julienbrellier Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Essential Naismith gets a shot and recruit someone long term at the end of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 It’s about rolling the dice. Could end up another mcphee situation and does nothing to change anything, but at least we tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott980612 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: It’s about rolling the dice. Could end up another mcphee situation and does nothing to change anything, but at least we tried. This in a nutshell Do nothing - we fail. the evidence is there - Neilson can it stop the rot - times up Roll the dice with Naismith it could give us a chance , Don’t think any hearts fan expects Naismith to be a miracle worker or a managerial mastermind It’s a case of fresh set of eyes of things and stop the toxicity that currently running thru the club on & off the park Naismith in for Easter road - come on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam11 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Motherwell and Aberdeen recently got shot of their managers after woeful form, put in temp replacements similar to what Naismith would be, and the difference has been immediate and immense. While it does not guarantee anything at Hearts, it cannot be any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 I dont think he is the man for the job but get him in until the end of the season right now. ****ing sick of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, indianajones said: I dont think he is the man for the job but get him in until the end of the season right now. ****ing sick of it. This is were I am at and I reckon a good chunk of the support RN has stolen someone’s one liner “ I don’t know . I’m making this up as I go “ unfortunately for us one is out of a movie line , RN’s is from real life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, liam11 said: Motherwell and Aberdeen recently got shot of their managers after woeful form, put in temp replacements similar to what Naismith would be, and the difference has been immediate and immense. While it does not guarantee anything at Hearts, it cannot be any worse. It would be interesting to see if players such as Kio, Grant etc can actually play football or if they are just crap signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Bells Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Hearts need to get away from this Levein manager on-the-job training scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Jambo Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 I’d agree with those saying Naismith doesn’t have the credentials to be a serious contender for a permanent appointment, and it would be depressing if our board was seriously considering it. But we badly and urgently need a boost of some sort and one thing Naismith was always very good at was pointing the finger at others which might even be what we need. If any of our players come out and say anything in the press this week they should be dropped. Just keep the head down and screw the nut ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Naismith could be a good motivator and will command respect because of his playing career. I wouldn't have a problem with him getting the job until the summer and then reviewing things again after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirt of 98 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Naismith has my vote. Robbie not going to turn this round. A very wise man once told me if you do what you always did you’ll get what you always got. Robbie will continue on his path as he believes he’s right. His biggest failing is not having the vision to change it up when it’s not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Kirky Jambo said: I’d agree with those saying Naismith doesn’t have the credentials to be a serious contender for a permanent appointment, and it would be depressing if our board was seriously considering it. But we badly and urgently need a boost of some sort and one thing Naismith was always very good at was pointing the finger at others which might even be what we need. If any of our players come out and say anything in the press this week they should be dropped. Just keep the head down and screw the nut ffs. Not really disagreeing with you (and definitely agree with Naismith for interim role before Hibs game) but what credentials did Neilson have when he got appointed first time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottg71 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Has Naismith completed his coaching badges that would allow him to take the first team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 9, 2023 Author Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Not really disagreeing with you (and definitely agree with Naismith for interim role before Hibs game) but what credentials did Neilson have when he got appointed first time? He was Levein’s pet boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 As things stand, we could play Spartans and lose. I don't think we can buy a win right now. I don't see us beating Hibs, so the question for the board is could Naismith re-energise the team ? I think he possibly could. Johnson will be preparing for our slow lethargic play and aware of the lack of confidence etc. Perhaps making the change is the throw of the dice we need to win 3rd. Alternatively, Neilson continues on and we pray there is a reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 9, 2023 Author Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 05/04/2023 at 13:16, Thunder and Lightning said: Agreed, awful patter used by a select deranged few. The “Bob” thing was started by our would be JKB comedian - absolutely shit patter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Not really disagreeing with you (and definitely agree with Naismith for interim role before Hibs game) but what credentials did Neilson have when he got appointed first time? Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chong Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 11 hours ago, liam11 said: Motherwell and Aberdeen recently got shot of their managers after woeful form, put in temp replacements similar to what Naismith would be, and the difference has been immediate and immense. While it does not guarantee anything at Hearts, it cannot be any worse. Both acted immediately after poor results. Here we are the day after a team selection and performance like that and silence......he's going nowhere. I fear for him and his ability to turn this around but I'm praying the similarity of the Aberdeen decline doesn't have an identical ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I have no idea if Naismith is any good or not, but sure I read on here that the B team play the same style of football as the first team. If that’s true, I’m not sure I want more of the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 9, 2023 Author Share Posted April 9, 2023 Get Naismith in now until the end of the season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Elliott Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Yes please. Can’t be any of the first team coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Naismith and McEvoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Let's see how it goes with Naisy. He's played at the top level, a top pro in his day. Someone the players should respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 9, 2023 Author Share Posted April 9, 2023 7 hours ago, amadjambo said: I have no idea if Naismith is any good or not, but sure I read on here that the B team play the same style of football as the first team. If that’s true, I’m not sure I want more of the same. Not true. I’ve watched the young team play on a few occasions and they try to play positive football on the front foot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jager man Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Naismith and McEvoy That would be very sensible appointments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getintaethem Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I thought that the B team play the same formation as the first team, to allow players to learn the system. It’s probably not Naismith’s way of playing, but if the new manager alters the first team tactics, the B team will probably adjust to suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 9, 2023 Author Share Posted April 9, 2023 55 minutes ago, Getintaethem said: I thought that the B team play the same formation as the first team, to allow players to learn the system. It’s probably not Naismith’s way of playing, but if the new manager alters the first team tactics, the B team will probably adjust to suit That was all the grand plan spouted by Levein. It fell apart in a matter of months at the Academy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanjambo Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Naismith in before the derby - hopefully have similar impact as Robson at Aberdeen. Set the players up in a reasonable formation and who knows what may happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Agentjambo said: Naismith and McEvoy Who is McEvoy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I'd have thought it would be McAvoy with Naisy as his number 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, ramrod said: Who is McEvoy ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_McAvoy https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/frankie-mcavoy-appointed-academy-director Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 02/04/2023 at 22:21, Shooter McGavin said: Think people are looking towards Naismith in the hope we’d get a bounce like Barry Robson at Aberdeen, rather than actual merit. The Hearts B team are currently 12th in the lowland league. Sssshhhhh, don't post sensible stuff on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 minute ago, OTT said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_McAvoy https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/frankie-mcavoy-appointed-academy-director Ah looks like the obv choice to assist Naismith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 minute ago, ramrod said: Ah looks like the obv choice to assist Naismith Yeah, I mean its 6 and half a dozen, but I'd have probably given the top job to McAvoy with Naismith assisting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, ramrod said: Who is McEvoy ? Head of our academy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 9, 2023 Author Share Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) On 02/04/2023 at 22:21, Shooter McGavin said: Think people are looking towards Naismith in the hope we’d get a bounce like Barry Robson at Aberdeen, rather than actual merit. The Hearts B team are currently 12th in the lowland league. Having watched the B team on a few occasions they are down in 12th due to the lack of quality in our academy rather that Naismith’s coaching. The fact is Neilson has to go, he had lost the plot totally and the team have stopped playing for him! We need to bring in an interim coach and Naismith is the obvious choice at the Club. Personally I think we will get a bit of bounce now Robbie has gone both on the park and on the terracing. Edited April 9, 2023 by Thomaso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Head of our academy Yeah just read that above, looks the ideal person to get us organised and evaluate the squad, is it confirmed or just a suggestion. Like the look of him and Naismith till the end of the season and beyond if we nuck 3rd spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Drifter Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 01/04/2023 at 17:28, Thomaso said: Just putting it out there… I honetly don't think we have any choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 There is only one person on the books who has managed the first team and has a great record of beating our next opponents. Lockie til the end of the season would do for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Thomaso said: Having watched the B team on a few occasions they are down in 12th due to the lack of quality in our academy rather that Naismith’s coaching. The fact is Neilson has to go, he had lost the plot totally and the team have stopped playing for him! We need to bring in an interim coach and Naismith is the obvious choice at the Club. Personally I think we will get a bit of bounce now Robbie has gone both on the park and on the terracing. It's pretty difficult to see why it could've gone so badly wrong for Robbie. Great backing from the Board. Window shut and allowed funds to being in Clark and Snodgrass isn't a bad place to be as a manager at this level. In the cold light of day he's going to require some introspection to get to the bottom of this one I reckon. Collapse has been alarming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 The last time we promoted our youth coach to the first team it turned out very well. I'm all in favor of doing it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: There is only one person on the books who has managed the first team and has a great record of beating our next opponents. Lockie til the end of the season would do for me. I'm in favor of this if we can get Hibs to bring back Terry Butcher for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: There is only one person on the books who has managed the first team and has a great record of beating our next opponents. Lockie til the end of the season would do for me. And "been there done things" as assist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gards Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 As asked above (but not yet answered)...does Naismith have all his coaching badges....if not then someone will need to be in there with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Bound to be Naismith at least till end of season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pap Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Would be happy with Frankie & Stevie until the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djnoisy Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 McAvoy would be favourite to get the nod with Naismith as his assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hearts007 said: Bound to be Naismith at least till end of season Why? In all seriousness, why would Hearts sack Robbie and appoint Naismith until the end of the season? What is the logic here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, Weakened Offender said: Why? In all seriousness, why would Hearts sack Robbie and appoint Naismith until the end of the season? What is the logic here? Unless they have someone lined up to step right in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 9, 2023 Author Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Carter said: It's pretty difficult to see why it could've gone so badly wrong for Robbie. Great backing from the Board. Window shut and allowed funds to being in Clark and Snodgrass isn't a bad place to be as a manager at this level. In the cold light of day he's going to require some introspection to get to the bottom of this one I reckon. Collapse has been alarming. The honest answer is that the good results masked some pretty poor performances. Wins were dug out by a combination of individual brilliance, luck and the opposition fluffing their chances. Whisper it but Hibs played us off the park in the second half of both our latest 3-0 wins with our late goals glossing over our 90 minute performances! Mention that and you’re branded a Hibee or you get the “I don’t give a feck if we win” macho comment. But if we are honest these poor performances were always going to bite back at us sometime and here we are in total collapse! Removing Neilson is the first step to arresting that collapse and hopefully the players will respond to the more aggressive and positive coaching of the interim coach/Naismith. Certainly I feel the fans will pitch up at ER in a more positive mood now that Neilson has gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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