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5 minutes ago, Sir Gio said:

Most I would agree with except we won't be in serious trouble. 

 

It will be vanilla and vanilla simply is something we are all sick of. Mr Normal is not going to push us on. 

 

The Premier is a style where teams will play more, not so worried about games like Tuesday but more concerned that we will still lack imagination to bother teams enough. 

 

I look at Dundee United, they are a barometer, we should not be worried about struggling but more concerned that we need to raise the profile to be taking Hibs off that perch soonest 

I am not as convinced as you about that SG. Like practically every season in the premiership much will depend on how we start. If we start fast or steadily (winning most home games as we will be awful away) then it will in all probability be vanilla. If we don't then this management team and squad have shown this calendar year that they are capable of being very poor for a sustained period of time and have no tactical clue how to change things. It could quite easily get ugly quickly.

 

As for the cups don't get me started! Any Hearts manager should be told cups are the priority. As your username vividly illustrates any amount of crap in the league is instantly forgotten if you win a cup.

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25 minutes ago, Sir Gio said:

Most I would agree with except we won't be in serious trouble. 

 

It will be vanilla and vanilla simply is something we are all sick of. Mr Normal is not going to push us on. 

 

The Premier is a style where teams will play more, not so worried about games like Tuesday but more concerned that we will still lack imagination to bother teams enough. 

 

I look at Dundee United, they are a barometer, we should not be worried about struggling but more concerned that we need to raise the profile to be taking Hibs off that perch soonest 

Third paragraph is my biggest concern. It all feels very constrained in an attacking sense and RN seems to just get more defensive when we are not scoring goals. It’s the old - keep it tight and we’ll nick a goal mantra, we’ll score one but they’ll score none. Fine in principal but it just doesn’t work. 
 

 

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16 minutes ago, Jodami said:

I am not as convinced as you about that SG. Like practically every season in the premiership much will depend on how we start. If we start fast or steadily (winning most home games as we will be awful away) then it will in all probability be vanilla. If we don't then this management team and squad have shown this calendar year that they are capable of being very poor for a sustained period of time and have no tactical clue how to change things. It could quite easily get ugly quickly.

 

As for the cups don't get me started! Any Hearts manager should be told cups are the priority. As your username vividly illustrates any amount of crap in the league is instantly forgotten if you win a cup.

A good start is essential because there will be a noticeable decline. Where players revert to safe passes, easy but negative options and play deeper than they have in their entire careers. Once the team gets into that negative style, we already know, it’s very difficult to get out of it. 

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11 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:


I think you are making it up as you go along but but I don’t have a great desire to continue the debate.
 

Last post on the subject today.  His record with Hamilton was borderline incredible and the football was excellent , his promotion with Norwich great. In the subsequent seasons he’s had 2 great finishes especially the one in 7th. With the exception of the relegation season at Norwich (which was entirely to be expected) at worst he’s been mid table in the championship and this has usually happened in the seasons where he’s needed to rebuild the team. 
 

one thing he isn’t doing is “fighting relegation every season” it was nonsense when you posted it earlier and it’s still nonsense 

 

cheers

Show me where I said he was ‘fighting relegation every season’. 
I said he was trying to avoid a relegation battle most seasons. Finishing anywhere in bottom half is exactly that to me. His ‘great’ season with Norwich was only a four month spell given it was the January he joined them. 
Don’t believe he is the solution to our problems. 

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8 hours ago, iainmac said:

 

Won't be a problem.

Why not?  I heard initial sounding out suggested it would be. But then again I doubted whether that initial approach had actually been made. He is certainly an expensive hire, probably minimum of £10-12k pw for him and his sidekick combined, potentially a lot more. 

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3 hours ago, Jodami said:

I am not as convinced as you about that SG. Like practically every season in the premiership much will depend on how we start. If we start fast or steadily (winning most home games as we will be awful away) then it will in all probability be vanilla. If we don't then this management team and squad have shown this calendar year that they are capable of being very poor for a sustained period of time and have no tactical clue how to change things. It could quite easily get ugly quickly.

 

As for the cups don't get me started! Any Hearts manager should be told cups are the priority. As your username vividly illustrates any amount of crap in the league is instantly forgotten if you win a cup.

I think we over estimate the opposition. Hearts problem is Hearts. Totally agreed on cups, though COVID cups seem to bother me less, if you can't be there seem irrelevant to me. But we know that was a difficulty prior stint which bothers me quite a bit 

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19 hours ago, sadj said:

Wasnt there a poster last year did the same thing offered to leave , name escapes me but always claimed to be itk due to something they did at Riccarton

Did they fall on their [ bouncy] sword ?

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18 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said:

if the rumours do come true and Robbie goes, and Alex Neil is made manager (I know there are rumoured 4 candidates),  does anyone know what his style of football is?

 

Alex Neil, Derek McInnes, .. & .. ? 

 

Duncan Ferguson still in there?

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20 hours ago, sadj said:

Jimmy Dunne type signings? Players playing in the English Premiership? 😒 set your sights high i suppose 👍🏻

 

Kind of missing the point a wee bit (we're not talking a Man City/Liverpool etc here) but what i mean is that if he is out of contract he'll be looking to move on. I'm sure his agent will be looking around for him and chances are he'll play in the Championship down south as i don't see any Premier clubs signing him if he's not played that often for Burnley. However, not all players are looking for megabucks and some are happy to take a move sideways for a couple of seasons and then hope for the big bucks move. He has played for the club before, knows Hearts and loved it here, even saying he hopes he'll play again for us one day. At 23, this would be the perfect time and an automatic (left-sided) replacement for Berra. There's nothing to stop him signing a two/three year contract and if he does well, he gets us a big transfer fee in future. It's about speculating to accumulate, something that's been severely lacking for years at Hearts. We'd rather sign players from lower Leagues with no sell-on value that aren't even good enough for the club they're at. A freebie that is seen as replaceable by a Fleetwood Town or Tranmere type club etc. so why should they be good enough for us. 

I'm well aware we won't sign a player like this, you have to have ambition to do that, something we've not been in a long time. If the club wants to progress though, and be taken seriously then that should (on occasion) be the market we're looking at, and the best young talent in Scotland as well. If not, a mid-table unambitious battle will be the best we do.

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18 hours ago, Newton51 said:

This thread should be closed. Not happening 

Sadly this

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2 hours ago, jambonian said:

 

Kind of missing the point a wee bit (we're not talking a Man City/Liverpool etc here) but what i mean is that if he is out of contract he'll be looking to move on. I'm sure his agent will be looking around for him and chances are he'll play in the Championship down south as i don't see any Premier clubs signing him if he's not played that often for Burnley. However, not all players are looking for megabucks and some are happy to take a move sideways for a couple of seasons and then hope for the big bucks move. He has played for the club before, knows Hearts and loved it here, even saying he hopes he'll play again for us one day. At 23, this would be the perfect time and an automatic (left-sided) replacement for Berra. There's nothing to stop him signing a two/three year contract and if he does well, he gets us a big transfer fee in future. It's about speculating to accumulate, something that's been severely lacking for years at Hearts. We'd rather sign players from lower Leagues with no sell-on value that aren't even good enough for the club they're at. A freebie that is seen as replaceable by a Fleetwood Town or Tranmere type club etc. so why should they be good enough for us. 

I'm well aware we won't sign a player like this, you have to have ambition to do that, something we've not been in a long time. If the club wants to progress though, and be taken seriously then that should (on occasion) be the market we're looking at, and the best young talent in Scotland as well. If not, a mid-table unambitious battle will be the best we do.

Just ambition?

Not money?

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2 hours ago, jambonian said:

 

Kind of missing the point a wee bit (we're not talking a Man City/Liverpool etc here) but what i mean is that if he is out of contract he'll be looking to move on. I'm sure his agent will be looking around for him and chances are he'll play in the Championship down south as i don't see any Premier clubs signing him if he's not played that often for Burnley. However, not all players are looking for megabucks and some are happy to take a move sideways for a couple of seasons and then hope for the big bucks move. He has played for the club before, knows Hearts and loved it here, even saying he hopes he'll play again for us one day. At 23, this would be the perfect time and an automatic (left-sided) replacement for Berra. There's nothing to stop him signing a two/three year contract and if he does well, he gets us a big transfer fee in future. It's about speculating to accumulate, something that's been severely lacking for years at Hearts. We'd rather sign players from lower Leagues with no sell-on value that aren't even good enough for the club they're at. A freebie that is seen as replaceable by a Fleetwood Town or Tranmere type club etc. so why should they be good enough for us. 

I'm well aware we won't sign a player like this, you have to have ambition to do that, something we've not been in a long time. If the club wants to progress though, and be taken seriously then that should (on occasion) be the market we're looking at, and the best young talent in Scotland as well. If not, a mid-table unambitious battle will be the best we do.

Yh thats for the most part a decent post , i still think a bit ambitious but the general idea and tone I agree with. 

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10 hours ago, Hearts1975 said:

The last I heard, Robbie has already identified and talking to potential new comers as well as some in the current squad to release 

 

I can’t believe there is genuinely people who believe that Ann will get rid of him. It’s just not happening folks. She would have done so by now, and if she was serious in the first place 

 

The cheque book will be opened and handed to RN. Like it, or not, he will be leading us into the premiership next year 

 

God help us. That’s about all that I can muster. Hopefully Ann leaves before long, and so we can start looking to progress on the football side. 
 

New Manager. It just ain’t happening. Might as well close this thread. 


This is where I’m at too.

 

If losing to Brora wasn’t enough for Robbie to get the sack, then he isn’t getting it now. No amount of whingeing from us is going to change that.

 

Yes, I am concerned about still being crap and caught up in a relegation battle next season, but to be fair, the only time Robbie has managed us in the SPL (possibly the only time he has managed there at all) he did fine results-wise, though the football was hard to watch after the style in which we won the Championship.

 

It doesn’t much matter though. Robbie is what we’re getting, so we may as well get used to it.

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1 hour ago, Doc Rob said:


This is where I’m at too.

 

If losing to Brora wasn’t enough for Robbie to get the sack, then he isn’t getting it now. No amount of whingeing from us is going to change that.

 

Yes, I am concerned about still being crap and caught up in a relegation battle next season, but to be fair, the only time Robbie has managed us in the SPL (possibly the only time he has managed there at all) he did fine results-wise, though the football was hard to watch after the style in which we won the Championship.

 

It doesn’t much matter though. Robbie is what we’re getting, so we may as well get used to it.

Your second paragraph is bang on the money. I just cannot see how he can replicate the results he had first time around, and by playing the same way we have this season. There is zero evidence to suggest otherwise 
 

It appears to me that Ann now wants stability and has a desire to want to be proved right and vindicated that RN was the right appointment, because it was her preferred appointment. This could very well prove (yet again) to be her Achilles heel 

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It’s all so depressing. There is NO WAY Neilson will be a success next season, a couple of good results..maybe, but over the season it will be mind numbingly bad... he will then be gone and, guess what, it’s back to rebuilding for season 22/23! I desperately want to enjoy my football again - I can’t remember the last time I was really excited about a match, looking forward to it to the point you simply can’t wait for match day to come round. Now I tune in to Hearts TV out of a sense of duty, knowing it is going to be simply awful.....and 99% of the time I am not disappointed! 

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55 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said:

Your second paragraph is bang on the money. I just cannot see how he can replicate the results he had first time around, and by playing the same way we have this season. There is zero evidence to suggest otherwise 
 

It appears to me that Ann now wants stability and has a desire to want to be proved right and vindicated that RN was the right appointment, because it was her preferred appointment. This could very well prove (yet again) to be her Achilles heel 


Ann wants stability? She is certainly going about it the wrong way!

Proved right?.....She has history for making one bad decision after another. She might just get lucky one day.....But it's doesn't look like she has backed the right horse this time. 
On top of that, her preferred appointment just might not be the right appointment for HMFC, as results and performance have shown  

She is so far out of her depth. Some have seen this sad depreciation in standards and a rapid free fall in quality going on for years now with growing and damning evidence of her making one bad business decision after another, all her faults are well documented and catalogued on here (Jbk)!

Now she has taken to hiding from her customer base. Official statements from some media bode that does nothing to placate the situation. Hardly the actions of someone who is growing in confidence that stability is just around the corner!

There is no way she, or her appointment of Neilson can be vindicated now! Neilson blew that chance she had right out the water. He has well and truly lost the support and goodwill of the main people associated to the club - The support


Furthermore can Budge realistically stick two fingers up to the noisy, malcontented support and say "I knew Robbie was the right man!"....We will be well past recovery before we ever see that day!


Sadly for Ann Budge her Achilles heel will be her interfering in the running of a football club!  

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7 hours ago, OTT said:

 

Alex Neil, Derek McInnes, .. & .. ? 

 

Duncan Ferguson still in there?

He’s in there with Jimmy Dunne.

 

jesus, I really am as obsessed with folk thinking we should sign Jimmy dunne as the folk who think we should sign Jimmy dunne.

 

am slowly doing similar with big dunc 

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1 minute ago, Jim Panzee said:

He’s in there with Jimmy Dunne.

 

jesus, I really am as obsessed with folk thinking we should sign Jimmy dunne as the folk who think we should sign Jimmy dunne.

 

am slowly doing similar with big dunc 

 

:D Its going to be a sickener when he gets unveiled and his first signing is Jimmy Dunne :P 

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There's no danger that a competent board would allow Neilson to continue next season. 

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Trophy day would normally be the day the Board formally praise the manager and look forward to what he can achieve next season.

 

If no such praise is forthcoming Neilson will surely be gone after the Raith game.

 

On the other hand...

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17 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

There's no danger that a competent board would allow Neilson to continue next season. 

We haven’t got a competent board.

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Hearts1975
1 hour ago, Hashimoto said:


Ann wants stability? She is certainly going about it the wrong way!

Proved right?.....She has history for making one bad decision after another. She might just get lucky one day.....But it's doesn't look like she has backed the right horse this time. 
On top of that, her preferred appointment just might not be the right appointment for HMFC, as results and performance have shown  

She is so far out of her depth. Some have seen this sad depreciation in standards and a rapid free fall in quality going on for years now with growing and damning evidence of her making one bad business decision after another, all her faults are well documented and catalogued on here (Jbk)!

Now she has taken to hiding from her customer base. Official statements from some media bode that does nothing to placate the situation. Hardly the actions of someone who is growing in confidence that stability is just around the corner!

There is no way she, or her appointment of Neilson can be vindicated now! Neilson blew that chance she had right out the water. He has well and truly lost the support and goodwill of the main people associated to the club - The support


Furthermore can Budge realistically stick two fingers up to the noisy, malcontented support and say "I knew Robbie was the right man!"....We will be well past recovery before we ever see that day!


Sadly for Ann Budge her Achilles heel will be her interfering in the running of a football club!  

I am saying that AB is now the problem. If you read my previous posts on this thread you will see that. I never wanted Neilson in the first place as I suspected what is happening now, would happen. 
 

You miss the fundamental point. Threads are starting with who will be the next manager - comments about Neilson leaving at the end of the season. Neilson ain’t going anywhere. 
 

AB has a habit of digging her heels in especially when it comes to being loyal with managerial appointments. All thought out and involving those that you could say are within her inner circle.

 

The only time she went left field was with Stendels appointment. There ain’t no way in hell she will do something like that again so yes, in her own mind, she will bury her head in the sand, hoping and praying that RN will come good 

 

She is self proclaimed at knowing nothing about football. Why therefore do folk think that she will wield the axe now, when she has proved time and time again, that she will be loyal to those around her, regardless of what the support think - 

 

Go and read my previous posts on this thread and others. I have made my own view point crystal clear that the day we “recover”, is the day she steps out of Tynecastle, and for good. 

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1 hour ago, Agentjambo said:

We haven’t got a competent board.

Very true. 

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south morocco
1 hour ago, Agentjambo said:

We haven’t got a competent board.

I think that’s what he meant😀 Frustrating times ahead unless changes are made.

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Hashimoto
14 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said:

I am saying that AB is now the problem. If you read my previous posts on this thread you will see that. I never wanted Neilson in the first place as I suspected what is happening now, would happen. 
 

You miss the fundamental point. Threads are starting with who will be the next manager - comments about Neilson leaving at the end of the season. Neilson ain’t going anywhere. 
 

AB has a habit of digging her heels in especially when it comes to being loyal with managerial appointments. All thought out and involving those that you could say are within her inner circle.

 

The only time she went left field was with Stendels appointment. There ain’t no way in hell she will do something like that again so yes, in her own mind, she will bury her head in the sand, hoping and praying that RN will come good 

 

She is self proclaimed at knowing nothing about football. Why therefore do folk think that she will wield the axe now, when she has proved time and time again, that she will be loyal to those around her, regardless of what the support think - 

 

Go and read my previous posts on this thread and others. I have made my own view point crystal clear that the day we “recover”, is the day she steps out of Tynecastle, and for good. 

I don't disagree with what you say, In many ways it echoes my own thoughts!

Budge can dig her heels in all she wants, however she has never faced the turmoil and down right rebellious mood in the camp in her 6 years of total mismanagement. This is uncharted territory for Budge...I don't know how she will react to the vitriol directed towards her.

She has now effectively backed herself into a corner, she has no manoeuvring space left. People, like myself have decided that enough is enough!.....I'm not prepared to pay for 2nd best, or an inferior product anymore.
Budge has embarrassed Hearts for far too long for my liking now, and I don't want to be a part of it any longer. 

 

The terms for Budge is simple...Sack Neilson, bring in football people with a long term vision. or else lose my small contribution. 
It might be small fry for her...but it's a big sacrifice for me.

Incidentally, I do read your posts. They are well presented and provide an articulate argument. Keep them coming.

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14 hours ago, soonbe110 said:

Show me where I said he was ‘fighting relegation every season’. 
I said he was trying to avoid a relegation battle most seasons. Finishing anywhere in bottom half is exactly that to me. His ‘great’ season with Norwich was only a four month spell given it was the January he joined them. 
Don’t believe he is the solution to our problems. 

 

I think antti is Alex Neils agent.

 

If managers have such a thing.

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5 minutes ago, 151 said:

 

I think antti is Alex Neils agent.

 

If managers have such a thing.


not at all everything I posted was fact based. Just refuting some nonsense.  It’s like the board has taken on some trump like qualities. State it often enough and it becomes true in people’s heads.

 

is Alex Neil the best manager ever ? Obviously not. Has he done enough in his career to suggest he’d do a good job for hearts? Or at least warrant a shot at it?  It isn’t even a question! There wouldn’t be a better candidate available who we could afford . 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Cruyff said:

There's no danger that a competent board would allow Neilson to continue next season. 

Correct. Dereliction of duty if they waste another season with an already failed appointment.

 

Ann really needs to just **** off to allow us to grow as a club. We cannot and will not move forward with her interference in footballing matters when she has shown time and again she hasnt a clue!

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1 hour ago, Cruyff said:

There's no danger that a competent board would allow Neilson to continue next season. 

That's the big problem right there.

The custodians of our club, namely Budge, is completely incompetent.

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4 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:


not at all everything I posted was fact based. Just refuting some nonsense.  It’s like the board has taken on some trump like qualities. State it often enough and it becomes true in people’s heads.

 

is Alex Neil the best manager ever ? Obviously not. Has he done enough in his career to suggest he’d do a good job for hearts? Or at least warrant a shot at it?  It isn’t even a question! There wouldn’t be a better candidate available who we could afford . 
 

 

He was earning more than McInnes until recently. Not suggesting either is the answer but of the two McInnes is more likely to be successful imo. 

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7 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:


not at all everything I posted was fact based. Just refuting some nonsense.  It’s like the board has taken on some trump like qualities. State it often enough and it becomes true in people’s heads.

 

is Alex Neil the best manager ever ? Obviously not. Has he done enough in his career to suggest he’d do a good job for hearts? Or at least warrant a shot at it?  It isn’t even a question! There wouldn’t be a better candidate available who we could afford . 
 

 

You weren’t posting facts though.  Other posters pointed that out. 
Didn’t win the Championship at Hamilton 

Didn't finish third at Hamilton. 

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3 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

You weren’t posting facts though.  Other posters pointed that out. 
Didn’t win the Championship at Hamilton 

Didn't finish third at Hamilton. 

 

4 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

You weren’t posting facts though.  Other posters pointed that out. 
Didn’t win the Championship at Hamilton 

Didn't finish third at Hamilton. 

Given all that’s happened, Would you take him

over Neilson next season? 

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2 hours ago, Cruyff said:

There's no danger that a competent board would allow Neilson to continue next season. 

The narrative they are telling themselves though, is that this is one of the hardest leagues to get out off in one of the hardest years in living memory.   Yet, it’s a fact that we won the league playing well short of our capability and putting in numerous half hearted performances.  That talk suggests they don’t get it or are trying to talk their way out of it.  Either way, this will not end well unless we see a clean slate.  New manager,  AB stepping aside and FOH finally becoming the owners.    I live in hope! 

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50 minutes ago, south morocco said:

 

Given all that’s happened, Would you take him

over Neilson next season? 

No, don’t think he would be much better. 

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Hearts1975
1 hour ago, Hashimoto said:

I don't disagree with what you say, In many ways it echoes my own thoughts!

Budge can dig her heels in all she wants, however she has never faced the turmoil and down right rebellious mood in the camp in her 6 years of total mismanagement. This is uncharted territory for Budge...I don't know how she will react to the vitriol directed towards her.

She has now effectively backed herself into a corner, she has no manoeuvring space left. People, like myself have decided that enough is enough!.....I'm not prepared to pay for 2nd best, or an inferior product anymore.
Budge has embarrassed Hearts for far too long for my liking now, and I don't want to be a part of it any longer. 

 

The terms for Budge is simple...Sack Neilson, bring in football people with a long term vision. or else lose my small contribution. 
It might be small fry for her...but it's a big sacrifice for me.

Incidentally, I do read your posts. They are well presented and provide an articulate argument. Keep them coming.

All good 👍 

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kingantti1874
1 hour ago, soonbe110 said:

You weren’t posting facts though.  Other posters pointed that out. 
Didn’t win the Championship at Hamilton 

Didn't finish third at Hamilton. 


I corrected my mistake didn’t I? They were 3rd when he left - and his record there was unbelievable. 

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7 hours ago, Doc Rob said:


This is where I’m at too.

 

If losing to Brora wasn’t enough for Robbie to get the sack, then he isn’t getting it now. No amount of whingeing from us is going to change that.

 

Yes, I am concerned about still being crap and caught up in a relegation battle next season, but to be fair, the only time Robbie has managed us in the SPL (possibly the only time he has managed there at all) he did fine results-wise, though the football was hard to watch after the style in which we won the Championship.

 

It doesn’t much matter though. Robbie is what we’re getting, so we may as well get used to it.

Well there’s no reason why we should accept or get used to Robbie Neilson. At this moment in time he hasn’t been sacked for some unknown reason so I’d hope they let him stay for the ICT and Raith games then someone in charge pays him off.

There’s no future for Robbie now that the support has turned against him and it would be better for all concerned he goes.

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Jim Panzee
5 hours ago, OTT said:

 

:D Its going to be a sickener when he gets unveiled and his first signing is Jimmy Dunne :P 

Totally. I will officiate delete my JKB account.

 

(and create a new one)

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4 hours ago, Agentjambo said:

We haven’t got a competent board.

 

Hey, we've got lots of lawyers and corporate folks!  

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3 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:


not at all everything I posted was fact based. Just refuting some nonsense.  It’s like the board has taken on some trump like qualities. State it often enough and it becomes true in people’s heads.

 

is Alex Neil the best manager ever ? Obviously not. Has he done enough in his career to suggest he’d do a good job for hearts? Or at least warrant a shot at it?  It isn’t even a question! There wouldn’t be a better candidate available who we could afford . 
 

 

Not for me. I respect that we all have different opinions. What has Alex Neil done to warrant the opportunity? Nothing in my opinion. No idea who I would ask / offer the position to if I had the power, but it certainly would not be Alex Neil. 

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8 minutes ago, BEDNAR BOY said:

Paul lambert

Do tell...

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gregzy2k7
25 minutes ago, BEDNAR BOY said:

Paul lambert

Whats his record like? Hasn't he been punted by pretty much every club he has managed?

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karipidis
8 hours ago, soonbe110 said:

No, don’t think he would be much better. 

What chance do Hearts have when people are turning there nose up at Alex Neil. Clearly a better and more successful manager than Robbie Neilson as well as Jack Ross. 

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Mars plastic
8 hours ago, soonbe110 said:

No, don’t think he would be much better. 

This from a guy who thought Levein was a better manager than the guy who’s just taken Scotland to their first tournament in 23 years. Oh ma sides.

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9 minutes ago, karipidis said:

What chance do Hearts have when people are turning there nose up at Alex Neil. Clearly a better and more successful manager than Robbie Neilson as well as Jack Ross. 

Neil romped the championship and then managed in the best league in the world. Neilson goes to MK Dons and gets them relegated to League 2, but aye, Neil wouldn’t be an upgrade. 

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7 hours ago, mitch41 said:

Well there’s no reason why we should accept or get used to Robbie Neilson. At this moment in time he hasn’t been sacked for some unknown reason so I’d hope they let him stay for the ICT and Raith games then someone in charge pays him off.

There’s no future for Robbie now that the support has turned against him and it would be better for all concerned he goes.

We have moved on from

 

Can't afford to get rid of him, can't afford not to

 

To simply,

 

Really, can't afford not to.

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On 23/04/2021 at 06:30, Hearts1975 said:

The last I heard, Robbie has already identified and talking to potential new comers as well as some in the current squad to release 

 

I can’t believe there is genuinely people who believe that Ann will get rid of him. It’s just not happening folks. She would have done so by now, and if she was serious in the first place 

 

The cheque book will be opened and handed to RN. Like it, or not, he will be leading us into the premiership next year 

 

God help us. That’s about all that I can muster. Hopefully Ann leaves before long, and so we can start looking to progress on the football side. 
 

New Manager. It just ain’t happening. Might as well close this thread. 

 

Exactly the same as I've heard.

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13 hours ago, Hearts1975 said:

Your second paragraph is bang on the money. I just cannot see how he can replicate the results he had first time around, and by playing the same way we have this season. There is zero evidence to suggest otherwise 
 

It appears to me that Ann now wants stability and has a desire to want to be proved right and vindicated that RN was the right appointment, because it was her preferred appointment. This could very well prove (yet again) to be her Achilles heel 

 

 

I understand the concerns, but There is evidence to suggest we can be consistent in the league. 

 

We are first this season for a start. 

There was nothing in it in the games v hibs and celtic and he's also done it before over a decent period of time with us. 

 

It's not guaranteed, and we might struggle but I think we are over estimating the other teams and if anything there is evidence to suggest we'll be more than fine in the top flight. 

 

The cups are a different matter. 

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10 hours ago, Hashimoto said:

I don't disagree with what you say, In many ways it echoes my own thoughts!

Budge can dig her heels in all she wants, however she has never faced the turmoil and down right rebellious mood in the camp in her 6 years of total mismanagement. This is uncharted territory for Budge...I don't know how she will react to the vitriol directed towards her.

She has now effectively backed herself into a corner, she has no manoeuvring space left. People, like myself have decided that enough is enough!.....I'm not prepared to pay for 2nd best, or an inferior product anymore.
Budge has embarrassed Hearts for far too long for my liking now, and I don't want to be a part of it any longer. 

 

The terms for Budge is simple...Sack Neilson, bring in football people with a long term vision. or else lose my small contribution. 
It might be small fry for her...but it's a big sacrifice for me.

Incidentally, I do read your posts. They are well presented and provide an articulate argument. Keep them coming.

 

 

Terms for Budge.... 

She has done that 

New CEO, Savage and JJ. 

 

The only thing she hasn't done is sack Neilson. 

 

 

 

 

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