GBJambo Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Putting pressure on the refs/ var for next time we play them . Scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Bad man give red card....embed.svg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Talk about sore losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) If the SFA don't back their Officials it will cause uproar in the refereeing community. Edited March 4 by upgotheheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macros Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: If the SFA don't bach their Officials it will cause uproar in the refereeing community. They won't put their heads on the Chopin block Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Macros said: They won't put their heads on the Chopin block They would be in the Stockhausens🤣👍 Best I can do at short notice😄 Edited March 4 by upgotheheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canscot Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 15 minutes ago, Buster HMFC said: What's their defence. "His studs where only 6ft in the air" No. He was going for the ball and Cochrane deliberately ran into his foot!😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 A three-cheeked Old Firm arse consisting of Stubbs, Lennon and Souness is whinging big time on the BBC. It's almost as if both cheeks got defeated at the weekend... I don't think they do this in Europe when decisions or results go against them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68471209 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hughesie27 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Absolutely no chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Any higher he'd be doing the splits, impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon simpson Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 hours ago, Russ1977 said: Dermot gallagher on ref watch on sky reckoned their pen wasn’t a pen, the red card was a red and he even said he thought our pen was harsh but they’d been giving them all season for the same thing so he understood why it was awarded. Basically we where the ones hard done by not Celtic this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 24 minutes ago, GBJambo said: Putting pressure on the refs/ var for next time we play them . Scum It’s not about us. It’s putting pressure on refs and var when they play anyone. They have a fight on for the title so they are playing all the dirty games at their disposal. The SFPL will be doing a lot of bending over in the coming weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bazzas right boot said: He's a tit. Brenda is not a "good girl"... The only decision that was wrong yesterday was giving Celtic a penalty... Edited March 4 by Spellczech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 It was a red card all day long for dangerous play, they manks should just shut the **** up and read the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, jackal said: Don Robertson should the one be questioned not VAR. He couldn't wait to give them their penalty even though there was a clear barge into the back of Cochrane. Only giving a yellow for a full boot of studs to the face at head height. Missing a double handball. Don Robertson is up there with some of the worst refs we have. Thankfully VAR highlighted how bad he is. We could have also seen the chance Celtic not being called offside for their goal before we had VAR. Every goal against them and the other cheek will be checked meticulously for any reason for it to be chopped off while there will be no such inspection when they score. How many handball VAR pens have the both been given compared to ones against them. Robertson gave them plenty 50/50s and soft fouls. That's a great way to look at it. Those are the types of decision we weren't getting against the old firm pre VAR. If this was down in England, Rodgers would be getting a lengthy ban for his comments. Not up here though. His comments will stir up the stupid element of their support, which has led to referees getting their houses attacked in the past, which then leads to them being reluctant to give decisions against them. I'm sure Rodgers and Celtic know exactly what they're doing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 They've mellowed over the years. I'm surprised they didn't demand the game was replayed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 They can appeal all they want. Waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon simpson Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, Homme said: They can appeal all they want. Waste of time. this is Scotland remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Macros said: They won't put their heads on the Chopin block They are like a gang of wolves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 There's no way they will overturn the red card as it would be the green light to high boots to the face from here on in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rob Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 45 minutes ago, Rocky jamboa said: That's a great way to look at it. Those are the types of decision we weren't getting against the old firm pre VAR. If this was down in England, Rodgers would be getting a lengthy ban for his comments. Not up here though. His comments will stir up the stupid element of their support, which has led to referees getting their houses attacked in the past, which then leads to them being reluctant to give decisions against them. I'm sure Rodgers and Celtic know exactly what they're doing here. This is one advantage of VAR. We all know that OF players rarely get straight red cards. Refs will book them for challenges they would send other players off for - as happened yesterday. If Cochrane had been the kicker than the one who was kicked, nailed on straight red, but the Celtic player was booked. This has always happened, and the club couldn’t even complain, because the ref had seen the incident and decided it was a booking. Tough luck. But now at least some of these decisions are getting a VAR review and getting upgraded. What this tells us is that a lot of the pro-OF bias is probably unconscious. Refs (who are almost all from the West) have been brought up on a diet of OF superiority. But when they are forced to examine things a bit more closely and without their rose-tinted pro-OF specs, they sometimes make different decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col4444 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Their penalty was a foul on Cochrane ffs, a boot in the chops is a red card whether it's meant or not, a handball in the box is a pen deliberate or not. It's the fookin' rules, the self entitlement this reeks of is beyond belief. The hatred I have for that club is off the scale. Edited March 4 by Col4444 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Lincs Jambo Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 hours ago, jackal said: Don Robertson should the one be questioned not VAR. He couldn't wait to give them their penalty even though there was a clear barge into the back of Cochrane. Only giving a yellow for a full boot of studs to the face at head height. Missing a double handball. Don Robertson is up there with some of the worst refs we have. Thankfully VAR highlighted how bad he is. We could have also seen the chance Celtic not being called offside for their goal before we had VAR. Every goal against them and the other cheek will be checked meticulously for any reason for it to be chopped off while there will be no such inspection when they score. How many handball VAR pens have the both been given compared to ones against them. Robertson gave them plenty 50/50s and soft fouls. Can’t remember if it was the 2nd or 3rd Hun goal v us in the 5-0 but I thought it was offside at the time and that it would go to VAR but clearly it didn’t. If it was the 2nd we had been getting very much back into the game and that goal killed us. Tf this was on Sky. Don’t think we’d have had the same outcome otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vlad Magic Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) I would red card Brenda for having a face like a melted welly. Edited March 4 by Vlad Magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Hearts Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, spirt of 98 said: Precedent set and consistency achieved with this incident. Which Brenda believes and confirms is the correct outcome. Source : Brendan Rodgers in blunt Celtic red card response as Joe Hart 'stud to the eye' sees boss deliver clear VAR verdict - Daily Record Blunt Brendan Rodgers was in no doubt over whether Toyosi Olusanya's sending off for St Mirren should have been a red card. Rodgers felt a 'stud to the eye' clearly merited the sending-off. He said after the game: "The guy's not meaning to do it, but of course if you're taking a stud in the eye, it's dangerous play. It was clearly a red card. "I don't think there was much doubt over why they were waiting (on the VAR decision). Clearly, we could see it on the screen here. We were kept fully aware, so unfortunate for St Mirren, but the right decision was the outcome." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 But but but “ the reality ! “ what about the reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 5 minutes ago, Brave Hearts said: Precedent set and consistency achieved with this incident. Which Brenda believes and confirms is the correct outcome. Source : Brendan Rodgers in blunt Celtic red card response as Joe Hart 'stud to the eye' sees boss deliver clear VAR verdict - Daily Record Blunt Brendan Rodgers was in no doubt over whether Toyosi Olusanya's sending off for St Mirren should have been a red card. Rodgers felt a 'stud to the eye' clearly merited the sending-off. He said after the game: "The guy's not meaning to do it, but of course if you're taking a stud in the eye, it's dangerous play. It was clearly a red card. "I don't think there was much doubt over why they were waiting (on the VAR decision). Clearly, we could see it on the screen here. We were kept fully aware, so unfortunate for St Mirren, but the right decision was the outcome." Appeal will take that into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Seen clips from some of these weegie phone in shows and there’s strong suggestions that Cochrane ran into the guys foot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Seen clips from some of these weegie phone in shows and there’s strong suggestions that Cochrane ran into the guys foot! It would be beyond outrageous if Celtic's appeal is successful on the basis that Cochrane was running towards the ball with the intention of heading it. An analogy is the handball penalty rule - having your arm in "an unnatural position and in so doing making your body outline bigger when the ball strikes it" - Yang had his leg outstretched in an unnaturally high position, with total disregard to how close Cochrane's head was to the ball. Surely any neutral observer would deem that as very dangerous play with disregard for an opponent's safety ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: It would be beyond outrageous if Celtic's appeal is successful on the basis that Cochrane was running towards the ball with the intention of heading it. An analogy is the handball penalty rule - having your arm in "an unnatural position and in so doing making your body outline bigger when the ball strikes it" - Yang had his leg outstretched in an unnaturally high position, with total disregard to how close Cochrane's head was to the ball. Surely any neutral observer would deem that as very dangerous play with disregard for an opponent's safety ? It was the incident in the 2010 World Cup final where Howard Webb failed to send off Nigel De Jong after he kicked Xabi Alonso in the chest. After that FIFA said dangerous kicks were red cards. And any kick to the head is dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalryJambo Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 On 'this occasion' the dangerously high boot and studs to the face didn't happen to cause an injury. However, a lot of rules are there specifically to discourage players doing the thing that 'could' cause a serious injury to an opponent. Its the act, rather than the outcome. But the player did make contact to the head. Its pretty clear. If you swing a round house punch but completely miss, I'm certain you'd be sent of for violent conduct. As for the handball, it seems like nothing, but if the player hadn't touched the ball with his arm it could have fallen to the foot of a Hearts player and he could have take a shot. So celtic did gain some advantage there. Now, I don't like the fact that a player can be penalised for hand ball when they’ve no idea where the ball is and they've not moved their body in reaction to the direction the ball is moving. I think there needs to be intent to stop the path of the ball or when stopping a shot that's going to hit the target when the hands are away from the body ( but that's maybe the same as point 1). Under the current rules the ball did hit his arms, his arms were out from his sides, and Celtic did gain an advantage as the ball could have dropped to a Hearts player but for the hand ball. It's become a difficult rule to officiate now tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Celtic and Rangers seem to be calling all the shots when a penalty or sending off is given against them. Virtually saying these things will not happen again, or we will scream and make threats. Its time for our football authorities to grow a pair and stop this nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Cochrane to be offered a 2 game retrospective ban for endangering Yang’s boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Australis said: Celtic and Rangers seem to be calling all the shots when a penalty or sending off is given against them. Virtually saying these things will not happen again, or we will scream and make threats. Its time for our football authorities to grow a pair and stop this nonsense. They are our footballing authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: Cochrane to be offered a 2 game retrospective ban for endangering Yang’s boot. Plus a 3 match ban for play acting since Celtic will prove Yang didn't touch him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Corstorphine Jambo Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Where’s this “no intent” nonsense come from? He puts his studs in Cochrane’s face - of course he’s endangering an opponent. Intent or not. Hopefully the SFA take the opportunity to increase the ban……….and pigs might fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 21 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: It was the incident in the 2010 World Cup final where Howard Webb failed to send off Nigel De Jong after he kicked Xabi Alonso in the chest. After that FIFA said dangerous kicks were red cards. And any kick to the head is dangerous. The same Howard Webb who floats around TV studios correcting other referees mistakes. Guy reffed biggest game in football and he shit himself from making big decisions. He's a joke and deserves zero respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsjambo Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 As others on here have said, if it’s a Hearts player doing that, particularly in Glasgow he’s straight off without checking VAR. No doubt about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Classic deflection tactics for another poor performance and defeat, their fans will lap it up 🤪. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 21 minutes ago, Corstorphine Jambo said: Where’s this “no intent” nonsense come from? He puts his studs in Cochrane’s face - of course he’s endangering an opponent. Intent or not. Hopefully the SFA take the opportunity to increase the ban……….and pigs might fly. More ignorance. Intent was removed from the laws of the game about 6 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 12 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Classic deflection tactics for another poor performance and defeat, their fans will lap it up 🤪. It's win-win. Either the SFA cave or they get to feel aggrieved. Pathetic from a club with the resources to have the title sewn up by January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 4 hours ago, jackal said: Don Robertson should the one be questioned not VAR. He couldn't wait to give them their penalty even though there was a clear barge into the back of Cochrane. Only giving a yellow for a full boot of studs to the face at head height. Missing a double handball. Don Robertson is up there with some of the worst refs we have. Thankfully VAR highlighted how bad he is. We could have also seen the chance Celtic not being called offside for their goal before we had VAR. Every goal against them and the other cheek will be checked meticulously for any reason for it to be chopped off while there will be no such inspection when they score. How many handball VAR pens have the both been given compared to ones against them. Robertson gave them plenty 50/50s and soft fouls. He also took no action on the leg breaking tackle on young Tait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon simpson Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, spirt of 98 said: Good kick grasshopper 🦗 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 35 minutes ago, Corstorphine Jambo said: Where’s this “no intent” nonsense come from? He puts his studs in Cochrane’s face - of course he’s endangering an opponent. Intent or not. Hopefully the SFA take the opportunity to increase the ban……….and pigs might fly. Yeah, that phrase annoys me. Same with "there was no malice in it". They're just meaningless, cheap, sweep-it-under-the-carpet comments from managers to play down the latest act of thuggery from their team. Lennon & Rodgers both used in relation to Scott Brown assaults, like the one on Harry Cochrane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Lone Striker said: It would be beyond outrageous if Celtic's appeal is successful on the basis that Cochrane was running towards the ball with the intention of heading it. An analogy is the handball penalty rule - having your arm in "an unnatural position and in so doing making your body outline bigger when the ball strikes it" - Yang had his leg outstretched in an unnaturally high position, with total disregard to how close Cochrane's head was to the ball. Surely any neutral observer would deem that as very dangerous play with disregard for an opponent's safety ? Dermot Gallagher seemed to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 5 hours ago, jackal said: Don Robertson should the one be questioned not VAR. He couldn't wait to give them their penalty even though there was a clear barge into the back of Cochrane. Only giving a yellow for a full boot of studs to the face at head height. Missing a double handball. Don Robertson is up there with some of the worst refs we have. Thankfully VAR highlighted how bad he is. We could have also seen the chance Celtic not being called offside for their goal before we had VAR. Every goal against them and the other cheek will be checked meticulously for any reason for it to be chopped off while there will be no such inspection when they score. How many handball VAR pens have the both been given compared to ones against them. Robertson gave them plenty 50/50s and soft fouls. Robertson has got form with Hearts. Looked scunnered when VAR kept pointing out his bias. Remember his sending off of Shankland for a no contact "foul" v Hibs. The new Derek Prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 5 hours ago, Russ1977 said: Dermot gallagher on ref watch on sky reckoned their pen wasn’t a pen, the red card was a red and he even said he thought our pen was harsh but they’d been giving them all season for the same thing so he understood why it was awarded. Basically we where the ones hard done by not Celtic 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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