Tazio Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 He (they?) reopened Spaces a few minutes ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, Tazio said: He (they?) reopened Spaces a few minutes ago. I think the chosen personal pronoun is prosecute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, redjambo said: I think the chosen personal pronoun is prosecute. I didn’t mean pronouns I was meaning “they” as in the company as opposed to the individual, but I also believe they are one and the same until he gets bored with his new plaything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tazio said: He (they?) reopened Spaces a few minutes ago. I'll give it about a day until he closes it again. Unless they have fixed the huge bug in the background. (He=Musk, They=The tech people he employs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tazio said: I didn’t mean pronouns I was meaning “they” as in the company as opposed to the individual, but I also believe they are one and the same until he gets bored with his new plaything. I know. I was just being jocular. Apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, BlueRiver said: I'm very much of the generation where social media is an important thing but considering how small the twitter user base is...is this not a wild amount of coverage? Fair point. Twitter is massive for the media among others so it's a big story in the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 It's certainly some way to announce your return😂😂😂.... Meanwhile actual journalists are banned because he doesn't like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I'm wondering what EU sanctions might look like, can't imagine what they might do. It's not like stick your oil up your back passage Putin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Fair point. Twitter is massive for the media among others so it's a big story in the media. It feels very much that way. I do know twitter has a huge capacity for sharing misinformation but most of the time it's amplified because journalists sit on their arses reporting what's said on Twitter! I despise the platform I really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, JFK-1 said: I'm wondering what EU sanctions might look like, can't imagine what they might do. It's not like stick your oil up your back passage Putin. Fines surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: I'm wondering what EU sanctions might look like, can't imagine what they might do. It's not like stick your oil up your back passage Putin. Any sanctions placed on Mr Musk's business over the account suspensions could be applied under the bloc's new Digital Services Act, which was approved by the EU earlier this year. Under the terms of the proposed new law, the EU Commission will be allowed to impose fines of up to 6% of the global turnover of a firm that it finds breaks its rules. From the BBC article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 26 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: Twitter condemned by UN and EU over reporters’ ban The United Nations has joined the European Union in condemning Twitter's decision to suspend some journalists who cover the social media firm. Reporters for the New York Times, CNN and the Washington Post were among those locked out of their accounts. The UN tweeted that media freedom is "not a toy" while the EU has threatened Twitter with sanctions. FULL ARTICLE: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63996061 I'm not sure the United Nations should be condemning anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, BlueRiver said: Fines surely? Fines to begin with. Then failure to pay fine might lead to more action. I think the US might possibly look at anti competition laws with him labelling every link to Mastadon as malware, it obviously isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Notts1874 said: Fines to begin with. Then failure to pay fine might lead to more action. I think the US might possibly look at anti competition laws with him labelling every link to Mastadon as malware, it obviously isn't. I don't think the EU have much in their arsenal beyond fines regarding the journalism suspensions. Need to see what the DSA looks like when/if it passes. Non-compliance of fine payments surely has to be backed up by something though. The US will probably have a few more weapons to bring to the party at this point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, BlueRiver said: I don't think the EU have much in their arsenal beyond fines regarding the journalism suspensions. Need to see what the DSA looks like when/if it passes. Non-compliance of fine payments surely has to be backed up by something though. The US will probably have a few more weapons to bring to the party at this point in time. The US authorities will probably be happy to let him burn it to the ground himself without really getting involved. Don't worry though he's running a twitter poll to see if he should reinstate the journalists, because that's how adults decide things 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, Notts1874 said: It's certainly some way to announce your return😂😂😂.... Meanwhile actual journalists are banned because he doesn't like them. But Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, escobri said: But Phone playing up 🙈are his pillows any good though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, escobri said: Phone playing up 🙈are his pillows any good though? I'm surprised you haven't already got one 😎😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 The Childish Drama of Elon Musk Yet again, an important part of the public square is controlled by a narcissistic toddler. Musk’s weird rampage does have an impact on the way the world around you exchanges information. Twitter has many levels; for some people, it’s a place to talk about oddball hobbies and exchange pet pictures. (Have you met my cat?) But it’s also an extremely valuable conduit for news, information, culture, and argument. Twitter doesn’t control the news, but it helps to shape public debate about many issues. Indeed, Musk’s entire public rationale for taking over Twitter was to preserve an important venue for free speech. Musk’s defense of free speech is nonsense. One of the world’s richest men—who is not shy about his politics or his contempt for the free press—has reinstated Donald Trump, white supremacists, and any number of dangerous malefactors to Twitter, but he has made it clear that CNN's Donie O’Sullivan is beyond the pale. He has purchased an important and influential piece of the public square not to enhance public debate, but to punish people who annoy him. FULL ARTICLE: https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/12/the-childish-drama-of-elon-musk/672496/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Des Lynam said: I'm not sure the United Nations should be condemning anyone. The UN can go f themselves. As for the EU, Elon did say he would stress test their regulations to see what they would enforce 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, BlueRiver said: Any sanctions placed on Mr Musk's business over the account suspensions could be applied under the bloc's new Digital Services Act, which was approved by the EU earlier this year. Under the terms of the proposed new law, the EU Commission will be allowed to impose fines of up to 6% of the global turnover of a firm that it finds breaks its rules. From the BBC article. Based on turnover of $5billion in 2021, that would be up to $300million. Not to be sniffed at, but it wouldn't really hurt. Pretty mental though, it's a company that brought in $5b last year, never mind their expenses, but it's cost Musk many times that amount, and growing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Led Tasso said: The point is that Alex Jones had his own media company that he owned and used it to spread lies that destroyed people's lives. Musk is starting to amplify and personally retweet things associated with QAn*n, false accusations of paedophilia against queer people, and other nonsense that has driven multiple mass shootings in our country. I've deleted my Twitter accounts and have little interest in going back, but I'm far more worried about him whipping up violent extremists that he's suddenly decided are kind of cool. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/14/qanon-musk-revival-twitter/ If Musk were just writing on his own personal blog, it would be perhaps worrying but no more than other far right or conspiracy publications. Him taking over a platform as prominent as Twitter is far more dangerous though. You're reading way too much into Elon's troll comments. Please quit your pearl clutching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: You're reading way too much into Elon's troll comments. Please quit your pearl clutching. "You went full ****** man. Never go full ******." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 29 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: You're reading way too much into Elon's troll comments. Please quit your pearl clutching. He's not really qanon and isn't really far right? He's just pretending to be to troll people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 31 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: He's not really qanon and isn't really far right? He's just pretending to be to troll people? Do you believe Elon is turning the frogs gay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Just now, dobmisterdobster said: Do you believe Elon is turning the frogs gay? I believe you're talking utter shite I know nothing about. Are you going to answer the question or just make a further arse of yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, dobmisterdobster said: You're reading way too much into Elon's troll comments. Please quit your pearl clutching. Mate I don't know if you've noticed but over here when some jackass puts a bunch of shit online for a few million people to read, a small but significantly armed minority have a bad habit of taking them seriously and going and shooting innocent people over it. 50 miles south of here they went and put out the power for a whole county for a week with their firearms, likely because of some misguided shit about drag shows and pedophilia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 7 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: correct and those not happy with it can piss off Interesting take. Do you think people who own pubs, hotels, B&B's, gyms, rental property and many other privately owned service providers should tell gay folk to piss off, if they don't like it , you know like the folk who didn't want to make them cakes, or allow them to stay for the weekend it marry them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Roger McNamee, a longtime Silicon Valley investor and author of "Zucked: Waking Up to the Facebook Catastrophe," joins MSNBC's Ali Velshi to discuss the controversial decision by Twitter to suspend the accounts of journalists who have been critical of owner Elon Musk, a self-described "free speech absolutist," for what Musk called “doxxing.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 7 hours ago, ri Alban said: Interesting take. Do you think people who own pubs, hotels, B&B's, gyms, rental property and many other privately owned service providers should tell gay folk to piss off, if they don't like it , you know like the folk who didn't want to make them cakes, or allow them to stay for the weekend it marry them? ffs will you put a sock in it and stop going on about my sexuality as if thats all it is that defines me. its getting boring now and also trolling. stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 20 hours ago, dobmisterdobster said: I rest my case. Anyway, was banning them justified? I don't think so. Was it hilariously funny? Absolutely. What a sad, pathetic, little life you must lead. And for that you have my pity. You're welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: ffs will you put a sock in it and stop going on about my sexuality as if thats all it is that defines me. its getting boring now and also trolling. stop it. He's asking a reasonable question based on what you've put out there about yourself 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Smithee said: He's asking a reasonable question based on what you've put out there about yourself 🤷♂️ Would he keep mentioning my colour if I was black ? He can never ask any “ reasonable “ question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 The site is a private site . He can set any rules he wants . Just like most companies can , within laws and rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Would he keep mentioning my colour if I was black ? He can never ask any “ reasonable “ question He's asking because it's relevant, not because it's derogatory, and no one's forcing you to reply. It was you who made a feature of your sexuality, no one else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Smithee said: He's asking because it's relevant, not because it's derogatory, and no one's forcing you to reply. It was you who made a feature of your sexuality, no one else. “ made a feature “ of it ? What a comment . Should I have hidden it . ? Truly pathetic comment . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: “ made a feature “ of it ? What a comment . Should I have hidden it . ? Truly pathetic comment . Is this is the part where I usually wade in uninvited with some homophobic comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Dirk McTarkin said: Is this is the part where I usually wade in uninvited with some homophobic comments? Aye go on then ! Why no . I tend to value your views really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Aye go on then ! Why no . I tend to value your views really :D My views are best ignored, James, as they're not necessarily my views. Ausseh makes some fair points, bud, although a little clumsily. I don't read any real malice in it though. You are who you are and you play to the gallery when it suits you (which is pretty funny a lot of the time), but it's only fair that it can be chucked back at you a wee bit now and then, as long as it doesn't cross the lines. From what I've seen, the mods, and other posters, do a decent job of policing and self policing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: “ made a feature “ of it ? What a comment . Should I have hidden it . ? Truly pathetic comment . Yep, made a feature of it. Like I say, his question's fair enough, I don't think there's much justification for your outrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dirk McTarkin said: :D My views are best ignored, James, as they're not necessarily my views. Ausseh makes some fair points, bud, although a little clumsily. I don't read any real malice in it though. You are who you are and you play to the gallery when it suits you (which is pretty funny a lot of the time), but it's only fair that it can be chucked back at you a wee bit now and then, as long as it doesn't cross the lines. From what I've seen, the mods, and other posters, do a decent job of policing and self policing. Fair enough .👍 heading to pub now after a great Hertz win . Have a good night . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I’m a libertarian . Free speech should never be censored . No Matter however one may disagree . Musk is getting shot of the arseholes who are supposedly for free speech . They aren’t . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Just to clear up the bullshit in the above post. Musk banned journalists who he accused of doxing him. Not one of them did as the information was in the public domain. He also banned a journalist who exposed the working practices at Tesla. He's just a thin skinned narcissist. If you think Musk is the free speech guy in this you must be zipped up the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 44 minutes ago, Notts1874 said: If you think Musk is the free speech guy in this you must be zipped up the back. Like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Dirk McTarkin said: Like this? 😂😂 no yet still in the pub ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I just ignore some posters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Ah bless he doesn't like being challenged 😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 KarenKarenKaren don't take it to heart, ma man. Just questioning some inconsistent views, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: KarenKarenKaren don't take it to heart, ma man. Just questioning some inconsistent views, that's all. KarenKarenKaren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBett365 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: KarenKarenKaren don't take it to heart, ma man. Just questioning some inconsistent views, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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