Pasquale for King Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, stuart500 said: We need a striker who WILL make a difference, not one who MIGHT make a difference. Hendo is still to me in the "might" category. Not ideal but still an improvement on someone with "no chance" of making a difference like (unfortunately) Gnando. ☹️. The challenge for Joe and Co. is to make meaningful their months of player analysis and get a genuine improvement in up front. Which is difficult at the best of times, in January it’s even harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Wallace Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 18 hours ago, Cruyff said: My biggest fear is that Gordon would be an ideal 2nd choice keeper for a big club looking for solid reliable backup. A one year deal and 50k a week to sit on the bench at Chelsea or something and maybe win another trophy, might be too good to turn down at this stage of his career. Craig aint going to Chelsea on £50k a week That just aint happening at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Drew Wallace said: Craig aint going to Chelsea on £50k a week That just aint happening at all Nobody said it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Wallace Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Must have read the post wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, stuart500 said: We need a striker who WILL make a difference, not one who MIGHT make a difference. Hendo is still to me in the "might" category. Not ideal but still an improvement on someone with "no chance" of making a difference like (unfortunately) Gnando. ☹️. The challenge for Joe and Co. is to make meaningful their months of player analysis and get a genuine improvement in up front. He's a good backup if we don't get any strikers in or just one instead of 2. Gnanduillet needs punted as a matter of urgency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/joe-savage-details-hearts-transfer-22447716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Cruyff said: Money talks though and tbf, who's going to start ahead of him? Big Jon for one if he dislodges McGregor by this time next year - fair chance as McGregor will be nearly 41 by that time. Clark if he is still playing as well is a second option. Marshall will move in January so he could be a first team regular again somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, soonbe110 said: Big Jon for one if he dislodges McGregor by this time next year - fair chance as McGregor will be nearly 41 by that time. Clark if he is still playing as well is a second option. Marshall will move in January so he could be a first team regular again somewhere. Can't see it. None of them are near Gordon's standard. Clarke knows he made a mistake with Marshall at the Euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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soonbe110 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Can't see it. None of them are near Gordon's standard. Clarke knows he made a mistake with Marshall at the Euros. Gordon’s standards will drop immediately if he isn’t playing first team football every week esp at his age. Fortunately Craig realises that so expect him to be with us until he retires as a player then move into coaching role. Only issue is length of contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Chillidigits said: I'd like to see him get a chance in second half of season . Can't see him being any worse than Gnando as an option from the bench. Of course I would love it if someone better than both of them was recruited. I think this is too big a season to be handing a chance to Henderson. We need two new strikers and Gnando can sit next to me for the remainder of his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: Gordon’s standards will drop immediately if he isn’t playing first team football every week esp at his age. Fortunately Craig realises that so expect him to be with us until he retires as a player then move into coaching role. Only issue is length of contract. I hope so. But if a big club chucks like £60k/£70 at him for a one year contract then he's off. Caps, loyalty-it won't matter, he'd Litterally be making 10 years money at Hearts in 1 year. I don't think that will happen tho, surley bigger clubs would want a younger keeper as back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Swanny17 said: I’m curious here. Was this Interview part of something bigger? As it seems an odd bit of video to come out today when in reality he doesn’t say much at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I wonder if Jon Rankin will be looking to get a couple of young players on loan he worked with from us in Jan, Would be a good level for some of the younger boys Finlay Pollock maybe to go play some games ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Reaper Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 23 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: I hope so. But if a big club chucks like £60k/£70 at him for a one year contract then he's off. Caps, loyalty-it won't matter, he'd Litterally be making 10 years money at Hearts in 1 year. I don't think that will happen tho, surley bigger clubs would want a younger keeper as back up. Insightful stuff Tosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/georgie-kelly-tells-bohemians-leaving-25688502.amp Georgie Kelly informed Bohemians and Derry City over the weekend that he won’t be staying in the League of Ireland next season. And Sligo Rovers’ rising star Johnny Kenny is also a flight risk amid mounting interest in the talented teenager from the English Premier League and Scottish top flight. But Kelly - the Premier Division’s top scorer and recently crowned PFA Ireland ‘Player of the Year’ - is definitely pursuing offers elsewhere. His decision to play abroad in 2022 is not a surprise, but he has confirmed his departure with the Gypsies so that his old club can plan without him for 2022. The Candystripes have also been notified as they were sweet on the free agent who smashed 26 goals in all competitions this season. Rotherham, Bradford City, Dundee and Ross County are among a lengthy list of English and Scottish clubs chasing the Donegal man. But Kelly also has interesting offers from further afield and won’t make his final decision until early in the New Year once his exams have finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 54 minutes ago, Sertse said: https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/georgie-kelly-tells-bohemians-leaving-25688502.amp Georgie Kelly informed Bohemians and Derry City over the weekend that he won’t be staying in the League of Ireland next season. And Sligo Rovers’ rising star Johnny Kenny is also a flight risk amid mounting interest in the talented teenager from the English Premier League and Scottish top flight. But Kelly - the Premier Division’s top scorer and recently crowned PFA Ireland ‘Player of the Year’ - is definitely pursuing offers elsewhere. His decision to play abroad in 2022 is not a surprise, but he has confirmed his departure with the Gypsies so that his old club can plan without him for 2022. The Candystripes have also been notified as they were sweet on the free agent who smashed 26 goals in all competitions this season. Rotherham, Bradford City, Dundee and Ross County are among a lengthy list of English and Scottish clubs chasing the Donegal man. But Kelly also has interesting offers from further afield and won’t make his final decision until early in the New Year once his exams have finished. Hearts interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 9 hours ago, davemclaren said: Hearts interested? Hibs are according to the EEN (in Kenny). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 10 hours ago, Sertse said: https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/georgie-kelly-tells-bohemians-leaving-25688502.amp Georgie Kelly informed Bohemians and Derry City over the weekend that he won’t be staying in the League of Ireland next season. And Sligo Rovers’ rising star Johnny Kenny is also a flight risk amid mounting interest in the talented teenager from the English Premier League and Scottish top flight. But Kelly - the Premier Division’s top scorer and recently crowned PFA Ireland ‘Player of the Year’ - is definitely pursuing offers elsewhere. His decision to play abroad in 2022 is not a surprise, but he has confirmed his departure with the Gypsies so that his old club can plan without him for 2022. The Candystripes have also been notified as they were sweet on the free agent who smashed 26 goals in all competitions this season. Rotherham, Bradford City, Dundee and Ross County are among a lengthy list of English and Scottish clubs chasing the Donegal man. But Kelly also has interesting offers from further afield and won’t make his final decision until early in the New Year once his exams have finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 10 hours ago, davemclaren said: Hearts interested? Probably scores too many goals for us to be interested 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 35 minutes ago, Sertse said: Who is signing him? They have no Sporting Director or Manager.If this was us it would billed as a disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Probably scores too many goals for us to be interested 😂 That’ll be the reason. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Probably scores too many goals for us to be interested 😂 Good one. Lol. cos we don't score goals lol. us? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Good one. Lol. cos we don't score goals lol. us? lol We tend to sign players (apart from Boyce) who don’t know how to score goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: We tend to sign players (apart from Boyce) who don’t know how to score goals That's because all the good strikers refuse to wear masks. It's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 The way Joe was talking on that interview was interesting…he said that other clubs won’t want to sell their players mid-season,which sounds to me like we are planning to pay cash and not entering the free agent market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Probably scores too many goals for us to be interested 😂 Aye, that's why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: The way Joe was talking on that interview was interesting…he said that other clubs won’t want to sell their players mid-season,which sounds to me like we are planning to pay cash and not entering the free agent market Or we are looking at free agents and loans because clubs won't sell, unless for a daft fee. 🤷♂️ Edited December 15, 2021 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said: Aye, that's why. We tend to sign players who don’t know how to score goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Or we are looking at free agents and loans because clubs won't sell, unless fur a daft fee. 🤷♂️ Time will tell… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: We tend to sign players who don’t know how to score goals Who do you mean, Craig Gordon ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: We tend to sign players who don’t know how to score goals Is that why we are 3rd top goal scorers in the top division of Scottish football. Robbie must be a magic man of considerable talent to deliver that with players that don't tend to score goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: The way Joe was talking on that interview was interesting…he said that other clubs won’t want to sell their players mid-season,which sounds to me like we are planning to pay cash and not entering the free agent market Yeah I'm sure if there was any free agents kicking about we would of picked them up between transfer windows like we have done in the past around Robbie first spell. I reckon we will be out to spend money maybe cut prices with players contracts ending in the summer maybe. For example Tony Watt out of contract in the summer he will be leaving probably valued at 100k if we go and offer them 30K for him now Motherwell would accept if not then pre contract signed he will join for free in the summer and these smaller clubs loose out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: We tend to sign players who don’t know how to score goals Don't know how to score goals or find it difficult to score goals in Scottish footballs top flight. Come on mate, you'll need to do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Leveins Battalion said: Who is signing him? They have no Sporting Director or Manager.If this was us it would billed as a disgrace. They probably have a similar signing style to septic where the board picks players and the manager is expected to play them, I don't think they actually get much say in signings. Septic signed players with no manager for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: Is that why we are 3rd top goal scorers in the top division of Scottish football. Robbie must be a magic man of considerable talent to deliver that with players that don't tend to score goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Sertse said: He must be keen given he's flown over just to have that picture taken at ER... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: Is that why we are 3rd top goal scorers in the top division of Scottish football. Robbie must be a magic man of considerable talent to deliver that with players that don't tend to score goals. Apart from Boyce, who else is a reliable goal scorer in our squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgaro Gomis Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Colour me shocked that a certain poster is all over another thread having a go at Hearts/trying to get a reaction out of Hearts fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Apart from Boyce, who else is a reliable goal scorer in our squad? I've not done a comparison of all players and positions to gain any context. I've also not got the details on a players overall contribution one that scores. Unless he's scoring all his goals from the half way line or from our own goal kicks he'll need a team to help him score. We clearly have goal scorers tho and players that contribute to a good team or we wouldn't be third so your joke was shite. Edited December 15, 2021 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Stu_HMFC said: Yeah I'm sure if there was any free agents kicking about we would of picked them up between transfer windows like we have done in the past around Robbie first spell. I reckon we will be out to spend money maybe cut prices with players contracts ending in the summer maybe. For example Tony Watt out of contract in the summer he will be leaving probably valued at 100k if we go and offer them 30K for him now Motherwell would accept if not then pre contract signed he will join for free in the summer and these smaller clubs loose out. Watt has had an incredible season but can he replicate that next season? I would like a younger, hungry player rather than risk T W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Watt has had an incredible season but can he replicate that next season? I would like a younger, hungry player rather than risk T W. I was using him as an example knowing he is out of contract, I would imagine Hearts would be in the market for players at cut prices knowing they were in the last 6 months of their contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambraejambo Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Apart from Boyce, who else is a reliable goal scorer in our squad? What about Kingsley. I just get to home games and Livi and Hibs away but from the games I've seen he has taken about 8/9 free kicks and scored 3 and hit the bar on another (this season) that's a better return on free kicks than C Ronaldo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Just over 2 weeks to the window then. All the questions still out there right now. Do we sign anyone? If so, do we only sign if players depart? If we sign, do we think we’ll look to do business early? Or due to the winter break do we expect business to happen later in the window as staff/players won’t be in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Just over 2 weeks to the window then. All the questions still out there right now. Do we sign anyone? If so, do we only sign if players depart? If we sign, do we think we’ll look to do business early? Or due to the winter break do we expect business to happen later in the window as staff/players won’t be in? It's a question (or a series of questions) for Mr Neilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Just over 2 weeks to the window then. All the questions still out there right now. Do we sign anyone? If so, do we only sign if players depart? If we sign, do we think we’ll look to do business early? Or due to the winter break do we expect business to happen later in the window as staff/players won’t be in? I'm sure I saw something stating Savage wants to strengthen the squad in Jan. Time will tell I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: It's a question (or a series of questions) for Mr Neilson Or Mr Savage? There is a thread for discussion though, so thought I’d ask what others think. 9 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said: I'm sure I saw something stating Savage wants to strengthen the squad in Jan. Time will tell I guess. He gave an interview to Sky Sports saying they’re looking and describing the process, said it was really difficult in January. But really didn’t say much at all. That’s why I think all scenarios, from doing nothing to a fair bit of business are all possible. Will be curious to see how things are come February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Or Mr Savage? There is a thread for discussion though, so thought I’d ask what others think. He gave an interview to Sky Sports saying they’re looking and describing the process, said it was really difficult in January. But really didn’t say much at all. That’s why I think all scenarios, from doing nothing to a fair bit of business are all possible. Will be curious to see how things are come February. Ah yes "Mr Savage" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 45 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Just over 2 weeks to the window then. All the questions still out there right now. Do we sign anyone? If so, do we only sign if players depart? If we sign, do we think we’ll look to do business early? Or due to the winter break do we expect business to happen later in the window as staff/players won’t be in? We desperately need a striker but if the right one isn't available or asking for silly money we shouldn't just make do. Any player we sign has to be better than what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cruyff said: We desperately need a striker but if the right one isn't available or asking for silly money we shouldn't just make do. Any player we sign has to be better than what we have. Thats one position I can see us filling one way or another, even if it’s a loan. I don’t think they’ll rely on Henderson coming back from loan. (Might play against Talbot) I can see them only getting a RWB if the deal is right and making do until summer if not though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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