Taffin Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I've not really kept up with this but I thought the voting in the top league was an 11 and 1 split? Was the 11/1 use to ratify the change to the different ratio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Mikey1874 said: The main thing is SPFL want to force this through. Lots of clubs - not just the No voters want a full, detailed discussion on coming to a consensus. The clubs have had 2 or 3 days to consider. It's a farce of a situation, clear as day that Peter Lawell is at the forefront of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Michael Stewart talking a lot of sense here. Release the money now then worry about a resolution. A 120 page document presented to the clubs on Wednesday and expected to vote on it within 2 days. Except it turns out they really had 28 days to vote on it! And Hearts managed to **** up their own no vote at their first attempt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: No, Sky and other broadcasters will not let a voided season lie. So they need us to crown Celtic champions but they don't need us to relegate someone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: So our vote got lost too at mid day or somebody didn’t press the send button?😂😂 Its all laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: The failed chippy owner was just schooled again. The one person who seems to back the SPFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stotty Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 How thick is Willie Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Jersey_HMFC Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Using the prize money to hold a gun to the heads of the clubs is scandalous, just pay it out based on current positions (qualified by the proviso that it doesn’t mean champions/promotions/relegations) and THEN have a discussion about how to resolve this season- which does not need to be rushed right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Looks like there was a **** up with our vote too, we thought we voted at 12pm and then the SPFL said it hadn’t received it and it was then sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Michael Stewart fighting our corner even Kenny Miller agrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Michael Stewart talking a lot of sense here. Release the money now then worry about a resolution. A 120 page document presented to the clubs on Wednesday and expected to vote on it within 2 days. Except it turns out they really had 28 days to vote on it! And Hearts managed to **** up their own no vote at their first attempt! Not sure what form the votes take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: Sportsound saying that Dundee voted no. Signed slip seen by presenter This gets more farcical by the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, stotty said: How thick is Willie Miller. Deliberately thick when it comes to not getting his own way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Taffin said: I've not really kept up with this but I thought the voting in the top league was an 11 and 1 split? Was the 11/1 use to ratify the change to the different ratio? That’s only for reconstruction and other stuff 🤷🏾♂️, not this though 🤔. Just another layer of shambolic rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Shanks said: So they need us to crown Celtic champions but they don't need us to relegate someone? Look mate, let's just end our thread here. This season will not be completed , ever. That means any outcome is going to be unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Michael Stewart fighting our corner even Kenny Miller agrees. Kenny is a wee bit thick though...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Michael Stewart starting to make the point this will cause long term damage. The clubs losing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Funny how it seems to be the no votes that are causing technical difficulties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) Scott Gardner who signed the Inverness No vote on now. About to give full time line. Edited April 11, 2020 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: So they reckon told people they were voting No, sent in a slip saying No, says skip has been seen, SPFL said it didn’t receive it. Dundee then asked for their vote to be ignored. aye right. got their slip made the threatening call and Dundee say "aye, ok, we'll change our vote, just say it got lost in the post. no-one will ever know" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSK Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Brechin city not being punished but Hearts, Patrick and Stranraer are... I wonder why 🤔 Perhaps Brechin City chairman and SPFL board member Ken Ferguson would be able to shed some light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Willie Miller wont see anything unusual in missing emails. A bit like missing invoices and final demands Willie? Amirite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 The seat forgetter making some good points too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: They got the email. Partick and Inverness would be more obvious No voters. Dundee would the obvious one to go back to and negotiate with. Sorry Mikey I get your drift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Pasquale for King said: That’s only for reconstruction and other stuff 🤷🏾♂️, not this though 🤔. Just another layer of shambolic rules. Who decided what it does and doesn't apply to? I thought the SPFL was the clubs...and for them to have their say in the top league it needs 11 in agreement. Anyway, thanks for the response, I'm sure this has been done to the death and I've just missed it all. Cheers 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Heartsofgold said: Look mate, let's just end our thread here. This season will not be completed , ever. That means any outcome is going to be unfair. Yea I get that but my suggestion of calling the season as it is and no relegation seemed like a decent option to me! Agreed that any outcome won't be fair for everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 scott gardner has got a list of who voted and when they voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Shanks said: Yea I get that but my suggestion of calling the season as it is and no relegation seemed like a decent option to me! Agreed that any outcome won't be fair for everyone My only issue with it is that there can be no Scottish reps in Europe if we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Scott Gardner says unwilling to vote to cause financial harm to any club (Dundee's point in their statement). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, The Old Tolbooth said: I can understand St Mirren and Hamilton voting for it, and even Aberdeen as they would secure a Euro spot, also Celtic. What I can’t understand is why Dundee Utd, Hibs, Inverness, and Motherwell would vote for it unless they’ve been offered cash to vote that way, this absolutely stinks to the high heavens! Dundee Utd are the worst for me, they could have voted against the proposals knowing full well it doesn’t even affect them as they’re going to be promoted anyway, they would have even saved some integrity of Scottish football! Hibs will lose out on derby cash, and that’s a lot of money for them, so they voted against us out of sheer bitterness imo, Inverness are the turkeys voting for Xmas, because they’ve just voted to stay down when they could have gone up if the leagues were to reconstruct, utter madness, and Motherwell would be in the Dundee Utd camp because nothing would affect them. If this transpires that we go down as a result of the way this has been done, then I’m not just finished with away grounds, I won’t put another penny into Scottish football and I hope they go bust, they absolutely deserve to! Just realised I’ve messed that up as Inverness voted against the proposal, the rest of my points still stand though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Shanks said: So sky have said they are going to ask for all their money back unless we give Celtic the title? Why would they even care about that? . If Sky did demand all their money back because it was a void season, surely subscribers would be able to do the same and demand their money back from Sky on the same basis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Taffin said: Who decided what it does and doesn't apply to? I thought the SPFL was the clubs...and for them to have their say in the top league it needs 11 in agreement. Anyway, thanks for the response, I'm sure this has been done to the death and I've just missed it all. Cheers 👍 So this is all I can find, this was before the playoffs were brought in. It must’ve been changed at some point after this. I’m sure someone will know. Here’s FF on it. Edited April 11, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, milky_26 said: scott gardner has got a list of who voted and when they voted Says Partick, Inverness and Dundee discussed voting No. Even yesterday morning. And they would share their votes. Edited April 11, 2020 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sidious Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 This guy could have explosive documentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Scott Gardiner didn't want to make a decision that would financially hurt another member club. If only others had that selfless point of view eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) Inverness got Dundee's No vote. 16.24pm. And their statement. Edited April 11, 2020 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 45 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Hearts have beaten Hibs in any game that’s really mattered ever. It’s no opinion, it’s fact. And shiting it from them isn’t on the agenda. Wouldn’t be shitting it but you’d be stupid to think we would not be going into a hastily arranged game in a state of serious change whereas our opponents would be as per and this would all be due to this decision to expel Hearts from league without a chance to play out the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phage Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Realistically, whatever is decided now will change dramatic before the crisis ends. 3 SPL clubs too go bust? What then? They still going to relegate us? Its early doors folks... and even if we do start next up in the championship, we will come back up easily enough. Some clubs I'm certain just wont be around. Then will we need dramatic top to bottom league reconstruction? Maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Says Partick, Inverness and Dundee discussed voting No. 14.52 partick voted, 16.24 dundee voted, 16.39 ICT voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolkeith Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Popcorn stuff this., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 This is an unbelievable account of events! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 16.52 dundee confirm they had voted in message to ICT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 16.52 Dundee club Secretary "DFC vote submitted". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Scott Gardiner very interesting and sounding very stressed telling the truth on the radio. Saying Dundee sent their voting slip along with Partick and Inverness. So voting for the proposition would have failed. Something really weird going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Dundee have voted no. There is evidence that this is the case. That is it. Done and dusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, milky_26 said: 14.52 partick voted, 16.24 dundee voted, 16.39 ICT voted And then another email circulated from Dundee confirming vote. Edited April 11, 2020 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 This whole thing stinks to high heaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos56 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 This is gold dust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 ****ing hell this is incredible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Loving this. We MUST take this to court! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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