Voiceofreasonfortheseason Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 On 16/05/2020 at 11:12, Rooster20 said: Yep this is correct, I like Stendel and don't really blame him for our relegation but for a variety of reasons it just wasn't working. I think if the circumstances had been different he would've been a huge success but unfortunately we weren't playing well. Rangers had collapsed and theirs a reason they are now 13 pts behind Celtic. As for Hibs well, they are a joke of a club who we always do well against. Although it is ironic that our best manager of the last 5 years was the only one that couldn't beat them. What manager are you referring to?? Quote
Randy Marsh Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Voiceofreasonfortheseason said: What manager are you referring to?? Assume he means Neilson but we did beat them in the Championship first derby. Even then he never faced them as a manager in the top flight. Quote
Randy Marsh Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Interesting interview from Paulo Sergio recently. This guy just gets Hearts. I know he is at Portimonense at the moment but maybe he fancies another shot with us. He would surely galvanise the support. I would like to think he would get a response next time if he did express an interest. Unlike last time where that prick Levein just couldn't comprehend a winner and cult hero being the manager. Quote
Voiceofreasonfortheseason Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said: Assume he means Neilson but we did beat them in the Championship first derby. Even then he never faced them as a manager in the top flight. To say Neilson had a worse record against Hibs than Cathro and even Stendel is just typical of the nonsense on here. Not saying I was a Robbie lover but of folk are going to come out with stuff let's have the right facts behind it. Quote
One five Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said: Interesting interview from Paulo Sergio recently. This guy just gets Hearts. I know he is at Portimonense at the moment but maybe he fancies another shot with us. He would surely galvanise the support. I would like to think he would get a response next time if he did express an interest. Unlike last time where that prick Levein just couldn't comprehend a winner and cult hero being the manager. If DS goes I would be more than happy Sergio back at Tynecastle he is a proper football man and a true gentleman . Legend! Quote
Agentjambo Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, One five said: If DS goes I would be more than happy Sergio back at Tynecastle he is a proper football man and a true gentleman . Legend! What does a proper football man mean? Quote
Pasquale for King Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Randy Marsh said: Assume he means Neilson but we did beat them in the Championship first derby. Even then he never faced them as a manager in the top flight. Yeah and it took a screamer from Ozturk not to lose the next derby, another draw and a defeat followed , foa draw and defeat in the cup is a pretty poor record considering they were only a decent Championship side at the time. Quote
One five Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: What does a proper football man mean? A man that has football integrity and knows how to gain respect from the game and gets respect from his players . Quote
Agentjambo Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, One five said: A man that has football integrity and knows how to gain respect from the game and gets respect from his players . How do you know stendel isn't a proper football man? He deserves more time to bring his own players in and stamp his style on his team. Quote
One five Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Just now, Agentjambo said: How do you know stendel isn't a proper football man? He deserves more time to bring his own players in and stamp his style on his team. Did you not read my post properly ? Go back and read it again .the first part of the first line might give you a clue. Quote
Yoda Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Yeah and it took a screamer from Ozturk not to lose the next derby, another draw and a defeat followed , foa draw and defeat in the cup is a pretty poor record considering they were only a decent Championship side at the time. This. 9 minutes ago, underwaterwoodwelder said: Bring back Robbie from Utd. No. See above. We can do much better. Quote
Guest ToqueJambo Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Yeah and it took a screamer from Ozturk not to lose the next derby, another draw and a defeat followed , foa draw and defeat in the cup is a pretty poor record considering they were only a decent Championship side at the time. That's quite the harsh reading that ignores all context. A dramatic point away with 10 men? How terrible - Neilson oot! The defeat that season was in a dead rubber as you know, yet so many lost their shit over it instead of cutting the players some slack for the effort they'd put in all season. That same season Bayern - who had been untouchable all season like us - lost several games after securing their title. The cup game has been done to death. A team of walking wounded in the first game and Hibs still only grabbed a late draw then a narrow defeat in the replay when we were the better team. Hibs were a Championship team paying Premiership wages for Premiership players (like us when we were down there). If we're judging managers on their record in derby games, you'll be wanting Levein or Locke back then? Quote
Pasquale for King Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: That's quite the harsh reading that ignores all context. A dramatic point away with 10 men? How terrible - Neilson oot! The defeat that season was in a dead rubber as you know, yet so many lost their shit over it instead of cutting the players some slack for the effort they'd put in all season. That same season Bayern - who had been untouchable all season like us - lost several games after securing their title. The cup game has been done to death. A team of walking wounded in the first game and Hibs still only grabbed a late draw then a narrow defeat in the replay when we were the better team. Hibs were a Championship team paying Premiership wages for Premiership players (like us when we were down there). If we're judging managers on their record in derby games, you'll be wanting Levein or Locke back then? Just pointing out that he only won one in six, his record against Hibs is one of the reasons folk wanted him out. The game he did win we needed a screamer and a missed penalty to win. As for the dead rubber there’s no such thing against Hibs, he just didn’t get the importance of it, but he had a good record for Utd so maybe understands it better now. A good derby record is a b must, usually we do have but Caaba for instance didn’t.. As for Locke and Levein better managers wouldn’t have seen us relegated at all. Edited May 23, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote
Pasquale for King Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 It looks like Stendel is staying if today’s interview is anything to go by. Quote
Cut The Crap Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: It looks like Stendel is staying if today’s interview is anything to go by. 😕 Quote
NB GIN Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 On 16/05/2020 at 10:35, David Black said: Been saying this since he arrived. There have been spells when he has looked the part but overall he has been a let down and I would get rid as soon as possible. For the salary he is on we could get 2 players who could contribute more and play far more games. Absolute rubbish Quote
NB GIN Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 2 hours ago, underwaterwoodwelder said: Bring back Robbie from Utd. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote
1874robbo Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: It looks like Stendel is staying if today’s interview is anything to go by. I’d be delighted with that. Quote
My half sister Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 I would like Daniel to stay, we cant keep chopping and changing plus we need someone with a positive mentality if we are ever going to challenge celtic Quote
Pasquale for King Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, 1874robbo said: I’d be delighted with that. Me too Quote
JamboGee92 Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Me too Same here. Quote
Penrices left boot Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 Hope it's Stendel. Look forward to the DS out threads tho.. They will Be really different to the Robbie, Cathro and CL ones. Quote
Leveins Battalion Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: Hope it's Stendel. Look forward to the DS out threads tho.. They will Be really different to the Robbie, Cathro and CL ones. Are you saying Cathro and Levein did not deserve them?🤣🤣🤣🙈 Robbies ball was burst. Quote
Kennedy Bakircioglu Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 Stendel was a catastrophic appointment. Absolutely no pedigree to be taking the reigns at Hearts. His communication, tactics and general understanding of the league have all been woeful. Steven Presley for me as the next manager. Quote
kingantti1874 Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Italian Lambretta said: Daniel Stendel or Paulo Sergio? 🙂 Paulo 100% i like Stendel, I feel like his style requires a quality of player we do not have.. my mind was changed after watching Liam Boyce in midfield Quote
GinRummy Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Kennedy Bakircioglu said: Stendel was a catastrophic appointment. Absolutely no pedigree to be taking the reigns at Hearts. His communication, tactics and general understanding of the league have all been woeful. Steven Presley for me as the next manager. Have you paid any attention at all to Presley’s managerial record so far? Quote
kingantti1874 Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Kennedy Bakircioglu said: Stendel was a catastrophic appointment. Absolutely no pedigree to be taking the reigns at Hearts. His communication, tactics and general understanding of the league have all been woeful. Steven Presley for me as the next manager. you did ok up to the last sentence 😂 Quote
pettigrewsstylist Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Italian Lambretta said: Daniel Stendel or Paulo Sergio? 🙂 🤣🤣🤣 Quote
JamboX2 Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) Think there needs to be a step back and think about what Hearts need going forward when it comes to the next manager and viewing it through the prism of Hibs games is narrow minded at the moment. The club are likely going to be: 1. In the Championship 2. Be under financial pressure from a drop down and Covid-19 3. Facing the possibility of an 18 game league (been some talk of a shorter season in the lower leagues), and 4. Redeveloping the squad, potentially on a tight budget. I think DS is rightly looking for whatever the club has previously promised him to be delivered. He got his coaching team after a bit of a delay and by the sounds of it he wants improvements in thr scouting and football management side of things. However, in the year ahead can the club afford all that? If not and he goes I think any appointment needs to be someone used to Scottish football, knows about the teams inside out and can deliver a decent enough side on a budget. Tommy Wright fits that bill but is uninspiring as a choice. Robbie Neilson certainly gets Scottish football but he will be looking to have another go at the top flight rather than coming back to us. Hopefully once the club work out where we will be we will have more of an idea of what next. But I think the job any new manager is facing is pretty daunting given the wider picture and they'll need a bit of patience from the fans to right the ship. Edited May 24, 2020 by JamboX2 Quote
ShedBoy Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 I’m looking forward to seeing what a DS Hearts side will look like once he has HIS players coached by HIS staff with zero distractions. I’m more than happy to give this man a fair crack 👍🏻 Quote
busby1985 Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 Stendel is going nowhere. He’s the man for the job. Quote
Agentjambo Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Do you think he will stay Bongo? Quote
Jamhammer Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 2 hours ago, ShedBoy said: I’m looking forward to seeing what a DS Hearts side will look like once he has HIS players coached by HIS staff with zero distractions. I’m more than happy to give this man a fair crack 👍🏻 Where I am Quote
Holyrood_Hearts Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 On 16/05/2020 at 15:31, jake said: I'd disagree. I witnessed him actively when he was on the pitch coach players . Suggesting different approaches. Yes he did go off the boil. But in games he was criticised I thought he brought others things . Just making himself available for link ups etc. Anyway if Stendal leaves who do we go to to pick a new manager. Given that hes under contract and what lies in front would he be worth a punt? I think he also took a lead in speaking to the players during the wage talks. I dunno maybe someone who has more knowledge about the team on here could say if he has the respect needed. He’s not under contract if we’re in the Championship. He can go or we can part ways with him Quote
Holyrood_Hearts Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 11 hours ago, My half sister said: I would like Daniel to stay, we cant keep chopping and changing plus we need someone with a positive mentality if we are ever going to challenge celtic What? Quote
Jocam2325 Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 We need a manager we can afford, a manager who knows Scottish football and a manager who can identify the right sort of players to get us out the Championship or should we be fortunate enough not to be booted out the league a manager who can get the right players in to ensure that we do not find ourselves in the ridiculous position a club with our resources currently finds itself in. Quote
Hearts1975 Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Kennedy Bakircioglu said: Stendel was a catastrophic appointment. Absolutely no pedigree to be taking the reigns at Hearts. His communication, tactics and general understanding of the league have all been woeful. Steven Presley for me as the next manager. Stop talking shite Yours is a catastrophic post Steven Pressley - Away and have a lie down Quote
GinRummy Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 30 minutes ago, Jocam2325 said: We need a manager we can afford, a manager who knows Scottish football and a manager who can identify the right sort of players to get us out the Championship or should we be fortunate enough not to be booted out the league a manager who can get the right players in to ensure that we do not find ourselves in the ridiculous position a club with our resources currently finds itself in. why do we need a manager who knows Scottish football? All types of nationalities get success at all levels in all countries without having any prior knowledge of that particular league. What is so unique about the Scottish Championship that makes folk want someone with that type of prior experience? Quote
Rods Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 I get the vibe from the latest articles that Stendel will stay or leave depending on what division we are in for next season. Premier League he will stay and if it’s the championship he will go. Go get Robbo if Stendel is away and meaning we are in the championship. Quote
Leveins Battalion Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Jocam2325 said: We need a manager we can afford, a manager who knows Scottish football and a manager who can identify the right sort of players to get us out the Championship or should we be fortunate enough not to be booted out the league a manager who can get the right players in to ensure that we do not find ourselves in the ridiculous position a club with our resources currently finds itself in. Stephen Robinson. Its there right in front of us. Quote
munro9 Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: Stephen Robinson. Its there right in front of us. Robinson my arse. Time develop a siege mentality and bringing Robbo back would go some way to doing that! Quote
communist Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 Robbo for me, and sooner rather than later so he has some time to get things sorted. Quote
Leveins Battalion Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, munro9 said: Robinson my arse. Time develop a siege mentality and bringing Robbo back would go some way to doing that! Be happy with either Robbo or Robinson.👍 Imo Stendel wont be here,and really I am not too fussed either way with him. Quote
S Form Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 Can't believe people are suggesting Stephen Pressley. He was far and away the best captain we've had in 40 odd years, but his track record as a manager is absolutely abysmal. It would be a sentimental appointment and one not based on any kind of footballing logic or managerial talent - a complete disaster in the waiting. Quote
Bongo 1874 Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Agentjambo said: Do you think he will stay Bongo? Daniel's intentions are to stay, obviously he is keeping his options open. Daniel is very keen for us to stay in the premiership, as we are far more attractive to players he wants to bring to the club. Edited May 24, 2020 by Bongo 1874 Quote
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