Dallas Green Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Has any reporter not brought up his complete hypocrisy regarding his comments of the St. Mirren red card? Listening to, I think, Brian McLaughlin after the match interview BR, Brian was playing into BR's narrative that big bad VAR was an issue. Pathetic. Shitebags the lot of them if they haven't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 hours ago, Jamb04life said: This is a problem in Scotland; whenever a decision goes against Rangers or Celtic, they make a massive deal out of it, as well as the media. They are not used to decisions going against them because of the bias towards both clubs over a number of years. Rangers and Celtic have now called out individual officials and wrote to the SFA to complain about the standard of refereeing in matches. What seems to be forgotten is that the officiating in this country is equally bad for each club. I didn’t see Hearts complaining to the SFA when Boyce and Forrest didn’t get their penalties earlier in the season when they were stonewallers. I also don’t remember the media giving a hoot either. This is an opportunity for the SFA to stand up to Celtic. The penalty they got to start with was a shocker and if they scored, it would’ve been a completely different game; I bet this incident has been flagged up in their complaint to the SFA… See THIS is actually the problem, they are so used to getting all the decisions, so used to getting dodgy penalties their way, so used to opponents getting soft reds, getting the 50/50 calls in their favour and patronising the "wee diddy clubs" by telling us that it all evens out in the end (even when it doesn't) and that they get more decisions because "we are attacking more" absolutely oblivious to the facts that rules are supposed to be applied without fear or favour to any club. They get their way so much, so often that they fly into absolute outrage when things start to 'even up' and one or two decisions go against them. They are like petulant children throwing a tantrum because they have always got their way but for once they were told no. Every foul committed by them immediately becomes whatabootery, it's simply doesn't register that they can be wrong....ever! It's got to be an endemic, systemic, whole system conspiracy against them Rangers fans are exactly the same by the way! Yes there will be one or two sensible, moderate fans who can acknowledge the truth before them...but it's impossible to hear them over the baying mob of morons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) Brendan Rogers should be called up for bringing the game into disrepute, He is embarrassing: Would love to hear his answer about why one is a red and the other is not. Edited March 5 by H2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texaco Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 37 minutes ago, ShedBoy said: There's the rule, in all its glory. The last sentence cannot be argued. There's nothing more dangerous than a kick/wack in the head. That is why the game stops when a head clash takes place. Look at Rugby for example how serious the issue is. It's automatically red. It's no excuse to say "I didn't mean it". You have to be aware of players around you and take personal responsibility for your actions. We all accept that a high studs potential leg breaking tackle is a sending off whether or not it's just miss timed . But that won't kill you but a kick to the head might. God forbid a few inches more and it could have been a boot under the chin. The reckless regard for player safety from Celtic by appealing the sending off is disgusting. They should have the book thrown at them. Anything less and the SFA/SPL will have a lot to answer for if next time somebody get seriously injured. This is so high profile that players need to be aware that a high boot near another player will most likely get you sent off. End of, no debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 8 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said: I think the rule is shite. The St mirren boy and the celtic guy where just Trying the reach the ball and the other player got their first, neither was hurt and although clearly high, a yellow and fk imo should be the outcome. However, under the rules it's a red card. The rules now in football are getting a bit ridiculous, no more so than the handball rule. The fact that the big tanned, greetin face leather skinned, V looking alien twat never called out his own pk as an actual foul on Cochrane and was 100% for the St Mirren guy being sent off is unbelievable. The outrage has only one agenda, to pressurise the referees in future games and appease their fans. Will he be called out for the hypocrisy and being a dick by the media? Don't be absurd. When I was playing youth rec league 40 years ago they made it very clear that a high kick near someone's face was a red card. Nothing's changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section s heart Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 26 minutes ago, Texaco said: There's nothing more dangerous than a kick/wack in the head. That is why the game stops when a head clash takes place. Look at Rugby for example how serious the issue is. It's automatically red. It's no excuse to say "I didn't mean it". You have to be aware of players around you and take personal responsibility for your actions. We all accept that a high studs potential leg breaking tackle is a sending off whether or not it's just miss timed . But that won't kill you but a kick to the head might. God forbid a few inches more and it could have been a boot under the chin. The reckless regard for player safety from Celtic by appealing the sending off is disgusting. They should have the book thrown at them. Anything less and the SFA/SPL will have a lot to answer for if next time somebody get seriously injured. This is so high profile that players need to be aware that a high boot near another player will most likely get you sent off. End of, no debate. Agree. Pretty sure Yang didn't mean it, but a leg raised 12 inches off the ground is a broken leg/ knee/ ankle risk and a red all day long, so you'd think a head high kick is going to be a bit hard to justify. Despite Celtic's clout, highly unlikely the SFA aren't going to back Beaton and Robertson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: Don't be absurd. When I was playing youth rec league 40 years ago they made it very clear that a high kick near someone's face was a red card. Nothing's changed. Nah, Often a booking back in the day. Always a foul, but to get sent off it was generally a Schumacher type assault. If you want up and kicked someone in the face you'd be sent off, but if the ball was there to be won it wasn't always a red card. The ball positioning and attempting to play it mattered back then, not now. Ofc, the rules have changed and most yellow cards back then are now red. It's always been a foul, but it was never always a red card. it is now though. Edited March 5 by Bazzas right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 04/03/2024 at 17:15, John Findlay said: They also raise serious VAR concerns. Which will be, why didn't we get the decisions. I saw that yesterday. Can't believe the audacity. Well I can. Horrible institution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Nah, Often a booking back in the day. Always a foul, but to get sent off it was generally a Schumacher type assault. If you want up and kicked someone in the face you'd be sent off, but if the ball was there to be won it wasn't always a red card. The ball positioning and attempting to play it mattered back then, not now. Ofc, the rules have changed and most yellow cards back then are now red. It's always been a foul, but it was never always a red card. it is now though. Jose Goncalves was sent off playing for Hearts, years ago, for similar to Sunday's incident. No uproar in the media about it, that I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 5 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said: Listened to Open Goal last night and they were the same. More of a Celtic actually played well with ten and Hearts looked uncomfortable etc. Even Halliday...said we looked better against 11. Guy was sent off after like 13 minutes. How could he come to that conclusion 😂 Celtic had a goal chopped off, but Idah was 3 yards offside. Other than that, Zander made routine saves and we looked so so comfy for the full game. Easily the most relaxed I've ever been watching us against them. t'was an OF love in as usual. No pretence of any objectivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: Jose Goncalves was sent off playing for Hearts, years ago, for similar to Sunday's incident. No uproar in the media about it, that I can remember. Yeah I'm not denying that some refs or associations took the "aw he didnae mean it" approach, particularly in the 90s and aughts, but IMO the way the rule was originally intended and the way it should be enforced is that intent to harm only should only come up in terms of extending suspensions and issuing fines or bans. Players have the responsibility to not recklessly endanger other players, which is why things like the "studs up" rule are now enforced. A high kick is not a normal part of the game that players are constantly making. If you're going to go for a high kick, you have the responsibility to make sure you're not near another player. If there's another player nearby, don't go for a high kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Have to say, though, I do feel for Celtic and Rangers in the VAR era. In the past, they've only had to stir up their fans and media toadies to intimidate one ref per match. Now they have to make sure they keep the ref and the VAR in line. Rodgers clearly had Robertson in his pocket, but forgot to send the proper payments and intimidating letters to Beaton. Must be tough for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 04/03/2024 at 17:15, John Findlay said: They also raise serious VAR concerns. Which will be, why didn't we get the decisions. See if Celtic had won that game do you think the report would have said Hearts lost? Course it wouldn’t it would have been Celtic won……boils my urine 🤬🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birregrande Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: Have to say, though, I do feel for Celtic and Rangers in the VAR era. In the past, they've only had to stir up their fans and media toadies to intimidate one ref per match. Now they have to make sure they keep the ref and the VAR in line. Rodgers clearly had Robertson in his pocket, but forgot to send the proper payments and intimidating letters to Beaton. Must be tough for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 47 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Nah, Often a booking back in the day. Always a foul, but to get sent off it was generally a Schumacher type assault. If you want up and kicked someone in the face you'd be sent off, but if the ball was there to be won it wasn't always a red card. The ball positioning and attempting to play it mattered back then, not now. Ofc, the rules have changed and most yellow cards back then are now red. It's always been a foul, but it was never always a red card. it is now though. Changed the kick to the head being a red card after this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 29 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: Have to say, though, I do feel for Celtic and Rangers in the VAR era. In the past, they've only had to stir up their fans and media toadies to intimidate one ref per match. Now they have to make sure they keep the ref and the VAR in line. Rodgers clearly had Robertson in his pocket, but forgot to send the proper payments and intimidating letters to Beaton. Must be tough for him. Yip, tbe best thing is the St Mirren game quote, just shows he Bull shitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Changed the kick to the head being a red card after this. Yeah, it's quite recent, certainly not 40 years ago. There was 2 in that game iirc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Rudi Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 29 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: Have to say, though, I do feel for Celtic and Rangers in the VAR era. In the past, they've only had to stir up their fans and media toadies to intimidate one ref per match. Now they have to make sure they keep the ref and the VAR in line. Rodgers clearly had Robertson in his pocket, but forgot to send the proper payments and intimidating letters to Beaton. Must be tough for him. Agreed, it was Robertson who was anti Hearts. Gave their penalty without a second thought,(was it even reviewed by VAR?) issued a yellow card in the sending off incident, before closing his eyes for the double handball, giving us nowt. Without VAR we would have got the Shankland offside goal and nothing else. Thankfully VAR got involved in the two incidents that really mattered. The sending off and our penalty. For once VAR correctly went in our favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Rudi Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Hope the appeal is thrown out and the ban/fine is increased. Rodgers is then brought to heel regarding his post match comments and found guilty of bringing the game into disrepute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Cowardly scum bags. Have they ever lost a game in the last 40 years when the opposition was just better? They really are annoying as ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 FIFA really need to introduce some discipline towards protecting referees. Stop players surrounding referees Clamp down on verbal abuse Captains only approaching the referee Better Communications between Referee and Var. Rugby really have this sorted and it’s refreshing to hear the Referee conversation with TMO during televised games. Recently watched the Six Nations documentary on Netflix and it was eye opening. England Captain tried to get shitty with the ref at half time and he was quickly told to get on his bike. Blue Cards are not the way forward for sure, but turn yellows into sin bin offences, would make some of these over paid prima Donna’s thinking they can play Billy big baws and get away with it. Your Goldsons, Scot Brown(Captain I know) Johnson, Shinnie etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) The SFA hearing / 'appeal' is today. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/disciplinary/disciplinary-updates/ Edited March 5 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) Rodgers said the high foot might look bad if you freeze framed it. Try watching it at normal speed, Brendan. What an absolute embarrassment that club is. Edited March 5 by Hearts_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: The SFA hearing / 'appeal' is today. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/disciplinary/disciplinary-updates/ So when’s the decision announced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgierools Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: The SFA hearing / 'appeal' is today. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/disciplinary/disciplinary-updates/ Should hear the outcome soon then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Texaco said: There's nothing more dangerous than a kick/wack in the head. That is why the game stops when a head clash takes place. Look at Rugby for example how serious the issue is. It's automatically red. It's no excuse to say "I didn't mean it". You have to be aware of players around you and take personal responsibility for your actions. We all accept that a high studs potential leg breaking tackle is a sending off whether or not it's just miss timed . But that won't kill you but a kick to the head might. God forbid a few inches more and it could have been a boot under the chin. The reckless regard for player safety from Celtic by appealing the sending off is disgusting. They should have the book thrown at them. Anything less and the SFA/SPL will have a lot to answer for if next time somebody get seriously injured. This is so high profile that players need to be aware that a high boot near another player will most likely get you sent off. End of, no debate. Exactly 👍🏽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 7 minutes ago, Hearts_fan said: Rodgers said the high foot might look bad if you freeze framed it. Try watching it at normal speed, Brendan. What an absolute embarrassment that club is. He also said Cochranes head was down, which it wasn’t. They froze the picture to show where the contact takes place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: He also said Cochranes head was down, which it wasn’t. They froze the picture to show where the contact takes place. Yeah it's one thing for Rodgers to say all that in a huff in the post-match interview. But as Lenny himself said, that's one thing, but before submitting this horseshit claim to the SFA he should have gone to bed, gotten up, had his morning tea and sat down and watched the footage in the cold light of morning and said, "f--- me, that's a red card" and meekly issued a short written apology and got on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idle Talk Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Between Brendan Rodgers, Neil Lennon, Chris Sutton, any other spunk bubble who has ever pulled on a Celtic strip, and my Facebook feed, I am getting increasingly irate about the amount of whingeing these *******s are doing. It's even more annoying seeing the likes of Neil McCann going in to bat for them. ALL of the talk is about the red card and the penalty we got. Their non penalty is just completely glossed over. Only Steven Naismith and perhaps Kris Boyd have referenced it. That I have heard anyway. I have never seen a team anywhere who are so unable to accept that they lost a football match fair and square. I hate them. So so much. Stuff like this just crystallises the loathing and utter contempt I feel for the way they conduct themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 The tears and snotters from celtic has been so ****ing good, almost as good as the pumping we gave them. They can’t handle it if any decision doesn’t go their way. The way they’ve been crying their eyes out since sunday is hilarious. Get it right ****ing up you scumbags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) Celtic and Rodgers have been trying to get rid of VAR for ages and too many idiots are agreeing with them . We have benefitted from actually getting decisions we never would have before it was introduced . They are just pissed off that they do not get away with all the things they used to . VAR is great , it is just the idiots controlling it who need chased Edited March 5 by Sooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 so the green minded ref gets 3 key decisions wrong (both pens and red card) all in favour of Celtic and the big bad blue minded VAR official, corrects all 3 decisions and in their deluded World he's the bad guy. These muppets get worse at every turn !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 21 minutes ago, highlandjambo3 said: So when’s the decision announced? Presumably it has to be approved by Neil Doncaster, the Celtic Board, the Glasgow media and the Vatican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, gnasher75 said: Presumably it has to be approved by Neil Doncaster, the Celtic Board, the Glasgow media and the Vatican. Also the King, the Rothschilds, and Colonel Sanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Largo Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Both Yang & Mayo red card stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomm1874 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Largo said: Both Yang & Mayo red card stands Claim dismissed. A1 – Serious Foul Play; the original sanction is re-imposed with immediate effect. £500 fee forfeited to be paid within 30 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDJ87 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 hours ago, Dallas Green said: Has any reporter not brought up his complete hypocrisy regarding his comments of the St. Mirren red card? Listening to, I think, Brian McLaughlin after the match interview BR, Brian was playing into BR's narrative that big bad VAR was an issue. Pathetic. Shitebags the lot of them if they haven't. Said it at the time the BBC were not challenging him on any of his pish. Dunno why I expected more tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, Largo said: Both Yang & Mayo red card stands Glorious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, tomm1874 said: Claim dismissed. A1 – Serious Foul Play; the original sanction is re-imposed with immediate effect. £500 fee forfeited to be paid within 30 days. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣right roond thum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, Largo said: Both Yang & Mayo red card stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferryjambo99 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Fabulous. Notice of complaint next please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlo Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, No Idle Talk said: Between Brendan Rodgers, Neil Lennon, Chris Sutton, any other spunk bubble who has ever pulled on a Celtic strip, and my Facebook feed, I am getting increasingly irate about the amount of whingeing these *******s are doing. It's even more annoying seeing the likes of Neil McCann going in to bat for them. ALL of the talk is about the red card and the penalty we got. Their non penalty is just completely glossed over. Only Steven Naismith and perhaps Kris Boyd have referenced it. That I have heard anyway. I have never seen a team anywhere who are so unable to accept that they lost a football match fair and square. I hate them. So so much. Stuff like this just crystallises the loathing and utter contempt I feel for the way they conduct themselves. I'm not sure what is more inexcusable here, the churlish reaction of Rodgers and Celtic to Sunday's game or the willingness of the media to indulge their moaning. The red card was a sending off all day long. Honestly, to look and listen to a lot of the media coverage these last few days, you could be forgiven for actually missing what the scoreline was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, SectionDJambo said: Jose Goncalves was sent off playing for Hearts, years ago, for similar to Sunday's incident. No uproar in the media about it, that I can remember. That was just outside the box at Roseburn end? Not 'studs up' as I recall. More top of the boot but certainly high. But, aye, no extended media forensics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Clearly a conspiracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 It's a nonsense it's not been extended in all honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma One Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 17 minutes ago, maroonsgotop said: so the green minded ref gets 3 key decisions wrong (both pens and red card) all in favour of Celtic and the big bad blue minded VAR official, corrects all 3 decisions and in their deluded World he's the bad guy. These muppets get worse at every turn !!!!!! Was the boy walking to the job centre when it was recorded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgierools Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, Sigma One said: Was the boy walking to the job centre when it was recorded? I very much doubt it. Drop in centre. maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 17 minutes ago, Largo said: Both Yang & Mayo red card stands I'm not seeing this reported anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Requesting the audio 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferryjambo99 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, John Findlay said: I'm not seeing this reported anywhere. Reported on Sky Sports and you can find it in the "Football Governence" section of the SFA website under disciplinary updates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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