kingantti1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 As someone else said, this is not relegation.. this is an unsporting demotion. If the club will not fight this then real fans must. lets use this to keep a track of no go grounds for hearts fans and document other ideas.. if your happy to meekly roll over please stay on the other thread. Livingston first team in the list - always go to this away game given location.. will NEVER set foot in almondvale again, hearts. Should not entertain any player loans such as bobby burns to Livingston again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Why Livingston? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51 Shirts -Moments in Time Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, stevie1874 said: Why Livingston? club have officially tweeted they will support ending the season early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: Why Livingston? They are voting for the proposal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22games nro Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: As someone else said, this is not relegation.. this is an unsporting demotion. If the club will not fight this then real fans must. lets use this to keep a track of no go grounds for hearts fans and document other ideas.. if your happy to meekly roll over please stay on the other thread. Livingston first team in the list - always go to this away game given location.. will NEVER set foot in almondvale again, hearts. Should not entertain any player loans such as bobby burns to Livingston again.. could not agree more . i'm in let's keep the list of teams on the thread so we have no doubt and never forget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 What about championship grounds where the club has voted for this too? Given we might be headed there. We won't be at Livi for at least another season if things go badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Boycott will never happen because everyone needs to have the same appetite for missing an away game farting against thunder it won't happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flem Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 If we are playing in the championship then any clubs in that division that vote for this proposal should be boycotted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 If we get relegated I will continue to support the team at away grounds in the championship. However, I wont be going to any scummy premiership club that votes to put us down. I hope all Herats fans do like wise. Hamilton, St Mirren, Livingston and any others can die for all I care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, buzzbomb1958 said: Boycott will never happen because everyone needs to have the same appetite for missing an away game farting against thunder it won't happen doesn’t need to be a compete boycott to hurt even if it’s a small gesture - I will take solace from the fact Livingston FC will never see another penny of my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I don't understand that view. The clubs are being forced to vote in their own interests by the SPFL. They need the money, so they are looking after themselves. I can't blame them. We shouldn't even be 12th. This is the fault of the Hearts board that we find ourselves in this position in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 We aren't exactly the old firm with their huge support. It won't hurt much. Clubs are only looking out for themselves. Don't see why people are taking it so personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Homme said: We aren't exactly the old firm with their huge support. It won't hurt much. Clubs are only looking out for themselves. Don't see why people are taking it so personally. Hearts take the equivalent of 8 Livingston home crowds to Almondvale each season!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, David McCaig said: Hearts take the equivalent of 8 Livingston home crowds to Almondvale each season!! Yep, it will hurt them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cruyff said: I don't understand that view. The clubs are being forced to vote in their own interests by the SPFL. They need the money, so they are looking after themselves. I can't blame them. We shouldn't even be 12th. This is the fault of the Hearts board that we find ourselves in this position in the first place. I'm sure the clubs need the money however they will not be getting any of mine. That's the point of the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Homme said: We aren't exactly the old firm with their huge support. It won't hurt much. Clubs are only looking out for themselves. Don't see why people are taking it so personally. Hmm, we sold out stmirren - took 4500 to St Johnston a few weeks ago, regularly sell out Hamilton , and when we were in the championship took 8000 away to Livingston. But that aside.. your entitled to your view, but this thread is to catalogue clubs who have thrown us under a bus for their own financial need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: Yep, it will hurt them. 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogaza Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 It's very unsporting but let's not let this deflect away from the people who have us in this position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: As someone else said, this is not relegation.. this is an unsporting demotion. If the club will not fight this then real fans must. lets use this to keep a track of no go grounds for hearts fans and document other ideas.. if your happy to meekly roll over please stay on the other thread. Livingston first team in the list - always go to this away game given location.. will NEVER set foot in almondvale again, hearts. Should not entertain any player loans such as bobby burns to Livingston again.. Definitely, maybe start a boycott of the teams sponsors as well and see how they like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Homme said: We aren't exactly the old firm with their huge support. It won't hurt much. Clubs are only looking out for themselves. Don't see why people are taking it so personally. There are only so many seats and we consistently sell out the various diddies away ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, EIEIO said: I'm sure the clubs need the money however they will not be getting any of mine. That's the point of the thread. But, why? It's not their fault they are being forced to vote. If we were in Livi's position, we'd probably vote for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Cruyff said: But, why? It's not their fault they are being forced to vote. If we were in Livi's position, we'd probably vote for it. did you miss the opening post. This thread is for fans who want to take positive action and to catalogue those clubs Whether we should take positive action should be saved for the other thread, or start a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 This could only really be effective if the club refuse to take any away allocation of tickets under instructions from fans groups . A step I would love to see happening . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, kingantti1874 said: did you miss the opening post. This thread is for fans who want to take positive action and to catalogue those clubs Whether we should take positive action should be saved for the other thread, or start a new one. Nope, I'm asking you to justify it. I don't see your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Definitely, maybe start a boycott of the teams sponsors as well and see how they like that. great idea 👍🏻 Toni Macaroni on the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Cruyff said: Nope, I'm asking you to justify it. I don't see your point. Ask on the other thread and I’ll debate it with you there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Why? because they are voting to demote us to the championship. If they voted no another resolution would quickly be put forward perhaps with no relegation. Don't think the Belgians for example have said they are relegating anyone when they declare Bruges champions it's not difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
it_hearts Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: If we get relegated I will continue to support the team at away grounds in the championship. However, I wont be going to any scummy premiership club that votes to put us down. I hope all Herats fans do like wise. Hamilton, St Mirren, Livingston and any others can die for all I care Thats where i am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I used the term demotion yesterday but I actually think penalised is a more accurate term. Any team that chooses to penalise us before the league has finished won’t see another penny from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Has anyone else made a statement? Need to keep a running log Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rools Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Any club that votes to relegate us should be boycotted. Even home cup games where they receive 1/2 the gate. Give £20 to FOH instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, EIEIO said: Why? because they are voting to demote us to the championship. If they voted no another resolution would quickly be put forward perhaps with no relegation. Don't think the Belgians for example have said they are relegating anyone when they declare Bruges champions it's not difficult. The Belgian league have put the decision off until the 24th apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) I’m in. 100% boycott of any team that votes for it. Never going to put a penny in their pockets instead I will up my FOH Edited April 9, 2020 by 1971fozzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Wee bit Sevconian me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: The Belgian league have put the decision off until the 24th apparently. Yes and hope to expand the league by 2 with no relegation. Meanwhile in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: If we get relegated I will continue to support the team at away grounds in the championship. However, I wont be going to any scummy premiership club that votes to put us down. I hope all Herats fans do like wise. Hamilton, St Mirren, Livingston and any others can die for all I care Championship clubs could be persuaded to vote for this by potentially having big Hearts away crowds next season. Home league games only for me and an extra FOH donation for any cup fixture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, EIEIO said: Yes and hope to expand the league by 2 with no relegation. Meanwhile in Scotland. They seem to be a bit more open minded maybe they will alow us to join their league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: They seem to be a bit more open minded maybe they will alow us to join their league Sensible Chaps. European football every second week win, win scenario. Edited April 9, 2020 by EIEIO Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, ramrod said: This could only really be effective if the club refuse to take any away allocation of tickets under instructions from fans groups . A step I would love to see happening . Dont expect the Federation of Hearts Supporters Clubs to encourage a boycott amongst its members. They are just another bowling club mentality with nothing but self interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Italian Lambretta said: Dont expect the Federation of Hearts Supporters Clubs to encourage a boycott amongst its members. They are just another bowling club mentality with nothing but self interest the fans will have to do this, Facebook, Twitter, other forums use the #tag and get it going. Reach out to your pals, your family and get them on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Sadly, the landscape of the Scottish game means it really is every man for themselves. Livingston for example, while probably totally against the morality of ending the season early, are probably in a position where they need assurance financially, and could probably do with the early pay out. But yes, I would consider a boycott of sorts. Personally, I think we should boycott the OF anyway. Cut their tickets to a minimum at Tynie, and refuse to put a penny in their pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Is it no just a bit too easy to boycott away grounds? Most folk have been doing that for years! Think bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: doesn’t need to be a compete boycott to hurt even if it’s a small gesture - I will take solace from the fact Livingston FC will never see another penny of my money. I want my refund from 15 March. Edit I want Hearts to demand a refund in full from Livvy for 15 March. HMFC do not in turn need to refund me. Edited April 9, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Riva Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Boycott away games? The way it's going to be a while before spectators are allowed to go to home games. Sorry to be doom and gloom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Locky said: Sadly, the landscape of the Scottish game means it really is every man for themselves. Livingston for example, while probably totally against the morality of ending the season early, are probably in a position where they need assurance financially, and could probably do with the early pay out. But yes, I would consider a boycott of sorts. Personally, I think we should boycott the OF anyway. Cut their tickets to a minimum at Tynie, and refuse to put a penny in their pocket. there is no reason the money can’t be handed out now, the rule can be changed with a simple vote.. this is the easy way out.. (They think) Since the are so keen to feather their own nest, The correct thing to do is make sure hearts fans money is used to mitigate the millions in losses hearts will sustain.. I will apply this to any championship clubs who vote in favour.. many of them will vote for this so they can get prize money as small as 20k and will be looking forward to hearts fans visiting.. to avoid any doubt, it absolutely should be applied to Championship teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 As much as it pains me to boycott away games, I totally agree with this and will not put another penny into clubs that have voted for the SPFL proposals. This is a strategic vote to save their own necks and Is certainly not within the realms of any sporting integrity whatsoever. My money will be spent at Tynecastle and Tynecastle only. I hope and pray clubs like St Johnston, St Liedown, Hamilton, Ross county and the Livi Narcos crew, all go bankrupt! They need to feel how we are feeling at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Jambo Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: As someone else said, this is not relegation.. this is an unsporting demotion. If the club will not fight this then real fans must. lets use this to keep a track of no go grounds for hearts fans and document other ideas.. if your happy to meekly roll over please stay on the other thread. Livingston first team in the list - always go to this away game given location.. will NEVER set foot in almondvale again, hearts. Should not entertain any player loans such as bobby burns to Livingston again.. I’m with you. Money will to go watching local team who are joining WoSL and FoH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Jambo Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Locky said: Sadly, the landscape of the Scottish game means it really is every man for themselves. Livingston for example, while probably totally against the morality of ending the season early, are probably in a position where they need assurance financially, and could probably do with the early pay out. But yes, I would consider a boycott of sorts. Personally, I think we should boycott the OF anyway. Cut their tickets to a minimum at Tynie, and refuse to put a penny in their pocket. Rangers are on our side. If they weren’t it would be signed and sealed by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, Zico said: I used the term demotion yesterday but I actually think penalised is a more accurate term. Any team that chooses to penalise us before the league has finished won’t see another penny from me. I did wonder if we could argue we are being expelled rather than relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Let’s hope Rangers get on board aswell. These clubs have shown they don’t care about Sporting integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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