jambocub Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: Only 7 games left in the season, all crucial. Not sure we can afford to give him much game time to get fit. He was fit enough to put a shift in at training today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, gorgierulesapply88 said: Operative word, has been. He is only 29 tho. Not as tho he’s had a leg cut off and can never play again. He’s been back training for a month. Naismith played alongside him in a number of good Hearts performances so knows what Peter Haring can offer. It does seem a very long time since we saw him at his best but we’re entitled to hope for the best. If he could come back and find a bit of form that would go a long way to stopping the rot in our midfield. A better leader as well Pete is a PHM unlike Snodgrass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I love big Pete imo he was our best player before that groin injury that kept him out for so long but unfortunately he’s nowhere near that. level now especially since he’s just been out fur months again Like to see him get a game again but he’s not going to dominate games now keep hoping Grant gets a run as an attacking mid because I’m sure he’s got something about him going forward Needs to be given the freedom to attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicalEric Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, The White Cockade said: I love big Pete imo he was our best player before that groin injury that kept him out for so long but unfortunately he’s nowhere near that. level now especially since he’s just been out fur months again Like to see him get a game again but he’s not going to dominate games now keep hoping Grant gets a run as an attacking mid because I’m sure he’s got something about him going forward Needs to be given the freedom to attack This. Lovely bloke but even before he was injured this season he looked absolutely brutal in the games he played. On Saturday he looked miles off it. Can't believe after he did a basic turn and pass that folk are wanting him to start on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, LogicalEric said: This. Lovely bloke but even before he was injured this season he looked absolutely brutal in the games he played. On Saturday he looked miles off it. Can't believe after he did a basic turn and pass that folk are wanting him to start on Saturday. Kio it is then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Halliday and devlin will start Centre mid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Demolition Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 According to Gordon Forrest, Snodgrass and Neilson has a massive bust up last week. Snodgrass called Neilson out on the way he had been setting the team up and didn’t agree with his tactics. Majority of the players backed RS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LogicalEric said: This. Lovely bloke but even before he was injured this season he looked absolutely brutal in the games he played. On Saturday he looked miles off it. Can't believe after he did a basic turn and pass that folk are wanting him to start on Saturday. I mean to be fair, we are not flush with good midfield options. That’s the main reason I’m taking the “hope for the best” view with Haring because if he could get back sharp and find some form, he would be a significantly better shout at DM than any of Kio, Grant, Halliday. That is a big “if” tho, I can accept that. I actually think Mikey Smith might even be a possible shout for DM. Gamble on Atkinson at WB and stick him in the midfield with instructions to put tackles in and scrap. Has played there for NI. Honestly it’s pretty desperate times I just do not like the sound of Kio starting a derby, honestly gives me the fear. Type of game where his lack of effort & commitment will be exposed, ruthlessly. Like happened to Damour. Whereas Haring knows how to scrap and cuff that lot even if he is less mobile than the titanic in his most recent appearances Edited April 11, 2023 by A_A wehatethehibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1998 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, gnasher75 said: I don't know you and don't like your tone. Feel free to watch the game back. Gnasher do a gnash., you dont like my tone.smith is done ,He is a big part of the Robbie tactics.never forward .sideways or back.i don't need to watch any replays.i 100% know that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Heartsofgold said: Heard this as well from someone I trust completely. Was told Cochrane lamped him. Ooft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heres Rixxy Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hampden Demolition said: According to Gordon Forrest, Snodgrass and Neilson has a massive bust up last week. Snodgrass called Neilson out on the way he had been setting the team up and didn’t agree with his tactics. Majority of the players backed RS. That would surely work the opposite of what we are seeing now then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: I mean to be fair, we are not flush with good midfield options. That’s the main reason I’m taking the “hope for the best” view with Haring because if he could get back sharp and find some form, he would be a significantly better shout at DM than any of Kio, Grant, Halliday. That is a big “if” tho, I can accept that. I actually think Mikey Smith might even be a possible shout for DM. Gamble on Atkinson at WB and stick him in the midfield with instructions to put tackles in and scrap. Has played there for NI. Honestly it’s pretty desperate times I just do not like the sound of Kio starting a derby, honestly gives me the fear. Type of game where his lack of effort & commitment will be exposed, ruthlessly. Like happened to Damour. Whereas Haring knows how to scrap and cuff that lot even if he is less mobile than the titanic in his most recent appearances Honestly I hope any manager wants midfield signings as a priority as for years it's seemed like an after thought to everything else I think we fluked out with Beni and I think Devlin is a great battler with a ton of energy.But we really need some good quality in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Demolition Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Heres Rixxy said: That would surely work the opposite of what we are seeing now then? It’s possible that while RS had the backing from the majority of his team mates, the way he went about things overstepped the mark. It could be a case that he wasn’t going to be around next season anyway so the board want to cut their losses and show the other players that while they are entitled the their own opinions, there’s ways to deal with a situation like we have had. Only passing on what I’ve been told. Unfortunately not privy to every detail. Edited April 11, 2023 by Hampden Demolition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Led Tasso said: As I said above, Snoddy could have been the source of a split in the locker room getting up in the others' faces because of poor performances. To reconcile the locker room, you've got a 35 year old guy with 7 games on his contract who's suspended next week, and on the other (possibly) a bunch of young players whose form has tailed off but might benefit from a manager reset. Even if Snoddy was in the right, if you're trying to put the locker room back together, if one has to walk, send off the old short-timer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicalEric Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: I mean to be fair, we are not flush with good midfield options. That’s the main reason I’m taking the “hope for the best” view with Haring because if he could get back sharp and find some form, he would be a significantly better shout at DM than any of Kio, Grant, Halliday. That is a big “if” tho, I can accept that. I actually think Mikey Smith might even be a possible shout for DM. Gamble on Atkinson at WB and stick him in the midfield with instructions to put tackles in and scrap. Has played there for NI. Honestly it’s pretty desperate times I just do not like the sound of Kio starting a derby, honestly gives me the fear. Type of game where his lack of effort & commitment will be exposed, ruthlessly. Like happened to Damour. Whereas Haring knows how to scrap and cuff that lot even if he is less mobile than the titanic in his most recent appearances Agree with you on that one with Kio. Baffles me the clamour Neilson made about him being sought after plus shelling out 400k. Add in that he's the biggest bluffer in the squad, pointing fingers and moaning when he doesn't get the ball yet takes up awful positions so he can't receive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicalEric Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, jr ewing said: Kio it is then. Dear God no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Snodgrass went to the board about Robbie and training. Snodgrass had Robbie eating out the palm of his hand and everyone was raging he wouldn't get dropped. Cochrane punched Snodgrass. Snodgrass went mad at Neilson about tactics and all the players agreed with him. Yes, it is clear folk aren't just making shit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, john thomas said: Agree Smith is nearing the end of his career but the constant 'no legs' just isn't true. Totally agree I watched them train today there were younger players blown out there arse after an hour . Cochrane and smith being 2 of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just read a sky news thing on Facebook that Snodgrass is trying to negotiate an immediate end to his contract. No idea how to post the article here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, AlphonseCapone said: Snodgrass went to the board about Robbie and training. Snodgrass had Robbie eating out the palm of his hand and everyone was raging he wouldn't get dropped. Cochrane punched Snodgrass. Snodgrass went mad at Neilson about tactics and all the players agreed with him. Yes, it is clear folk aren't just making shit up. beautiful. Tomorrows news, Snograss has been found keeping Maddie McCann hostage in a Frizel style basement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, jambocub said: He was fit enough to put a shift in at training today Sorry, meant match fit. Hopefully he can get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: Snodgrass went to the board about Robbie and training. Snodgrass had Robbie eating out the palm of his hand and everyone was raging he wouldn't get dropped. Cochrane punched Snodgrass. Snodgrass went mad at Neilson about tactics and all the players agreed with him. Yes, it is clear folk aren't just making shit up. Snodders wasn't the enemy after all ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Now Cochrane is lamping people love jkb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Snodgrass came out of Pittodrie smiling. Everyone else grim. Don't think he gives a shit about Hearts only himself, hence we watched him take every set piece he could be bothered to take, often badly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, AlphonseCapone said: Snodgrass went to the board about Robbie and training. Snodgrass had Robbie eating out the palm of his hand and everyone was raging he wouldn't get dropped. Cochrane punched Snodgrass. Snodgrass went mad at Neilson about tactics and all the players agreed with him. Yes, it is clear folk aren't just making shit up. Apparently it was actually Beni and Boyce who both came in on crutches and worked their way around riccarton battering everyone like something out of Kill Bill. They managed to punch Robbie, Snodgrass, Cochrane, the entire board of directors and the dinner ladies before McKinlay managed to subdue them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, davemclaren said: Sorry, meant match fit. Hopefully he can get there. No need to say sorry They were all at it today and for first time in ages all looked like they were wanting to put a shift in That probably comes from a new manager and a new start ,but it encouraged me going into the derby that we'll be on the front door right from the start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, john thomas said: Agree Smith is nearing the end of his career but the constant 'no legs' just isn't true. Don't think anyone is arguing that he has 2 legs. Just that they don't work very well anymore. Great pro no doubt about that though. His attitude is one others should take heed of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, jambocub said: No need to say sorry They were all at it today and for first time in ages all looked like they were wanting to put a shift in That probably comes from a new manager and a new start ,but it encouraged me going into the derby that we'll be on the front door right from the start Did Naismith take the training today? Were Atkinson and Ginnelly involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, jambocub said: No need to say sorry They were all at it today and for first time in ages all looked like they were wanting to put a shift in That probably comes from a new manager and a new start ,but it encouraged me going into the derby that we'll be on the front door right from the start Certainly hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, 1953 said: Just read a sky news thing on Facebook that Snodgrass is trying to negotiate an immediate end to his contract. No idea how to post the article here https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11790/12855221/robert-snodgrass-hearts-midfielder-set-to-leave-after-just-seven-months Various other MSM articles saying he’s leaving with immediate effect/played his last game etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Luckies1874 said: Did Naismith take the training today? Were Atkinson and Ginnelly involved? Yes Naismith took training with McAvoy and Forrest ( but completely Naismith in charge of the whole session) Atkinson trained Ginelly didn't train in the session but came up for last ten minutes when Naismith had them all in for a blether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, jambocub said: Yes Naismith took training with McAvoy and Forrest ( but completely Naismith in charge of the whole session) Atkinson trained Ginelly didn't train in the session but came up for last ten minutes when Naismith had them all in for a blether Cheers 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 We almost gave this guy a 2 year extension or at least a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, jambocub said: Totally agree I watched them train today there were younger players blown out there arse after an hour . Cochrane and smith being 2 of them Somewhat confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, john thomas said: Somewhat confused Sorry Atkinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BackOfTheNet said: I have seen Haring, thank you very much. He’s been a shadow of himself, but Snodgrass has been worse than useless since St. Mirren away when he was easily figured out. And quite frankly, he’s been mediocre through his entire time, even when some were waxing lyrical. I’ve been consistent with this on almost every match day thread or others. So this isn’t a reaction to the rumours. I got absolutely hammered for saying he was poor away to St Johnstone at Christmas time. He somehow got MoTM but spent the whole game winging and shouting at others and his passing wasn't the best that day. Albeit now I thought he was good to have and has that bit of composure we need at times but his form recently has been pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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john thomas Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: Don't think anyone is arguing that he has 2 legs. Just that they don't work very well anymore. Great pro no doubt about that though. His attitude is one others should take heed of. Think the stats from last season , when his legs had gone again, proved they actually hadn't . Suspect stats may , again , have found his legs once more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Can't say I'll shed a tear if Snodgrass leaves early. He's not kicked a ball in weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, jonesy said: Hibs are more of a back door bunch, TBF. Lol foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Halliday and devlin will start Centre mid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Diadora Van Basten said: what’s wrong with that? Halliday probabky our most consistent player this season when fit. And on Saturday they were out best 2 players. Probably the only 2 who looked interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, 151 said: I got absolutely hammered for saying he was poor away to St Johnstone at Christmas time. He somehow got MoTM but spent the whole game winging and shouting at others and his passing wasn't the best that day. Albeit now I thought he was good to have and has that bit of composure we need at times but his form recently has been pish. I never got the hype. Even when he had good games he was a 7 or 8 at best and folk thought he was the best thing since sliced bread. I suppose it’s because he brought that composure and looked like he was strolling it at times. For me though that was in stark contrast to our midfield’s strengths from last season, when we got in teams faces. The man never won a ball or put in a decent tackle. In midfield. And we wonder why we were performing so badly and inconsistently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 So was Snodgrass an ally of Robbie’s or part of the reason Robbie ‘lost the dressing room’? If the latter, you’d think the board would have supported the manager and just binned Snodgrass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Torrance Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 With all this battering, punching and fisting, we're gonna need Rima's magic stick again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: what’s wrong with that? Halliday probabky our most consistent player this season when fit. And on Saturday they were out best 2 players. Probably the only 2 who looked interested Our midfield was non existent at the weekend. Devlin yes but I would pick Haring, Kio or Grant before Halliday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jager man Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 58 minutes ago, LogicalEric said: Agree with you on that one with Kio. Baffles me the clamour Neilson made about him being sought after plus shelling out 400k. Add in that he's the biggest bluffer in the squad, pointing fingers and moaning when he doesn't get the ball yet takes up awful positions so he can't receive it. This exactly. He hides when he should be showing. I think he has some good attributes, but not sitting midfield where you must always show for the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: Snodgrass went to the board about Robbie and training. Snodgrass had Robbie eating out the palm of his hand and everyone was raging he wouldn't get dropped. Cochrane punched Snodgrass. Snodgrass went mad at Neilson about tactics and all the players agreed with him. Yes, it is clear folk aren't just making shit up. All of it happened but in a different order. Snodgrass had Robbie eating out the palm of his hand and everyone was raging, so Cochrane punched him with the palm of his hand, Snodgrass then shat it and got himself a bouncer but Cochrane still scared him at training by threatening to punch him again (and shag his bird), so Snodgrass went to the board about Robbie and training, but then Snodgrass inadvertently shagged Cochrane's bird, so he tried to make it up to him by going mad at Neilson about tactics and all the players agreed with him. So McKinley sacked Neilson and told the squad that Joe Savage was the father of McKenzie Kirk and that Savage had been shagging Andy Kirk's wife for around two decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochcarronJambo Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, WageThief said: All of it happened but in a different order. Snodgrass had Robbie eating out the palm of his hand and everyone was raging, so Cochrane punched him with the palm of his hand, Snodgrass then shat it and got himself a bouncer but Cochrane still scared him at training by threatening to punch him again (and shag his bird), so Snodgrass went to the board about Robbie and training, but then Snodgrass inadvertently shagged Cochrane's bird, so he tried to make it up to him by going mad at Neilson about tactics and all the players agreed with him. So McKinley sacked Neilson and told the squad that Joe Savage was the father of McKenzie Kirk and that Savage had been shagging Andy Kirk's wife for around two decades. Had a good laugh reading that 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, WageThief said: All of it happened but in a different order. Snodgrass had Robbie eating out the palm of his hand and everyone was raging, so Cochrane punched him with the palm of his hand, Snodgrass then shat it and got himself a bouncer but Cochrane still scared him at training by threatening to punch him again (and shag his bird), so Snodgrass went to the board about Robbie and training, but then Snodgrass inadvertently shagged Cochrane's bird, so he tried to make it up to him by going mad at Neilson about tactics and all the players agreed with him. So McKinley sacked Neilson and told the squad that Joe Savage was the father of McKenzie Kirk and that Savage had been shagging Andy Kirk's wife for around two decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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