Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 17 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: Nah, it will shows where we are right now imo. It is a bit depressing, tho. Hibs wil be in Europe, we wil be newly promoted. Doesn't happen much but it does happen, players may choose hibs because of this. That could easily reverse next season, it often does. Only Aberdeen have showed any consistency in the past decade If we find ourselves in the bottom 6 and in relegation bother over the next 5 years while hibs are constantly in Europe I then would agree with you. I think paragraph 2 you agree, tough one to contemplate, but it would be a reality. How long it lasts, who knows. However I'm being speculative and we may respond, just not very confident of that, but GMS signing should give us hope. For 2 reasons, firstly his personal quality and secondly, I don't believe he would have signed without having some idea of what players we were looking at further forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Folk getting in a froth over Frear. Stock signing for a level he should have been capable at having done ok previously for Motherwell. We weren't signing Pele to sit on the bench. Apparently not all of our signings will be Pele this summer. Relief really since his prostate is not great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Seemingly he was shite because his wife was down south and he was all alone....according to Bob. You’re not one of life’s great romantics then? 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 14 hours ago, BigAlim said: Signing Campbell and a competent centre half would help us massively imo, would accept a cheap young option for other signings if we got those two wrapped up I don't think we are in for Campbell just wishful thinking from Kickback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: You’re not one of life’s great romantics then? 😄 Horrific excuse for being totally keek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Just now, Agentjambo said: Horrific excuse for being totally keek. Sadly I've seen worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: That's harsh and hindsight is a wonderful thing. I wish the bloke well and hopefully he gets a club closer to his family. It must have been difficult bring away from your wife and children for so long, given the circumstances. Fair enough away from his family was difficult I'll give him that. Not his fault he was signed either, I'll put that on our penis of a manager. He was rubbish though. Plenty others we need to offload this summer who are similar in ability to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Sadly I've seen worse Players or excuses ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droid Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: I don't think we are in for Campbell just wishful thinking from Kickback Personally don't think Hibs are either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, DH1986 said: Players or excuses ? Both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, droid said: Personally don't think Hibs are either He will be off down south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: I think paragraph 2 you agree, tough one to contemplate, but it would be a reality. How long it lasts, who knows. However I'm being speculative and we may respond, just not very confident of that, but GMS signing should give us hope. For 2 reasons, firstly his personal quality and secondly, I don't believe he would have signed without having some idea of what players we were looking at further forward Agreed. I like GMS, is was a signing with a view to the next. 2/3 years in mind imo. The fact Boyce is also happy gives me hope we can attract players that are proven at the top end of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Folk getting in a froth over Frear. Stock signing for a level he should have been capable at having done ok previously for Motherwell. We weren't signing Pele to sit on the bench. Apparently not all of our signings will be Pele this summer. Relief really since his prostate is not great Likely fail a drugs test too, guy is well known for popping pills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 13 hours ago, Rudy T said: By all accounts Nisbet is going and they’re replacing him with Shankland. Nicky Clark I heard . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Sadly I've seen worse It may well have been a factor as covid causes extra restrictions but he contributed very little so a poor signing whichever way you look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Likely fail a drugs test too, guy is well known for popping pills. Is this dangerous territory (legally)? I think SRB, if I were you I would ask the Mods to remove your post just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, JamboAl said: Is this dangerous territory (legally)? I think SRB, if I were you I would ask the Mods to remove your post just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Is this dangerous territory (legally)? I think SRB, if I were you I would ask the Mods to remove your post just in case. 😂😂 It's in reference to his viagra adverts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: 😂😂 It's in reference to his viagra adverts. My apologies - whoosh I just thought I was being helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Struggling to get my head around Pele reading JKB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Black Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 55 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Likely fail a drugs test too, guy is well known for popping pills. Frear or Pele? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Old Tolbooth said: Struggling to get my head around Pele reading JKB Posts on here a lot but we can’t give away his username. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Need legal advice? Better Call Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Gordon Ramsay said: Fair enough away from his family was difficult I'll give him that. Not his fault he was signed either, I'll put that on our penis of a manager. He was rubbish though. Plenty others we need to offload this summer who are similar in ability to him. Nobody forced him to sign the deal and leave his family behind, you get the feeling it was an better offer than any other he had if there was any. Poor player but contributed more than Roberts/Kastaneer/Popescu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, jonnothejambo said: That's harsh and hindsight is a wonderful thing. I wish the bloke well and hopefully he gets a club closer to his family. It must have been difficult bring away from your wife and children for so long, given the circumstances. Think his arrival was greeted with scepticism at best so not sure it's hindsight here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, David Black said: Frear or Pele? Pelé, KEEP UP 🍆😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Agentjambo said: Horrific excuse for being totally keek. If you want better, go and watch Man City.😁 Am I doing this right Boabby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, David Black said: Frear or Pele? Ffs. Pele and his viagra adverts. Have to go, a legal team, swat, fbi and a couple of police are at my door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Ffs. Pele and his viagra adverts. Have to go, a legal team, swat, fbi and a couple of police are at my door. First glance at your post reads as though you are talking about Frear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Compensation is 500k if campbell moves to another Scottish club. Folk think we are in for him 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Des Lynam said: Need legal advice? Better Call Al Need help in trolling or nosey interference? Better call the artificial Des Lynam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Compensation is 500k if campbell moves to another Scottish club. Folk think we are in for him 😂😂😂 So about double what we paid for Craig Wighton. I’m not sure it’s completely out the realms of possibility, even if I think he’ll go somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Compensation is 500k if campbell moves to another Scottish club. Folk think we are in for him 😂😂😂 How does the £500k figure mentioned come about ? Surely based on what he has been paid in the past and given he has been with Well all his career he won’t have been paid much. His current wage is probably in the £1500pw range so that’s £80k pa. He is 22 so only been on that wage for a year or two at most. Not sure I believe the £500k mentioned in the media. Suspect it will be no more than £250-300k if even that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, BackOfTheNet said: So about double what we paid for Craig Wighton. I’m not sure it’s completely out the realms of possibility, even if I think he’ll go somewhere else. Oddly enough I have never seen, even a hint, that the club are after Canpbell - except on here and yet the roasters will go into overdrive if he signs for someone else. We may have other targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Stu_HMFC said: Nicky Clark I heard . His old man would disown him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: How does the £500k figure mentioned come about ? Surely based on what he has been paid in the past and given he has been with Well all his career he won’t have been paid much. His current wage is probably in the £1500pw range so that’s £80k pa. He is 22 so only been on that wage for a year or two at most. Not sure I believe the £500k mentioned in the media. Suspect it will be no more than £250-300k if even that. Yup, think its supposed to be determined by length of time they have been at a club, international apperances on top of what you have already said. I suspect Motherwell are putting out that they calculate its £500k, whether a tribunal decides that or not if it goes to it. Lewis Ferguson when he moved to Aberdeen, Hamilton expected a large figure by tribunal, but it was only £250k which Hamilton were angry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: I take your point, Nookie, but he did ok at Motherwell so I didn't write him off immediately, although it didn't take long. Frear has turned out to be a poor signing but at the time we were all crying out for wingers and Frear was available. He must have played like Messi in his week's trial to be signed on. Edited May 12, 2021 by JamboAl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: I don't think there is a cat's chance in hell that he will sign for the Hearts. Hope I'm wrong mind. More and more you have to take a chance on these guys early. McCann is the other one now. Irish market is not the worst if you can spot them. Scottish guys nearly impossible now to wrestle a decent one, Aberdeen did with Ferguson but he may have peaked early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number-16 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Nobody forced him to sign the deal and leave his family behind, you get the feeling it was an better offer than any other he had if there was any. Poor player but contributed more than Roberts/Kastaneer/Popescu. The travel restrictions that stopped him seeing his family weren't in place when he signed. You could argue that he was maybe too optimistic about how the pandemic would play out but I think a lot of people last summer thought we'd passed the worst of it. Even if he did expect some restrictions to return, he took the option that he felt was best for his career and that gave him an income for his family at an uncertain time. It can be hard to predict how you'll cope away from your support networks. He tried (I don't think anyone has suggested he didn't), contributed to some goals but it just didn't work out overall. All the best I say. Edited May 12, 2021 by number-16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number-16 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) (Hit quote rather than edit) Edited May 12, 2021 by number-16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: I don't think there is a cat's chance in hell that he will sign for the Hearts. Hope I'm wrong mind. Agreed jonno the Daz gang say otherwise but the figures and I quote " wants a new challenge" say otherwise. Championship English his level at moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Ainsley Harriott said: I don't think we are in for Campbell just wishful thinking from Kickback I'd be shocked if we were! There's been enough talented players at other clubs these past few years that we could've went for. Problem is we want freebies, not promising younger players who have sell-on potential. Actually handing over a transfer fee for them would be far too ambitious. Maybe if we'd spent money more wisely we wouldn't have been mid-table to relegation fodder and signed so many duds. Years ago, if a good player was potentially available the only teams could realistically lost out to was Rangers and Celtic. Now the Aberdeen's and Hibs' of this world have been quicker of the mark and a bit more ambitious. Motherwell seem to find some good players almost every season. At the moment, players like Cole and Long upfront, along with the likes of Campbell in the middle should get them some cash in. That's our target market along with the likes of McGrath at St Mirren and one or two St Johnstone type players. It's a sad state of affairs but we just have to put up with it. The club needs to up their game, not bury their heads in the sand while others get on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 45 minutes ago, number-16 said: The travel restrictions that stopped him seeing his family weren't in place when he signed. You could argue that he was maybe too optimistic about how the pandemic would play out but I think a lot of people last summer thought we'd passed the worst of it. Even if he did expect some restrictions to return, he took the option that he felt was best for his career and that gave him an income for his family at an uncertain time. It can be hard to predict how you'll cope away from your support networks. He tried (I don't think anyone has suggested he didn't), contributed to some goals but it just didn't work out overall. All the best I say. Well he could’ve left in January if he wanted to, he took the best offer and wasn’t really up to the job. Should never have had the chance, he would’ve had a nervous breakdown if fans had been allowed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 I still want Tshibola and Seedorf. Tshibola would be a good number 8 type of midfielder similar to McEneff, maybe leaning slightly towards the defensive side, and I think the two of them would work well together. Pretty sure Bob signed him for MK Dons so would be surprised if he hasn't came up in conversation. Seedorf fell away a bit at Motherwell but think that was more him not fitting into their style of play than being pish although I haven't really watched them much this season. I wouldn't mind having him playing high on the left wing with Kingsley (or Halliday at times) behind him. Always made me really nervous when he played against us anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said: So about double what we paid for Craig Wighton. I’m not sure it’s completely out the realms of possibility, even if I think he’ll go somewhere else. Offer them £350k plus Roberts and include a sell-on clause on any future transfer fee. Same with McGrath at St Mirren. Offer them £200k plus Popescu and future sell-on. That way they get two wads of cash in the end. While we're at it, go and get Dunne before he ends up at Preston. He's actually free! Don't ask? Don't get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, JamboAl said: Frear has turned out to be a poor signing but at the time we were all crying out for wingers and Frear was available. He must have played like Messi in his week's trial to be signed on. I know. Especially as Moore was looking a bit more up for it after playing more under Stendel. Seemed (at the time) to be a waste of a wage, and that's been the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, jambonian said: I know. Especially as Moore was looking a bit more up for it after playing more under Stendel. Seemed (at the time) to be a waste of a wage, and that's been the case. Its actually diabolical that Moore wasn't given a chance when our other wingers were as pish. Think he played one game; the 3-1 win v Raith in the cup and I don't even think he played that bad from what I remember but then we just never saw him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 hours ago, JamboAl said: Oddly enough I have never seen, even a hint, that the club are after Canpbell - except on here and yet the roasters will go into overdrive if he signs for someone else. We may have other targets. Oddly enough, haven't seen any clubs linked with him, apart from Scotsman linking him with Hibs, but then again, they link everyone back to Hibs. No sign of Man City, Liverpool, Bayern or other big hitters seeking his signature. Strange because experts on here rave about him, despite poor goal scoring record They must be basing opinion on all the full Motherwell matches they have been watching. Suspect it's just building up so when he goes to English championship or 1st division, they can say we didn't do enough and we should have pushed boat out for him. If we did sign him, give it 10 minutes and he will be pish and waste of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: Its actually diabolical that Moore wasn't given a chance when our other wingers were as pish. Think he played one game; the 3-1 win v Raith in the cup and I don't even think he played that bad from what I remember but then we just never saw him again. There was just about enough there to offer him a reasonable crack at it if nothing else. It was only the Championship after all. I don't know why he wasn't given a chance but it would've saved another wage being plundered out of the coffers if they had. I doubt anyone would've expected him to be the be-all-and-end-all but sometimes a player just needs that opportunity. Edited May 12, 2021 by jambonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboT Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Compensation is 500k if campbell moves to another Scottish club. Folk think we are in for him 😂😂😂 You'll struggle to get a team outwith the old firm to pay that, however, you could do similar to what Hibs did with McGinn & St MIrren. Offer £200k and 25% of any sell on fee. The bottom line for Motherwell is that if nobody is willing to pay the £500k, he could go abroad like Nicholson did with us. Better to get some money than none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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