The Mighty Thor Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 hours ago, Tazio said: There a couple of those families just off the top of my head I could name. 5 hours ago, John Findlay said: I think we could name the same families. We probably could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 20 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Sad but the reality. Free education doesn't even scratch the surface with some people. Absolute bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameronstheman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 A murder in a big city, shckaroony .Nothing like what happens in say Manchester/Liverpool. Still shit though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Thunder and Lightning said: Does it make everyone feel good to pile into James? People ganging up on a poster is bad patter. If you didn't all talk about him he wouldn't have to reply to them all. But of course people know this so do it for a reaction. Poor show this shit is still allowed on here. 1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Yes . Happens all the time . There’s a name for it . I only reply when I’m getting insulted etc so it then just snow balls . Tragic “ patter “ from the same bunch of people . 1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said: I still Stand by that . Forget about the religious context to it . The underlying theme is no one is a saint . He clearly wasn’t . What about the family of the murdered ? Do they deserve to suffer too ? Where does it end ? Retribution ? Anyway out of respect to the victims family who are grieving , I won’t be piling on more pain to them . Edinburgh is a small place , a village and any of his family and friends might be on this or have people are . Some sensitivity to that would be appreciated . 1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said: And get a life . Imagine trawling through this to try and catch me out . Pathetic . Truly pathetic . It’s not exactly a gotcha moment . Utterly tragic . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Can’t beat a thread where James ties himself in knots. Or is that just every thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 9 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: Pants pulled down and we've not even finished the first day of the new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 16 minutes ago, Cameronstheman said: A murder in a big city, shckaroony .Nothing like what happens in say Manchester/Liverpool. Still shit though Not really. Just another druggie schemie gone. New Town Young Team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 14 minutes ago, Generic Username said: Pants pulled down and we've not even finished the first day of the new year. What a tragic life you lead . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: What a tragic life you lead . What about my family? Do they deserve to suffer too? Where does it end? Out of respect to my family, you shouldn't be piling on more pain to them . Edinburgh is a small place , a village and any of my family and friends might be on this. Some sensitivity to that would be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, Generic Username said: What about my family? Do they deserve to suffer too? Where does it end? Out of respect to my family, you shouldn't be piling on more pain to them . Edinburgh is a small place , a village and any of my family and friends might be on this. Some sensitivity to that would be appreciated Comparing mild retorts on this to being murdered strikes as the very height of narcissism . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Taking this de-breeking very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Comparing mild retorts on this to being murdered strikes as the very height of narcissism . Can’t imagine you ever being on jury duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PH Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Please stop saying Edinburgh is a village and a small place, it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Any word on who the 39-year-old man who was also shot is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Sir PH said: Please stop saying Edinburgh is a village and a small place, it's not. You might live like a hermit but I know plenty people in the big village which is Edinburgh . From ALL walks of life . 👍👍😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, JudyJudyJudy said: You might live like a hermit but I know plenty people in the big village which is Edinburgh . From ALL walks of life . 👍👍😎 And of course let’s not forget you know everyone in Musselburgh too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PH Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: You might live like a hermit but I know plenty people in the big village which is Edinburgh . From ALL walks of life . 👍👍😎 Yes, I don't doubt that. But it's not a village and not a small place. It's one of the biggest cities in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, kila said: And of course let’s not forget you know everyone in Musselburgh too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 19 minutes ago, kila said: Can’t imagine you ever being on jury duty. Only ever on Judy duty? 🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: I can't hear anything on the video in the link, is that just me? Any info on the gun used, I like guns. Loaded one methinks 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 33 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: What a tragic life you lead . Talking to yourself again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Wee Mikey said: Only ever on Judy duty? 🙃 Et tu Mikey 😎😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Absolute bollocks. Prove it. If children are raised by feral parents, grandparents etc... what do you think they'll become? I work with kids who've suffered trauma, poverty and various types of abuse, some can't even count their fingers at age 7. Their brains are affected even while in the womb. If we want to stop the violence and crime, we need to understand what creates it. That doesn't mean the crimes are excused BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Prove it. If children are raised by feral parents, grandparents etc... what do you think they'll become? I work with kids who've suffered trauma, poverty and various types of abuse, some can't even count their fingers at age 7. Their brains are affected even while in the womb. If we want to stop the violence and crime, we need to understand what creates it. That doesn't mean the crimes are excused BTW. THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Prove it. If children are raised by feral parents, grandparents etc... what do you think they'll become? I work with kids who've suffered trauma, poverty and various types of abuse, some can't even count their fingers at age 7. Their brains are affected even while in the womb. If we want to stop the violence and crime, we need to understand what creates it. That doesn't mean the crimes are excused BTW. 6 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: THIS Maybe state intervention is required to get it right for every child, with a named person coordinating the professional support? 😊 Edited January 1 by the posh bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, the posh bit said: Maybe state intervention is required to get it right for every child, with a named person coordinating the professional support? 😊 Named person was voted down/ scrapped IIRC. Would be a small part of a solution to an intergenerational problem. As it stands, social work, police teachers, psychologists and other professionals can all cooperate in a child's education/ care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Gundermann said: Named person was voted down/ scrapped IIRC. Would be a small part of a solution to an intergenerational problem. As it stands, social work, police teachers, psychologists and other professionals can all cooperate in a child's education/ care. It definitely wasn't scrapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: I still Stand by that . Forget about the religious context to it . The underlying theme is no one is a saint . He clearly wasn’t . What about the family of the murdered ? Do they deserve to suffer too ? Where does it end ? Retribution ? Anyway out of respect to the victims family who are grieving , I won’t be piling on more pain to them . Edinburgh is a small place , a village and any of his family and friends might be on this or have people are . Some sensitivity to that would be appreciated . Which is sweet of you buddy. It really is. But a couple of days ago ye were ripping into folk having bairns cheating the dole and the kiddie on parliament of facilitating the feckless. Who pretty much come from the same socioeconomic group buy are likely to have been a victim if this threads martyrdom. I'm not getting all moral oan ye I'm just telling you why I've found it funny as fek. You're a great poster buddy. **** his pals btw they or him would not want or expect if were going dog eat dog gadge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 The boy who died sounded like a grade A fud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, the posh bit said: It definitely wasn't scrapped. Yes, Tories and churches (!!) objected. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49753980 What we have is now voluntary. As if the most at risk will just volunteer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 21 minutes ago, the posh bit said: Maybe state intervention is required to get it right for every child, with a named person coordinating the professional support? 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 24 minutes ago, the posh bit said: Maybe state intervention is required to get it right for every child, with a named person coordinating the professional support? 😊 Aye because state intervention has worked a treat for the vulnerable children in Scotland. State/Establishment in the UK or any Western country as a beacon of hope for working class ,vulnerable kids doesn't fill ne with confidence. Only dread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 16 minutes ago, Ked said: Which is sweet of you buddy. It really is. But a couple of days ago ye were ripping into folk having bairns cheating the dole and the kiddie on parliament of facilitating the feckless. Who pretty much come from the same socioeconomic group buy are likely to have been a victim if this threads martyrdom. I'm not getting all moral oan ye I'm just telling you why I've found it funny as fek. You're a great poster buddy. **** his pals btw they or him would not want or expect if were going dog eat dog gadge. yeah, **** that ned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_Gaz Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 8 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Yes, Tories and churches (!!) objected. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49753980 What we have is now voluntary. As if the most at risk will just volunteer... There was much more objection to that government overreach than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Posh bit we already have relatively effective state intervention , which is called social services who can intervene if they believe babies and children are at risk of emotional , physical abuse and neglect . The named person. Scheme was targeted at every child and their parents , instead of social services which targets support to those in actual need or at risk . It would have been a massive waste of resources and ineffective as well as an overreach of the state to pursue it . Target resources in deprived and needy areas . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Yes, Tories and churches (!!) objected. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49753980 What we have is now voluntary. As if the most at risk will just volunteer... Often grass roots volunteering takes place from survivors . It's rarely been helped by the establishment. You and others need to chill the fek out with your dogma ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, south morocco said: That vid is totally bonkers, bizarre etc. Where is the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, Herbert. said: Where is the video? https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25214140/marc-webley-edinburgh-shot-dead-granton/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 34 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Prove it. If children are raised by feral parents, grandparents etc... what do you think they'll become? I work with kids who've suffered trauma, poverty and various types of abuse, some can't even count their fingers at age 7. Their brains are affected even while in the womb. If we want to stop the violence and crime, we need to understand what creates it. That doesn't mean the crimes are excused BTW. You are an excuse maker. You blame every I'll on poverty. This is very personal I was physically abused as a child. By my mother who was an alcoholic. She on occasion burst my nose and bruised my body severely. When I was just aged Eight my parents split up. I was asked to choose between Father and Mother. I chose my Father as he didn't physically abuse me. By the time I was aged Eleven I had attended Six different primary schools. In order. Royston, Almond Bank(Livingston), Dalmuir West(Dalmuir), Pirniehall, St Catherine's, and St Peter's. The last one whilst I was in the children's home, Canaan Lodge in Canaan Lane, Morningside. I was still in the home when I started secondary school at St Thomas's, which turned out to be my only secondary school. Here's the thing I could read and count before I left Royston. Why was that, because even that young I knew I was at school to learn and more importantly I knew right from wrong and how to behave. I have known hunger, and cold as a child and wearing the same clothes for a week. Having very bad head lice as a child that I had to go to a place on the high street to have a nit nurse wash my hair thoroughly, and get rid of the lice. Unlike you I don't use it as an excuse for the times when I have been brassic and hungry, admittedly far more often as a child than an adult. I have never turned to crime, as that was the easy option. I have never had a police record and never will. I have had 6pts on my driving licence for Two speeding offences, and the only person responsible for them was myself. I could tell you far more, but you would think it was so far fetched and wouldn't believe me. Good luck in your work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Shanks said no said: Any word on who the 39-year-old man who was also shot is? Its not his brother Don who was mentioned as with him as he is aged 41 according to previous reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25214140/marc-webley-edinburgh-shot-dead-granton/ christ, as that story goes on, the amount of absolute strokers involved increases drastically. A set of ******s Who’s the arsehole from south Edinburgh that he was in a feud with? Edited January 1 by Dusk_Till_Dawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, John Findlay said: You are an excuse maker. You blame every I'll on poverty. This is very personal I was physically abused as a child. By my mother who was an alcoholic. She on occasion burst my nose and bruised my body severely. When I was just aged Eight my parents split up. I was asked to choose between Father and Mother. I chose my Father as he didn't physically abuse me. By the time I was aged Eleven I had attended Six different primary schools. In order. Royston, Almond Bank(Livingston), Dalmuir West(Dalmuir), Pirniehall, St Catherine's, and St Peter's. The last one whilst I was in the children's home, Canaan Lodge in Canaan Lane, Morningside. I was still in the home when I started secondary school at St Thomas's, which turned out to be my only secondary school. Here's the thing I could read and count before I left Royston. Why was that, because even that young I knew I was at school to learn and more importantly I knew right from wrong and how to behave. I have known hunger, and cold as a child and wearing the same clothes for a week. Having very bad head lice as a child that I had to go to a place on the high street to have a nit nurse wash my hair thoroughly, and get rid of the lice. Unlike you I don't use it as an excuse for the times when I have been brassic and hungry, admittedly far more often as a child than an adult. I have never turned to crime, as that was the easy option. I have never had a police record and never will. I have had 6pts on my driving licence for Two speeding offences, and the only person responsible for them was myself. I could tell you far more, but you would think it was so far fetched and wouldn't believe me. Good luck in your work. Fair play to you for sharing that John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muldoon74 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 43 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Named person was voted down/ scrapped IIRC. Would be a small part of a solution to an intergenerational problem. As it stands, social work, police teachers, psychologists and other professionals can all cooperate in a child's education/ care. They do their job and try to make a difference but the biggest influence is and always will be family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south morocco Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, John Findlay said: You are an excuse maker. You blame every I'll on poverty. This is very personal I was physically abused as a child. By my mother who was an alcoholic. She on occasion burst my nose and bruised my body severely. When I was just aged Eight my parents split up. I was asked to choose between Father and Mother. I chose my Father as he didn't physically abuse me. By the time I was aged Eleven I had attended Six different primary schools. In order. Royston, Almond Bank(Livingston), Dalmuir West(Dalmuir), Pirniehall, St Catherine's, and St Peter's. The last one whilst I was in the children's home, Canaan Lodge in Canaan Lane, Morningside. I was still in the home when I started secondary school at St Thomas's, which turned out to be my only secondary school. Here's the thing I could read and count before I left Royston. Why was that, because even that young I knew I was at school to learn and more importantly I knew right from wrong and how to behave. I have known hunger, and cold as a child and wearing the same clothes for a week. Having very bad head lice as a child that I had to go to a place on the high street to have a nit nurse wash my hair thoroughly, and get rid of the lice. Unlike you I don't use it as an excuse for the times when I have been brassic and hungry, admittedly far more often as a child than an adult. I have never turned to crime, as that was the easy option. I have never had a police record and never will. I have had 6pts on my driving licence for Two speeding offences, and the only person responsible for them was myself. I could tell you far more, but you would think it was so far fetched and wouldn't believe me. Good luck in your work. You shouldn’t put that up mate. No need to justify yourself. I read so far then stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, muldoon74 said: They do their job and try to make a difference but the biggest influence is and always will be family. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 32 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Yes, Tories and churches (!!) objected. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49753980 What we have is now voluntary. As if the most at risk will just volunteer... The named person scheme still exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, John Findlay said: You are an excuse maker. You blame every I'll on poverty. This is very personal I was physically abused as a child. By my mother who was an alcoholic. She on occasion burst my nose and bruised my body severely. When I was just aged Eight my parents split up. I was asked to choose between Father and Mother. I chose my Father as he didn't physically abuse me. By the time I was aged Eleven I had attended Six different primary schools. In order. Royston, Almond Bank(Livingston), Dalmuir West(Dalmuir), Pirniehall, St Catherine's, and St Peter's. The last one whilst I was in the children's home, Canaan Lodge in Canaan Lane, Morningside. I was still in the home when I started secondary school at St Thomas's, which turned out to be my only secondary school. Here's the thing I could read and count before I left Royston. Why was that, because even that young I knew I was at school to learn and more importantly I knew right from wrong and how to behave. I have known hunger, and cold as a child and wearing the same clothes for a week. Having very bad head lice as a child that I had to go to a place on the high street to have a nit nurse wash my hair thoroughly, and get rid of the lice. Unlike you I don't use it as an excuse for the times when I have been brassic and hungry, admittedly far more often as a child than an adult. I have never turned to crime, as that was the easy option. I have never had a police record and never will. I have had 6pts on my driving licence for Two speeding offences, and the only person responsible for them was myself. I could tell you far more, but you would think it was so far fetched and wouldn't believe me. Good luck in your work. Tbf John not everyone has the heart you have . Respect though . But mind as previous posts judge not ye unless by Judge Judy. 🤣🤣🤣 Good post buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south morocco Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Its not his brother Don who was mentioned as with him as he is aged 41 according to previous reports. I’m sure the plod are eagerly awaiting to find out more from whoever it was. I wondered who he has talking to on the clip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 25 minutes ago, Ked said: Aye because state intervention has worked a treat for the vulnerable children in Scotland. State/Establishment in the UK or any Western country as a beacon of hope for working class ,vulnerable kids doesn't fill ne with confidence. Only dread You carry on reading the Daily Express 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muldoon74 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25214140/marc-webley-edinburgh-shot-dead-granton/ All this shows is the utter base line that the sun works off of. Max hits for scum related videos and stories. The guy that was killed isn't even the main point of the story! It's some lottery winning tart!! 😂 Such lazy journalism, bung tart a few quid for story and don't bother with any sort of investigative, nitty gritty stuff that will actual involve you justifying your wage. Cretin. actually ****ing hate the modern era tbh... social media etc.. I just don't get how far the human race has fallen and why the majority of planet earth are willing to accept... perhaps its time to stop thinking and start drinking.. nothing will be solved tonight.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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