manaliveits105 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) Hmmm Edited October 6, 2022 by manaliveits105 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 3 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Hmmm That you man(ali)veits105? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: What? Reading past the headline? Nah mate that's just getting carried away thinking you've delivered a zinger. The time it took you to dig this thread up from page 6 or 7 or wherever it was, you could have read the article properly, realised it was a non-story and you didn't need to bother. If you firmly believe that John Swinney was not being economical with the truth, then I can only conclude that you are a niave person. He is a politician, therefore his default mode is to be economical with the truth. That goes for all politicians regardless of the colour of rosette they wear. Edited October 6, 2022 by John Findlay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickC002 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, John Findlay said: If you firmly believe that John Swinney was not being economical with the truth, then I can only conclude that you are a niave person. He is a politician, therefore his default mode is to be economical with the truth. That goes for all politicians regardless of the colour of rosette they wear. Are you not being a bit harsh JF on all politicians? After all, Nicola Sturgeon November 2014 Dundee Caird Hall "I am determined to lead an outward-looking government, which is open and accessible to members of the public, ensuring that the SNP remain close to all the people we serve, regardless of how they vote." seems legit, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, NickC002 said: Are you not being a bit harsh JF on all politicians? After all, Nicola Sturgeon November 2014 Dundee Caird Hall "I am determined to lead an outward-looking government, which is open and accessible to members of the public, ensuring that the SNP remain close to all the people we serve, regardless of how they vote." seems legit, no? About as legit as a chocolate fireguard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, NickC002 said: Are you not being a bit harsh JF on all politicians? After all, Nicola Sturgeon November 2014 Dundee Caird Hall "I am determined to lead an outward-looking government, which is open and accessible to members of the public, ensuring that the SNP remain close to all the people we serve, regardless of how they vote." seems legit, no? She probably can’t recall saying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 5 points onto Yes since last YouGov poll too. Collapsing so they are. Collapsing 😂 No more tories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: 5 points onto Yes since last YouGov poll too. Collapsing so they are. Collapsing 😂 No more tories. Good news. Labour gaining seats, unfortunately! One of the Lib Dem seats will be my constituency in Edinburgh West, unfortunately, again! Jardine is a miserable wee woman. Typical greeting faced unionist, the female equivalent of Ian Murray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, John Findlay said: If you firmly believe that John Swinney was not being economical with the truth, then I can only conclude that you are a niave person. He is a politician, therefore his default mode is to be economical with the truth. That goes for all politicians regardless of the colour of rosette they wear. You realise it's illegal for politicians to interfere in a public enquiry right? Now don't you think that if the Record or anyone else had any evidence of that they'd be shouting very loudly about it, especially given their absolute desperation to get after the SNP? It's a non story which appears to only exercise the fevered minds of the unionists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: Good news. Labour gaining seats, unfortunately! One of the Lib Dem seats will be my constituency in Edinburgh West, unfortunately, again! Jardine is a miserable wee woman. Typical greeting faced unionist, the female equivalent of Ian Murray. Be sad to see Dross and Ali Jack lose their seats… Totally tragical😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 minute ago, jack D and coke said: Be sad to see Dross and Ali Jack lose their seats… Totally tragical😐 We'll just be left with red Tories. The party of the working man. The party that still thinks Brexit is a goer. Haud me back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Be sad to see Dross and Ali Jack lose their seats… Totally tragical😐 Every cloud. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 32 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: You realise it's illegal for politicians to interfere in a public enquiry right? Now don't you think that if the Record or anyone else had any evidence of that they'd be shouting very loudly about it, especially given their absolute desperation to get after the SNP? It's a non story which appears to only exercise the fevered minds of the unionists. All governments interfere in all enquiries, have done since the first one was ever conceived. To think otherwise is just plain daft. All governments deny doing so too. I will stick with my contempt for all politicians. I lived through enough lies, deceit, and scandals from all the main political parties to justify my contempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Time Scotland voted Labour again and emptied the natsy party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, Dazo said: Every cloud. 😂 Haha defo pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 55 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: 5 points onto Yes since last YouGov poll too. Collapsing so they are. Collapsing 😂 No more tories. Is there not enough Tory threads in the shed for you jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairneyhill Jambo Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, jack D and coke said: 5 points onto Yes since last YouGov poll too. Collapsing so they are. Collapsing 😂 No more tories. Going back to there being more pandas in Scotland than tory MSPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: Is there not enough Tory threads in the shed for you jack Thread banned😊 Only some I can stick the boot in atm😐 Hounding tories never gets old pal😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: All governments interfere in all enquiries, have done since the first one was ever conceived. To think otherwise is just plain daft. All governments deny doing so too. I will stick with my contempt for all politicians. I lived through enough lies, deceit, and scandals from all the main political parties to justify my contempt. You can be as contemptuous as you want. I'll stick to pointing out when someone posts pish which is patently untrue. The SG appoint the chairperson and then they make the other appointees. It's in everyone's interest that the public inquiry goes ahead as soon as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Keeeeeeeeerp sweeping ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Nippy should just have copied Dippy and refused a covid enquiry. No enquiry is better than one which is being interfered with(allegedly🤔), let the English do all the work with their enquiry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Keeeeeeeeerp sweeping ! Nothing to sweep soft lad. Technically it would be a squeegee required to sweep away the slavering you do. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Chief, soft lad The Mighty Thor = JKB's top roadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Nucky Thompson said: Chief, soft lad The Mighty Thor = JKB's top roadman I think Truss has tipped him over the edge. Hope he’s alright, pray for Thor. 🙏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, jack D and coke said: Thread banned😊 24 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: The Mighty Thor = JKB's top roadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 3 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Be sad to see Dross and Ali Jack lose their seats… Totally tragical😐 It would be but Labour, Tories and LD just the same to me. Absolutely hate all of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: It would be but Labour, Tories and LD just the same to me. Absolutely hate all of them! Blue tories, red tories and yellow tories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Christ some folk on JKB must see Tories in their dreams… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: You can be as contemptuous as you want. I'll stick to pointing out when someone posts pish which is patently untrue. The SG appoint the chairperson and then they make the other appointees. It's in everyone's interest that the public inquiry goes ahead as soon as possible. You can continue being gullible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: You can be as contemptuous as you want. I'll stick to pointing out when someone posts pish which is patently untrue. The SG appoint the chairperson and then they make the other appointees. It's in everyone's interest that the public inquiry goes ahead as soon as possible. You have to wonder why the Scottish inquiry is struggling to get qualified senior legal people to stay in post. The UK one has just started - laying out the aims, boundaries and timetable first. Amer Anwar was pretty downbeat a few days ago about the prospect of the Scottish inquiry getting going. No need to conjure up stories about political interference yet - but there seems to be something not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: You can continue being gullible. John, one of us thinks the Royal family is a good thing. That's gullibility right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: Chief, soft lad The Mighty Thor = JKB's top roadman 2 hours ago, Dazo said: I think Truss has tipped him over the edge. Hope he’s alright, pray for Thor. 🙏 High praise from two of kickbacks sharpest minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 26 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: John, one of us thinks the Royal family is a good thing. That's gullibility right there. One of us has no understanding of veterans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: The self ID stuff makes me extremely uneasy, womens rights groups have voiced concerns and been utterly ignored 'concerns not valid' according to Sturgeon. We have single sex spaces for a reason, and those reasons aren't poorly thought out, or transphobic. I truly hope the concerns are indeed not valid, but I'm worried that some poor folk are going to fall victim to this legislation being used in bad faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, OTT said: The self ID stuff makes me extremely uneasy, womens rights groups have voiced concerns and been utterly ignored 'concerns not valid' according to Sturgeon. We have single sex spaces for a reason, and those reasons aren't poorly thought out, or transphobic. I truly hope the concerns are indeed not valid, but I'm worried that some poor folk are going to fall victim to this legislation being used in bad faith. Good posting 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 11 hours ago, NickC002 said: Are you not being a bit harsh JF on all politicians? After all, Nicola Sturgeon November 2014 Dundee Caird Hall "I am determined to lead an outward-looking government, which is open and accessible to members of the public, ensuring that the SNP remain close to all the people we serve, regardless of how they vote." seems legit, no? It would appear not to those of her own sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 £20.59 - bargain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickC002 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 30 minutes ago, jonesy said: Shame they cocked up the phonemic script. Are you sure? TBH think it's just self-IDing as the correct version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 3 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: £20.59 - bargain I won’t go on about this issue but it was a major story yesterday and it’s concerning and arrogant to the extreme she and her party are not listening to women . it’s going to end up in court . Another ill thought out policy by them . Seems to be a pattern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 3 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: £20.59 - bargain I won’t go on about this issue but it was a major story yesterday and it’s concerning and arrogant to the extreme she and her party are not listening to women . it’s going to end up in court . Another ill thought out policy by them . Seems to be a pattern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 05/10/2022 at 17:55, Japan Jambo said: Did something similar not happen with the drugs death committee? Did it ? Leader of public enquiry quits for personal reasons - is there anything to the contrary in your link or it's embedded links ? The drugs death committe were asked to come up with some quick wins and refused. Similar, or just having a go, as usual ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickC002 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: Did it ? Leader of public enquiry quits for personal reasons - is there anything to the contrary in your link or it's embedded links ? The drugs death committe were asked to come up with some quick wins and refused. Similar, or just having a go, as usual ? Yes, leader quit for personal reasons. Any inside track on why x4 other members of the legal team also all resigned at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: Did it ? Leader of public enquiry quits for personal reasons - is there anything to the contrary in your link or it's embedded links ? The drugs death committe were asked to come up with some quick wins and refused. Similar, or just having a go, as usual ? Lol, god forbid anyone asking a question that calls out the cult - should I expect a tap on the door from the Stasi? Give me a break. Anyways your glorious leader spoke very well on Radio 4 this morning, she is on fine form so toddle off an enjoy the conference. Would steer clear on the trans rights stuff though, she's not comfortable with those questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickC002 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: Would steer clear on the trans rights stuff though, she's not comfortable with those questions. Not so comfortable in her own skin kinda vibes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, NickC002 said: Not so comfortable in her own skin kinda vibes? She gave a great interview, answered questions and laid out her stall really well, while clearly I don't agree with her on many things I do respect her as one of our better politicians. There were actually a couple of nuggets in there that no doubt will appear here after the faithful have listened in on playback! On the trans stuff she was much less sure footed and clearly uncomfortable, it may be her own sexuality, it may be a generational thing (it's an issue I have trouble relating too), it may be a fear of the ferocity of the backlash should she misstep - who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 if there is any suggestion that there has been political interference by the Scottish Government then that is a resigning matter for the Politicians involved if true. Sturgeon has made it clear that she has ultimate responsibility for Government actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, jambos are go! said: if there is any suggestion that there has been political interference by the Scottish Government then that is a resigning matter for the Politicians involved if true. Sturgeon has made it clear that she has ultimate responsibility for Government actions. Think that rule only exists if interference coming from any politician other than FM and SNP. If FM or SNP do interfere, then no questions allowed. Just scream 'its the Tories fault' and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: She gave a great interview, answered questions and laid out her stall really well, while clearly I don't agree with her on many things I do respect her as one of our better politicians. There were actually a couple of nuggets in there that no doubt will appear here after the faithful have listened in on playback! On the trans stuff she was much less sure footed and clearly uncomfortable, it may be her own sexuality, it may be a generational thing (it's an issue I have trouble relating too), it may be a fear of the ferocity of the backlash should she misstep - who knows? The trans thing is everywhere it’s hardly just here. I agree it’s an extremely confusing matter I don’t really have opinions about it at all I just don’t understand it. I had a bevvy with a mate a month or so back and he told me his daughter wants to transition. He said it started after he noticed lots of evidence of self harming, lots of lacerations on her arms and stuff and he got it out of her. She wants to be known by a boys name now and he said its been traumatic for all involved. People use this stuff like it’s only happening here. Check this out for example… https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/nypost.com/2022/09/21/canadian-school-backs-trans-teacher-with-giant-fake-boobs/amp/ This isn’t a defence of Sturgeon btw but people go on like it’s only happening here. Edited October 7, 2022 by jack D and coke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 32 minutes ago, jambos are go! said: if there is any EVIDENCE that there has been political interference by the Scottish Government then that is a resigning matter for the Politicians involved if true. Sturgeon has made it clear that she has ultimate responsibility for Government actions. Ftfy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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