fila Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 11 hours ago, part_time_jambo said: Spot on - Sean Clare, Craig Wighton both berated by supporters but came good. Doesn't help one bit being booed from the stands, or over-criticised on here Would not say both these players came good, Clare was still bang average in an absolutely shocking squad , and jury is still very much out on Wighton for me, championship player at best and not one of the best either . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I rate the guy a lot. Brilliant footballer and this touch is excellent. If you look at his pass to Halliday last night that shows great awareness. I think he's just little low on confidence in front of goal. Personally I think he might do better a bit deeper and Wighton plays up front? Guess that means Naismith will probably have to go out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 39 minutes ago, HMFC 86 said: Cretinous post as per Add it to a very long list! 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Add it to a very long list! 🙄 Yep mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
part_time_jambo Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, fila said: Would not say both these players came good, Clare was still bang average in an absolutely shocking squad , and jury is still very much out on Wighton for me, championship player at best and not one of the best either . Ok, but they did turn it round, and changed opinion on here from mostly negative to mostly positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 7 hours ago, part_time_jambo said: Ok, but they did turn it round, and changed opinion on here from mostly negative to mostly positive. Clare gave a few good performances, never lived up to the hype Wighton has a lot more to prove to show he has turned the corner to becoming a potent forward, still doesn’t shine week in week out at championship level, would love him to be the Dykes or Shanklands but cannot see it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 21 hours ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Not sure what you are implying but I was invalided out. Nothing to do with confidence. I’ve a mate who was in B troop and was invalided out. He turned up at barracks one day and they had RTU’d him without letting him know. Couldn’t even get in to collect his belongings. He fell on hard times a bit as the elite unit don’t really give a hoot about you once you’re out. Tbh he’s still bitter about the way it ended for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme an H... Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 11 hours ago, HMFC 86 said: Do you think the players get stage fright then I think when they're having a bad day at the office the majority of players (at Scottish football level ie. not elite level football) don't have what it takes to stand up to the abuse/booing they get from their own fans when they miss a chance, play a shite pass or have a shite first touch. 22 hours ago, Inch Hearts said: Yet last night some claimed its so flat because the fans aren’t there. Sure it’s the guys who put £100s into their club every seasons fault we are flat in a second half against part timers in the Scottish Championship and not miss management of the club from top to bottom. Boyce is a good player on topic, does he want to be kicking about this league? His best displays are in big games for club and country. Could be a motivational issue. Certainly not worth the wages we apparently offered him. I've never once came even close to suggesting this. Mainly because there wasn't a single paying Hearts' fan allowed at the game on Tuesday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Saughton Jambo said: I’ve a mate who was in B troop and was invalided out. He turned up at barracks one day and they had RTU’d him without letting him know. Couldn’t even get in to collect his belongings. He fell on hard times a bit as the elite unit don’t really give a hoot about you once you’re out. Tbh he’s still bitter about the way it ended for him. A sad tale all too often repeated, I too am disgusted by the way I was dismissed, no communication and no back up. However that was a long time ago and we move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Ex member of the SaS said: A sad tale all too often repeated, I too am disgusted by the way I was dismissed, no communication and no back up. However that was a long time ago and we move on. Sad way to treat people ,who gave there best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) For those that watched the entire match, how did Boyce do today? A lot of fans saying that Neilson should have dropped him for the match and I see he was taken off after 62 minutes. Edited November 28, 2020 by Lambo85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lambo85 said: For those that watched the entire match, how did Boyce do today? A lot of fans saying that Neilson should have dropped him for the match and I see he was taken off after 62 minutes. He was poor, he was replaced by Wighton, he was worse, anonymous the problem with our strikers, and has been for years is the lack of service and creativity from our midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambomjm74 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 one of the many reasons we are failing as a team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney bulge Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 He will start scoring goals. All strikers go through a drought and period where they can’t hit a barn door. hopefully soon.where as Robert’s frear popescu Lee will never be players !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos1983 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, jbee647 said: He was poor, he was replaced by Wighton, he was worse, anonymous the problem with our strikers, and has been for years is the lack of service and creativity from our midfield This is generally true but Boyce has missed some easy chances this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Maybe if we played two strikers , let them form a partnership and gave them decent service they’d start to score goals . They’d also give our opponents defenders more work and less time with the ball . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, jbee647 said: He was poor, he was replaced by Wighton, he was worse, anonymous the problem with our strikers, and has been for years is the lack of service and creativity from our midfield i keep reading this, and whilst it’s not entirely untrue to blame midfield.. our strikers are are static, they don’t move, they don’t find space, they don’t run. They make it impossible for the midfield to look good.. it’s a 2 ways street.. both shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, kingantti1874 said: i keep reading this, and whilst it’s not entirely untrue to blame midfield.. our strikers are are static, they don’t move, they don’t find space, they don’t run. They make it impossible for the midfield to look good.. it’s a 2 ways street.. both shite Not disagreeing, but this has been an issue for a very long time, Lack of pace, creativity, strength, bravery and guile, it’s all been down to very poor recruitment, Boyce is just another in a long number of Hearts strikers who struggles due to lack of service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Wanshot. Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 He MUST BE DROPPED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 For the wages he's on he shouldn't be a fixer upper. Utter shite septic fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, jbee647 said: Not disagreeing, but this has been an issue for a very long time, Lack of pace, creativity, strength, bravery and guile, it’s all been down to very poor recruitment, Boyce is just another in a long number of Hearts strikers who struggles due to lack of service he isn’t making the job of being a midfielder easy.. they will never look good with static front men.. literally no one to pass to, no runs to find.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 He has been poor but maybe Neilson should go with two up top to give him more support. Why we play with one up front against these crappy wee teams is beyond me. Another factor in that league is I think we could do with a big strong target man to mix things up a bit because teams suss out the way we play very easily. It would be another option if need be to vary our play a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, jbee647 said: He was poor, he was replaced by Wighton, he was worse, anonymous the problem with our strikers, and has been for years is the lack of service and creativity from our midfield Sounds like Neilson was too slow to bring Irving on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Boyce is never going to score if he's constantly playing with his back to goal, dropping deep and holding the ball up, waiting for our brilliant attacking mids, Lee, Walker or Halliday to go beyond and score a goal. Shite tactics. Clearly being asked to do what he is doing. I seem to remember Tony Watt doing a very similar thing. Unfortunately for Robbie this time around, there is no Nicholson, Djoum or Paterson to save his ass. Edited November 29, 2020 by Cruyff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Sertse said: For the wages he's on he shouldn't be a fixer upper. Utter shite septic fan. Get a grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Shite player. Could not score in a brothel full of cock hungry nymphos with a million dollars stuck to his boaby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Another factor in that league is I think we could do with a big strong target man to mix things up a bit because teams suss out the way we play very easily. It would be another option if need be to vary our play a bit. Like Uche? Say what you want about Uche and Washington but our squad was definitely weakened when those 2 left and we never replaced them. What we are left with now is a striker who we are paying big money for that is totally out of form and Wighton, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Boycie get the finger out. If you can't score against a butcher, a Baker or a candlestick maker, you should chuck it at Hearts. Now relax and start scoring ya useless big 'bleep' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allystrachan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: He has been poor but maybe Neilson should go with two up top to give him more support. Why we play with one up front against these crappy wee teams is beyond me. Another factor in that league is I think we could do with a big strong target man to mix things up a bit because teams suss out the way we play very easily. It would be another option if need be to vary our play a bit. That’s it for me. Boyce has been rubbish but he’s up front on his own with no service. I’m sick of watching this type of football, especially against part timers. It’s putting me right off even bothering to get a stream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGorgie Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 A good few posters on here were adamant Boyce would score for fun in this league and would easily get 20 this season. Reality is even when given simple chances is he effs up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Boycie get the finger out. If you can't score against a butcher, a Baker or a candlestick maker, you should chuck it at Hearts. Now relax and start scoring ya useless big 'bleep' Should not have been playing, hes obviously out of sorts, dunno whats wrong with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 On 25/11/2020 at 21:01, heartsfc_fan said: I rate the guy a lot. Brilliant footballer and this touch is excellent. If you look at his pass to Halliday last night that shows great awareness. I think he's just little low on confidence in front of goal. Personally I think he might do better a bit deeper and Wighton plays up front? Guess that means Naismith will probably have to go out. This there is a player in there. He gets zero service and is lacking in confidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJT Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 8 hours ago, 3fingersreid said: Maybe if we played two strikers , let them form a partnership and gave them decent service they’d start to score goals . They’d also give our opponents defenders more work and less time with the ball . I agree with this. Stendel went gung ho with no plan to steady things if it didn’t work. We now seem to have reverted to the other extreme- over cautious sideways/backwards play. Against teams like our opponents in the championship we should really pressure them, try to take a player on, because on paper our players should have more basic capability than their opponents in the main. stop switching around the wings and playing them deep, play players up front together. Speed it up! Give the bloody forwards passes forward!! Eventually then one of their shots might go in. Need to stop over complicating things The longer we don’t press these teams, the lower our confidence will be 🙄 By the way this post is more about frustration - I get it might be harder in practice to get the team to do this! I wonder what they’re getting told to do though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: Should not have been playing, hes obviously out of sorts, dunno whats wrong with him. I think they think they're playing in the championship. Obviously not, at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 hours ago, J.T.F.Robertson said: Get a grip. Go on then, tell me why my opinion is wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: I think they think they're playing in the championship. Obviously not, at the moment. The fact we beat them 3-0 4 days before makes this result even more a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 hours ago, kimosavi said: This there is a player in there. He gets zero service and is lacking in confidence This “zero service” excuse is nonsense - he has missed a gilt edged chance in nearly every game he has played for Hearts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I have restrained myself from commenting but for me Boyce and Wighton are no where near good enough for Hearts. Wighton scored a couple of penalties and suddenly he's a striker? Get rid of both and find someone who knows where the sticks are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 On 26/11/2020 at 06:58, Saughton Jambo said: I’ve a mate who was in B troop and was invalided out. He turned up at barracks one day and they had RTU’d him without letting him know. Couldn’t even get in to collect his belongings. He fell on hard times a bit as the elite unit don’t really give a hoot about you once you’re out. Tbh he’s still bitter about the way it ended for him. What year was this? My mate in the group says guys who are injured are either still employed by them under different roles, as instructors or they end up doing cushy private jobs for Megabucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Harry Potter said: The fact we beat them 3-0 4 days before makes this result even more a joke. I meant too big to be playing in the championship. They need to accept they are and get on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: I have restrained myself from commenting but for me Boyce and Wighton are no where near good enough for Hearts. Wighton scored a couple of penalties and suddenly he's a striker? Get rid of both and find someone who knows where the sticks are. apart from Lafferty we have had nothing but utter garbage up front for years. Boyce has been a huge disappointment this season. He looks uninterested and lost. Add in the fact that he’s being dragged down to the garbage level ( ability as well as attitude) of his teammates and it’s a toxic mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I really hope that the club and this prima dona come to an agreement and end his contract. Not quite Wighton shite but close behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 The amount of experts on strikers here is staggering. You can't give your strikers one chance per game and expect them to score it. You can't ask your strikers to drop in to midfield, do the work, than sprint into the box ready and focused to take the chance. If Boyce could do either of these things he wouldn't be playing for Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I meant too big to be playing in the championship. They need to accept they are and get on with it. You are right ri, i still seriously think this lot are lacking real effort, no real hunger to win games. This is not acceptable and its up to Neilson to lay it on the line to them, obviously no lessons learned in the defeat to Dunfermline.☹️. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bunny Munro said: The amount of experts on strikers here is staggering. You can't give your strikers one chance per game and expect them to score it. You can't ask your strikers to drop in to midfield, do the work, than sprint into the box ready and focused to take the chance. If Boyce could do either of these things he wouldn't be playing for Hearts. It is not one game though is it. I mean come on, our two main goal threats are our full backs and centre half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: You are right ri, i still seriously think this lot are lacking real effort, no real hunger to win games. This is not acceptable and its up to Neilson to lay it on the line to them, obviously no lessons learned in the defeat to Dunfermline.☹️. Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrystaf Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 hours ago, topsport said: I agree with this. Stendel went gung ho with no plan to steady things if it didn’t work. We now seem to have reverted to the other extreme- over cautious sideways/backwards play. Against teams like our opponents in the championship we should really pressure them, try to take a player on, because on paper our players should have more basic capability than their opponents in the main. stop switching around the wings and playing them deep, play players up front together. Speed it up! Give the bloody forwards passes forward!! Eventually then one of their shots might go in. Need to stop over complicating things The longer we don’t press these teams, the lower our confidence will be 🙄 By the way this post is more about frustration - I get it might be harder in practice to get the team to do this! I wonder what they’re getting told to do though Absolutely. And whatever they're being told to do ain't working. It's jaw-dropping that all of us on here know that, but the powers that be don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Needs to pull his socks up and get angry. Also needs to ask the manager to play another striker alongside him perhaps? But I see no sign that he is forming any sort of partnership with any of our other strikers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Needs to pull his socks up and get angry. Also needs to ask the manager to play another striker alongside him perhaps? But I see no sign that he is forming any sort of partnership with any of our other strikers... Throw fitba boots round the dressing room, 😵 or maybe not, not pc these days lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 He would ironically do better with someone up beside him like Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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