periodictabledancer Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 41 minutes ago, Victorian said: The groceries sector is highly exposed to and reactive to each marketplace it operates in. The large grocers know their customers and the contents of their customers' pockets. It is no accident that UK grocers are reluctant to pay the going rate for produce that is being procured by European counterparts. It would help if UK grocers were not fully aware of the scale of how their customers are being bent double by other household budget outgoings that are a different picture elsewhere. No accident. Seeing some stuff on Twitter last night - admittedly not a huge sample - the costs in the EU are still cheaper than what we're paying in the UK (even if we could get it) so something doesn't add up. No evidence of rocketing prices in the EU that you'd expect when there's a "shortage". Maybe it's still to filter through... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 hours ago, RobboM said: Remember when Brexit was all promises and sunlit uplands. Now it's turnips for breakfast 😂 And the morons that voted for it are still too daft to understand how thick they are. Ah well, who needs trade deals, a more protected economy and food when you’ve got a blue passport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) On the general point of a lack of food security, shortages and a goverment who doesn't care or understand what's going on : Just watch this clip. Coffey in total denial about the state of British farming even when told by the head of the NFU of specific failures. Edited February 22, 2023 by periodictabledancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just buy some different veg for a few days until the supply issues resolve themselves? Also, everyone declaring supply is fine on the continent but can any of us say with absolute certainty that we currently know what every EU member state is stocking. I for one would have no clue or care if Poland had to go a few days without a specific couple of products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, BlueRiver said: Just buy some different veg for a few days until the supply issues resolve themselves? Also, everyone declaring supply is fine on the continent but can any of us say with absolute certainty that we currently know what every EU member state is stocking. I for one would have no clue or care if Poland had to go a few days without a specific couple of products. Ok, whose up for turnip & parsnip salad ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, periodictabledancer said: Ok, whose up for turnip & parsnip salad ? Of course turnip and parsnip being the only other two vegetables available in the whole world. Even then don't knock it - https://www.yummly.com/amp/recipe/Winter-Panzanella-Salad-2099061 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) Here we go, the great British tomato shortage explained. Britain decided to , post brexit , buy produce from a much further away country* (Morocco ) which provided 25% of our needs. But when the "shortage" hit those dirty Morrocans decided to give the EU priority cos their EU trade deal is worth MUCH more (who knew ?). So nowt for UK and no issues in Europe. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/tomato-shortage-leaves-brexit-britain-red-faced/ * Post-brexit Britain seems to buy a lot of stuff from further away countries now. Edited February 22, 2023 by periodictabledancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, BlueRiver said: Of course turnip and parsnip being the only other two vegetables available in the whole world. Even then don't knock it - https://www.yummly.com/amp/recipe/Winter-Panzanella-Salad-2099061 I'm supporting British farmers and only using UK winter vegetables from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, periodictabledancer said: I'm supporting British farmers and only using UK winter vegetables from now on. I'd imagine they're a bit more diversified than just turnip and parsnip even then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 32 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: And the morons that voted for it are still too daft to understand how thick they are. Ah well, who needs trade deals, a more protected economy and food when you’ve got a blue passport? Made in Poland. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: I'm supporting British farmers and only using UK winter vegetables from now on. Found this about in season fruit & veg Seasonal UK grown produce January Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Celery, Chicory, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Squash, Swedes, Turnips, White Cabbage. February Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Chicory, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Purple Sprouting Broccoli, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Squash, Swedes, White Cabbage. March Artichoke, Beetroot, Carrots, Chicory, Leeks, Parsnip, Purple Sprouting Broccoli, Radishes, Rhubarb, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Watercress. April Artichoke, Beetroot, Carrots, Chicory, New Potatoes, Kale, Morel Mushrooms, Parsnips, Radishes, Rhubarb, Rocket, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Watercress. May Artichoke, Asparagus, Aubergine, Beetroot, Chicory, Chillies, Elderflowers, Lettuce, Marrow, New Potatoes, Peas, Peppers, Radishes, Rhubarb, Rocket, Samphire, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Sweetheart Cabbage, Watercress. June Asparagus, Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackcurrants, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Elderflowers, Gooseberries, Lettuce, Marrow, New Potatoes, Peas, Peppers, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tayberries, Turnips, Watercress. July Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Blackcurrants, Blueberries, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Carrots, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Gooseberries, Greengages, Fennel, French Beans, Garlic, Kohlrabi, Loganberries, New Potatoes, Onions, Peas, Potatoes, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swish Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress. August Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Blackcurrants, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Carrots, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Damsons, Fennel, French Beans, Garlic, Greengages, Kohlrabi, Leeks, Lettuce, Loganberries, Mangetout, Marrow, Mushrooms, Parsnips, Peas, Peppers, Potatoes, Plums, Pumpkin, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Watercress, White Cabbage. September Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celery, Courgettes, Chicory, Chillies, Cucumber, Damsons, Garlic, Kale, Kohlrabi, Leeks, Lettuce, Mangetout, Marrow, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Peas, Peppers, Plums, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Radishes, Raspberries, Red Cabbage, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, White Cabbage. October Aubergine, Apples, Beetroot, Blackberries, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Chillies, Courgette, Cucumber, Elderberries, Kale, Leeks, Lettuce, Marrow, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Peas, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Radishes, Red Cabbage, Rocket, Runner Beans, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Summer Squash, Swede, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. November Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Cranberries, Elderberries, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Swede, Swiss Chard, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. December Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Cranberries, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Swede, Swiss Chard, Turnips, Watercress, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, Pasquale for King said: Found this about in season fruit & veg Seasonal UK grown produce January Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Celery, Chicory, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Squash, Swedes, Turnips, White Cabbage. February Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Chicory, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Purple Sprouting Broccoli, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Squash, Swedes, White Cabbage. March Artichoke, Beetroot, Carrots, Chicory, Leeks, Parsnip, Purple Sprouting Broccoli, Radishes, Rhubarb, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Watercress. April Artichoke, Beetroot, Carrots, Chicory, New Potatoes, Kale, Morel Mushrooms, Parsnips, Radishes, Rhubarb, Rocket, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Watercress. May Artichoke, Asparagus, Aubergine, Beetroot, Chicory, Chillies, Elderflowers, Lettuce, Marrow, New Potatoes, Peas, Peppers, Radishes, Rhubarb, Rocket, Samphire, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Sweetheart Cabbage, Watercress. June Asparagus, Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackcurrants, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Elderflowers, Gooseberries, Lettuce, Marrow, New Potatoes, Peas, Peppers, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tayberries, Turnips, Watercress. July Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Blackcurrants, Blueberries, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Carrots, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Gooseberries, Greengages, Fennel, French Beans, Garlic, Kohlrabi, Loganberries, New Potatoes, Onions, Peas, Potatoes, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swish Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress. August Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Blackcurrants, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Carrots, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Damsons, Fennel, French Beans, Garlic, Greengages, Kohlrabi, Leeks, Lettuce, Loganberries, Mangetout, Marrow, Mushrooms, Parsnips, Peas, Peppers, Potatoes, Plums, Pumpkin, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Watercress, White Cabbage. September Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celery, Courgettes, Chicory, Chillies, Cucumber, Damsons, Garlic, Kale, Kohlrabi, Leeks, Lettuce, Mangetout, Marrow, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Peas, Peppers, Plums, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Radishes, Raspberries, Red Cabbage, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, White Cabbage. October Aubergine, Apples, Beetroot, Blackberries, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Chillies, Courgette, Cucumber, Elderberries, Kale, Leeks, Lettuce, Marrow, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Peas, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Radishes, Red Cabbage, Rocket, Runner Beans, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Summer Squash, Swede, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. November Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Cranberries, Elderberries, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Swede, Swiss Chard, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. December Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Cranberries, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Swede, Swiss Chard, Turnips, Watercress, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. Aye but what good is all of that when you only think of a salad as some tomatoes and cucumber thrown in beside lettuce?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Found this about in season fruit & veg Seasonal UK grown produce January Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Celery, Chicory, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Squash, Swedes, Turnips, White Cabbage. February Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Chicory, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Purple Sprouting Broccoli, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Squash, Swedes, White Cabbage. March Artichoke, Beetroot, Carrots, Chicory, Leeks, Parsnip, Purple Sprouting Broccoli, Radishes, Rhubarb, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Watercress. April Artichoke, Beetroot, Carrots, Chicory, New Potatoes, Kale, Morel Mushrooms, Parsnips, Radishes, Rhubarb, Rocket, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Watercress. May Artichoke, Asparagus, Aubergine, Beetroot, Chicory, Chillies, Elderflowers, Lettuce, Marrow, New Potatoes, Peas, Peppers, Radishes, Rhubarb, Rocket, Samphire, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Sweetheart Cabbage, Watercress. June Asparagus, Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackcurrants, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Elderflowers, Gooseberries, Lettuce, Marrow, New Potatoes, Peas, Peppers, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tayberries, Turnips, Watercress. July Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Blackcurrants, Blueberries, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Carrots, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Gooseberries, Greengages, Fennel, French Beans, Garlic, Kohlrabi, Loganberries, New Potatoes, Onions, Peas, Potatoes, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swish Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress. August Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Blackcurrants, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Carrots, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Damsons, Fennel, French Beans, Garlic, Greengages, Kohlrabi, Leeks, Lettuce, Loganberries, Mangetout, Marrow, Mushrooms, Parsnips, Peas, Peppers, Potatoes, Plums, Pumpkin, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Watercress, White Cabbage. September Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celery, Courgettes, Chicory, Chillies, Cucumber, Damsons, Garlic, Kale, Kohlrabi, Leeks, Lettuce, Mangetout, Marrow, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Peas, Peppers, Plums, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Radishes, Raspberries, Red Cabbage, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, White Cabbage. October Aubergine, Apples, Beetroot, Blackberries, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Chillies, Courgette, Cucumber, Elderberries, Kale, Leeks, Lettuce, Marrow, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Peas, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Radishes, Red Cabbage, Rocket, Runner Beans, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Summer Squash, Swede, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. November Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Cranberries, Elderberries, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Swede, Swiss Chard, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. December Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Cranberries, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Swede, Swiss Chard, Turnips, Watercress, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. Pretty sorted for beetroot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, Lovecraft said: Pretty sorted for beetroot. Love it , maybe the colour 🤔😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Love it , maybe the colour 🤔😂 Same. Love the stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, BlueRiver said: Aye but what good is all of that when you only think of a salad as some tomatoes and cucumber thrown in beside lettuce?! As someone who is trying to expand their food horizons theres so much you can group together nowadays, if its available obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Love it , maybe the colour 🤔😂 Just now, Lovecraft said: Same. Love the stuff. Pair of wrong uns.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, Pasquale for King said: As someone who is trying to expand their food horizons theres so much you can group together nowadays, if its available obviously. 100%. I made a big dietary shift a few years ago and it's really eye opening how much you can do when you decide to give it a bit more thought and not reach for the same old familiar options. I mean there are greater issues at play behind some of these shortages but some reactions seem a bit OTT to not being able to get hold of a cucumber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: Made in Poland. 😆 By a French company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Found this about in season fruit & veg Seasonal UK grown produce January Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Celery, Chicory, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Squash, Swedes, Turnips, White Cabbage. February Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Chicory, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Purple Sprouting Broccoli, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Squash, Swedes, White Cabbage. March Artichoke, Beetroot, Carrots, Chicory, Leeks, Parsnip, Purple Sprouting Broccoli, Radishes, Rhubarb, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Watercress. April Artichoke, Beetroot, Carrots, Chicory, New Potatoes, Kale, Morel Mushrooms, Parsnips, Radishes, Rhubarb, Rocket, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Watercress. May Artichoke, Asparagus, Aubergine, Beetroot, Chicory, Chillies, Elderflowers, Lettuce, Marrow, New Potatoes, Peas, Peppers, Radishes, Rhubarb, Rocket, Samphire, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Sweetheart Cabbage, Watercress. June Asparagus, Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackcurrants, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Elderflowers, Gooseberries, Lettuce, Marrow, New Potatoes, Peas, Peppers, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tayberries, Turnips, Watercress. July Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Blackcurrants, Blueberries, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Carrots, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Gooseberries, Greengages, Fennel, French Beans, Garlic, Kohlrabi, Loganberries, New Potatoes, Onions, Peas, Potatoes, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swish Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress. August Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Blackcurrants, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Carrots, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Damsons, Fennel, French Beans, Garlic, Greengages, Kohlrabi, Leeks, Lettuce, Loganberries, Mangetout, Marrow, Mushrooms, Parsnips, Peas, Peppers, Potatoes, Plums, Pumpkin, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Watercress, White Cabbage. September Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celery, Courgettes, Chicory, Chillies, Cucumber, Damsons, Garlic, Kale, Kohlrabi, Leeks, Lettuce, Mangetout, Marrow, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Peas, Peppers, Plums, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Radishes, Raspberries, Red Cabbage, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, White Cabbage. October Aubergine, Apples, Beetroot, Blackberries, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Chillies, Courgette, Cucumber, Elderberries, Kale, Leeks, Lettuce, Marrow, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Peas, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Radishes, Red Cabbage, Rocket, Runner Beans, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Summer Squash, Swede, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. November Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Cranberries, Elderberries, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Swede, Swiss Chard, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. December Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Cranberries, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Swede, Swiss Chard, Turnips, Watercress, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. Well at least there's rhubarb to look forward to but not sure how to incorporate it into a salad. Maybe a smoothie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, BlueRiver said: I'd imagine they're a bit more diversified than just turnip and parsnip even then. Have you had a sense of humour by-pass ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, periodictabledancer said: Have you had a sense of humour by-pass ? Sorry, it can be hard to tell on here at times if someone is serious or not. There are people that genuinely seem to think UK food is restricted to items like you posted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 8 hours ago, periodictabledancer said: This country has NO energy security policy - much the same is its food security policy. Or steel manufacturing security, once the coking plant at Scunthorpe closes its doors. Another strategic asset relying on imports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said: And the morons that voted for it are still too daft to understand how thick they are. Keep telling folk how thick they are and they're sure to come round to your way of thinking eventually. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Just now, Dirk McTarkin said: Keep telling folk how thick they are and they're sure to come round to your way of thinking eventually. 👍 It’s the separatist way, tell everyone who disagrees with them how thick they are. Seems like a sound tactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Dirk McTarkin said: Keep telling folk how thick they are and they're sure to come round to your way of thinking eventually. 👍 Only word for them Dirk. These people don’t understand logic or reasoning. They just base their opinions on things they’ve made up in their own head. Thick idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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il Duce McTarkin Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Only word for them Dirk. These people don’t understand logic or reasoning. They just base their opinions on things they’ve made up in their own head. Thick idiots. Nothing to do with an insidious propaganda campaign designed and implemented by technelogical wizardry using unpresedented methods of public and private data analysis, which secreted itself into every corner of their lives via social media, which preyed primarily on fears, invented imaginary grudges, and twisted the truth so far beyond the natural ability of many to make any sense of it. Nothing to do with sowing the seed of discontent within communities which were already deprived, gaslighting them with imaginary bogey-men to disguise the real threat, the real meanace. Nothing to do with foreign influence seeking to weaken the UK and Europe with a covert campaign of infulence through funding of compliant pressure groups and patsy MPs. Nothing to do with a sophisticated disinformation campaign by predatory disaster capitalislts in the hope of realising vast profits from national asset stripping. Nope. People were just thick. We look back at history and wonder how the populations of highly educated countries like Germany could fall for the Nazi propaganda. How a forward-thinking globalist people could embrace a xenophobic expansionist zealot, and the horrors of the final solution. Were they the willing or unwitting victims of the most advanced propaganda and population control program of their time, or were they just thick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 44 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Only word for them Dirk. These people don’t understand logic or reasoning. They just base their opinions on things they’ve made up in their own head. Thick idiots. I'm sure there's a Brexit thread that you can all get angry on or console each other with online group hugs. Maybe you could get a train to London and join Steve Bray outside Westminster with his megaphone and Euro flags, or follow Mick Hucknall on twitter and get all your European friends to post photos of boxes of tomatoes in local supermarkets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: or follow Mick Hucknall on twitter and get all your European friends to post photos of boxes of tomatoes in local supermarkets. I'd like to see photos of Mick Hucknall in a box, tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, Dirk McTarkin said: Nothing to do with an insidious propaganda campaign designed and implemented by technelogical wizardry using unpresedented methods of public and private data analysis, which secreted itself into every corner of their lives via social media, which preyed primarily on fears, invented imaginary grudges, and twisted the truth so far beyond the natural ability of many to make any sense of it. Nothing to do with sowing the seed of discontent within communities which were already deprived, gaslighting them with imaginary bogey-men to disguise the real threat, the real meanace. Nothing to do with foreign influence seeking to weaken the UK and Europe with a covert campaign of infulence through funding of compliant pressure groups and patsy MPs. Nothing to do with a sophisticated disinformation campaign by predatory disaster capitalislts in the hope of realising vast profits from national asset stripping. Nope. People were just thick. We look back at history and wonder how the populations of highly educated countries like Germany could fall for the Nazi propaganda. How a forward-thinking globalist people could embrace a xenophobic expansionist zealot, and the horrors of the final solution. Were they the willing or unwitting victims of the most advanced propaganda and population control program of their time, or were they just thick? There’s definitely dark forces that come into play, I’m not disputing that at all, we’ve seen that in elections oversees too, but when people were listening to the likes of Nigel Farage & Boris, whilst ignoring intellectuals and people within industries saying this is a bad idea, and will be a disaster, then you’re on a hiding to nothing. Doesn’t matter how much well sourced information was thrown at them, they doubled and even tripled down, and now we’re all paying the price for their stupidity, meanwhile they’ll have moved on to the next stupid thing that’s popped up in their head. Zero accountability. Calling these people thick is 100% appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I'm sure there's a Brexit thread that you can all get angry on or console each other with online group hugs. Maybe you could get a train to London and join Steve Bray outside Westminster with his megaphone and Euro flags, or follow Mick Hucknall on twitter and get all your European friends to post photos of boxes of tomatoes in local supermarkets. All of which are better alternatives to living with the shame and embarrassment of once believing Nigel Farage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 16 hours ago, The Hogfather said: “BeXiT DOesN’t cOnTrOL dA WevvER” Mercadona! I’m going there later😎😎😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: There’s definitely dark forces that come into play, I’m not disputing that at all, we’ve seen that in elections oversees too, but when people were listening to the likes of Nigel Farage & Boris, whilst ignoring intellectuals and people within industries saying this is a bad idea, and will be a disaster, then you’re on a hiding to nothing. Doesn’t matter how much well sourced information was thrown at them, they doubled and even tripled down, and now we’re all paying the price for their stupidity, meanwhile they’ll have moved on to the next stupid thing that’s popped up in their head. Zero accountability. Calling these people thick is 100% appropriate. You readily acknowledge that dark forces were (and still are) at play, yet totally disregard the effect that those dark forces may have on large sections of the population. You're making value judgements informed by your own personal circumstances and the infuences that you and your chosen peer group have been subjected to over a sustained period of time, but totally disregard the same set of factors when it comes to others. Some folk don't respond to lecturous intellectuals and the like as they feel patronised, threatened even, some respond well. Some folk don't respond to bombastic populists like Farage and Johnson and see through the veneer of celebrity clad hyperbole, some respond well. It's got very little to do with intellect, and lots to do with environment. This makes the manner in which information is presented to individuals, but more importantly, aggregate groups of individuals, incredibly important. I understand that you are frustrated and angry, and this leads directly to the othering of those who you blame for this mess as somehow lesser than the enlightened righteous. They're just thick. That plays directly into the hands of the dark forces you acknowledge above, as polarisation and conflict is exactly what they're after. Division is their MO, it gets results, and with the self-righteous attitude of moral and intellectual superiority that you're openly parading on here, you're playing right into their hands. Well done. Edited February 23, 2023 by Dirk McTarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 9 hours ago, BlueRiver said: 100%. I made a big dietary shift a few years ago and it's really eye opening how much you can do when you decide to give it a bit more thought and not reach for the same old familiar options. I mean there are greater issues at play behind some of these shortages but some reactions seem a bit OTT to not being able to get hold of a cucumber. Definitely. Was she just going to eat the 100 she stole 😱🤔🤦🏽🤪? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 9 hours ago, periodictabledancer said: Well at least there's rhubarb to look forward to but not sure how to incorporate it into a salad. Maybe a smoothie. Rhubarb 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 We need more dark forces IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: We need more dark forces IMO Orly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Here's a post that's a composite of a Twitter thread on the shambles of current UK-Morocco trade. If you like ferries - and I know there's lots on here who LOVE ferries - you're gonna love this. Enjoy. I really can't ridicule the incompetence of the UK government over post-Brexit trade enough Remember the phantom Seabourne Ferries debacle? Well, the latest example is a tale of utter incompetence, phantom shipping companies and the Great UK Tomato Shortage of 2023 In January 2021, a continuity agreement between UK and Morocco came into force, replicating the EU-Morocco agreement we had just left. This was lauded by UKGov as an example of how post-Brexit Britain would bypass the EU for food security. Soon, newspapers were claiming a 'huge win' for Brexit because a brand new freight ferry service by United Seaways was 'up-&-running' between Tangiers and Poole, providing a weekly service bypassing the need for trucks to drive through Spain & France. Meanwhile, UKGov was bragging about how trade with Morocco had increased dramatically, and that now, 25% of tomatoes consumed in UK originated in Morocco. Only problem - the 'up-&-running' freight ferry service had never commenced. A complete fantasy, with a Gibraltar-based shell company creating a UK Ltd Company, with a promise they never intended to fill. Fast forward to February 2023, and after a sudden cold weather spell across Europe, combined with heavy rains in Spain, EU-based wholesalers turn to less affected sources for early winter harvests of tomatoes. Places like Morocco. This is a UK problem, as our Moroccan tomatoes are not supplied by EU-based wholesalers, but by British importers With no direct freight ferry, UK importers have to manage direct logistics from Morocco to UK retailers, crossing two EU borders en route But there are no such shortages on other European supermarket shelves, as EU-wide supply chains link various N & W African, Turkish and EU farms to EU-trade hubs, where EU-wide packaging takes place It is easier & more profitable for Moroccan farmers to sell produce to EU-wide wholesalers, rather than small, unprofitable UK export options UKGov put us in a position where UK food security is at risk, by creating high-risk dependencies on single non-EU trade partners /end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: Here's a post that's a composite of a Twitter thread on the shambles of current UK-Morocco trade. If you like ferries - and I know there's lots on here who LOVE ferries - you're gonna love this. Enjoy. I really can't ridicule the incompetence of the UK government over post-Brexit trade enough Remember the phantom Seabourne Ferries debacle? Well, the latest example is a tale of utter incompetence, phantom shipping companies and the Great UK Tomato Shortage of 2023 In January 2021, a continuity agreement between UK and Morocco came into force, replicating the EU-Morocco agreement we had just left. This was lauded by UKGov as an example of how post-Brexit Britain would bypass the EU for food security. Soon, newspapers were claiming a 'huge win' for Brexit because a brand new freight ferry service by United Seaways was 'up-&-running' between Tangiers and Poole, providing a weekly service bypassing the need for trucks to drive through Spain & France. Meanwhile, UKGov was bragging about how trade with Morocco had increased dramatically, and that now, 25% of tomatoes consumed in UK originated in Morocco. Only problem - the 'up-&-running' freight ferry service had never commenced. A complete fantasy, with a Gibraltar-based shell company creating a UK Ltd Company, with a promise they never intended to fill. Fast forward to February 2023, and after a sudden cold weather spell across Europe, combined with heavy rains in Spain, EU-based wholesalers turn to less affected sources for early winter harvests of tomatoes. Places like Morocco. This is a UK problem, as our Moroccan tomatoes are not supplied by EU-based wholesalers, but by British importers With no direct freight ferry, UK importers have to manage direct logistics from Morocco to UK retailers, crossing two EU borders en route But there are no such shortages on other European supermarket shelves, as EU-wide supply chains link various N & W African, Turkish and EU farms to EU-trade hubs, where EU-wide packaging takes place It is easier & more profitable for Moroccan farmers to sell produce to EU-wide wholesalers, rather than small, unprofitable UK export options UKGov put us in a position where UK food security is at risk, by creating high-risk dependencies on single non-EU trade partners /end You’re in need of a release buddy, ever considered Turkish brothels ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Dazo said: You’re in need of a release buddy, ever considered Turkish brothels ? Aye aye, stop touting for business Dazo, there's rules on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonfoda Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 11 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Found this about in season fruit & veg Seasonal UK grown produce January Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Celery, Chicory, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Squash, Swedes, Turnips, White Cabbage. February Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Chicory, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Purple Sprouting Broccoli, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Squash, Swedes, White Cabbage. March Artichoke, Beetroot, Carrots, Chicory, Leeks, Parsnip, Purple Sprouting Broccoli, Radishes, Rhubarb, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Watercress. April Artichoke, Beetroot, Carrots, Chicory, New Potatoes, Kale, Morel Mushrooms, Parsnips, Radishes, Rhubarb, Rocket, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Watercress. May Artichoke, Asparagus, Aubergine, Beetroot, Chicory, Chillies, Elderflowers, Lettuce, Marrow, New Potatoes, Peas, Peppers, Radishes, Rhubarb, Rocket, Samphire, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Sweetheart Cabbage, Watercress. June Asparagus, Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackcurrants, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Elderflowers, Gooseberries, Lettuce, Marrow, New Potatoes, Peas, Peppers, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tayberries, Turnips, Watercress. July Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Blackcurrants, Blueberries, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Carrots, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Gooseberries, Greengages, Fennel, French Beans, Garlic, Kohlrabi, Loganberries, New Potatoes, Onions, Peas, Potatoes, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swish Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress. August Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Blackcurrants, Broad Beans, Broccoli, Carrots, Cauliflower, Cherries, Chicory, Chillies, Courgettes, Cucumber, Damsons, Fennel, French Beans, Garlic, Greengages, Kohlrabi, Leeks, Lettuce, Loganberries, Mangetout, Marrow, Mushrooms, Parsnips, Peas, Peppers, Potatoes, Plums, Pumpkin, Radishes, Raspberries, Redcurrants, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Watercress, White Cabbage. September Aubergine, Beetroot, Blackberries, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celery, Courgettes, Chicory, Chillies, Cucumber, Damsons, Garlic, Kale, Kohlrabi, Leeks, Lettuce, Mangetout, Marrow, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Peas, Peppers, Plums, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Radishes, Raspberries, Red Cabbage, Rhubarb, Rocket, Runner Beans, Samphire, Sorrel, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Strawberries, Summer Squash, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, White Cabbage. October Aubergine, Apples, Beetroot, Blackberries, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Chillies, Courgette, Cucumber, Elderberries, Kale, Leeks, Lettuce, Marrow, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Peas, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Radishes, Red Cabbage, Rocket, Runner Beans, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Spinach, Spring Greens, Spring Onions, Summer Squash, Swede, Sweetcorn, Sweetheart Cabbage, Swiss Chard, Tomatoes, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. November Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Butternut Squash, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Cranberries, Elderberries, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Swede, Swiss Chard, Turnips, Watercress, Wild Mushrooms, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. December Apples, Beetroot, Brussels Sprouts, Carrots, Celeriac, Celery, Chestnuts, Chicory, Cranberries, Jerusalem Artichokes, Kale, Leeks, Mushrooms, Onions, Parsnips, Pears, Potatoes, Pumpkin, Quince, Red Cabbage, Salsify, Savoy Cabbage, Swede, Swiss Chard, Turnips, Watercress, Winter Squash, White Cabbage. All very well listing what we "could" grow but issues are a)it's not grown, b) even when it is grown there's no-one wanting to pick it, and c) we've built houses on all the prime farming land... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, cannonfoda said: All very well listing what we "could" grow but issues are a)it's not grown, b) even when it is grown there's no-one wanting to pick it, and c) we've built houses on all the prime farming land... Agree with a and b but c is the biggest load of nonsense ever, Scotland in particular needs more housing and any trip on a motorway shows you how much farm land there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 I've just been in Morrisons and bypassed through the salad isle as usual and there's plenty of produce to be had. Not interested in tomatoes or lettuce when easter eggs are on offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, periodictabledancer said: Here's a post that's a composite of a Twitter thread on the shambles of current UK-Morocco trade. If you like ferries - and I know there's lots on here who LOVE ferries - you're gonna love this. Enjoy. I really can't ridicule the incompetence of the UK government over post-Brexit trade enough Remember the phantom Seabourne Ferries debacle? Well, the latest example is a tale of utter incompetence, phantom shipping companies and the Great UK Tomato Shortage of 2023 In January 2021, a continuity agreement between UK and Morocco came into force, replicating the EU-Morocco agreement we had just left. This was lauded by UKGov as an example of how post-Brexit Britain would bypass the EU for food security. Soon, newspapers were claiming a 'huge win' for Brexit because a brand new freight ferry service by United Seaways was 'up-&-running' between Tangiers and Poole, providing a weekly service bypassing the need for trucks to drive through Spain & France. Meanwhile, UKGov was bragging about how trade with Morocco had increased dramatically, and that now, 25% of tomatoes consumed in UK originated in Morocco. Only problem - the 'up-&-running' freight ferry service had never commenced. A complete fantasy, with a Gibraltar-based shell company creating a UK Ltd Company, with a promise they never intended to fill. Fast forward to February 2023, and after a sudden cold weather spell across Europe, combined with heavy rains in Spain, EU-based wholesalers turn to less affected sources for early winter harvests of tomatoes. Places like Morocco. This is a UK problem, as our Moroccan tomatoes are not supplied by EU-based wholesalers, but by British importers With no direct freight ferry, UK importers have to manage direct logistics from Morocco to UK retailers, crossing two EU borders en route But there are no such shortages on other European supermarket shelves, as EU-wide supply chains link various N & W African, Turkish and EU farms to EU-trade hubs, where EU-wide packaging takes place It is easier & more profitable for Moroccan farmers to sell produce to EU-wide wholesalers, rather than small, unprofitable UK export options UKGov put us in a position where UK food security is at risk, by creating high-risk dependencies on single non-EU trade partners /end They really couldn't organise a ride in a Turking brothel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Smithee said: Aye aye, stop touting for business Dazo, there's rules on here Cost of living crisis Smithee, Turkish brothers exempt from the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Sainsburys: "It's Brexit" Tesco: "It's Brexit" Morrison's: "It's Brexit" Asda: "It's Brexit" Hauliers: "It's Brexit" Shipping companies: "It's Brexit" UK Farmers: "It's Brexit" UK government (and randoms on the internet) "It's not Brexit" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, Cade said: Sainsburys: "It's Brexit" Tesco: "It's Brexit" Morrison's: "It's Brexit" Asda: "It's Brexit" Hauliers: "It's Brexit" Shipping companies: "It's Brexit" UK Farmers: "It's Brexit" UK government (and randoms on the internet) "It's not Brexit" Can you find me sources from those organisations blaming the shortage on Brexit Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Can you find me sources from those organisations blaming the shortage on Brexit Cheers Good luck with that. Cade has history for making things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Can you find me sources from those organisations blaming the shortage on Brexit Cheers Sainbury's : it's on this thread. I quoted it last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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