GinRummy Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 21 minutes ago, PortyBeach said: I don’t think HMRC sees it’s in its own interests to allow a business to fold with the resultant loss in tax revenues. Decisions on the merits of a CVA will be taken on a case-by-case basis. It’s not a slam-dunk. HMRC forces business to fold if they can’t pay their tax debts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 It’s all fairly pathetic. For the sake of a picture, they could have put the badge anywhere in the changing room, by putting it over the crest they know it’s going to antagonise a proportion of supporters. It doesn’t bother me personally to be honest, it could have been any club badge and I’d feel the same - it was a cup final and Tynecastle was deemed neutral for the day. Hearts putting out a statement was the right thing to do due to how many people are ‘highly’ offended, but depressing that we had to. A lot of problems in the world and society right now, this really isn’t one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 8 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said: I can understand people thinking the whole thing is overblown, which I do agree, but people have to accept that as you say that without Hearts saying otherwise people will think we allowed this. To me that is a statement that has a purpose. When its then said about the Hibs game where was the statement? My question is what would have been its purpose? I would argue it would be to make the fans happy that we are condemning Hibs, but ultimately that is not going to fix the problem. To fix the fan issue takes careful thinking as cutting Hibs allocation, means a cut of our allocation at Easter Road, some on here may be happy with that, but others wont be. So you have to weigh up all options, speak to all those to negotiate what we need to get the best outcome so such actions never happen again and Hearts dont sacrifice too much for it. Also find it funny that there is people on this forum who think the board dont care that the club captain was almost hit by objects because the club didn't send out an angry statement. I’m in agreement that there should have been a statement after that game, I was very surprised there was not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 11 hours ago, Sooks said: Would rather they had issued a mocking statement about how small and petty it was of the Huns to do it . Something really patronising Or….. as it was a women’s game nobody saw it anyway? Or typical, womens team in for 5 minutes and already redecorating ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 If there’s damage to our crest, then yeah, there’s reason to be hacked off about it. But tbh, it only shows The Rangers up to be petty and baw headed. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Elliott Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 9 hours ago, Mac80 said: Totally disagree. if Hearts did not release a statement then it looks like we allowed this behaviour in the first instance. As a previous poster mentioned Hearts are damned if they do and damned if they don’t here. I personally see nothing wrong with the statement nor do I see anything wrong with my football club taking offence to another football club putting their badge on top of ours. Strange any other hearts fan would be upset about this statement imo. It’s not like they’ve broken into the stadium and done this as some sort of prank. We’ve offered up our stadium as a neutral venue. It’s unsurprising a team don’t want to be sitting doing the prematch team talk whilst staring at another team’s badge. We could have dealt with the whole thing better imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 8 minutes ago, Bungalow Bill said: It’s all fairly pathetic. For the sake of a picture, they could have put the badge anywhere in the changing room, by putting it over the crest they know it’s going to antagonise a proportion of supporters. It doesn’t bother me personally to be honest, it could have been any club badge and I’d feel the same - it was a cup final and Tynecastle was deemed neutral for the day. Hearts putting out a statement was the right thing to do due to how many people are ‘highly’ offended, but depressing that we had to. A lot of problems in the world and society right now, this really isn’t one of them. This is how I feel, very cheeky of Rangers/SWPL to put it there without clearing it with Hearts but it’s no that big a deal really is it when we’re a neutral venue? The club had to put the statement out so they didn’t get the blame off the folk that are raging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 10 hours ago, hmfc1984 said: Bloody hell man, go take a ten minute walk outside and get away from the keyboard. This is really not a big deal. Got a few hours left of the weekend, go and enjoy them. Had a great weekend, thanks. I'm hardly suicidal over this matter but I see it as yet another example of the arse cheeks thinking they can do whatever they want and the rest, including the authorities, just have to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 22 minutes ago, GinRummy said: HMRC forces business to fold if they can’t pay their tax debts. I’m sure HMRC does so when there’s little prospect of the business remaining viable. But they don’t oppose a CVA as a matter of course - which was the earlier allegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 8 hours ago, PaddysBar said: I couldn’t care less about any other team than Hearts. I genuinely have zero feelings either way, apart from hating Hibs when we play them. However, rangers fans didn’t let their club die. HMRC don’t accept any CVAs as a matter of principle and as they were rangers biggest creditors, there was never any hope of the fans saving rangers. It was not possible. Fans of other clubs singing ‘you let your club die’ sound a bit simple to me. Next thing you’ll be telling me Aberdeen fans don’t actually have intercourse with livestock! God forbid fans exaggerate the truth a bit in order to have a dig at a rival fanbase. One thing that’s factually true is they cheated the taxpayer for years to dominate Scottish football, damaging it beyond repair in the process. Then they got caught, wound up by HMRC & liquidated as a result while their manky fans watched on in horror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscjambo Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Not wanting to jump into the old firm world of paranoia and conspiracy. But on face value this is simply disrespectful. Yes you may personalise the dressing room but sticking the Sevco logo over ours is simply rude and disrespectful. If this was the other way about we'd have politicians wading in! Listen I'm not asking for that, let's have some perspective. But the person who's done this simply needs to say thus was a misjudgement and we move on. Imagine the Rangers crest was stuck over a Celtic one had this been at Parkhead say. This is me playing devil's advocate to a degree here but the person responsible for this has dropped the ball and if nothing else its rude and disrespectful. But I wouldn't expect anything less from a football association geared and ran for 2 clubs. Do they run the clubs or do the clubs run them....mmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddysBar Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 7 minutes ago, boag1874 said: Next thing you’ll be telling me Aberdeen fans don’t actually have intercourse with livestock! God forbid fans exaggerate the truth a bit in order to have a dig at a rival fanbase. One thing that’s factually true is they cheated the taxpayer for years to dominate Scottish football, damaging it beyond repair in the process. Then they got caught, wound up by HMRC & liquidated as a result while their manky fans watched on in horror Fair points😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Surprise surprise Rangers declined to comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Bungalow Bill said: Who cares. We should be happy to take the SWPL money. We surely want Tynecastle to be a venue the SPFL/SFA/SWPL want to use. How much did we get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Just now, CostaJambo said: How much did we get? No idea. Google it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 The title could be doing with changing to calm the pant wetters down a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 12 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: Surprise surprise Rangers declined to comment They will be claiming next that Rangers Woman's Team has nothing to do with, and they have no connection to The Rangers FC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS' Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Grown men getting they're saggy tits in a twist over some stickers.... wouldn't be football without it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 8 hours ago, Ministryofdad said: Trivial to you. Not to the majority that still feel rightly outraged by the failures of those responsible. Rangers defrauding British tax payers to the sum of 56 million and yet people like you thinks its trivial. Is it trivial that RBS was sold in 2008 to the UK government for all those billions of pounds only to be sold to Lloyds banking group for a loss of twelve billion pounds to the UK tax payer. Then not one banker was jailed fot the collapse!! Still think it's trivial. What we can do is keep talking about it. Keep it in the public interest that rangers defrauded you as a tax payer millions of pounds yet everyone sweeps it under the carpet. The post office scandal is decades old. People went to prison for a massive error. Why hasnt anyone associated with rangers went infront of a magistrate to answer questions?? This is the real Injustice. I meant the badge covering is relatively trivial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Sherbet said: Try and beat them Good shout, a exhibition match, I'd reckon we'd take 10 of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 8 hours ago, Doc Rob said: Shaking my head at all of the people saying they aren’t bothered by this. I wouldn’t say I was furious, but it is pathetic and disrespectful behaviour when you are the guests at someone else’s stadium. The club are quite right to make a complaint. I also wonder whether all the people who ‘aren’t bothered’ would feel the same if it were a Celtic sticker on top of our crest. Somehow I suspect that would be different. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 At least the pitch is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 35 minutes ago, Bungalow Bill said: No idea. Google it. Exactly, we have no idea hence why would we be happy with an unknown sum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 26 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said: They will be claiming next that Rangers Woman's Team has nothing to do with, and they have no connection to The Rangers FC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Thread title should be changed at least since clear hearts didn’t authorise anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, PaddysBar said: A quick google (remember the bit where I said I genuinely couldn’t care less?) reveals HMRC were originally after £94m and settled for £56m. That’s a lot of sponsored orange walks and tea towel sales. Aye, very good; they let their club die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Like most, I didn't even know about this til the club statement. I never even knew there was a game on. Finding it very difficult to care about this, tbh. Surprised we released a statement highlighting it and made it out to be an 'outrage' that most fans don't seem to care about. Really highlights how precious some fans can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 9 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Aye, very good; they let their club die walking away - it's the rangers way.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 They claim they have a world wide support of millions . Telling me they could not have started a foundation to try and raise the cash ? Aye okay . They let their club die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Where, as in this case, a Scottish tournament's final is being played at a neutral should things such as do's and don'ts within the stadium, plus host club costs etc, not be relayed to all participating teams. Not this particular issue but the game was on TV and it did seem like a decent crowd in the main stand. The only thougt I had at the time was in relation to ehether or not HMFC got any profit from food/drink sales within the ground or if everything went to the SFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: walking away - it's the rangers way.... They're the people, who wouldn't put their hands in their pockets The people that ripped off the people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 minute ago, portobellojambo1 said: Where, as in this case, a Scottish tournament's final is being played at a neutral should things such as do's and don'ts within the stadium, plus host club costs etc, not be relayed to all participating teams. Not this particular issue but the game was on TV and it did seem like a decent crowd in the main stand. The only thougt I had at the time was in relation to ehether or not HMFC got any profit from food/drink sales within the ground or if everything went to the SFA. Can't see how the club made money from this; £1 a concession, £8 for adults Be fortunate to cover costs and presumably didn't lose out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Why should anyone care enough to tell people on here that they don't care about this? If a Hearts fan is miffed about it, that's surely fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 37 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: Exactly, we have no idea hence why would we be happy with an unknown sum? You think it’s possible it’s a freebie? Ffs we would have been paid for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, Bungalow Bill said: It’s all fairly pathetic. For the sake of a picture, they could have put the badge anywhere in the changing room, by putting it over the crest they know it’s going to antagonise a proportion of supporters. It doesn’t bother me personally to be honest, it could have been any club badge and I’d feel the same - it was a cup final and Tynecastle was deemed neutral for the day. Hearts putting out a statement was the right thing to do due to how many people are ‘highly’ offended, but depressing that we had to. A lot of problems in the world and society right now, this really isn’t one of them. It’s unbelievably small time from the huns. Ideally, the club would’ve stayed silent but probably felt they had to appease the folk raging about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swilso Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 There is a wider point to this. How can Rangers now take action against the idiots in their support who vandalise and deface other stadiums with their graffiti and stickers when their own football team is doing it. Irresponsible and disrespectful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Biggest storm in a tea cup ever in JKB history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Tell you what I genuinely think this wouldn't have wound folk up as much if it wasn't smaller than our badge making it so so obvious that it's been plastered over the top of it. If it was the correct size so as to completely hide our badge from view it would look less disrespectful ironically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 How ****ing out of touch can some people at our club be. **** me, what a ****ung beamer this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 When the thread title gets changed can whoever be replaced with whomever as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDK2020 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 10 hours ago, Morgan said: Priceless post from you. Oh dear 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 8 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: How ****ing out of touch can some people at our club be. **** me, what a ****ung beamer this is. What do you mean? Did you read the statement from Hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 15 hours ago, soonbe110 said: Assume we were happy with the fee received Was shocked to see this picture, but even more shocked to learn that the women’s game has earned us some money. Is this a first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 11 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: How ****ing out of touch can some people at our club be. **** me, what a ****ung beamer this is. The club is raging. You not see the statement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDK2020 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, Pete Elliott said: It’s not like they’ve broken into the stadium and done this as some sort of prank. We’ve offered up our stadium as a neutral venue. It’s unsurprising a team don’t want to be sitting doing the prematch team talk whilst staring at another team’s badge. We could have dealt with the whole thing better imo. 100% correct. The embarrassment of this is all self-inflicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vanderlay Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 13 minutes ago, Sooks said: When the thread title gets changed can whoever be replaced with whomever as well That would be incorrect bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, GinRummy said: HMRC forces business to fold if they can’t pay their tax debts. Either way had their support got the money they could have paid HMRC and it would all have gone away. They let their club die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Not getting my nickers in a twist but this is out of order. Defacing the badge of a club that is hosting the event is beyond crass. The hun think they are the only club going and they would never have done this at Celtic park. Not biging up Celtic but I doubt they would have done this had they been in the final. The club has responded as they should, due to the posts on social media, The fact that they did not put out a statement when Shanks was pelted makes no difference. Each case is dealt with differently and the Shanks case was well reported in the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 ‘Evo-Stik-Gate’ … who’s been caught with sticky fingers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 3 hours ago, PortyBeach said: That’s true, and I don’t think “Doc Rob” is suggesting otherwise. His point surely is that there is another group of Jambos who take the opposite view? I do my best to block those ones out and deny they even exist 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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