on the cards, 1-3 record versus him

[Sterling Archer]

I'm quite looking forward to a third placed schedule

 

[Sterling Archer]

How I'm feeling

 

[Larry]

The 3rd placed teams might actually be stronger than the 1st placed teams next year

[Sterling Archer]

The 3rd placed teams might actually be stronger than the 1st placed teams next year

 

I'd say the balance has shifted and you've actually got a lot of v.good teams now

[Rick Grimes]

So what's the thoughts on the odds for the league champion then?

I'd probably put Dizzle's Seahawks as favourite, then the Chargers & Nessies as second/third favourites.

 

The Bengals have still got to be in with a shout though. Interestingly, I've never lost to either the Thunder or the Falcons - what a time it would be to give it up!

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

So what's the thoughts on the odds for the league champion then?

I'd probably put Dizzle's Seahawks as favourite, then the Chargers & Nessies as second/third favourites.

 

The Bengals have still got to be in with a shout though. Interestingly, I've never lost to either the Thunder or the Falcons - what a time it would be to give it up!

 

I think Dizzle will win it.

 

Pity we won't hear about it! :'>

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

The 3rd placed teams might actually be stronger than the 1st placed teams next year

 

Indeed. I just realised having a 2nd place schedule might actually be an advantage next season!

[Rick Grimes]

I think Dizzle will win it.

 

Pity we won't hear about it! :' />

 

 

Is he perma-banned?

 

Maybe he could communicate via the medium of shan trade offers....

[Sterling Archer]

I'm having a difficult time choosing a favourite to be honest, if a team gets hot at the right time they can win it all. That seems to have happened for the Falcons over the last few weeks.

 

One bad game and you're out so obviously those with a bye have a huge advantage.

 

Let's just hope for some tightly contested games and high scores. I'll cry if I outscore everyone I would have faced

[Sterling Archer]

Is he perma-banned?

 

Maybe he could communicate via the medium of shan trade offers....

 

Aye. I'll be sure to get him to send me his victory speech if he does win though.

 

That's me sorted the consolation bowl and I'll work on getting the season awards done later as well.

[Sterling Archer]

Here's your 2012 Awards Winners:

 

Division Titles

 

JKB - Invernessies

FTH - Saughton Seahawks

1902 - Queensferry Falcons

HMFC - Craigentinny Chargers

 

Regular Season MVP - Drew Brees, Jambo Broncos 305.26

 

Highest Total Season Points - Kaunas Buckeyes - 1582.78

Lowest Total Season Points - Corstorphine Cowboys - 1060.62

 

Highest One Week Total - Saughton Seahawks, Week 10 - 176.96

Lowest One Week Total - Melbourne Patriots, Week 11 - 44.74

 

One Week Player Total - Doug Martin, Jambo Broncos, Week 9 - 53.20

 

Biggest Margin of Victory - Buckeyes over Broncos, Week 6 (won by 95.52 points)

Lowest Margin of Victory - Patriots over Bucs, Week 4 (won by 0.02 points)

 

Whoopsie Award (highest scoring benched player) - Kaunas Buckeyes, Robert Griffin III, Week 11 - 40.40

[Larry]

6 pretty fairly matched teams I think.

 

Falcons have been the surprise team this year. Completely proved me wrong after I predicted them to be last

[Sterling Archer]

Let's just hope they go into the ******* toilet next season

[Rick Grimes]

Its Inver Nessies

 

 

kthxbai

[Sterling Archer]

I'm adding a vote to the league site regarding Kicker scoring. I realised earlier this year that it's not the way I had meant to set it up (yes it's taken me 3 years to notice) and I'm proposing changing it.

 

I'll need every league member to vote on this issue with a simple yes or no.

 

Currently we give 3 points for a field goal under 50 yards and 5 points for a field goal 50+ yards.

 

I'm proposing we move to a decimal system.

 

3 pts for any field goal up to 30 yards and then .1 points for every additional yard e.g. 37yarder = 3.7 points, 45 yarder = 4.5 points.

 

Thoughts?

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

2013 Opponents:

 

JKB Division

 

Corstorphine Steelers (J3):

Home: Goldenacre Giants, Inver Nessies, Melbourne Patriots, Kaunas Buckeyes, Forrester Park Thunder, Prestonpans Pirates, Corstorphine Cowboys

Away: Goldenacre Giants, Inver Nessies, Melbourne Patriots, Jambo Broncos, Craigentinny Chargers, Cleveland Steamers

 

Goldenacre Giants (J4):

Home: Corstorphine Steelers, Inver Nessies, Melbourne Patriots, Dunedin Buccaneers, Craigentinny Chargers, Cleveland Steamers

Away: Corstorphine Steelers, Inver Nessies, Melbourne Patriots, Corstorphine Cowboys, Forrester Park Thunder, Prestonpans Pirates, Jambo Broncos

 

Inver Nessies (J1):

Home: Corstorphine Steelers, Goldenacre Giants, Melbourne Patriots, Queensferry Falcons, Craigentinny Chargers, Cleveland Steamers, Darth Ewing Colts

Away: Corstorphine Steelers, Goldenacre Giants, Melbourne Patriots, Saughton Seahawks, Forrester Park Thunder, Prestonpans Pirates

 

Melbourne Patriots (J2):

Home: Corstorphine Steelers, Goldenacre Giants, Inver Nessies, BooBoys Bengals, Forrester Park Thunder, Prestonpans Pirates

Away: Corstorphine Steelers, Goldenacre Giants, Inver Nessies, Darth Ewing Colts, Craigentinny Chargers, Cleveland Steamers, Saughton Seahawks

 

FTH Division

 

Corstorphine Cowboys (F4):

Home: Darth Ewing Colts, Jambo Broncos, Saughton Seahawks, Goldenacre Giants, BooBoys Bengals, Kaunas Buckeyes

Away: Darth Ewing Colts, Jambo Broncos, Saughton Seahawks, Cleveland Steamers, Queensferry Falcons, Dunedin Buccaneers, Corstorphine Steelers

 

 

Darth Ewing Colts (F2):

Home: Corstorphine Cowboys, Jambo Broncos, Saughton Seahawks, Melbourne Patriots, Queensferry Falcons, Dunedin Buccaneers

Away: Corstorphine Cowboys, Jambo Broncos, Saughton Seahawks, Forrester Park Thunder, BooBoys Bengals, Kaunas Buckeyes, Inver Nessies

 

Jambo Broncos (F3):

Home: Corstorphine Cowboys, Darth Ewing Colts, Saughton Seahawks, Corstorphine Steelers, Queensferry Falcons, Dunedin Buccaneers, Goldenacre Giants

Away: Corstorphine Cowboys, Darth Ewing Colts, Saughton Seahawks, Prestonpans Pirates, BooBoys Bengals, Kaunas Buckeyes

 

Saughton Seahawks (F1):

Home: Corstorphine Cowboys, Darth Ewing Colts, Jambo Broncos, Inver Nessies, BooBoys Bengals, Kaunas Buckeyes, Melbourne Patriots

Away: Corstorphine Cowboys, Darth Ewing Colts, Jambo Broncos, Craigentinny Chargers, Queensferry Falcons, Dunedin Buccaneers

 

1902 Division:

 

BooBoys Bengals (N2):

Home: Dunedin Buccaneers, Kaunas Buckeyes, Queensferry Falcons, Forrester Park Thunder, Darth Ewing Colts, Jambo Broncos

Away: Dunedin Buccaneers, Kaunas Buckeyes, Queensferry Falcons, Melbourne Patriots, Saughton Seahawks, Corstorphine Cowboys, Craigentinny Chargers

 

Dunedin Buccaneers (N4):

Home: BooBoys Bengals, Kaunas Buckeyes, Queensferry Falcons, Cleveland Steamers, Saughton Seahawks, Corstorphine Cowboys

Away: BooBoys Bengals, Kaunas Buckeyes, Queensferry Falcons, Goldenacre Giants, Darth Ewing Colts, Jambo Broncos, Prestonpans Pirates

 

Kaunas Buckeyes (N3):

Home: BooBoys Bengals, Dunedin Buccaneers, Queensferry Falcons, Prestonpans Pirates, Darth Ewing Colts, Jambo Broncos, Cleveland Steamers

Away: BooBoys Bengals, Dunedin Buccaneers, Queensferry Falcons, Corstorphine Steelers, Saughton Seahawks, Corstorphine Cowboys

 

Queensferry Falcons (N1):

Home: BooBoys Bengals, Dunedin Buccaneers, Kaunas Buckeyes, Craigentinny Chargers, Saughton Seahawks, Corstorphine Cowboys, Forrester Park Thunder

Away: BooBoys Bengals, Dunedin Buccaneers, Kaunas Buckeyes, Inver Nessies, Darth Ewing Colts, Jambo Broncos

 

HMFC Division:

 

Cleveland Steamers (H4):

Home: Craigentinny Chargers, Forrester Park Thunder, Prestonpans Pirates, Corstorphine Cowboys, Melbourne Patriots, Corstorphine Steelers

Away: Craigentinny Chargers, Forrester Park Thunder, Prestonpans Pirates, Dunedin Buccaneers, Inver Nessies, Goldenacre Giants, Kaunas Buckeyes

 

Craigentinny Chargers (H1):

Home: Cleveland Steamers, Forrester Park Thunder, Prestonpans Pirates, Saughton Seahawks, Melbourne Patriots, Corstorphine Steelers, BooBoys Bengals

Away: Cleveland Steamers, Forrester Park Thunder, Prestonpans Pirates, Queensferry Falcons, Inver Nessies, Goldenacre Giants

 

Forrester Park Thunder (H2):

Home: Cleveland Steamers, Craigentinny Chargers, Prestonpans Pirates, Darth Ewing Colts, Inver Nessies, Goldenacre Giants

Away: Cleveland Steamers, Craigentinny Chargers, Prestonpans Pirates, BooBoys Bengals, Melbourne Patriots, Corstorphine Steelers, Queensferry Falcons

 

Prestonpans Pirates (H3):

Home: Cleveland Steamers, Craigentinny Chargers, Forrester Park Thunder, Jambo Broncos, Inver Nessies, Goldenacre Giants, Dunedin Buccaneers

Away: Cleveland Steamers, Craigentinny Chargers, Forrester Park Thunder, Kaunas Buckeyes, Melbourne Patriots, Corstorphine Steelers

[Rick Grimes]

Geoff - does this have that Conference idea built in? We were going to take a vote on that during the close season.

 

Donnie - if Geoff says aye to the above, how does this affect play-offs? As for the kickers, your idea sounds good - certainly need a bonus above 50 yards. Maybe just a straight 3-4-5 points system for 30-40-50 yards though.

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

Geoff - does this have that Conference idea built in? We were going to take a vote on that during the close season.

 

Donnie - if Geoff says aye to the above, how does this affect play-offs? As for the kickers, your idea sounds good - certainly need a bonus above 50 yards. Maybe just a straight 3-4-5 points system for 30-40-50 yards though.

 

I've not built any conference system in yet. My initial plan was 3 seasons of division v division, so our division would face FTH next season to complete the round robin. I'm happy to alter opponents accordingly if we vote that way. I personally would vote against it because in essence if we had two conferences we could end up having fixed opponents in 10 games out of 13 (Div x 2, Conf x 1) which to me seems a lot.

 

Donnie - probably worth running the vote for this after the playoffs finish.

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

Oh, and on kickers, I think the 30/40/50 system that is suggested is cleaner.

[Rick Grimes]

I've not built any conference system in yet. My initial plan was 3 seasons of division v division, so our division would face FTH next season to complete the round robin. I'm happy to alter opponents accordingly if we vote that way. I personally would vote against it because in essence if we had two conferences we could end up having fixed opponents in 10 games out of 13 (Div x 2, Conf x 1) which to me seems a lot.

 

Donnie - probably worth running the vote for this after the playoffs finish.

 

Agreed its good to finish the round robin of the divisions. As for the conference idea, it would mean that your 3 'free' games were against the similarly placed teams for balance & we'd build up more divison/conference rivalries... we can vote on it tho.

[Sterling Archer]

So we'd be looking at two "conferences" of 8 teams each?

 

From that 8, 3 could make the playoffs. In terms of playoffs I'd say:

 

Week 14:

 

Best record from a division winner in conferences gets a bye (#1 seed in conference)

 

Other division winner plays "wildcard" on same criteria as before.

 

Week 15:

 

#1 Seed plays winner of matchup from week 14 to determine conference champion

 

Week 16:

 

Conference champions face off for League title.

 

TBH Not much would need changed.

[Larry]

I HATE the current point system for kickers, so would definitely be up for a change to a fairer system. The fact you can get an extra 2 points for a field goal just 1 yard longer than a 49 yard effort is daft. Prefer the decimal system suggested

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

Agreed its good to finish the round robin of the divisions. As for the conference idea, it would mean that your 3 'free' games were against the similarly placed teams for balance & we'd build up more divison/conference rivalries... we can vote on it tho.

 

Agree there are pros to it too. How do we determine the conferences though? Best and worst combined division records over 3 seasons in one, with 2nd and 3rd in the other?

[Sterling Archer]

Do we redo the conferences/divisions from the start or do people already feel an element of rivalry within them?

 

FWIW MFL now has a "Career Records" report that pulls the win % and Points for of the teams across league history.

 

We could just assign new conferences based upon that.

 

1 goes to a

2 to b

3 to a

 

etc.

[Rick Grimes]

So we'd be looking at two "conferences" of 8 teams each?

 

From that 8, 3 could make the playoffs. In terms of playoffs I'd say:

 

Week 14:

 

Best record from a division winner in conferences gets a bye (#1 seed in conference)

 

Other division winner plays "wildcard" on same criteria as before.

 

Week 15:

 

#1 Seed plays winner of matchup from week 14 to determine conference champion

 

Week 16:

 

Conference champions face off for League title.

 

TBH Not much would need changed.

 

 

Aye, exactly that - vote also probably needed on whether that means more fixed games between conference teams & affects tie-breaks. Obvs I'm a yes on those.

 

Kickers - I can see the merits of a decimal system as we do that for all other positions. Who's got Zeuerlein btw?

[Sterling Archer]

I HATE the current point system for kickers, so would definitely be up for a change to a fairer system. The fact you can get an extra 2 points for a field goal just 1 yard longer than a 49 yard effort is daft. Prefer the decimal system suggested

 

The decimal is what we use in my other leagues and it makes sense.

 

MFL handles it no problem so it's not like we'd need to work it out.

[Sterling Archer]

Aye, exactly that - vote also probably needed on whether that means more fixed games between conference teams & affects tie-breaks. Obvs I'm a yes on those.

 

Kickers - I can see the merits of a decimal system as we do that for all other positions. Who's got Zeuerlein btw?

 

 

I've not started him in weeks though so it's honestly not what's driving this!

[Sterling Archer]

Also, do we want to include Special Teams as currently we only use Def.

 

Lots of votes to be had this offseason.

 

Geoff - Sorry you're right no votes will be added till once the consolation bowl has concluded.

[Rick Grimes]

Agree there are pros to it too. How do we determine the conferences though? Best and worst combined division records over 3 seasons in one, with 2nd and 3rd in the other?

 

That could work. I'd jjst take them in the order they're currently in for simplicity. 1&2 v 3&4.

 

 

Do we redo the conferences/divisions from the start or do people already feel an element of rivalry within them?

 

FWIW MFL now has a "Career Records" report that pulls the win % and Points for of the teams across league history.

 

We could just assign new conferences based upon that.

 

1 goes to a

2 to b

3 to a

 

etc.

 

I'd definitely prefer to keep the divisions as they are because of the history within them.

[Rick Grimes]

 

I've not started him in weeks though so it's honestly not what's driving this!

 

Haha! Wasn't sure if you had him. Regardless, its a good idea.

 

Also, do we want to include Special Teams as currently we only use Def.

 

Lots of votes to be had this offseason.

 

Geoff - Sorry you're right no votes will be added till once the consolation bowl has concluded.

 

Special teams to be the defence you're playing or another roster spot? I'm probably being thick here - the latter sounds mental. If the former, I'd count TDs.

[Sterling Archer]

I just meant to make it Def and STs going forward.

 

Think a couple of times a season we get a query asking why a punt return td wasn't counted.

[Peebo]

 

 

What happened?

 

Oh and congrats Boo (and Scott). My division record this year has been abysmal.

 

Ill be back next year with a new look roster.

 

Griffin essentially fumbled it, Morgan caught it and ran in the touchdown.

 

Neither a pass or a handoff, but I thought it weird he didn't at get the points for the TD, if not any rushing or receiving yards.

[Sterling Archer]

Griffin essentially fumbled it, Morgan caught it and ran in the touchdown.

 

Neither a pass or a handoff, but I thought it weird he didn't at get the points for the TD, if not any rushing or receiving yards.

 

Hm, think that's happened a couple of times this year (remember it happening to garcon as well at one point).

 

I'm not really sure why it isn't awarded to someone?

[Rick Grimes]

Looks like a loophole - we could potentially close that by awarding points for fumbles returned to individual players. Not sure if that would require IDPs as well tho...

[Peebo]

I'm adding a vote to the league site regarding Kicker scoring. I realised earlier this year that it's not the way I had meant to set it up (yes it's taken me 3 years to notice) and I'm proposing changing it.

 

I'll need every league member to vote on this issue with a simple yes or no.

 

Currently we give 3 points for a field goal under 50 yards and 5 points for a field goal 50+ yards.

 

I'm proposing we move to a decimal system.

 

3 pts for any field goal up to 30 yards and then .1 points for every additional yard e.g. 37yarder = 3.7 points, 45 yarder = 4.5 points.

 

Thoughts?

 

Makes perfect sense. Will be voting yes.

[Peebo]

Looks like a loophole - we could potentially close that by awarding points for fumbles returned to individual players. Not sure if that would require IDPs as well tho...

 

Sounds sensible. If a TD is scored, someone (or the D/ST) should get the points.

[Peebo]

Looks like a loophole - we could potentially close that by awarding points for fumbles returned to individual players. Not sure if that would require IDPs as well tho...

 

Sounds sensible. If a TD is scored, someone (or the D/ST) should get the points.

 

My parrot agrees.

Edited December 4, 2012 by Peebo

[Peebo]

On subject on voting topics, is it possible to return to the original website layout next season? I find the current layout a real pain to view on my phone.

[Rick Grimes]

Sounds sensible. If a TD is scored, someone (or the D/ST) should get the points.

 

My parrot agrees.

 

Would definitely have to be the player. No way the D/ST should get it if an offensive player recovers a fumble and scores a TD. That's just as bad as the points not being awarded at all.

[Peebo]

 

 

Would definitely have to be the player. No way the D/ST should get it if an offensive player recovers a fumble and scores a TD. That's just as bad as the points not being awarded at all.

 

Maybe I wasn't being too clear. I didn't mean a D/ST should get points on a play they aren't taking part in. That would be ridiculous.

[Sterling Archer]

MFL is scoring is amazingly detailed if you need it to be.

 

There's an option to add "offensive fumble recovery TDs" which is what that was scored as, yes we can vote on that too.

[Lt.Speirs]

Let's just hope they go into the ******* toilet next season

 

 

Boo fecking hoo.

Surprised myself winning the division, but not by doing well. Regarding the points for the kicker I prefer the decimal system. BTW that schedule looks brutal next year.