Ulysses Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, merrymac said: Let’s put it this way if it had been the other way round we would now be playing with 14 sums up what countries like us are up against What are "countries like us"? How do you know if you're from one of these places that get a free pass all the time from refs? How do you know if you're not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 This ref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, merrymac said: Let’s put it this way if it had been the other way round we would now be playing with 14 sums up what countries like us are up against England got done with a red card last night. You’d consider England part of the rugby establishment. The conspiracy theories are horseshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: No, I thought that was a red card. But fact is, 15 v 15 Scotland have tried hard but cannot compete. Not their fault, SA are too strong (while incredibly dull) Yup. Both things can be true. We're second best here, against let's be honest probably the best team on the planet. We've still been utterly shafted by blatant cheating though. Edited September 10, 2023 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Not massive on rugby but like watching Scotland games. It is so refreshing to hear what the referees are saying and basing their decisions on. We really should have this in football too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, Ulysses said: What are "countries like us"? How do you know if you're from one of these places that get a free pass all the time from refs? How do you know if you're not? Simple SA NZ Ireland France used to be England but not so much now look at our games this guy has reffed they ref by world ranking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 some casual racism from the ref there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: England got done with a red card last night. You’d consider England part of the rugby establishment. The conspiracy theories are horseshit Used to be but now they are crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 We just haven’t stretched the game enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Taffin said: Yup. Both things can be true. We're second best here, against let's be honest probably the best team on the planet. We've still been utterly shafted by blatant cheating though. It’s also funny how the best team in the world can be quite tedious to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, merrymac said: Used to be but now they are crap So do the illuminati shift the bias hierarchy depending on fortunes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, merrymac said: Simple SA NZ Ireland France used to be England but not so much now look at our games this guy has reffed they ref by world ranking Why not England any more? And does that mean everyone else is "countries like us"? Wales? Australia? Fiji? Argentina? And so on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatonjambo Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Why has our line out been so appalling bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: So do the illuminati shift the bias hierarchy depending on fortunes? Yep ref by world rankings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: So do the illuminati shift the bias hierarchy depending on fortunes? Indeed. If you're shit, no point in the refs favouring you. Or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, merrymac said: Simple SA NZ Ireland France used to be England but not so much now look at our games this guy has reffed they ref by world ranking They don't even hide it anymore. Obstruction, sealing off and hanging onto ball is all allowed if you play for the countries above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, merrymac said: Yep ref by world rankings oh **** off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, heatonjambo said: Why has our line out been so appalling bad Has been for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, heatonjambo said: Why has our line out been so appalling bad The ref, presumably? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, heatonjambo said: Why has our line out been so appalling bad Been such a handicap today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: oh **** off Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, merrymac said: Yep ref by world rankings Your eating your time debating. They know it's the case, everyone knows it's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 was our guy not taken out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Give him a pass from hand ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said: They don't even hide it anymore. Obstruction, sealing off and hanging onto ball is all allowed if you play for the countries above. In that case, the France-NZ game the night before last must have been an utterly surreal experience for everyone involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, Malinga the Swinga said: Your eating your time debating. They know it's the case, everyone knows it's the case. Cheers mate the articulate ones seem to think abuse is a response probably never been to a match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, Malinga the Swinga said: Your eating your time debating. They know it's the case, everyone knows it's the case. Look, I get that bigger nations might get favourable decisions. Same in football with big clubs. But you’re genuinely saying that England, having been major players for years, now get less favourable decisions because they’ve slipped down the rankings? At least argue in good faith ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Russell has saved 2 tries there. Kept score down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 At least this scummy bunch won't be winning anything. Boring as ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, merrymac said: Cheers mate the articulate ones seem to think abuse is a response probably never been to a match I‘ll ask you again - England have slipped down the rankings suddenly so they’ve got together and said ‘you can give red cards against this lot?’ Listen to yourself. I’m not disputing that big clubs/nations get big calls. But that’s sport the world over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 Everyone knew as soon as Gardner allocated this game how it would go. He hasn't disappointed. Our line out isn't great but no-ones is against SA. Scrum held up reasonably well. Tackling has been good as well as has discipline. Now ref gives penalties to us as game over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, indianajones said: At least this scummy bunch won't be winning anything. Boring as ****. This scummy bunch have every chance of winning the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 weeks till next game. Time to regroup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, indianajones said: At least this scummy bunch won't be winning anything. Boring as ****. And in the last World Cup they played a boring safe game until the final when they played their open game and destroyed England with ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: I‘ll ask you again - England have slipped down the rankings suddenly so they’ve got together and said ‘you can give red cards against this lot?’ Listen to yourself. I’m not disputing that big clubs/nations get big calls. But that’s sport the world over. I just love the idea that when SA play Ireland, or NZ play France, the refereeing is to blame regardless of the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Well that was dull and boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said: This scummy bunch have every chance of winning the whole thing. 1 minute ago, Tazio said: And in the last World Cup they played a boring safe game until the final when they played their open game and destroyed England with ease. Not happening this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: I‘ll ask you again - England have slipped down the rankings suddenly so they’ve got together and said ‘you can give red cards against this lot?’ Listen to yourself. I’m not disputing that big clubs/nations get big calls. But that’s sport the world over. I will reply without resorting to abuse unlike yourself Nothing to do with red cards per se it’s about the referee having a pre determined view of which is the stronger team Scrums are the most obvious England have slipped down the rankings so seen as inferior to the top three /four Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Sunday 24th 4.45pm Tonga Sat 30th 8pm Romania Sat 7th 8pm Ireland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 The top 3 or 4 sides ,France, Ireland, New Zealand and South Africa are just that wee bit stronger and a bit less wasteful . Scotland are not miles behind the top sides .Scotland let themselves down 2nd half . Like with the England v Argentina game the ref is poor but not the deciding factor . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 Hopefully win next 2 games and then let's get stuck into the bottlers of works rugby. Would be great to finish Sextons career with Ireland getting knocked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Cant wait for Scotlands first game when do we start playing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, ToadKiller Dog said: The top 3 or 4 sides ,France, Ireland, New Zealand and South Africa are just that wee bit stronger and a bit less wasteful . Scotland are not miles behind the top sides .Scotland let themselves down 2nd half . Like with the England v Argentina game the ref is poor but not the deciding factor . How 15v 14 might have been different if the refs had done their jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ulysses said: What are "countries like us"? How do you know if you're from one of these places that get a free pass all the time from refs? How do you know if you're not? Did your team lose? If yes then the referee was cheering for the other guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, Sooperstar said: Did your team lose? If yes then the referee was cheering for the other guys. Indeed. Though in rugby's case it seems to be a conspiracy involving all the officials. I wonder who's to blame for Scotland's poor lineouts in SA territory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Decent effort overall vs a really good and powerful team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Right. So where did I put that Fiji shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Ulysses said: Indeed. Though in rugby's case it seems to be a conspiracy involving all the officials. I wonder who's to blame for Scotland's poor lineouts in SA territory? Scotland duh 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Our game management is poor at times. When you play against the strongest scrum on the planet just get it in and out! Our line outs, dearie me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Dave Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Only good thing for Scotland is the Ireland game will hopefully be a non contest for Ireland and they will rest loads of players for Scotland to maybe get a win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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