luckyBatistuta Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 By the time I got to the bog in the Heavenly the last thing on my mind was trap doors! Did you know Gordon that managed the place Gabriel? Used to chat away to all the staff in there, as I was never out of the place. My memory is garbage though bud, especially names. I can't believe nobody got seriously injured in there though, as they used to leave the door on the floor for the cellar open all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Used to chat away to all the staff in there, as I was never out of the place. My memory is garbage though bud, especially names. I can't believe nobody got seriously injured in there though, as they used to leave the door on the floor for the cellar open all the time. Bet I was in there the same time as you at least one night. We lived in Morningside for 26 years and my dear mum lived in Falcon House until she died. We loved the Heavenly. Now it's a feckin Dominos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I stayed on Morningside road right beside it for about 4 years. Straight up to the Heavenly after leaving the Angle Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I stayed on Morningside road right beside it for about 4 years. Straight up to the Heavenly after leaving the Angle Club. The trap door was just as you went in the door right? For some reason, last night I pictured it in the toilets at the back. My wife put me straight this morning. If you'll pardon the expression. Me and Nastro Azurro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 The trap door was just as you went in the door right? For some reason, last night I pictured it in the toilets at the back. My wife put me straight this morning. If you'll pardon the expression. Me and Nastro Azurro Your getting confused with the secret door to the casino in the back One day you'll remember that your wife is always right Will be hitting the Nastro Azurro tonight myself, got to try and stay away from here though. Not wanting to have to come on here apologising for drunken posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Your getting confused with the secret door to the casino in the back One day you'll remember that your wife is always right Will be hitting the Nastro Azurro tonight myself, got to try and stay away from here though. Not wanting to have to come on here apologising for drunken posts image a telecharger gratuitement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Tried this question about two years ago with no joy so will try again tonight: Can anyone remember a place in either Hanover Street or Frederick Street (between George and Queen St) around 1980/81 which was (I think) black and white checked outside, food was burgers, hickory ribs, chicken wings etc. We used to get handed vouchers in the street which gave you 'buy one meal get the second free' on Thursday nights. The decor was also black and white. The name of this place has been bugging us for years! Penguin Cafe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) Penguin Cafe ? Nope, but thanks anyway. Think the Penguin was between Rose Street and George Street on Frederick or Castle. Wife thinks the one we are after was down from the Beau Brummell towards Queen Street. Edited February 20, 2017 by Morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Nope, but thanks anyway. Think the Penguin was between Rose Street and George Street on Frederick or Castle. Wife thinks the one we are after was down from the Beau Brummell towards Queen Street. cannot remember any other pub there ... what is it now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) cannot remember any other pub there ... what is it now?No idea. Think it was opposite the Patio Italian place but not too sure! Sorry to be so vague. Her latest suggestion is it might have been where the clothes shop called Bus Stop was. Just up from Milnes bar. This is driving us mad! Appreciate your help General Edited February 20, 2017 by Morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Izemore Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 No idea. Think it was opposite the Patio Italian place but not too sure! Sorry to be so vague. Her latest suggestion is it might have been where the clothes shop called Bus Stop was. Just up from Milnes bar. This is driving us mad! Appreciate your help General I was going to suggest Fingers Piano Bar but that wasn't near Milnes. This is bugging me now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I was going to suggest Fingers Piano Bar but that wasn't near Milnes. This is bugging me now. Glad you're bugged too! The Milnes thing might be a red herring of course. My wife has the memory of a gnat. I personally think it was near the Indian restaurant called Ballis. I don't even know if that place is still there. This is murder! While we're here though. There was a downstairs (a lot of stairs) bar next to the Beau Brummell (to its left) that we can't remember the name of either. It was buy one get on free on a Friday evening. Any ideas? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Glad you're bugged too! The Milnes thing might be a red herring of course. My wife has the memory of a gnat. I personally think it was near the Indian restaurant called Ballis. I don't even know if that place is still there. This is murder! While we're here though. There was a downstairs (a lot of stairs) bar next to the Beau Brummell (to its left) that we can't remember the name of either. It was buy one get on free on a Friday evening. Any ideas? Thanks! Quoting myself now. Re the diner type place: Wife now thinks it was on Frederick Street between Rose and George Street and that the doorway was on an angle. Everything, she says, was black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Quoting myself now. Re the diner type place: Wife now thinks it was on Frederick Street between Rose and George Street and that the doorway was on an angle. Everything, she says, was black and white. http://thescotsmanpublications.newsprints.co.uk/view/22701759/li1144543_customers%20sitting_jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 http://thescotsmanpublications.newsprints.co.uk/view/22701759/li1144543_customers%20sitting_jpg Thanks for your efforts General but that's not the place. When I saw you'd posted a link I thought 'at last, our anguish is over'. Sadly not. The place in question was on the other side of the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Morgan - you've given several possible locations for this place - give us a chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Morgan - you've given several possible locations for this place - give us a chance? I know! Sorry. We just can't quite remember exactly where it was. Wife says definitely Frederick Street. Going up towards George Street on the right hand side. Angled doorway. Buy one get one vouchers. Black and white deco. Sometime between 1980 and 1983/84. Best I can do Stuart. If I knew any more I would probably know the name of the damn place! Thanks again. ps Can you believe it was one year ago to the very day [20 February 2016] that you tried to help me with this before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) Bandwagon? Did you not ask this before? Edit: Not a dig just wondering if this has been bothering you all this time. Edited February 20, 2017 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Bandwagon? Did you not ask this before? Edit: Not a dig just wondering if this has been bothering you all this time. Aye, asked a year ago, almost to the date! It's been bugging us for years now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 is the Ping On still there? Was run by a guy called Kenny Mak Used to go there after the speedway back in the 80's I used to work there washing dishes in the 80s. Cracking wee job. Loadsa freebies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Right Morgan was it Juicy Lucy's? I'm told it became the Marie Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Mary Rose then Jekyll & Hyde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Right Morgan was it Juicy Lucy's? I'm told it became the Marie Rose. No Stuart - sorry it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Morgan - that's really disappointing! I thought I had cracked it with the aid of a third party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Aye, asked a year ago, almost to the date! It's been bugging us for years now! Doing my head in now, lost count of how many old photos and web pages I've looked at/read now. Even been looking at property sales websites to see if they listed anything to do with its previous history. Don't even know exactly which part of Frederick Street exactly that I should be looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdust Caesar Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/1_edin/1_edinburgh_history_-_recollections_cafes.htm This site has a list of some old cafes and restaurants, you may find it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Doing my head in now, lost count of how many old photos and web pages I've looked at/read now. Even been looking at property sales websites to see if they listed anything to do with its previous history. Don't even know exactly which part of Frederick Street exactly that I should be looking. Right. We've been talking about this again today. It was definitely Frederick or Hanover. Wife is adamant it was in the section between Rose Street and George Street. Although I think she is probably right, I have a wee niggle it was the section between George Street and Queen Street. No doubt at all it was on the right hand side going up from Princes Street. The food was ribs, chicken wings, maybe steaks, coleslaw etc. - sort of American diner style food. She thinks an American type name [brooklyns, that sort of thing]. I veer towards a shorter one word name like Aztecs? Decor was definitely black and white. Entrance was a wee step up then the door was at an angle. When we were in Edinburgh in January we had a look at all the places in the aforementioned streets. We definitely saw one place that had an angled doorway but can't remember which street it was on. Helpful I know! Really appreciate your help with this. You really need to start interrogating your passengers if they look of a certain age! You, the General and Stuart are our only tenuous hopes of remaining sane. As Chris Tarrant used to say 'no feckin pressure then"! Go to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/1_edin/1_edinburgh_history_-_recollections_cafes.htm This site has a list of some old cafes and restaurants, you may find it here. Thanks very much - I'll have a look at this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Morgan - that's really disappointing! I thought I had cracked it with the aid of a third party. Sorry Stuart. Really appreciate your help. As I said to Mr Batistuta, we think the name may be sort of American but can't be sure. Whoever comes up with the name is definitely good for a few pints! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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luckyBatistuta Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Right. We've been talking about this again today. It was definitely Frederick or Hanover. Wife is adamant it was in the section between Rose Street and George Street. Although I think she is probably right, I have a wee niggle it was the section between George Street and Queen Street. No doubt at all it was on the right hand side going up from Princes Street. The food was ribs, chicken wings, maybe steaks, coleslaw etc. - sort of American diner style food. She thinks an American type name [brooklyns, that sort of thing]. I veer towards a shorter one word name like Aztecs? Decor was definitely black and white. Entrance was a wee step up then the door was at an angle. When we were in Edinburgh in January we had a look at all the places in the aforementioned streets. We definitely saw one place that had an angled doorway but can't remember which street it was on. Helpful I know! Really appreciate your help with this. You really need to start interrogating your passengers if they look of a certain age! You, the General and Stuart are our only tenuous hopes of remaining sane. As Chris Tarrant used to say 'no feckin pressure then"! Go to it. It's not where Belted Burgers, formerly the WOK & Wine was, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Lincs Jambo Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Fond memories of Tiff's. Saw in my 16th there (still amazed we got in) back in 79. Also saw Dexy's play a cracking set there in 80 when Geno was riding high in the charts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Riva Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) I saw The Specials, Madness and The Selector all in the one gig in Tiffanys. The Two Tone Tour http://www.uncut.co.uk/blog/the-specials-madness-and-the-selecter-the-1979-2-tone-tour-remembered-9232 Edited February 22, 2017 by Hector Riva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 is the Ping On still there? Was run by a guy called Kenny Mak Used to go there after the speedway back in the 80's Kenny Mak's daughter Melody Mak sadly died in a car crash back in about 1990 with others in the car from Broughton High School. She'd just passed her test too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Kenny Mak's daughter Melody Mak sadly died in a car crash back in about 1990 with others in the car from Broughton High School. She'd just passed her test too. I remember that one. It was on Queensferry Road - powerful BMW or Mercedes ... at the junction with Craigleith something ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Kenny Mak's daughter Melody Mak sadly died in a car crash back in about 1990 with others in the car from Broughton High School. She'd just passed her test too. I remember that one. It was on Queensferry Road - powerful BMW or Mercedes ... at the junction with Craigleith something ...Not sure if it's the same incident, but there was a car which was rushing to watch a game in the World Cup, which crashed and was engulfed in flames at that junction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Right. We've been talking about this again today. It was definitely Frederick or Hanover. Wife is adamant it was in the section between Rose Street and George Street. Although I think she is probably right, I have a wee niggle it was the section between George Street and Queen Street. No doubt at all it was on the right hand side going up from Princes Street. The food was ribs, chicken wings, maybe steaks, coleslaw etc. - sort of American diner style food. She thinks an American type name [brooklyns, that sort of thing]. I veer towards a shorter one word name like Aztecs? Decor was definitely black and white. Entrance was a wee step up then the door was at an angle. When we were in Edinburgh in January we had a look at all the places in the aforementioned streets. We definitely saw one place that had an angled doorway but can't remember which street it was on. Helpful I know! Really appreciate your help with this. You really need to start interrogating your passengers if they look of a certain age! You, the General and Stuart are our only tenuous hopes of remaining sane. As Chris Tarrant used to say 'no feckin pressure then"! Go to it. New York Steam Packet ? Although I'm sure the only entrance is off Rose Street rather than Frederick Street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Right Morgan this has been bugging me so much that saddo that I am I've just been down to the Edinburgh Room at Central Library on George IV Bridge. I had hoped to view some Post Office Street Directories for the early 1980s but sadly they only have copies up to 1975. The very helpful assistant did say they had BT yellow pages for the period. I looked at Cafes/Diners (none) and Restaurants in Frederick & Hanover Streets in the YPs for 1979,1980, 1982 and 1983. The only restaurant that I found that perhaps fits the bill was the Allegro at Hanover St at an address it shared with the Three Tuns. The YP entry is shown in the attached photo This was in all but one of the YPs looked at i.e. 1983 so it may have had a short lifespan which is not uncommon in that line of business. Naturally if it shared the address with the Three Tuns it may very well have had an angled seperate entrance but I have no evidence that it did. The other problem is that not all restaurants etc were listed in the YPs! So does the Allegro ring any bells? I hope so. Edited February 22, 2017 by Stuart Lyon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Right Morgan this has been bugging me so much that saddo that I am I've just been down to the Edinburgh Room at Central Library on George IV Bridge. I had hoped to view some Post Office Street Directories for the early 1980s but sadly they only have copies up to 1975. The very helpful assistant did say they had BT yellow pages for the period. I looked at Cafes/Diners (none) and Restaurants in Frederick & Hanover Streets in the YPs for 1979,1980, 1982 and 1983. The only restaurant that I found that perhaps fits the bill was the Allegro at Hanover St at an address it shared with the Three Tuns. The YP entry is shown in the attached photo IMG_4977.jpg This was in all but one of the YPs looked at i.e. 1983 so it may have had a short lifespan which is not uncommon in that line of business. Naturally if it shared the address with the Three Tuns it may very well have had an angled seperate entrance but I have no evidence that it did. The other problem is that not all restaurants etc were listed in the YPs! So does the Allegro ring any bells? I hope so. Kept coming across your name in the old Edinburgh topics on this I'm stumped on this, but it's still bugging the hell out of me. btw, your commitment to it, is second to none bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 New York Steam Packet ? Although I'm sure the only entrance is off Rose Street rather than Frederick Street Nope. Really sorry! Thanks anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Right Morgan this has been bugging me so much that saddo that I am I've just been down to the Edinburgh Room at Central Library on George IV Bridge. I had hoped to view some Post Office Street Directories for the early 1980s but sadly they only have copies up to 1975. The very helpful assistant did say they had BT yellow pages for the period. I looked at Cafes/Diners (none) and Restaurants in Frederick & Hanover Streets in the YPs for 1979,1980, 1982 and 1983. The only restaurant that I found that perhaps fits the bill was the Allegro at Hanover St at an address it shared with the Three Tuns. The YP entry is shown in the attached photo IMG_4977.jpg This was in all but one of the YPs looked at i.e. 1983 so it may have had a short lifespan which is not uncommon in that line of business. Naturally if it shared the address with the Three Tuns it may very well have had an angled seperate entrance but I have no evidence that it did. The other problem is that not all restaurants etc were listed in the YPs! So does the Allegro ring any bells? I hope so. I'm so embarrassed that you've gone to all this trouble Stuart that I was tempted to say 'yes, that's it'!. But it isn't. Sorry again. If it wasn't for the fact that both my wife and I remember it and were there together many times I would, by now, be thinking the whole thing was a figment of my imagination. This feckin place existed for sure. Thanks again Stuart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 New York Steam Packet ? Although I'm sure the only entrance is off Rose Street rather than Frederick Street Behind the TSB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Morgan - no worries! I'll keep looking in the hope we can come-up with the answer. Edited February 22, 2017 by Stuart Lyon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Morgan - no worries! I'll keep looking in the hope we can come-up with the answer. Thanks so much Stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Morgan - no worries! I'll keep looking in the hope we can come-up with the answer. Bump !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Bump !! Good man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Drifter Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 The Hooch, the Kangaroo, El Cambalache and Big Beat were my faves. This is mid- to late-1980s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Morgan - one of my field agents has come-up with a name - New York, New York which he says was in the stretch between Milne's Bar and what is now Lakeland at the corner of Hanover & George St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Morgan - one of my field agents has come-up with a name - New York, New York which he says was in the stretch between Milne's Bar and what is now Lakeland at the corner of Hanover & George St. Stuart, we are 90% sold on this! It all fits in - my wife thought it was an American name (Brooklyn she said), the area is spot on and, if it was around 1980-1983 then that's it! Thank you so much Stuart! Thank you so much Stuart! So good I said it twice!! Really appreciate that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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