energy prices

[The Real Maroonblood]

25 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

incredible. 

Johnson is a scumbag.

Edited September 1, 2022 by The Real Maroonblood

[ri Alban]

 

[ri Alban]

Working class heroes still exist. Pity Keir Starmer is useless.

Edited September 1, 2022 by ri Alban

[Cade]

[Dazo]

2 hours ago, jambopilms said:

You do pay for what you use. They estimate at the start of the year what you will pay each month. If you use more than the estimate your DD will go up. I'm guessing he has used more than his estimate so they have over compensated to make up the short fall.

My DD has never gone up. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

27 minutes ago, Cade said:

That sums up the filth.

[Jambo_jim2001]

2 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

It’s hilarious when they try to act like normal people it really is  

What kind of decent kettle can you get for twenty quid🤬

 

[Cade]

1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

That sums up the filth.

 

Worst thing about it is that the two auld codgers will still vote blue.

[The Real Maroonblood]

11 minutes ago, Cade said:

 

Worst thing about it is that the two auld codgers will still vote blue.

Probably.

 

[Mikey1874]

The £10 a year you can save by turning everything off as well.

 

Sorted. 

 

 

[The Mighty Thor]

[fabienleclerq]

5 hours ago, Dazo said:

Ive never paid for what I use as I use it on a fixed tariff. My BBC annual usage is calculated in 12 equal monthly direct debits. Over pay in the summer, under in the winter and it evens itself out over the year. Even if he was paying as  he uses it shouldn’t be shooting up through the summer months. 

 

A fixed tariff means your price per unit is fixed not your DD.

 

 

[The Mighty Thor]

 

 

[Cade]

No matter if you cut down your energy usage to 1% of your current kw/h usage, you still have to pay the standing charge and the standing charge is also going up at the same rate as the kw/h charges.

 

The only solution then is to have your leccy turned off entirely.

[Footballfirst]

10 minutes ago, Cade said:

No matter if you cut down your energy usage to 1% of your current kw/h usage, you still have to pay the standing charge and the standing charge is also going up at the same rate as the kw/h charges.

 

The only solution then is to have your leccy turned off entirely.

The standing charge went up in April in proportion to the unit charge, but the October increase in the standing charge is only around 5% for gas and 2% for electricity compared to 100% for the gas unit charge and 85% for electricity units 

[Don Dan]

[Ray Gin]

Not really worthy of a new thread so I'm just going to drop this here:

 

Man climbs on to pub roof to protest over being charged £3.40 for a pint.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pub-customer-protests-roof-after-pint-up-20p-172745780.html

 

Dread to think what he'd do if he came to Edinburgh and got hit for £6.  

[Don Dan]

[Dazo]

9 hours ago, fabienleclerq said:

 

A fixed tariff means your price per unit is fixed not your DD.

 

 

No shit. 😂

[fabienleclerq]

16 hours ago, Dazo said:

Ive never paid for what I use as I use it on a fixed tariff. My BBC annual usage is calculated in 12 equal monthly direct debits. Over pay in the summer, under in the winter and it evens itself out over the year. Even if he was paying as  he uses it shouldn’t be shooting up through the summer months. 

 

29 minutes ago, Dazo said:

No shit. 😂

 

You wanna tell yourself that sherlock🙄

[Dazo]

12 minutes ago, fabienleclerq said:

 

 

You wanna tell yourself that sherlock🙄

Annual usage x fixed tariff rate ÷ 12 = fixed dd payments. 
 

Do the maths Einstein. 

[fabienleclerq]

13 minutes ago, Dazo said:

Annual usage x fixed tariff rate ÷ 12 = fixed dd payments. 
 

Do the maths Einstein. 

 

"I've never paid for what I used"

 

Einstein indeed. 

 

 

[Dazo]

1 minute ago, fabienleclerq said:

 

"I've never paid for what I used"

 

Einstein indeed. 

 

 

Actual quote, "I've never paid for what I used as I use it”

 

Try again champ. 

[fabienleclerq]

3 minutes ago, Dazo said:

 

 

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Edited September 2, 2022 by fabienleclerq

[Dazo]

Just now, fabienleclerq said:

 

Actual quote " ive never paid for what I use as I use it on a fixed tariff. "

 

Try again champ🤣

 

 

 

Enough circles now I’m bored. 😂

 

For the avoidance of doubt I’m well aware a fixed tariff means your prices are fixed not necessarily your dd. However in my case my dd is fixed as I divide my usage equally over 12 months. My mistake is thinking this straightforward easy monetary budgeting is something all normal people done. Guess not. 😊

[Taffin]

19 hours ago, Dazo said:

Absolutely but I’d have though that was fairly self explanatory to be honest. 

 

I thought until I read about the percentage of people who'll be in fuel poverty. That's being said in a very definitive fashion, despite it being an unknown how much fuel they'll use. I was worried about my last bill based on that sort of stuff...ended up £89 quid. Not great, but not a disaster.

[Japan Jambo]

11 hours ago, Imaman said:

 

Looks like there are quite a few making out like bandits here. Offgen should be doing a better job of explaining what is going on here. Hopefully a journo worthy of the name will start digging.

 

[Victorian]

12 hours ago, Imaman said:

 

They'll just be dismissed as loony leftie,  militant socialist,  remoaner,  doom & gloomster scaremongers.

[Victorian]

12 hours ago, Imaman said:

 

DP

Edited September 2, 2022 by Victorian

[Japan Jambo]

23 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

They'll just be dismissed as loony leftie,  militant socialist,  remoaner,  doom & gloomster scaremongers.

 

Interesting that they are all 'former'

[Victorian]

5 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

Interesting that they are all 'former'

 

It is.  Some of them would not have been able to co-sign such a letter whilst in post.  Sometimes you need independent,  but still highly competent,  people to speak truth to power.

[Japan Jambo]

3 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

It is.  Some of them would not have been able to co-sign such a letter whilst in post.  Sometimes you need independent,  but still highly competent,  people to speak truth to power.

 

my thoughts exactly. Sprinkle on a smidge of vested interest too.

[Victorian]

20 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

my thoughts exactly. Sprinkle on a smidge of vested interest too.

 

Probably true but largely irrelevant.  There's a decent chance that these people will have investment portfolios in the sector.  But the kind of thing they're talking about is absolutely necessary and should be enacted immediately.  It is to the benefit and protection of every citizen of the UK.  Everyone has a vested interest.

[vegas-voss]

18 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Its just a game to them. 

 

Spaffer couldn't give a shiny shite now as he'll be on the £100k a time speaker's circuit. 

And getting his gas and electric paid for.These ***** will all be warm and toasty this winter

[dobmisterdobster]

Lib Dems opposing nuclear just like they opposed new reservoirs. Joke of a party.

[dobmisterdobster]

 

[Victorian]

34 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said:

Lib Dems opposing nuclear just like they opposed new reservoirs. Joke of a party.

 

While Thick Lizzy opposes the much cheaper and cleaner solar.

[FWJ]

I’ve mentioned it before but I think it’s a big mistake of this (Scottish) government to wind-down our nuclear capacity.  Losing base-load generation and  losing the skilled jobs and expertise associated.

[Boab]

48 minutes ago, vegas-voss said:

And getting his gas and electric paid for.These ***** will all be warm and toasty this winter

Not warm enough really !

[Victorian]

Everything should be expanded.  There always has to be a range of generation.

[dobmisterdobster]

5 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

While Thick Lizzy opposes the much cheaper and cleaner solar.

 

Solar can never provide the stability that the Grid needs to function. It works well as a supplementary energy source. I have solar panels.

Edited September 2, 2022 by dobmisterdobster

[Japan Jambo]

1 hour ago, Victorian said:

 

Probably true but largely irrelevant.  There's a decent chance that these people will have investment portfolios in the sector.  But the kind of thing they're talking about is absolutely necessary and should be enacted immediately.  It is to the benefit and protection of every citizen of the UK.  Everyone has a vested interest.

 

apologies, that lacked clarity on my part - I suspect that those who spoke out were largely free to do so by virtue of not having a vested interest/so much to lose. Can't imagine the current chairman of shell (for example) coming out with that.

[XB52]

20 minutes ago, FWJ said:

I’ve mentioned it before but I think it’s a big mistake of this (Scottish) government to wind-down our nuclear capacity.  Losing base-load generation and  losing the skilled jobs and expertise associated.

There will never be another nuclear power station in Scotland, thankfully. Meanwhile the right wing nutters in England are ecstatic about a new nuclear power station being built at an eye watering build cost, not to mention the even more eye watering cost of decommissioning after. And all the time it might be ready in 15 years time if their very good friends the French actually build it. 

[FWJ]

8 minutes ago, XB52 said:

There will never be another nuclear power station in Scotland, thankfully. Meanwhile the right wing nutters in England are ecstatic about a new nuclear power station being built at an eye watering build cost, not to mention the even more eye watering cost of decommissioning after. And all the time it might be ready in 15 years time if their very good friends the French actually build it. 

There are quite a few people on the left (and, grudgingly, the greens) who support the expansion of nuclear power.

There should be a ‘portfolio’ of different forms of generation IMO.

[XB52]

4 minutes ago, FWJ said:

There are quite a few people on the left (and, grudgingly, the greens) who support the expansion of nuclear power.

There should be a ‘portfolio’ of different forms of generation IMO.

Agree on different forms but never nuclear. We have wind, wave, hydro and solar in Scotland which is more than enough to power our country going forward. Backed up by oil and gas until battery storage is more advanced 

[Victorian]

28 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

apologies, that lacked clarity on my part - I suspect that those who spoke out were largely free to do so by virtue of not having a vested interest/so much to lose. Can't imagine the current chairman of shell (for example) coming out with that.

 

Agreed.

[FWJ]

12 minutes ago, XB52 said:

Agree on different forms but never nuclear. We have wind, wave, hydro and solar in Scotland which is more than enough to power our country going forward. Backed up by oil and gas until battery storage is more advanced 

Hydro is, and (unless you want to flood every glen in the country and dam every river) always will be a small contributor.  The problem with solar is - hours of daylight.  Not many in the long nights of winter when we need it most.

Wind? Yes, can make a major contribution (indeed, already is) but what if we get a big high-pressure system setting over the country in January?

Tidal? Isn’t really happening yet, not sure why.  Maybe the concerns over its effect on coastal ecosystems? Dunno.

Wave?  Again, doesn’t seem to be happening, at least not any time soon.

Pump storage?  Yes, useful and necessary, but again, how many glens will we need to flood?

[Japan Jambo]

18 minutes ago, FWJ said:

Hydro is, and (unless you want to flood every glen in the country and dam every river) always will be a small contributor.  The problem with solar is - hours of daylight.  Not many in the long nights of winter when we need it most.

Wind? Yes, can make a major contribution (indeed, already is) but what if we get a big high-pressure system setting over the country in January?

Tidal? Isn’t really happening yet, not sure why.  Maybe the concerns over its effect on coastal ecosystems? Dunno.

Wave?  Again, doesn’t seem to be happening, at least not any time soon.

Pump storage?  Yes, useful and necessary, but again, how many glens will we need to flood?

 

I wish they'd given that Cardiff By project the thumbs up, appreciate it was pricey but would have brought jobs and allowed the UK to be early movers in that space.

[Unknown user]

In case you forget

 

[frankblack]

1 hour ago, FWJ said:

Hydro is, and (unless you want to flood every glen in the country and dam every river) always will be a small contributor.  The problem with solar is - hours of daylight.  Not many in the long nights of winter when we need it most.

Wind? Yes, can make a major contribution (indeed, already is) but what if we get a big high-pressure system setting over the country in January?

Tidal? Isn’t really happening yet, not sure why.  Maybe the concerns over its effect on coastal ecosystems? Dunno.

Wave?  Again, doesn’t seem to be happening, at least not any time soon.

Pump storage?  Yes, useful and necessary, but again, how many glens will we need to flood?

 

Could we start with flooding Leith and Lochend for the benefit of the city? 🤔