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ri Alban

Joining the Greens so they look good at Cop  They can feck off. The sooner Scotland is independent and rid of these ***** the better. 

 

Hopefully there becomes alternative party like Alba, but they need a different leader as Salmond is toxic.

 

 

Independence Nicola, that's what people voted your party for, not for you to be FM forever with the nutty greens in toe backing weirdo laws through.

 

 

Again feck off.

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Not that’s your point but don’t think it’s going to be a coalition. It’s a cooperation deal from what I’ve heard. 

it’s hard to deny that some of the green policies are bonkers 

 

 

 

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The Real Maroonblood
53 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Joining the Greens so they look good at Cop  They can feck off. The sooner Scotland is independent and rid of these ***** the better. 

 

Hopefully there becomes alternative party like Alba, but they need a different leader as Salmond is toxic.

 

 

Independence Nicola, that's what people voted your party for, not for you to be FM forever with the nutty greens in toe backing weirdo laws through.

 

 

Again feck off.

:lol:

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woah woah wait a minute. Stop Press!

 

Do you vote SNP @ri Alban?

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Jambo-Jimbo
56 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

Not that’s your point but don’t think it’s going to be a coalition. It’s a cooperation deal from what I’ve heard. 

it’s hard to deny that some of the green policies are bonkers 

 

 

 

 

BBC report is saying it's a power-sharing deal with the Greens in government for the first time anywhere in the UK and will also likely have ministers in government, in effect it's a coalition in all but name.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-58272209

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Konrad von Carstein
14 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

The Krankies and the Minnions a marriage made in heaven 

Relentless...gibberish, but relentless.

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If they get any of their more radical ideas through, we're looking at a very different country over the next few years.

 

I'd imagine that a lot of their stuff is simply accelerated versions of what can and probably should happen to make a more sustainable living environment for humans over the next century.

 

They do, however, come across as very interested in involving government in many aspects of both private and corporate lives, suggesting they know better how to run things than how things run themselves. For that reason, I'm highly suspicious of them. I do know one Green voter/activist, and he's alright though.

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3 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

Relentless...gibberish, but relentless.

Is that Swinney or Yousaf's biography you're typing up your notes for?

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Konrad von Carstein
12 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Is that Swinney or Yousaf's biography you're typing up your notes for?

No, it's for a journal collating your more "out there" posts in The Shed ;) :)

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SNP/Greens have been running the gaff together for yonks.

It's just always been an informal arrangement before with the Greens giving votes on a policy by policy basis..

Now it's actually more formal. Seems the parties get along well enough to be going steady now.

 

We've already had trash pieces in the Unionist media about how this deal will bring down both parties.

They're in blind panic mode.

:rofl:

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27 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

No, it's for a journal collating your more "out there" posts in The Shed ;) :)

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JackLadd

This change has occurred because Sturgeon needed a stronger guarantee her position was unassailable after the Salmond scandal almost toppled her rule and now she has it - at the expense of the Scotland and its people per usual. 

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Awbdy Oot
8 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

This change has occurred because Sturgeon needed a stronger guarantee her position was unassailable after the Salmond scandal almost toppled her rule and now she has it - at the expense of the Scotland and its people per usual. 

 

Did you mean unassailable? Doesn't make sense to me if you did. If her position was unassailable then she wouldn't need support from anyone else.

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I like the green party having influence.

Given the reality of what we are facing environmentally .

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JackLadd
13 minutes ago, Awbdy Oot said:

 

Did you mean unassailable? Doesn't make sense to me if you did. If her position was unassailable then she wouldn't need support from anyone else.

 

I meant is unassailable not was. It's a spin off from her feet being held to the fire over her and Swinney's shameless lies on Salmond and their buffoon James Hamilton QC's bogus let off. Tightening down the hatches at the expense of Scotland.  

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Can't really see what is so significant in this arrangement,or will change anything?

 

The Greens will get a couple of ministerial positions, the SNP will get to boost their environmental credibility ahead of Glasgow Cop26. (Without actually doing anything meaningful going by their track record).

 

 

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Deke Thornton
1 hour ago, Cade said:

SNP/Greens have been running the gaff together for yonks.

It's just always been an informal arrangement before with the Greens giving votes on a policy by policy basis..

Now it's actually more formal. Seems the parties get along well enough to be going steady now.

 

We've already had trash pieces in the Unionist media about how this deal will bring down both parties.

They're in blind panic mode.

:rofl:

Short term gain for the SNP maybe, but longer term Green agenda may well alienate existing SNP voters.

 

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Deke Thornton
9 minutes ago, pablo said:

Can't really see what is so significant in this arrangement,or will change anything?

 

The Greens will get a couple of ministerial positions, the SNP will get to boost their environmental credibility ahead of Glasgow Cop26. (Without actually doing anything meaningful going by their track record).

 

 

When you’re sitting in a mile long queue at Sherrifhall after the proposed bypass improvements have been formally and finally binned, you can reflect on the significance of Green involvement in government.

 

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6 minutes ago, Deke Thornton said:

When you’re sitting in a mile long queue at Sherrifhall after the proposed bypass improvements have been formally and finally binned, you can reflect on the significance of Green involvement in government.

 

 

Building more roads only generates more traffic. I'm with the Greens on that tbh.

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Nucky Thompson
2 hours ago, manaliveits105 said:

The Krankies and the Minnions a marriage made in heaven 

A match made in Hell.

I expect nothing will happen to the Sheriffhall roundabout and the Edinburgh city bypass will remain unfit for the 21st century 

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John Findlay

Never ceases to amaze me that people whinge at politicians behaving as politicians do.

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AlimOzturk
3 minutes ago, pablo said:

 

Building more roads only generates more traffic. I'm with the Greens on that tbh.


More roads was massively needed there. Congestion is equally bad for the environment as more traffic. I am not convinced more roads = more traffic. The same folk will use sherif hall regardless. 

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Nucky Thompson
3 minutes ago, pablo said:

 

Building more roads only generates more traffic. I'm with the Greens on that tbh.

Surely people sitting in traffic with their engines idling will be a lot worse for the environment than building a flyover to keep traffic moving

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Good to see this. Going forward there has to be more importance put on green policies (certainly not all of them though). Scotland already is one of the top countries in the world regarding renewable and we really can become world leaders in this, after independence of course. 

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1 minute ago, AlimOzturk said:


More roads was massively needed there. Congestion is equally bad for the environment as more traffic. I am not convinced more roads = more traffic. The same folk will use sherif hall regardless. 

 

I know, not an easy one is it? One thing is for sure, if we do want people to use their cars less, there has to be alternatives - and really good ones at that. And that costs serious money.

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3 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

Never ceases to amaze me that people whinge at politicians behaving as politicians do.

I agree. The SG was voted in as SNP plus greens being the majority so this deal just cements that

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5 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Surely people sitting in traffic with their engines idling will be a lot worse for the environment than building a flyover to keep traffic moving

Not in the vindictive minds of the cycle/green lobby. They don't want better flow, they want - and expect - no cars.

 

When I criticised the cycle lane bollards for preventing cars from moving out the way to allow an ambulance through at Causewayside (a potential life-threatening situation), my Green activist colleague said that, no, it was the fault of the drivers and their cars for being there.

 

They are fundamentalists in their outlook, and incredibly judgemental on how other people want to/need to go about their business.

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Ainsley Harriott

I dread to think what is going to be forced on Scotland during this term with wee Pat and Lorna in a position of power. Boris seriously needs to speed up the removal of devolved powers to The Scottish "Government". Its become an absolute circus.

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Ainsley Harriott
41 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Surely people sitting in traffic with their engines idling will be a lot worse for the environment than building a flyover to keep traffic moving

Your assuming we will still be allowed cars 😂

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redjambo
1 hour ago, Ked said:

I like the green party having influence.

Given the reality of what we are facing environmentally .

 

I'm with you on this one, Ked.

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Ainsley Harriott
4 hours ago, ri Alban said:

Joining the Greens so they look good at Cop  They can feck off. The sooner Scotland is independent and rid of these ***** the better. 

 

Hopefully there becomes alternative party like Alba, but they need a different leader as Salmond is toxic.

 

 

Independence Nicola, that's what people voted your party for, not for you to be FM forever with the nutty greens in toe backing weirdo laws through.

 

 

Again feck off.

Ah the moment when even her most blinded followers start to realise that Nicola is playing them all as fools. Glorious 

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Jonkel Hoon

A genuine green party keeping a reality check on the incumbent govt is no bad thing.  The perception here though is that the Scottish Greens are just the SNP with flowers in their hair.

 

Time will tell

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skinnybob72
1 hour ago, Boab said:

Democracy is a bugger eh !

😂

It is when a party that about 6 people voted for end up with a share of the power. 

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The Maroon Pound

What's the problem l with this Scottish government? There will be no future independence or freedoms for the people of Scotland voting SNP, more pish 

 

"TEMPORARY powers to close schools, introduce lockdowns and require face coverings could be made permanent in the event of future pandemics under proposals tabled by SNP ministers.

The Scottish Government has put forward a host of temporary powers it would like to either make permanent or extend – covering schools and education provision, justice and court procedures and digitising statutory processes.

But opponents have warned the SNP is heading down "a dangerous route" by proposing handing ministers permanent powers "on a whim".

Under the plans, launched in a public consultation, powers set to expire in March 2022 including “prohibiting or limiting numbers at gatherings, introducing lockdown measures, and requiring that face coverings are worn” could be permanently available to ministers.

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2 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

Wouldn't give any Political Party the steam off my shite. 

That's a pity as I'm sure the green party could use it to power up something.

🙂

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7 minutes ago, Ked said:

That's a pity as I'm sure the green party could use it to power up something.

🙂

:laugh:

 

:touche:

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manaliveits105
1 hour ago, Jonkel Hoon said:

A genuine green party keeping a reality check on the incumbent govt is no bad thing.  The perception here though is that the Scottish Greens are just the SNP with flowers in their hair.

 

Time will tell

Most of our resident nats would wear flowers in their hair but they don’t have much 

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The green party can **** right off.  Fruitloops.

 

 

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skinnybob72
10 minutes ago, Beni said:

 

Luv u 2 Bob x.

I had typed something that even I didn't agree with so deleted it again! Argument in an empty room situation...

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Governor Tarkin
1 hour ago, redjambo said:

 

I'm with you on this one, Ked.

 

As am I.

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Happy with this. The Greens will use their position to force more environmentaly sound policies through, while the SNP will knock back the slightly crazier ones. So what we should see is more policies that focus on the environment, but without some of the extreme plans the Greens propose. 

 

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1 hour ago, The Maroon Pound said:

What's the problem l with this Scottish government? There will be no future independence or freedoms for the people of Scotland voting SNP, more pish 

 

"TEMPORARY powers to close schools, introduce lockdowns and require face coverings could be made permanent in the event of future pandemics under proposals tabled by SNP ministers.

The Scottish Government has put forward a host of temporary powers it would like to either make permanent or extend – covering schools and education provision, justice and court procedures and digitising statutory processes.

But opponents have warned the SNP is heading down "a dangerous route" by proposing handing ministers permanent powers "on a whim".

Under the plans, launched in a public consultation, powers set to expire in March 2022 including “prohibiting or limiting numbers at gatherings, introducing lockdown measures, and requiring that face coverings are worn” could be permanently available to ministers.

It wasn't difficult for them to be granted the powers temporarily, nor would it be difficult in a future scenario.

 

Why would they need or want the powers permanently? And have they even for one second considered the possibility that future governments' intentions may not be as 'benign' as theirs supposedly are? Short-sighted and/or nefarious.

 

Could one of the SNP supporters justify this for us, please? Genuinely interested to know on what grounds government suspension of individual and group freedoms should be granted in perpetuity.

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