Absolute Scenes Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 23 hours ago, indianajones said: Boyce is exactly the type of player we have been missing for many years. Build a team with guys with his mentality and you cant go far wrong. Hundred percent. Think I’ve seen him say he wants to stay? Right away he’s showing he doesn’t care where we are, he just wants to play for us. Saw someone say “he’s really set the heather on fire eh?” We are not going to be in a position to attract decent strikers of his calibre with all going on so I think they don’t realise we have a pretty clinical striker on our hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Hundred percent. Think I’ve seen him say he wants to stay? Right away he’s showing he doesn’t care where we are, he just wants to play for us. Saw someone say “he’s really set the heather on fire eh?” We are not going to be in a position to attract decent strikers of his calibre with all going on so I think they don’t realise we have a pretty clinical striker on our hands I don’t think he said he actually wants to stay. I personally think he will leave - cannot not justify even 50% of his wages whilst in the Championship Edited May 21, 2020 by PTBCAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Lewis Moore offered new deal - pleased for this lad. Regardless of which league we will be in, this lad is going to kick on. He’s a prime example of working hard, being through the pain of losing a close loved one, and getting through that and being rewarded for his hard work. A certain few senior players could learn a few things form him. Well done Lewis, excited to see you kick on for us Tragic personal circumstances but zero evidence whatsoever of Lewis Moore being capable of kicking on... not remotely good enough for a competent Hearts side. Hopefully, just a 12 month deal before inevitably being released, although good to know that our finances are in a robustly healthy state if we feel that we are in a position to hand out new contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulf Jambo Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Just now, David McCaig said: Tragic personal circumstances but zero evidence whatsoever of Lewis Moore being capable of kicking on... not remotely good enough for a competent Hearts side. Hopefully, just a 12 month deal before inevitably being released, although good to know that our finances are in a robustly healthy state if we feel that we are in a position to hand out new contracts. On the contrary, with his past scoring record at higher levels it could be very worth it. If he scores 20+ goals min (which I would expect in that league from him), then it is worthwhile as it would see us back up most likely. Good reliable goalscorers are rare and worth every penny in a promotion race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Just now, Gulf Jambo said: On the contrary, with his past scoring record at higher levels it could be very worth it. If he scores 20+ goals min (which I would expect in that league from him), then it is worthwhile as it would see us back up most likely. Good reliable goalscorers are rare and worth every penny in a promotion race ?? I’m assuming this isn’t Lewis Moore you are talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: I don’t think he said he actually wants to stay. I personally think he will leave - cannot not justify even 50% of his wages whilst in the Championship Expect him to go also, for same reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, David McCaig said: Tragic personal circumstances but zero evidence whatsoever of Lewis Moore being capable of kicking on... not remotely good enough for a competent Hearts side. Hopefully, just a 12 month deal before inevitably being released, although good to know that our finances are in a robustly healthy state if we feel that we are in a position to hand out new contracts. Slightly harsh, as he has only really got into the starting 11 and I’ve seen enough to know he’s definitely improved from when he first started playing. So saying zero evidence doesn’t justify that as being correct. There’s plenty evidence from seeing him play that he would be good for us down the flank i think people need to realise we may need to implement ore youth in the next season regardless of which league we are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, PTBCAL said: I don’t think he said he actually wants to stay. I personally think he will leave - cannot not justify even 50% of his wages whilst in the Championship I am clinging on to the glass being half full 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: I see Danny Baur and Kelby Mason have been released. Best of luck to them. I would like to see us trim the squads enough that we have a clear pathway for talented young players to get into the first team. After 2017/18 season where we were too short in numbers and had to heavily use youth, we went that compete opposite way since and became badly bloated. At the moment I have the following players out of contract this summer Donis Avdijaj Oliver Bozanic Jamie Brandon - offered a new contract Rory Currie Euan Henderson Marcel Langer Steven MacLean Lewis Moore - offered a new contract Jamin Nwanze Alex Petkov Dean Ritchie Jay Sandison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 18/05/2020 at 16:58, kila said: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-united-joel-pereira-transfer-18269572 Manchester United player set to be recalled from loan Man Utd goalkeeper Joel Pereira had spent the season on loan with Hearts in the Scottish Premiership. Just seen this. Made my day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Slightly harsh, as he has only really got into the starting 11 and I’ve seen enough to know he’s definitely improved from when he first started playing. So saying zero evidence doesn’t justify that as being correct. There’s plenty evidence from seeing him play that he would be good for us down the flank i think people need to realise we may need to implement ore youth in the next season regardless of which league we are He's 22, not really a youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, David McCaig said: Tragic personal circumstances but zero evidence whatsoever of Lewis Moore being capable of kicking on... not remotely good enough for a competent Hearts side. Hopefully, just a 12 month deal before inevitably being released, although good to know that our finances are in a robustly healthy state if we feel that we are in a position to hand out new contracts. Plenty evidence he's good enough for a Championship Hearts side though. Very low risk and low cost - retaining him makes total sense. He's Billy King level for me, but with a bit more about him in terms of his all round play. King put in decent shifts for us in the Premiership under Locke and was very useful in the Championship without being a first pick. Like everyone at Hearts right now, he needs to add goals. Edited May 21, 2020 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Best of luck to them. I would like to see us trim the squads enough that we have a clear pathway for talented young players to get into the first team. After 2017/18 season where we were too short in numbers and had to heavily use youth, we went that compete opposite way since and became badly bloated. At the moment I have the following players out of contract this summer Donis Avdijaj Oliver Bozanic Jamie Brandon - offered a new contract Rory Currie Euan Henderson Marcel Langer Steven MacLean Lewis Moore - offered a new contract Jamin Nwanze Alex Petkov Dean Ritchie Jay Sandison I wouldn't re sign any these players for next season I would be adding this for the exit door. ( except Moore and Brandon who have already been offered contracts ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 We need to do everything to keep Boyce next season. He's worth 25-30 goals at the level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Best of luck to them. I would like to see us trim the squads enough that we have a clear pathway for talented young players to get into the first team. After 2017/18 season where we were too short in numbers and had to heavily use youth, we went that compete opposite way since and became badly bloated. At the moment I have the following players out of contract this summer Donis Avdijaj Oliver Bozanic Jamie Brandon - offered a new contract Rory Currie Euan Henderson Marcel Langer Steven MacLean Lewis Moore - offered a new contract Jamin Nwanze Alex Petkov Dean Ritchie Jay Sandison Don't know too much about the younger lads on that list. But Bozanic would stroll the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, PTBCAL said: I don’t think he said he actually wants to stay. I personally think he will leave - cannot not justify even 50% of his wages whilst in the Championship See a don't agree with that because to be promoted you need a striker who'll score loads of goals and Boyce will in my opinion! Just look at shankland for Dundee utd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Plenty evidence he's good enough for a Championship Hearts side though. Very low risk and low cost - retaining him makes total sense. He's Billy King level for me, but with a bit more about him in terms of his all round play. King put in decent shifts for us in the Premiership under Locke and was very useful in the Championship without being a first pick. Like everyone at Hearts right now, he needs to add goals. I agree that Billy King wasn't quite good enough, but had achieved far more at this stage of his career than Moore... David Smith is a better comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: See a don't agree with that because to be promoted you need a striker who'll score loads of goals and Boyce will in my opinion! Just look at shankland for Dundee utd We did ok last time with our top scorer finishing on 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, David McCaig said: I agree that Billy King wasn't quite good enough, but had achieved far more at this stage of his career than Moore... David Smith is a better comparison. I thought Moore showed a lot of promise under Stendel. He seemed to have bulked up a lot compared two when he first broke into the team. The key to getting the most out of any of our youngsters though is to have the right experienced players around them. It's been that way going back to when Robbo, Bowman and Mackay broke through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, David McCaig said: We did ok last time with our top scorer finishing on 12. Yeah but we had plenty goals in other areas of the team last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, David McCaig said: He's 22, not really a youth. Young then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Who is making the decisions on these players? Stendel is out of contract so presumably not him. Can it be any of Levein, MacPhee, Murray or Foxy? Or is Andy Kirk now running the show? I think there are going to be many players with more to offer than Moore available soon so why rush to offer him a contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Coco said: Who is making the decisions on these players? Stendel is out of contract so presumably not him. Can it be any of Levein, MacPhee, Murray or Foxy? Or is Andy Kirk now running the show? I think there are going to be many players with more to offer than Moore available soon so why rush to offer him a contract? Stendel is out of contract? He's not taking a wage but still employed by us as things stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennyjambo22 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Who is, as has been pointed out DS is technically no longer employed by HMFC is making the decisions on releasing players and offering extensions at this time? I don’t see it being AB herself, so are the soon to be departed joint directors of football Meddling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 4 hours ago, pennyjambo22 said: Who is, as has been pointed out DS is technically no longer employed by HMFC is making the decisions on releasing players and offering extensions at this time? I don’t see it being AB herself, so are the soon to be departed joint directors of football Meddling? 18 hours ago, Coco said: Who is making the decisions on these players? Stendel is out of contract so presumably not him. Can it be any of Levein, MacPhee, Murray or Foxy? Or is Andy Kirk now running the show? I think there are going to be many players with more to offer than Moore available soon so why rush to offer him a contract? John Murray and Liam Fox I suspect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 41 minutes ago, jbee647 said: John Murray and Liam Fox I suspect nothing can go wrong there then...🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 17 players released by Dunfermline...and now we will truly see the impact of Covid to follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 On 13/05/2020 at 10:55, David McCaig said: Craig WIghton is more than capable of scoring 20 goals in a Championship season. He is obviously a guy with a lot of a talent and equally fragile confidence... a duck shoot in the Championship may actually be exactly what his career needs. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, David McCaig said: 😎 👏 Early days though. 2 pens and a decent 3rd goal last night but have raith added much in the way of improved players for the step up from league 1 to championship? Don't know much about them but they may well have pretty much same squad that played in league 1 last year. 25 games before Wighton scored his first hearts goals so I'm not getting too carried away by your 20 goal prediction for him just yet. Hope he does it though as that'll mean he's turned it around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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