The Real Maroonblood Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Cruyff said: incredible. Johnson is a scumbag. Edited September 1, 2022 by The Real Maroonblood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) Working class heroes still exist. Pity Keir Starmer is useless. Edited September 1, 2022 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 hours ago, jambopilms said: You do pay for what you use. They estimate at the start of the year what you will pay each month. If you use more than the estimate your DD will go up. I'm guessing he has used more than his estimate so they have over compensated to make up the short fall. My DD has never gone up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, Cade said: That sums up the filth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 hours ago, jack D and coke said: It’s hilarious when they try to act like normal people it really is What kind of decent kettle can you get for twenty quid🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said: That sums up the filth. Worst thing about it is that the two auld codgers will still vote blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, Cade said: Worst thing about it is that the two auld codgers will still vote blue. Probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 The £10 a year you can save by turning everything off as well. Sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Dazo said: Ive never paid for what I use as I use it on a fixed tariff. My BBC annual usage is calculated in 12 equal monthly direct debits. Over pay in the summer, under in the winter and it evens itself out over the year. Even if he was paying as he uses it shouldn’t be shooting up through the summer months. A fixed tariff means your price per unit is fixed not your DD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 No matter if you cut down your energy usage to 1% of your current kw/h usage, you still have to pay the standing charge and the standing charge is also going up at the same rate as the kw/h charges. The only solution then is to have your leccy turned off entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Cade said: No matter if you cut down your energy usage to 1% of your current kw/h usage, you still have to pay the standing charge and the standing charge is also going up at the same rate as the kw/h charges. The only solution then is to have your leccy turned off entirely. The standing charge went up in April in proportion to the unit charge, but the October increase in the standing charge is only around 5% for gas and 2% for electricity compared to 100% for the gas unit charge and 85% for electricity units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Not really worthy of a new thread so I'm just going to drop this here: Man climbs on to pub roof to protest over being charged £3.40 for a pint. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pub-customer-protests-roof-after-pint-up-20p-172745780.html Dread to think what he'd do if he came to Edinburgh and got hit for £6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 9 hours ago, fabienleclerq said: A fixed tariff means your price per unit is fixed not your DD. No shit. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 16 hours ago, Dazo said: Ive never paid for what I use as I use it on a fixed tariff. My BBC annual usage is calculated in 12 equal monthly direct debits. Over pay in the summer, under in the winter and it evens itself out over the year. Even if he was paying as he uses it shouldn’t be shooting up through the summer months. 29 minutes ago, Dazo said: No shit. 😂 You wanna tell yourself that sherlock🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, fabienleclerq said: You wanna tell yourself that sherlock🙄 Annual usage x fixed tariff rate ÷ 12 = fixed dd payments. Do the maths Einstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, Dazo said: Annual usage x fixed tariff rate ÷ 12 = fixed dd payments. Do the maths Einstein. "I've never paid for what I used" Einstein indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 minute ago, fabienleclerq said: "I've never paid for what I used" Einstein indeed. Actual quote, "I've never paid for what I used as I use it” Try again champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dazo said: . Edited September 2, 2022 by fabienleclerq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Just now, fabienleclerq said: Actual quote " ive never paid for what I use as I use it on a fixed tariff. " Try again champ🤣 Enough circles now I’m bored. 😂 For the avoidance of doubt I’m well aware a fixed tariff means your prices are fixed not necessarily your dd. However in my case my dd is fixed as I divide my usage equally over 12 months. My mistake is thinking this straightforward easy monetary budgeting is something all normal people done. Guess not. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 19 hours ago, Dazo said: Absolutely but I’d have though that was fairly self explanatory to be honest. I thought until I read about the percentage of people who'll be in fuel poverty. That's being said in a very definitive fashion, despite it being an unknown how much fuel they'll use. I was worried about my last bill based on that sort of stuff...ended up £89 quid. Not great, but not a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 11 hours ago, Imaman said: Looks like there are quite a few making out like bandits here. Offgen should be doing a better job of explaining what is going on here. Hopefully a journo worthy of the name will start digging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Imaman said: They'll just be dismissed as loony leftie, militant socialist, remoaner, doom & gloomster scaremongers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Imaman said: DP Edited September 2, 2022 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, Victorian said: They'll just be dismissed as loony leftie, militant socialist, remoaner, doom & gloomster scaremongers. Interesting that they are all 'former' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: Interesting that they are all 'former' It is. Some of them would not have been able to co-sign such a letter whilst in post. Sometimes you need independent, but still highly competent, people to speak truth to power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Victorian said: It is. Some of them would not have been able to co-sign such a letter whilst in post. Sometimes you need independent, but still highly competent, people to speak truth to power. my thoughts exactly. Sprinkle on a smidge of vested interest too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: my thoughts exactly. Sprinkle on a smidge of vested interest too. Probably true but largely irrelevant. There's a decent chance that these people will have investment portfolios in the sector. But the kind of thing they're talking about is absolutely necessary and should be enacted immediately. It is to the benefit and protection of every citizen of the UK. Everyone has a vested interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 18 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Its just a game to them. Spaffer couldn't give a shiny shite now as he'll be on the £100k a time speaker's circuit. And getting his gas and electric paid for.These ***** will all be warm and toasty this winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Lib Dems opposing nuclear just like they opposed new reservoirs. Joke of a party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Victorian Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: Lib Dems opposing nuclear just like they opposed new reservoirs. Joke of a party. While Thick Lizzy opposes the much cheaper and cleaner solar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I’ve mentioned it before but I think it’s a big mistake of this (Scottish) government to wind-down our nuclear capacity. Losing base-load generation and losing the skilled jobs and expertise associated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 48 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: And getting his gas and electric paid for.These ***** will all be warm and toasty this winter Not warm enough really ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Everything should be expanded. There always has to be a range of generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Victorian said: While Thick Lizzy opposes the much cheaper and cleaner solar. Solar can never provide the stability that the Grid needs to function. It works well as a supplementary energy source. I have solar panels. Edited September 2, 2022 by dobmisterdobster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Victorian said: Probably true but largely irrelevant. There's a decent chance that these people will have investment portfolios in the sector. But the kind of thing they're talking about is absolutely necessary and should be enacted immediately. It is to the benefit and protection of every citizen of the UK. Everyone has a vested interest. apologies, that lacked clarity on my part - I suspect that those who spoke out were largely free to do so by virtue of not having a vested interest/so much to lose. Can't imagine the current chairman of shell (for example) coming out with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, FWJ said: I’ve mentioned it before but I think it’s a big mistake of this (Scottish) government to wind-down our nuclear capacity. Losing base-load generation and losing the skilled jobs and expertise associated. There will never be another nuclear power station in Scotland, thankfully. Meanwhile the right wing nutters in England are ecstatic about a new nuclear power station being built at an eye watering build cost, not to mention the even more eye watering cost of decommissioning after. And all the time it might be ready in 15 years time if their very good friends the French actually build it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, XB52 said: There will never be another nuclear power station in Scotland, thankfully. Meanwhile the right wing nutters in England are ecstatic about a new nuclear power station being built at an eye watering build cost, not to mention the even more eye watering cost of decommissioning after. And all the time it might be ready in 15 years time if their very good friends the French actually build it. There are quite a few people on the left (and, grudgingly, the greens) who support the expansion of nuclear power. There should be a ‘portfolio’ of different forms of generation IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, FWJ said: There are quite a few people on the left (and, grudgingly, the greens) who support the expansion of nuclear power. There should be a ‘portfolio’ of different forms of generation IMO. Agree on different forms but never nuclear. We have wind, wave, hydro and solar in Scotland which is more than enough to power our country going forward. Backed up by oil and gas until battery storage is more advanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: apologies, that lacked clarity on my part - I suspect that those who spoke out were largely free to do so by virtue of not having a vested interest/so much to lose. Can't imagine the current chairman of shell (for example) coming out with that. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, XB52 said: Agree on different forms but never nuclear. We have wind, wave, hydro and solar in Scotland which is more than enough to power our country going forward. Backed up by oil and gas until battery storage is more advanced Hydro is, and (unless you want to flood every glen in the country and dam every river) always will be a small contributor. The problem with solar is - hours of daylight. Not many in the long nights of winter when we need it most. Wind? Yes, can make a major contribution (indeed, already is) but what if we get a big high-pressure system setting over the country in January? Tidal? Isn’t really happening yet, not sure why. Maybe the concerns over its effect on coastal ecosystems? Dunno. Wave? Again, doesn’t seem to be happening, at least not any time soon. Pump storage? Yes, useful and necessary, but again, how many glens will we need to flood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, FWJ said: Hydro is, and (unless you want to flood every glen in the country and dam every river) always will be a small contributor. The problem with solar is - hours of daylight. Not many in the long nights of winter when we need it most. Wind? Yes, can make a major contribution (indeed, already is) but what if we get a big high-pressure system setting over the country in January? Tidal? Isn’t really happening yet, not sure why. Maybe the concerns over its effect on coastal ecosystems? Dunno. Wave? Again, doesn’t seem to be happening, at least not any time soon. Pump storage? Yes, useful and necessary, but again, how many glens will we need to flood? I wish they'd given that Cardiff By project the thumbs up, appreciate it was pricey but would have brought jobs and allowed the UK to be early movers in that space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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frankblack Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, FWJ said: Hydro is, and (unless you want to flood every glen in the country and dam every river) always will be a small contributor. The problem with solar is - hours of daylight. Not many in the long nights of winter when we need it most. Wind? Yes, can make a major contribution (indeed, already is) but what if we get a big high-pressure system setting over the country in January? Tidal? Isn’t really happening yet, not sure why. Maybe the concerns over its effect on coastal ecosystems? Dunno. Wave? Again, doesn’t seem to be happening, at least not any time soon. Pump storage? Yes, useful and necessary, but again, how many glens will we need to flood? Could we start with flooding Leith and Lochend for the benefit of the city? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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