Finlay James Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 9 hours ago, PhoenixHearts said: This. I have a hard enough time with baldy da's telling people to cut their hair at the best of times (freedom to express yourself and all that) but when it's a (presumably) white guy telling a black guy to cut his natural afro hair, it really makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to play the R card but people saying things like that are rooted in prejudice and bigotry and I'm surprised the poster who originally said it didn't get pulled up more about it. Similar thing happened when there was a bunch of rednecks in Arizona saying that the Cardinals QB Kyler Murray's hair (a natural afro) looked "unprofessional" or worse "homeless". i think people are rightly getting wise to the fact that not everything said about anyone from a BAME background is racist. If a black guy tells a white guy to cut his hair, it wouldn’t be taken as racist, more a comment on his hair so the same should apply vice versa. Like I said, we’re starting to become more educated and evolved so just need to ignore the culture of everything being taken as racist. Quote
BigStein Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rudi cant fail said: I’m a little concerned that the majority of our signings are loans. Unless there is agreements in place to make them permanent. Robbie says at every transfer window that he doesn’t want to make wholesale changes and wants to come out of each window stronger than before we went in. If we continue to have several players on loan then we are always going to be making wholesale changes. Here is a list of signings since Joe savage came in. kastineer = Loan - useless GMS = permanent - more bad games than good Gnando = permanent - useless and gone within a year mceneff = permanent - useful addition, not set the heather alight but may get better with a good run in the team. shay Logan = loan - done a job and was never going to be long term Ross Stewart = permanent - squad player, not good enough to be our number 2 but I get it’s hard to get decent keepers to be happy with being number 2 josh ginelley = permanent - squad player. His pace can be useful, personally I don’t think he’s good enough. beni = permanent - brilliant, an excellent find and can’t speak highly enough of him devlin = permanent - I like him, he’s tenacious and covers a lot of ground. He can be a bit of a headless chicken though and needs to be more confident when it comes to shooting. woodburn = loan - full of promise but yet to show it on a regular basis moore = loan - not had enough game time to fully assess. Think he might lack aggression required for a centre half cochrane = loan - good player. Easy to forget he’s so young. Not good enough for premiership so we may have a chance to make him permanent. Barrie McKay = permanent - great player, very intelligent. Creates a lot of chances which is why he’s been brought in Natty Aka = permanent - early days but looks a good find. simms = loan - too early to judge. Looked decent last night. Kingsley, smith, Gordon and halkett have also all agreed new deals which is good news. We gambled not offering souttar a deal sooner which I can understand but it has ultimately backfired. i agree that recruitment is now night and day from when levein was here and it’s early days with savage. I still feel that we could be doing a little better though. Other than beni I don’t think any of the signings we have made are that unrealistic for the third biggest team in Scotland to be making. I know we seem to be targeting a higher calibre if player, but based on the loan signings it could suggest that we are missing out on these targets and could be chasing lost causes. again this could just be the start of the savage revolution and we may start to see more quality long term signings I think there are a few benefits to the loan system, we had Ginnelly and Kastaneer on loan last season and decided we wanted to sign Ginnelly and let Kastaneer go home in the summer. It's good to have that flexibility imo Currently we have these players with no strings attached come the summer: Moore Cochrane Woodburn Simms Of those four, Woodburn and Cochrane are out of contract and it will be up to us if we want to keep them or not. Moore has a year left at Bristol but they should be pretty easy to deal with if we fancy keeping him too. Simms on the other hand is a player rated highly at Everton who they'll want to keep, he's already mentioned being excited at the prospect of european football next season though which suggests that we could have him beyond the summer if all goes well. Quote
jamboinglasgow Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 after the excitement of the last day and a half, its all gone dark again in the way of transfers. Hopefully we hear something very soon. Quote
I.T.K Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 17 hours ago, William H. Bonney said: Still cant believe Simms was signed about 5pm and was playing at 8:45pm. Quote
fast_blood Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 53 minutes ago, Rudi cant fail said: I’m a little concerned that the majority of our signings are loans. Unless there is agreements in place to make them permanent. Robbie says at every transfer window that he doesn’t want to make wholesale changes and wants to come out of each window stronger than before we went in. If we continue to have several players on loan then we are always going to be making wholesale changes. Here is a list of signings since Joe savage came in. kastineer = Loan - useless GMS = permanent - more bad games than good Gnando = permanent - useless and gone within a year mceneff = permanent - useful addition, not set the heather alight but may get better with a good run in the team. shay Logan = loan - done a job and was never going to be long term Ross Stewart = permanent - squad player, not good enough to be our number 2 but I get it’s hard to get decent keepers to be happy with being number 2 josh ginelley = permanent - squad player. His pace can be useful, personally I don’t think he’s good enough. beni = permanent - brilliant, an excellent find and can’t speak highly enough of him devlin = permanent - I like him, he’s tenacious and covers a lot of ground. He can be a bit of a headless chicken though and needs to be more confident when it comes to shooting. woodburn = loan - full of promise but yet to show it on a regular basis moore = loan - not had enough game time to fully assess. Think he might lack aggression required for a centre half cochrane = loan - good player. Easy to forget he’s so young. Not good enough for premiership so we may have a chance to make him permanent. Barrie McKay = permanent - great player, very intelligent. Creates a lot of chances which is why he’s been brought in Natty Aka = permanent - early days but looks a good find. simms = loan - too early to judge. Looked decent last night. Kingsley, smith, Gordon and halkett have also all agreed new deals which is good news. We gambled not offering souttar a deal sooner which I can understand but it has ultimately backfired. i agree that recruitment is now night and day from when levein was here and it’s early days with savage. I still feel that we could be doing a little better though. Other than beni I don’t think any of the signings we have made are that unrealistic for the third biggest team in Scotland to be making. I know we seem to be targeting a higher calibre if player, but based on the loan signings it could suggest that we are missing out on these targets and could be chasing lost causes. again this could just be the start of the savage revolution and we may start to see more quality long term signings 9 permanent out of 15 doesn't make the majority of our signings loans. Quote
davemclaren Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, fast_blood said: 9 permanent out of 15 doesn't make the majority of our signings loans. Pedant. 🤣 Quote
Rudi cant fail Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, fast_blood said: 9 permanent out of 15 doesn't make the majority of our signings loans. Maybe not, but there are a lot of what would have been seen as key signings since the summer that are loans. Which will most likely need replaced in the summer Quote
davemclaren Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, Rudi cant fail said: Maybe not, but there are a lot of what would have been seen as key signings since the summer that are loans. Which will most likely need replaced in the summer I think it’s more than maybe not.😄 I take your point anyway but loans are a good way to fill a space when the player type you want isn’t available. Quote
Rudi cant fail Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 51 minutes ago, BigAlim said: I think there are a few benefits to the loan system, we had Ginnelly and Kastaneer on loan last season and decided we wanted to sign Ginnelly and let Kastaneer go home in the summer. It's good to have that flexibility imo Currently we have these players with no strings attached come the summer: Moore Cochrane Woodburn Simms Of those four, Woodburn and Cochrane are out of contract and it will be up to us if we want to keep them or not. Moore has a year left at Bristol but they should be pretty easy to deal with if we fancy keeping him too. Simms on the other hand is a player rated highly at Everton who they'll want to keep, he's already mentioned being excited at the prospect of european football next season though which suggests that we could have him beyond the summer if all goes well. I agree too, definitely benefits. I just don’t see any the players that are on loan at the moment being greatly missed if they don’t sign new deals which will mean they will need to be replaced. Unless they have really strong second half’s of the season. When we hear how much effort goes into trying to sign one player, it’s a lot of work to try and bring in 4. Quote
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 Cochrane could become a permanent. In this day and age some loan signings last longer than "permanent" signings. Not my preference, its modern football though and you need to exploit the conditions you work in to best effect. Currently we do. Sitting third and in good shape to keep the growth going. Nitpicking, fussy ballox to be honest, be happy. Quote
Jeff Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 Loan signings are almost a 'try before you buy' option these days Quote
fast_blood Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Pedant. 🤣 Guilty as charged Quote
McNelly15 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 Moore getting recalled? Just read this! Halkett out with Smith, Souttar probably away in a couple days time. Looking very very light at the back. Massive games coming up that can change the season Quote
RENE Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, McNelly15 said: Moore getting recalled? Just read this! Halkett out with Smith, Souttar probably away in a couple days time. Looking very very light at the back. Massive games coming up that can change the season Where? Quote
Rogue Daddy Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: That could see us lose Walker, Ginelley, GMS & Woodburn in the space of 6 months. Clearly, our standards are rising. What a time to be a jambo! Quote
fast_blood Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, RENE said: Where? A recall into the team I believe. Quote
McNelly15 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, RENE said: Where? Bristol city Quote
McNelly15 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, fast_blood said: A recall into the team I believe. Bristol city Quote
fast_blood Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, McNelly15 said: Bristol city Where have you seen this? Banderson saying he's getting recalled in our starting 11 due to injuries. Quote
McNelly15 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, fast_blood said: A recall into the team I believe. Aye your correct. Read it wrong quickly on a break ! Quote
McNelly15 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, fast_blood said: Where have you seen this? Banderson saying he's getting recalled in our starting 11 due to injuries. Read it wrong quickly on a break 😅 Quote
Newton51 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 Taylor Moore will train at Riccarton on Thursday with a view to being involved against Motherwell on Saturday. “I expect Taylor back. He is training tomorrow so if Halks is struggling then he can come in,” added Neilson. Quote
McNelly15 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Taylor Moore will train at Riccarton on Thursday with a view to being involved against Motherwell on Saturday. “I expect Taylor back. He is training tomorrow so if Halks is struggling then he can come in,” added Neilson. 👍🏽 Quote
Chillidigits Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Rick Sanchez said: To be honest even if Halkett can make it back quickly he needs a rest. He's obviously not getting over whatever is bothering him. Any news on what is actually bothering him ? Wasn't obvious last night. Quote
Jeff Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, Chillidigits said: Any news on what is actually bothering him ? Wasn't obvious last night. Looked like his hamstring yesterday. Not sure if it was just tight or went. Quote
Rogue Daddy Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Steak said: Looked like his hamstring yesterday. Not sure if it was just tight or went. From where I sit (Section T)...he looked a bit upset. Kinda got the feeling he thinks he's out for a while. Hope I'm wrong and my eyesight was failing me! Quote
GavK1012 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, McNelly15 said: Aye your correct. Read it wrong quickly on a break ! 🤯🧐 Quote
Voice of reason Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said: From where I sit (Section T)...he looked a bit upset. Kinda got the feeling he thinks he's out for a while. Hope I'm wrong and my eyesight was failing me! I was watching on Sky and Halkett’s reaction close-up was that of someone who knew or at least thought he was going to be out for quite a while. Looked a bit upset for sure. Didn’t look good. Edited January 27, 2022 by Voice of reason Quote
stevie1874 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 3 hours ago, GinRummy said: Just make the move for Findlay. Knows the league, is a centre back rather than a right back or left back playing as a centre back and not doing well in the states. Such an obvious move. Get it done Hearts. Watched Findlay on that podcast with Halliday etc and he said even though he’s not playing much he’s loving it in the states and can’t see him coming back soon. He’s also on a fair wedge out there. Quote
stevie1874 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 12 hours ago, ericb said: Thought GMS did well tonight Agreed, he looked like he wanted to get involved and had a bit of fight about him. His problem is consistency as he is mostly anonymous when he gets a start. If memory serves me I think he was a sub at Parkhead and came on and had a good game also, although he did trip himself up while clean through on goal. 😂 Quote
GinRummy Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: Watched Findlay on that podcast with Halliday etc and he said even though he’s not playing much he’s loving it in the states and can’t see him coming back soon. He’s also on a fair wedge out there. Never know until you try I suppose. He has a year left on his deal and the fact he’s not playing would suggest he isn’t getting another one. Another year of sitting on the bench and he’ll be lucky to get a club of our size interested in him. Tbh, we are probably not interested in him and given the guys we have brought in we could maybe do better than him. Though under the current circumstances he looks a good option to me. Quote
bazman Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, Steak said: Looked like his hamstring yesterday. Not sure if it was just tight or went. He's been carrying an ankle knock for a while and has been struggling with it. That's why he came off against st Johnstone aswell Quote
bazman Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, bazman said: He's been carrying an ankle knock for a while and has been struggling with it. That's why he came off against st Johnstone aswell However on just reading Robbie's comments he says it's tight hammy so ignore me Quote
Sertse Posted January 27, 2022 Author Posted January 27, 2022 2 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said: after the excitement of the last day and a half, its all gone dark again in the way of transfers. Hopefully we hear something very soon. If the resident ITKers are correct we should be seeing Ogashiwa very soon Quote
jamboinglasgow Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, Sertse said: If the resident ITKers are correct we should be seeing Ogashiwa very soon Hope so, though I am sceptical, as Scott Burns in daily record (who is normally spot on) seemed to say we have failed in getting players from Japan and South Korea. Quote
Agentjambo Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, Sertse said: If the resident ITKers are correct we should be seeing Ogashiwa very soon Who said that?? Quote
Sertse Posted January 27, 2022 Author Posted January 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Who said that?? Your best mate said it @Bongo 1874 Quote
BackOfTheNet Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 I know I should’ve be impatient as we signed someone less than 24 hours ago. But it’s today, tomorrow and Monday for transfer business. (Unless they do a Boyce/Simms and announce just before the game on Saturday, which I doubt. I’m not so much worried about signing, we just are running out of time and lack of reports / rumours means we’re looking at squeaky bum time come deadline day. Quote
Newton51 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 Is the deadline Monday or Tuesday? 2 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: I know I should’ve be impatient as we signed someone less than 24 hours ago. But it’s today, tomorrow and Monday for transfer business. (Unless they do a Boyce/Simms and announce just before the game on Saturday, which I doubt. I’m not so much worried about signing, we just are running out of time and lack of reports / rumours means we’re looking at squeaky bum time come deadline day. Quote
GinRummy Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, BackOfTheNet said: I know I should’ve be impatient as we signed someone less than 24 hours ago. But it’s today, tomorrow and Monday for transfer business. (Unless they do a Boyce/Simms and announce just before the game on Saturday, which I doubt. I’m not so much worried about signing, we just are running out of time and lack of reports / rumours means we’re looking at squeaky bum time come deadline day. Surely the not on a match day theory has been thoroughly debunked after yesterdays fantastic transfer manoeuvres? Quote
jamboinglasgow Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Surely the not on a match day theory has been thoroughly debunked after yesterdays fantastic transfer manoeuvres? yup, and there is nothing stopping us making a signing at the weekend either. Quote
john thomas Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 53 minutes ago, bazman said: However on just reading Robbie's comments he says it's tight hammy so ignore me Yet was holding his leg just above the knee ? Quote
Roman1874 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 We need a Hartley/Cameron type player ASAP. Only CAM we currently have is McEneff. Reckon Hartley would come out of retirement? Quote
PapaShango Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Roman1874 said: We need a Hartley/Cameron type player ASAP. Only CAM we currently have is McEneff. Reckon Hartley would come out of retirement? We probably need some cover at the back as well with injuries. Halkett will be a huge loss for us, Moore just isn't as aggressive or good in the air. I reckon Simms will do well and he played well last night when he came on, considering he probably didn't know half his team mates names. The boy from Swansea would be good. Quote
Zaba Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, Roman1874 said: We need a Hartley/Cameron type player ASAP. Only CAM we currently have is McEneff. Reckon Hartley would come out of retirement? He’s fat as **** these days but I’d still fancy him to bury a couple at the shitehole next Tuesday. Quote
bazman Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, john thomas said: Yet was holding his leg just above the knee ? Your hamstring runs from the back of knee/top of calf up to hip Quote
BackOfTheNet Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 37 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Is the deadline Monday or Tuesday? 11pm or midnight Monday 37 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Surely the not on a match day theory has been thoroughly debunked after yesterdays fantastic transfer manoeuvres? I wouldn’t say debunked. Different rules come into play by the end of the window. Teams tend to use the match day to showcase the club, signings happen the following days. I’ve never said they don’t happen, just that they rarely do. So I’m not expecting lightning to strike twice in one window (although I’d love it to). Quote
Jamboscanbevicius Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 I don’t expect too much in the next few days. Might depend on the prognosis for Smith and Halkett. CH could be key and expect we have a few irons in the fire… Branthwaite on loan Findlay on loan to buy Souttar away (but only if we sign CH) Will be interesting to see what happens with Souttar if he stays. We will play him, and if he gets an injury will the zombies still sign him? Quote
BackOfTheNet Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: yup, and there is nothing stopping us making a signing at the weekend either. Technically there’s nothing to stop any team from buying players 7 days a week, especially in January. But window after window they seem to be Monday through Friday bar a few exceptions. I’m sure there’s a multitude of reasons for this, but it is the way it is. Quote
wavydavy Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, PapaShango said: We probably need some cover at the back as well with injuries. Halkett will be a huge loss for us, Moore just isn't as aggressive or good in the air. I reckon Simms will do well and he played well last night when he came on, considering he probably didn't know half his team mates names. The boy from Swansea would be good. Taylor Moore is also currently carrying a thigh injury. If we rush him back because Smith and Halkett are out then we risk aggrevating his injury and then we are in big trouble. We may end up having to play Souttar, Haring and Kingsley as our back three. Cochrane could step in if required but I am still not convinced about him. Thank goodness Beni is back hopefully no worse for his return ;ast night. He makes such a difference to our midfield. Quote
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