JudyJudyJudy Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Taffin said: I'll take a stab at it: 1. People aren't very interested in what's happening in Australia 2. Australia has been held up as some kind of gold standard in dealing with Covid by the media when actually it's been a disaster and to highlight that highlights the media got it wrong too 3. The BBC is generally quite soft in their reporting of things and tend to avoid the more graphic nature of events in their reporting I sense it's a lot of one, a bit of 2 and a bit more of 3. But mainly 1, people don't really care what's happening in Australia. I’d say it’s more point 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, JoeBugner2 said: Decent points . Not sure I agree with point 1 though. In general, yes, if this was hum drum Australian politics or something nobody is interested. However, as we are on the way to vaccine passports too then lots should be interested. Also I reckon if this was Chinese, Russian, North Korean governments etc shooting and beating the public it would be all over the news... Points 2 and 3 I agree with though . Although I still think one bigger reason for the censorship .... but keen to hear other views.... But the BBCs main audience isn't on the way to vaccine passports...they're merely being held in 'reserve'. What's the bigger reason you think it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBugner2 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, Taffin said: What's the bigger reason you think it is? The UK government dont want anyone to question the vaccine passports. They don’t want anyone thinking we can fight back against this. They don’t want anyone copying these protests. The Australian government are even censoring the coverage in Australia itself, to stop the backlash spreading. The majority of the people in UK are currently sleepwalking into this, as demonstrated on this very forum... folk more worried about queues at the turnstiles than the threat of what this Passport system could become. There are no health reasons for introducing this system - if there are then they have never been evidenced or presented scientifically. The wee wicked witch herself admits that the main reason for the passports is to coerce people into taking the vaccines ... which is borderline illegal and is certainly morally and ethically disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, JoeBugner2 said: The UK government dont want anyone to question the vaccine passports. They don’t want anyone thinking we can fight back against this. They don’t want anyone copying these protests. The Australian government are even censoring the coverage in Australia itself, to stop the backlash spreading. The majority of the people in UK are currently sleepwalking into this, as demonstrated on this very forum... folk more worried about queues at the turnstiles than the threat of what this Passport system could become. There are no health reasons for introducing this system - if there are then they have never been evidenced or presented scientifically. The wee wicked witch herself admits that the main reason for the passports is to coerce people into taking the vaccines ... which is borderline illegal and is certainly morally and ethically disgusting. But the UK government currently isn't introducing them 🤷🏻♂️ I know they've held them as an option and if they were imminent like in Scotland, I'd maybe be inclined to agree with you, but they aren't. I can't see the UK government introducing them unless they feel it's absolutely necessary either for health reasons or to make it look like they're doing something. The UK Tory party are not typically a party that supports this kind of infringement on civil liberties. So they're censoring Australian riots to prevent people in the UK doing the same despite the situation in Australia being not even remotely reflective of the reality the overwhelming majority of the UK are living under? I reckon the UK government would be more than happy to see unrest in Scotland with public pushback against SNP policies. I'd argue actually, it would in their interests to show more of the rioting on the BBC. Edited September 24, 2021 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBugner2 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Taffin said: But the UK government currently isn't introducing them 🤷🏻♂️ I know they've held them as an option and if they were imminent like in Scotland, I'd maybe be inclined to agree with you, but they aren't. I can't see the UK government introducing them unless they feel it's absolutely necessary either for health reasons or to make it look like they're doing something. The UK Tory party are not typically a party that supports this kind of infringement on civil liberties. So they're censoring Australian riots to prevent people in the UK doing the same despite the situation in Australia being not even remotely reflective of the reality the overwhelming majority of the UK are living under? I reckon the UK government would be more than happy to see unrest in Scotland with public pushback against SNP policies. I'd argue actually, it would in their interests to show more of the rioting on the BBC. Well they are being introduced into Scotland and Wales. I personally think they will try in England later in Autumn/Winter but I hope I am wrong. Im really hoping the Australian situation will make them think twice about it now though. This is one of the reasons it is so important that people are aware what is going on over there, and indeed the other countries across the globe that are fighting back. Something to point out re the censorship of Australia - practically none of the footage I have seen has been from the australian media. Nearly all is from independnet phones etc. Without the general public filming where would we be? How long before Twitter try and censor those videos also? It seems the police there are now targetting folk filming on phones. All of this just feels like, as a society, we are going backwards.... Signing off for the weekend... hope the Jambos win in what could be my last ever match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, JoeBugner2 said: Signing off for the weekend... hope the Jambos win in what could be my last ever match Same here. No vaccinations for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Arthur Morgan said: Same here. No vaccinations for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 3 hours ago, JoeBugner2 said: The UK government dont want anyone to question the vaccine passports. They don’t want anyone thinking we can fight back against this. They don’t want anyone copying these protests. The Australian government are even censoring the coverage in Australia itself, to stop the backlash spreading. The majority of the people in UK are currently sleepwalking into this, as demonstrated on this very forum... folk more worried about queues at the turnstiles than the threat of what this Passport system could become. There are no health reasons for introducing this system - if there are then they have never been evidenced or presented scientifically. The wee wicked witch herself admits that the main reason for the passports is to coerce people into taking the vaccines ... which is borderline illegal and is certainly morally and ethically disgusting. Good post ! 47 minutes ago, JoeBugner2 said: Well they are being introduced into Scotland and Wales. I personally think they will try in England later in Autumn/Winter but I hope I am wrong. Im really hoping the Australian situation will make them think twice about it now though. This is one of the reasons it is so important that people are aware what is going on over there, and indeed the other countries across the globe that are fighting back. Something to point out re the censorship of Australia - practically none of the footage I have seen has been from the australian media. Nearly all is from independnet phones etc. Without the general public filming where would we be? How long before Twitter try and censor those videos also? It seems the police there are now targetting folk filming on phones. All of this just feels like, as a society, we are going backwards.... Signing off for the weekend... hope the Jambos win in what could be my last ever match Have a good weekend . Hopefully it won’t be your last home Hearts . It’s shameful that some fans are almost euphoric about other fans not being allowed into the stadia to watch the mighty HMFC . Sad times really . I’ll be at the match tomorrow cheering them on anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewiseone Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 21 hours ago, Beni said: You only thought to spend 2 minutes googling Pfizer after rolling up you sleeve? (twice) Do you think their vaccine is safe? Not safe but further more not required, I'm one of those mad anti vaxxers though so I'm going to say that.🤔😜😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBugner2 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Taffin said: But the UK government currently isn't introducing them 🤷🏻♂️ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/uk-brink-joining-eu-passport-scheme-sources-confirm-nhs-system/ "This is not for the short term. Governments are getting used to it." Looking ominous... Boil Boil, Ribbit Ribbit 🐸 Edited September 24, 2021 by JoeBugner2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 All this fuss over a couple of pricks . I'm talking about Covid jags and not the anti vaxers who have spammed this thread. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Can I just say I’ve enjoyed the exchanges between Taffin anf Joebugner2 . They have informative and respectful of each other’s views . It Makes a change on this forum . as you were ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 There was some guy on Facebook complaining that “ hardly “ anyone was wearing masks on the Concorse at Tynie on match days . He was livid and said they all should be barred . We are at the match today so be interested to see mask wearing percentages . Not that I give a flying deck regarding this . I’ll wear it on Concorse ( as it is a relatively crowded area at certain times bit again not at all worried ) though as i better not sashay about there 😂😂😂. but certainly no when seated . Looking forward to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 24/09/2021 at 18:57, JoeBugner2 said: oh Come on. There is a country at near civil war over Vaccine Certificates and you dont think that is relevant to this thread?! If we support this here we could easily be in the same situation soon or, even worse, nobody will fight it and we will end up like Lithuania or even China. I'm trying to work out what you mean by the bit in bold. It looks like you're suggesting Australia is on the brink of civil war, over vaccine certificates. Is that what you're saying? I was out and about in Sydney today, maybe not as many people having picnics as there were on Sunday last week, but then it is a bit chilly today. In the main people here know the lockdown has been a pain in the arse, they know the reason we were slow out the blocks on the vaccination front is Scott Morrison's ineptitude as a prime minister...but they also know we are very close to beginning to get back to normal, not having lost thousands upon thousands of people to covid. It doesn't feel like were about to take up arms any time soon to be honest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, A Boy Named Crow said: I'm trying to work out what you mean by the bit in bold. It looks like you're suggesting Australia is on the brink of civil war, over vaccine certificates. Is that what you're saying? I was out and about in Sydney today, maybe not as many people having picnics as there were on Sunday last week, but then it is a bit chilly today. In the main people here know the lockdown has been a pain in the arse, they know the reason we were slow out the blocks on the vaccination front is Scott Morrison's ineptitude as a prime minister...but they also know we are very close to beginning to get back to normal, not having lost thousands upon thousands of people to covid. It doesn't feel like were about to take up arms any time soon to be honest! Oh come on, what do you know? OK you live there but JB has read it on a flat earther website so I'm afraid he Trumps you😊😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, XB52 said: Oh come on, what do you know? OK you live there but JB has read it on a flat earther website so I'm afraid he Trumps you😊😊 Ha, fair enough. I'll get working on my survivalist shelter in the morning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, A Boy Named Crow said: I'm trying to work out what you mean by the bit in bold. It looks like you're suggesting Australia is on the brink of civil war, over vaccine certificates. Is that what you're saying? I was out and about in Sydney today, maybe not as many people having picnics as there were on Sunday last week, but then it is a bit chilly today. In the main people here know the lockdown has been a pain in the arse, they know the reason we were slow out the blocks on the vaccination front is Scott Morrison's ineptitude as a prime minister...but they also know we are very close to beginning to get back to normal, not having lost thousands upon thousands of people to covid. It doesn't feel like were about to take up arms any time soon to be honest! I lived in Perth for 15 years and as you know east and west is chalk and cheese. It is not the vaccine slowness or SM being an idiot, he was one long before Covid. It appears it is the vaccine tactics being used that is upsetting folk. In construction all folk to have a jab or no job. Is that across Australia or State by State? I know if NSW did something WA would do the opposite just because it could😀. In WA all Health workers must have jab but we as a consultancy company who work remotely for WA Health have been told all our staff must have them and we as an employer need to show proof. Surely that is bollocks given we are not onsite? Edited September 25, 2021 by joondalupjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, joondalupjambo said: I lived in Perth for 15 years and as you know east and west is chalk and cheese. It is not the vaccine slowness or SM being an idiot, he was one long before Covid. It appears it is the vaccine tactics being used that is upsetting folk. In construction all folk to have a jab or no job. Is that across Australia or State by State? I know if NSW did something WA would do the opposite just because it could😀. In WA all Health workers must have jab but we as a consultancy company who work remotely for WA Health have been told all our staff must have them and we as an employer need to show proof. Surely that is bollocks given we are not onsite? WA's an interesting one. McGowan has made himself a bit of a laughing stock. He closes the border all the time because the infrastructure there isn't set up to deal with any kind of outbreak...but then he spat the dummy when Qantas pointed out they might have to can the direct Perth - London flight because nobody from outside WA would ever take the risk of booking it when the chances are they'd not be able to take the flight because he closed the border. Like you said though, it's always been like this between WA and the rest of Australia. None of this is really relevant to whether or not vaccine passports should be required for Tynecastle...I just got a bit derailed by the talk of impending civil war 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars plastic Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 2 hours ago, JamesM48 said: There was some guy on Facebook complaining that “ hardly “ anyone was wearing masks on the Concorse at Tynie on match days . He was livid and said they all should be barred . We are at the match today so be interested to see mask wearing percentages . Not that I give a flying deck regarding this . I’ll wear it on Concorse ( as it is a relatively crowded area at certain times bit again not at all worried ) though as i better not sashay about there 😂😂😂. but certainly no when seated . Looking forward to it Folk still wearing masks. Lol, just lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Mars plastic said: Folk still wearing masks. Lol, just lol. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mars plastic said: Folk still wearing masks. Lol, just lol. Well pleasantly surprised at Tynie today when there was hardly anyone wearing masks in the main Concorse or in fact most areas . it does look like they have a cond vaccine chief in the making though . A young lad was escorted out the stadium for hiding the ball when it went into the stands . The security arse threw him out with vigour when it was really just a harmless high jinks really . Pretty pathetic . The security guard probably will be rigorously enforcing the vaccines passports next week I bet . There was a real round of boos from the crowd about it though with various expletives shouted at the guard 😂 Edited September 25, 2021 by JamesM48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmfc1965 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Well pleasantly surprised at Tynie today when there was hardly anyone wearing masks in the main Concorse or in fact most areas . it does look like they have a cond vaccine chief in the making though . A young lad was escorted out the stadium for hiding the ball when it went into the stands . The security arse threw him out with vigour when it was really just a harmless high jinks really . Pretty pathetic . The security guard probably will be rigorously enforcing the vaccines passports next week I bet . There was a real round of boos from the crowd about it though with various expletives shouted at the guard 😂 If you weren't bothered one way or the other why were you pleasantly surprised by the lack of masks in the concourse? If someone chooses to wear one I can't see it makes a blind bit of difference to anyone else, even the nuttiest conspiracy theorist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hmfc1965 said: If you weren't bothered one way or the other why were you pleasantly surprised by the lack of masks in the concourse? If someone chooses to wear one I can't see it makes a blind bit of difference to anyone else, even the nuttiest conspiracy theorist. I was pleasantly surprised as most people seek to be making a sensible risk assessment and not just wearing a mask cause it’s mandated . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmfc1965 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 minute ago, JamesM48 said: I was pleasantly surprised as most people seek to be making a sensible risk assessment and not just wearing a mask cause it’s mandated . I'm not sure they are but fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 If Hearts keep playing like that and have a chance at the title you can jag me every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, escobri said: If Hearts keep playing like that and have a chance at the title you can jag me every day It was superb match today . A wee dip in the second half but mainly great quality . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars plastic Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: I was pleasantly surprised as most people seek to be making a sensible risk assessment and not just wearing a mask cause it’s mandated . Most people have now realised that they’ve been had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mars plastic said: Most people have now realised that they’ve been had. Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Mars plastic said: Most people have now realised that they’ve been had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars plastic Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Absolute nick of this wee incel who can only post in emojis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Mars plastic said: Absolute nick of this wee incel who can only post in emojis. I love the pish you post as it gives me a good laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said: I love the pish you post as it gives me a good laugh. He does have a point. It must be a huge percentage of your posts are **** all but emojis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Just now, been here before said: He does have a point. It must be a huge percentage of your posts are **** all but emojis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, been here before said: He does have a point. It must be a huge percentage of your posts are **** all but emojis. In fairness a large percentage of your posts are you being a dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Never saw that coming, nothing if not predictable. Do the 😄 or the ones next - they seem to be the go to ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: In fairness a large percentage of your posts are you being a dick. 6 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Might as well do it for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 minute ago, been here before said: Might as well do it for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 53 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: In fairness a large percentage of your posts are you being a dick. That’s true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewiseone Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 13 hours ago, Mars plastic said: Most people have now realised that they’ve been had. Not sure if most realise it, some really aren't that bright I mean some on here still arguing in support of the nonsense. Maroonblood obviously does but his form of communication is one of denial and deflection. The 89% or whatever it is have all been played and will continue to be so with their boosters, it's time to get their heads out the sand. It's a bit like the Budge /Levein situation. Once she realised the pish with which he was indoctrinating everyone with , got rid of him and started to manifest what is actually possible, much the same as the followers and Boris, or wee Nicky,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7618694/coronavirus-scotland-jason-leitch-record-numbers/ I think there should be more scrutiny and accountability when statements like the above are made and then turn out to be wildly inaccurate. Jason Leitch was predicting there could be as many as 14,000 cases per day in early September but the government's own figures show that the highest number reached was around 7,500. That's obviously great they didn't reach 14,000 but it's quite a margin of error for someone who's playing a major role in the government's strategy. I appreciate it's not easy but we've seen hugely inaccurate and misleading modeling from a number of people involved in the response in the past 18 months and I think more journalists should be highlighting this when it has such an impact on people's lives and mental health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, Captain Canada said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7618694/coronavirus-scotland-jason-leitch-record-numbers/ I think there should be more scrutiny and accountability when statements like the above are made and then turn out to be wildly inaccurate. Jason Leitch was predicting there could be as many as 14,000 cases per day in early September but the government's own figures show that the highest number reached was around 7,500. That's obviously great they didn't reach 14,000 but it's quite a margin of error for someone who's playing a major role in the government's strategy. I appreciate it's not easy but we've seen hugely inaccurate and misleading modeling from a number of people involved in the response in the past 18 months and I think more journalists should be highlighting this when it has such an impact on people's lives and mental health. Jason Leitch was on a ego trip. Hopefully we don’t have to hear much more from him. Sadly journalism has died in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewiseone Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 All the mainstream media have been under the same spell. It's a bit like football they all fall under the Celtic/ Rangers narratives with very little thought or coverage given elsewhere. It's been the same scenario with the nonsense. Why? Usually find a trail of £££ behind their actions. Sooner those that have been played realise it, ditch the boosters and start living in the real world away from the computer generated nonsense the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 15 hours ago, Hmfc1965 said: If you weren't bothered one way or the other why were you pleasantly surprised by the lack of masks in the concourse? If someone chooses to wear one I can't see it makes a blind bit of difference to anyone else, even the nuttiest conspiracy theorist. Yeh he’s just a twit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewiseone Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 15 hours ago, Hmfc1965 said: If you weren't bothered one way or the other why were you pleasantly surprised by the lack of masks in the concourse? If someone chooses to wear one I can't see it makes a blind bit of difference to anyone else, even the nuttiest conspiracy theorist. The mask has been the " visual representation of something to fear" It's subliminal messaging to other people, therefore carrying on the narrative. I mean the nonsense around masks and mask wearing when and where to wear them, and people have bought it, you couldn't make it up! Even our own government who make the rules don't follow them, what more evidence are people needing. It's all been bull! Hand sanitiser, masks, social distancing. Done non of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars plastic Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 41 minutes ago, thewiseone said: The mask has been the " visual representation of something to fear" It's subliminal messaging to other people, therefore carrying on the narrative. I mean the nonsense around masks and mask wearing when and where to wear them, and people have bought it, you couldn't make it up! Even our own government who make the rules don't follow them, what more evidence are people needing. It's all been bull! Hand sanitiser, masks, social distancing. Done non of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Captain Canada said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7618694/coronavirus-scotland-jason-leitch-record-numbers/ I think there should be more scrutiny and accountability when statements like the above are made and then turn out to be wildly inaccurate. Jason Leitch was predicting there could be as many as 14,000 cases per day in early September but the government's own figures show that the highest number reached was around 7,500. That's obviously great they didn't reach 14,000 but it's quite a margin of error for someone who's playing a major role in the government's strategy. I appreciate it's not easy but we've seen hugely inaccurate and misleading modeling from a number of people involved in the response in the past 18 months and I think more journalists should be highlighting this when it has such an impact on people's lives and mental health. Check the graph out at Travelling Tabby. His words were "We are at 6,800 so we’ll be at nearly 14,000 a week from now unless we’ve reached a peak or are heading for a peak that isn’t quite visible to us." Fortunately, the curve shallowed shortly afterwards and we reached a peak not long after that. But when he spoke, the gradient of the increase, which had been fairly constant for a while, indicated that we were heading in the region where he said we were. If anything, the main thing it shows is that the SG's modelling didn't contain enough factors and good information to make decent estimates of where the curve was going, and that's worrying. It showed that the SG had/has as much idea as any of us as to the future case trajectory. That's not good enough, imo. Leitch's concern and statement was legitimate at the time given the data though. Edited September 26, 2021 by redjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars plastic Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Captain Canada said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7618694/coronavirus-scotland-jason-leitch-record-numbers/ I think there should be more scrutiny and accountability when statements like the above are made and then turn out to be wildly inaccurate. Jason Leitch was predicting there could be as many as 14,000 cases per day in early September but the government's own figures show that the highest number reached was around 7,500. That's obviously great they didn't reach 14,000 but it's quite a margin of error for someone who's playing a major role in the government's strategy. I appreciate it's not easy but we've seen hugely inaccurate and misleading modeling from a number of people involved in the response in the past 18 months and I think more journalists should be highlighting this when it has such an impact on people's lives and mental health. The same Jason Leitch who was shouting from the rooftops that masks make no difference whatsoever before having to fall into line like that other snp mouthpiece, Sridhar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 39 minutes ago, Mars plastic said: The same Jason Leitch who was shouting from the rooftops that masks make no difference whatsoever before having to fall into line like that other snp mouthpiece, Sridhar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Captain Canada said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7618694/coronavirus-scotland-jason-leitch-record-numbers/ I think there should be more scrutiny and accountability when statements like the above are made and then turn out to be wildly inaccurate. Jason Leitch was predicting there could be as many as 14,000 cases per day in early September but the government's own figures show that the highest number reached was around 7,500. That's obviously great they didn't reach 14,000 but it's quite a margin of error for someone who's playing a major role in the government's strategy. I appreciate it's not easy but we've seen hugely inaccurate and misleading modeling from a number of people involved in the response in the past 18 months and I think more journalists should be highlighting this when it has such an impact on people's lives and mental health. 👍👍 2 hours ago, Des Lynam said: Jason Leitch was on a ego trip. Hopefully we don’t have to hear much more from him. Sadly journalism has died in this country. 👍 2 hours ago, thewiseone said: The mask has been the " visual representation of something to fear" It's subliminal messaging to other people, therefore carrying on the narrative. I mean the nonsense around masks and mask wearing when and where to wear them, and people have bought it, you couldn't make it up! Even our own government who make the rules don't follow them, what more evidence are people needing. It's all been bull! Hand sanitiser, masks, social distancing. Done non of it! Exactly hence great to see non compliance on a massive scale yesterday at .Tynie . People have had enough 1 hour ago, Mars plastic said: 👍 1 hour ago, Mars plastic said: The same Jason Leitch who was shouting from the rooftops that masks make no difference whatsoever before having to fall into line like that other snp mouthpiece, Sridhar. Surprise surprise she has a book out soon ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Yeh he’s just a twit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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