Hearts transfers (Cochrane goes on loan to Montrose)

[Agentjambo]

1 minute ago, Vlad the impaler said:

You think? Duh🤤

Aye 👍

[wavydavy]

13 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

League 1 salary now averages £1700pw with League 2 at £1000pw. Existing contracts honoured but all new ones must be included in the cap calculation. We can now pay much more than League 1 & 2 clubs. If Norwood is out of contract we should be  able to give him a much better salary than any club in Leagues 1 and 2 

 

As far as I know he has a contract until 2022.

[HMFC01]

6 minutes ago, wavydavy said:

 

As far as I know he has a contract until 2022.

 

That link I posted claims he's getting paid £1700 x 5 = £8500 round abouts, plus bonuses on a 2 year contract, with no obligation to reduce it under the new salary cap.  Until he's out of contract or he signs a new contract it says the same.

 

So unless the club want him out which I can't see, or he wants out, I don't know why he would leave.  Can't find a reason.  I do realise the club wont release all the facts about their players, so there could be something.

[AlphonseCapone]

Ah the usual, you're not ITK seethe. Folk post stuff, if it turns out to be wrong then get over it. Stop reading JKB as though it's a scientific journal. Bizarre how salty folk get about other folk being ITK or not. 

[Barack]

Would much rather we talk about other players we won't get, like Norwood for example. Rather than ex-Hearts kids, that folk were glad to see the back of.

 

 

[Beast Boy]

5 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said:

Ah the usual, you're not ITK seethe. Folk post stuff, if it turns out to be wrong then get over it. Stop reading JKB as though it's a scientific journal. Bizarre how salty folk get about other folk being ITK or not. 

Totally. Clearly a couple of returnees too. 😄

[BackOfTheNet]

4 minutes ago, Barack said:

Would much rather we talk about other players we won't get, like Norwood for example. Rather than ex-Hearts kids, that folk were glad to see the back of.

 

 

[hmfc_liam06]

I'd be amazed if we're after both Cummings and Norwood when we already have Boyce and Naismith.

[kingantti1874]

13 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said:

Ah the usual, you're not ITK seethe. Folk post stuff, if it turns out to be wrong then get over it. Stop reading JKB as though it's a scientific journal. Bizarre how salty folk get about other folk being ITK or not. 

yep. Bizarre behaviour 

[kingantti1874]

13 minutes ago, Barack said:

Would much rather we talk about other players we won't get, like Norwood for example. Rather than ex-Hearts kids, that folk were glad to see the back of.

 

 

we weren’t glad to see the back of Cummings. 

[Barack]

1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said:

I wasn't glad to see the back of Cummings. 

Ftfy.

[dazajmbo]

8 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

I'd be amazed if we're after both Cummings and Norwood when we already have Boyce and Naismith.

 

I dont believe we will sign both, I know we are in talks with representatives from both, but I would imagine that we have a preferred option. Naismith won't be used as a striker next season if we get another striker in he will be dropping deeper.

[Tasavallan]

2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

we weren’t glad to see the back of Cummings. 

Correct.  He was never a Hearts player to start with.  He only came of interest when Butcher pulled out of the Hibs EOS squad.

 

What is our opinion of Doig at the Hobos?

[kingantti1874]

4 minutes ago, Barack said:

Ftfy.

Well no, absolute nonsense to suggest any hearts fan at the time was glad to see the back of him. We released him when he had a bad injury when we couldnt afford to pay for his treatment. 

Edited August 16, 2020 by kingantti1874

[kingantti1874]

Just now, Tasavallan said:

Correct.  He was never a Hearts player to start with.  He only came of interest when Butcher pulled out of the Hibs EOS squad.

 

What is our opinion of Doig at the Hobos?

bad mistake releasing him 

[Barack]

Just now, kingantti1874 said:

Well no, absolute nonsense to suggest any hearts fan at the time was glad to see the back of him. We realeased him when he had a bad injury when we couldnt afford to pay for his treatment. 

Not really. I never missed him. Don't miss him now. And couldn't care if he re-signed or not.

 

 

[TypoonJambo]

3 minutes ago, dazajmbo said:

 

I dont believe we will sign both, I know we are in talks with representatives from both, but I would imagine that we have a preferred option. Naismith won't be used as a striker next season if we get another striker in he will be dropping deeper.

If we get Norwood I'll be suprised. 

[kingantti1874]

Just now, Barack said:

Not really. I never missed him. Don't miss him now. And couldn't care if he re-signed or not.

 

 

You watched him as a youth did you? You knew all about him? I very much doubt you even knew he existed. 

[Barack]

Just now, kingantti1874 said:

You watched him as a youth did you? You knew all about him? I very much doubt you even knew he existed. 

You his Dad?  ****ing hell. All our woes started when Jason left. 

 

 

 

[heartened]

For me the best thing Cummings has done is miss a penalty!

[Leveins Battalion]

I think we should just sign 10 strikers and Gordon.

 

**** the centre midfielder we have been looking for since Paul Hartley.🤣

[kingantti1874]

3 minutes ago, Barack said:

You his Dad?  ****ing hell. All our woes started when Jason left. 

 

 

 

Na, I’m just calling you out for talking bullshit.. what was it about his game or character that made you glad we released him at 16.🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂 load of ****ing shite, never heard as single hearts fan say “ glad we got rid of that kid Cummings” 😂

 

in fact - when he was scoring roughly 1 in every 2 games for the hobos most were questioning why the **** we’d released another goal scorer.

 

just say you don’t want to sign him now, that’s fine - an absolutely valid opinion.. don’t ****ing make out we were all delighted when he got a cruciate and was picked up by HV. That’s bollocks

Edited August 16, 2020 by kingantti1874

[Vlad the impaler]

13 minutes ago, dazajmbo said:

 

I dont believe we will sign both, I know we are in talks with representatives from both, but I would imagine that we have a preferred option. Naismith won't be used as a striker next season if we get another striker in he will be dropping deeper.

Is Cummings still represented by that parasite agent orange? If hearts really wants him I think he’d jump at it

[Barack]

1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said:

Na, I’m just calling you out for talking bullshit.. what was it about his game or character that made you glad we released him at 16.🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂 load of ****ing shite, never heard as single hearts fan say “ glad we got rid of that kid Cummings” 😂

 

in fact - when he was scoring roughly 1 in every 2 games for the hobos most were questioning why the **** we’d released another goal scorer.

 

just say you don’t want to sign him now, that’s fine - an absolutely valid opinion.. don’t ****ing make out we were all delighted when he got a cruciate and was picked up by HV. That’s bollocks

You're the one that's jumped to his defence, assuming I'm meaning Cummings. 

 

I never missed him. That's factual. Never followed Hearts' kids in my life. Like a lot of Hearts fans. They come through...folk hear of them. Hearts bin them...sometimes we do, or don't. Usually folk that know youth leagues, or family members/mates( of which I'm sure Jason has many of on here) keep the forum updated, like FF for example:  tell us all "He's doing well." Or: "Oh, should've kept X, Y or Z". 

 

Then 3 years down the line: "Oh, X, Y & Z are available...should go for him. Never should've let him go."

 

I've met him a couple of times. But that's by the by. 

[cocobeab]

One things for sure we cannot make the mistake of depending on Naismith (and now Boyce) remining injury free. 

 

Wighton, McLean and Uche just didn't cut it as stand in's. The championship might not be as high a level but we'll still need a decent strike force on the park every game. 

 

[Alex Kintner]

[davemclaren]

2 minutes ago, cocobeab said:

One things for sure we cannot make the mistake of depending on Naismith (and now Boyce) remining injury free. 

 

Wighton, McLean and Uche just didn't cut it as stand in's. The championship might not be as high a level but we'll still need a decent strike force on the park every game. 

 

Where’s James Keatings these days? 😎

[Alex Kintner]

Personally the only thing I associate with 2012 is the loss of Cummings. Nothing else sticks in my memory from that year.

[Alan_R]

5 minutes ago, cocobeab said:

One things for sure we cannot make the mistake of depending on Naismith (and now Boyce) remining injury free. 

 

Wighton, McLean and Uche just didn't cut it as stand in's. The championship might not be as high a level but we'll still need a decent strike force on the park every game. 

 

This. We were fortunate zeefuik done us such a great turn. Had goals from keatings and hard to remember but even el hassanoui scored 4.

 

Plus walker and paterson chipping in.

[Garrincha]

We are going to be on the front foot, dominating games next season, so we certainly need plenty of forward options. At least two more forwards required, especially when injuries and suspensions hit. We don’t want to be relying on Henderson, if Naismith and Boyce are unavailable. They two won’t manage 90 mins in all 27 league games!

[Roxy Hearts]

Cummings is a goalscorer and a Hearts fan, so he knows what it means to us. Rather have him than some of the dross that got us where we are! The more "Hearts" people the better as they understand that beautiful maroon jersey. 

[BackOfTheNet]

I really don’t think people are getting that when people say they don’t want us to sign Cummings or that we don’t need to sign Cummings specifically that it’s not the same as saying we don’t need back for two forwards. Of course no squad can rely on two players (even for a season that’s 3/4 of its usual length) to play 90 minutes up front. It’s just some people don’t see the point in the expenditure on someone like Cummings when there will be other options that will be a better fit in terms of financially, squad harmony, long or short term needs and abilities required. And of course some people just don’t want him specifically to sign, doesn’t mean they don’t see the need for more forwards at the club.

[BackOfTheNet]

1 minute ago, Roxy Hearts said:

Cummings is a goalscorer and a Hearts fan, so he knows what it means to us. Rather have him than some of the dross that got us where we are! The more "Hearts" people the better as they understand that beautiful maroon jersey. 

I get that it’s great for players to know what it means to pull on the maroon, but as Skacel, Adam, Quitongo etc will tell you you don’t have to born and raised in Edinburgh or have 6 degrees of separation from someone to ‘get’ the club. By the logic you’ve stated we should’ve hung onto Morrison? Levein should still be in charge? He was after all at one point manager of the national team and had successful spells in the past and a Hearts man through and through... I do get that clubs enjoy the ‘one of our own’ thing and it genuinely is nice to see. But personally I don’t like seeing players like Walker get very little grief for substandard performances when players who have contributed far more than he did last season get the “good riddance” chat, and that’s what that logic gets you.

[DC_92]

1 hour ago, soonbe110 said:

League 1 salary now averages £1700pw with League 2 at £1000pw. Existing contracts honoured but all new ones must be included in the cap calculation. We can now pay much more than League 1 & 2 clubs. If Norwood is out of contract we should be  able to give him a much better salary than any club in Leagues 1 and 2 

 

He does have an existing contract for the next two years, so if Ipswich let him go then they'd probably have to replace him with someone much cheaper for the reasons you just gave.

 

Cummings seems like a more realistic shout.

[OTT]

12 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said:

Cummings is a goalscorer and a Hearts fan, so he knows what it means to us. Rather have him than some of the dross that got us where we are! The more "Hearts" people the better as they understand that beautiful maroon jersey. 

 

He's going to have a fire under his arse from day 1 which couldn't be better. 

 

He knows damn well his antics at Hibs haven't endeared him to the support, but its well known he was brought up a Jambo so there is section of the support willing to give him a chance on that basis. I think he'd be looking to make an impact from day one. I think one of the few things we as a support demand is players that give their all. Its not much to ask for, and I think Cummings would be coming in with that attitude. He's got a point to prove. We all saw that when he was at Hibs, a man possessed. He was so motivated to get it up us for releasing him. I think the same motivation would be there to prove he deserves to be here. 

 

We already have Boyce and Naisy, we can't afford to be running 3 strikers of that standard, we've never actually had that kind of quality upfront for years, so expecting a 3rd in that same bracket is madness. Cummings would be about the highest level/wage bracket I could see us getting for a back up striker, and I think he'd be pushing Boyce all the way for that starting slot too. 

 

I'm excited by the prospect, here's hoping. 

[skinnybob72]

My youngest follows Ipswich and I took him to a few games last season in which Norwood played. He seemed to be what Ipswich were missing - someone to put the ball in the net, or hold the ball up to create chances for others. They started the season well, were top after a dozen to 15 games and Norwood was scoring goals. 

 

Then Ipswich pretty much imploded, I'm sure they ended up 9th when the season was ended, and Norwood had been injured and gone off the boil completely. It was almost like watching Hearts 2 seasons ago - form in the second half of the season was relegation form. The fans think much the same of Lambert as we did of Levein. 

 

However, I think Norwood is on decent money at Ipswich, he's the 'main man' as far as the fans are concerned - and if Ipswich can actually play to their potential they are one of the favorites to be promoted to the Championship. I just don't see him swapping that for a curtailed Scottish Championship - but would love to see it happen. 

 

 

[Siphiwe Tshabalala]

On 06/08/2020 at 09:41, BackOfTheNet said:

Grinds my gears to be honest. Follow a few players on Instagram and I see a lot of them busting a gut working out and all he does is play golf every second day. Now of course he’s entitled to and maybe works out plenty without it being filmed and that, but he’s never been the fittest and especially since he’s come back he’s incredibly slow. I suppose I don’t like how he seems to get a free pass from the support. Someone has accused another player for being lazy because in one particular game he didn’t track back - that’s Walker every game yet people never call him lazy. So I guess my golf jibes are to help balance out the criticism more fairly across the team.

Would love us to sign Cummings.

[crunchy frog]

This just popped up on my Flipboard phone app. I feel violated I'll need to look at the settings to prevent this happening again. Sneaky *******s though.

Edited August 16, 2020 by crunchy frog

[JJ93]

19 minutes ago, crunchy frog said:

This just popped up on my Flipboard phone app. I feel violated I'll need to look at the settings to prevent this happening again. Sneaky *******s though.

What does "hail hail" actually mean to these tim scum?

[gov]

The fighting on here is mental 🤦‍♂️ 

[chuck berrys hairline]

14 minutes ago, JJ93 said:

What does "hail hail" actually mean to these tim scum?

Irish for "heil heil"

[Doctor Laxslax]

45 minutes ago, gov said:

The fighting on here is mental 🤦‍♂️ 

Yeah.

The amount of numpties here who spout complete bollocks before retreating back under their rock with a whimper once called out, often uttering nonsensical shite and not addressing the point as they do so, is absurd.

Edited August 16, 2020 by Doctor Laxslax

[jamboinglasgow]

Can imagine if this week is the same as the last two weeks, then there will be some movement with the squad this week. From how close Uche's exit is, I can see that confirmed next few days. Possibly movement on Hickey. Have no inside info just guessing

[SomethingAboutObua]

Uche's exit seems to be taking a while considering he's meant to have had his physical already, is it happening or what?

[J.T.F.Robertson]

3 hours ago, JJ93 said:

What does "hail hail" actually mean to these tim scum?

 

A precursor to "the Pope's in jail"? 

 

[JCR]

4 hours ago, Roxy Hearts said:

Cummings is a goalscorer and a Hearts fan, so he knows what it means to us. Rather have him than some of the dross that got us where we are! The more "Hearts" people the better as they understand that beautiful maroon jersey. 

It’s also not exactly a secret he’s a ned and would be disruptive. 
 

Trusting Cummings to stick to strict lockdown rules would be shooting ourselves in the foot. 

[Aussie Jambo]

5 hours ago, Roxy Hearts said:

Cummings is a goalscorer and a Hearts fan, so he knows what it means to us. Rather have him than some of the dross that got us where we are! The more "Hearts" people the better as they understand that beautiful maroon jersey. 

💯% spot on.. (good Jambo and he will rise to being back at Hearts.)

 

 

[Leveins Battalion]

 

Have a feeling this is Cumdog week.

 

😂

[BackOfTheNet]

5 hours ago, SomethingAboutObua said:

Uche's exit seems to be taking a while considering he's meant to have had his physical already, is it happening or what?

Simply put it’s the weekend. It’s my biggest bug bear about the transfer window, either club officials or league associations that register players don’t operate at the weekend so you don’t see business get done. Makes no sense whatsoever given that it’s by design a limited time period so you’d think for that limited time period there would be operations in place for 7 days a week, but no. (Sometimes players will be announced on a weekend after signing before, and of course there’s always some exceptions) It’s even worse in January as you lose up to 8 days out of 31 and a 4 week window really only becomes a 3 week window. Does my head in as it defies all logic.

Edited August 17, 2020 by BackOfTheNet

[crunchy frog]

8 hours ago, JJ93 said:

What does "hail hail" actually mean to these tim scum?

Paedophilic code. 

You can normally spot the wrong uns on Twitter cos they've all names like 67bhoy or some similar  pathetic mixture.

Anyway my point was Hickey to anybody but those ****ing reptiles.