#boycottawaygrounds

[1971fozzy]

10 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

I want my refund from 15 March.

 

Edit I want Hearts to demand a refund in full from Livvy for 15 March.

 

HMFC do not in turn need to refund me.

This. Still have my ticket for this.

[Nookie Bear]

12 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

I want my refund from 15 March.

 

Edit I want Hearts to demand a refund in full from Livvy for 15 March.

 

HMFC do not in turn need to refund me.

Good point.

 

Returned within 14 days or face legal action.

[Locky]

5 minutes ago, Paisley Jambo said:

Rangers are on our side. If they weren’t it would be signed and sealed by now.

**** them. They're only acting like they're on our side because they don't want their neighbours getting the title early, even though Rangers completely bottle it themselves. 

[Paisley Jambo]

3 minutes ago, Rods said:

Let’s hope Rangers get on board aswell. These clubs have shown they don’t care about Sporting integrity. 

They are. Much stronger statement than Levein’s girlfriend.

[Paisley Jambo]

Just now, Locky said:

**** them. They're only acting like they're on our side because they don't want their neighbours getting the title early, even though Rangers completely bottle it themselves. 

It’s us that are f***** without them.

 

 

[JAMBO _MOBY]

I get the anger at the clubs but they are looking out for themselves.. no surprise.

id rather we came back up( if we go down - which I doubt) and started to beat these shitey teams in the park,   that’s the best way to put them in their place.  We have more chance doing that with a big support. 

[1971fozzy]

1 minute ago, Locky said:

**** them. They're only acting like they're on our side because they don't want their neighbours getting the title early, even though Rangers completely bottle it themselves. 

true but without them it would be signed and sealed. Whatever their reasons they are vital in this.

[kingantti1874]

3 minutes ago, Locky said:

**** them. They're only acting like they're on our side because they don't want their neighbours getting the title early, even though Rangers completely bottle it themselves. 

you may not like them, but it doesn’t make them any less correct and we will support them on this issue..

 

you don’t award the 100m title after 80m and you can be sure that if aberdeen were top of the league the corrupt, Celtic led SPFL would not have put this option on the table

[Zico]

10 minutes ago, David McCaig said:

I did wonder if we could argue we are being expelled rather than relegated.

It’s certainly not a relegation as that only takes place after the completion of 38 games. The club should not be using that term and should call it what it is. 

[Zico]

11 minutes ago, David McCaig said:

I did wonder if we could argue we are being expelled rather than relegated.

My post has been expelled!

Edited April 9, 2020 by Zico

[1971fozzy]

Just now, JAMBO _MOBY said:

I get the anger at the clubs but they are looking out for themselves.. no surprise.

id rather we came back up( if we go down - which I doubt) and started to beat these shitey teams in the park,   that’s the best way to put them in their place.  We have more chance doing that with a big support. 

It’s fundamentally wrong. It’s expulsion by voting. There’s 24 points left to play for. There should be no relegation if the season can’t be completed. 
By voting for it they are doing so to get money which I see but doesn’t mean I’m going to ever top up their bank accounts by visiting their grounds again. 
and I include Hibs in that should they vote for it. And I love my Derby’s. 

[David McCaig]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

It’s certainly not a relegation as that only takes place after the completion of 38 games. The club should not be using that term and should call it what it is. 

Under article 62 expulsion would require an 11-1 vote.

[smiler]

1 hour ago, buzzbomb1958 said:

Boycott will never happen because everyone needs to have the same appetite for missing an away game farting against thunder it won't happen

Yep, Hearts will always take an away support, no matter the circumstances. 

[Locky]

5 minutes ago, Paisley Jambo said:

It’s us that are f***** without them.

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said:

true but without them it would be signed and sealed. Whatever their reasons they are vital in this.

 

2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

you may not like them, but it doesn’t make them any less correct and we will support them on this issue..

 

you don’t award the 100m title after 80m and you can be sure that if aberdeen were top of the league the corrupt, Celtic led SPFL would not have put this option on the table

To me, Rangers opinion as just as valid as Falkirk and Partick Thistle. What do Rangers stand to lose out on? There's bound to be several clubs who don't want to vote in favour and Rangers might be one of them, but they're no more important than anyone else. If Rangers opinion is more important in the eyes of the SPFL, then that again is a problem with them.

[1971fozzy]

2 minutes ago, Locky said:

 

 

To me, Rangers opinion as just as valid as Falkirk and Partick Thistle. What do Rangers stand to lose out on? There's bound to be several clubs who don't want to vote in favour and Rangers might be one of them, but they're no more important than anyone else. If Rangers opinion is more important in the eyes of the SPFL, then that again is a problem with them.

Maybe they should boycott away grounds also.  Rightly or wrongly they have a few allies and that could be pivotal in any vote. 

[soonbe110]

58 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

Has anyone else made a statement? Need to keep a running log

 

Raith supporting proposal. 

[Blackshades]

we still have the tickets for livi and Aberdeen away like many others, expecting full refunds for them if not played. as that money would have went to them and not hearts I want my money back

[jamboozy]

I’m in on this Kingantti, fek the lot of them, pack Tynecastle to the rafters and starve them.

[soonbe110]

Just now, Blackshades said:

we still have the tickets for livi and Aberdeen away like many others, expecting full refunds for them if not played. as that money would have went to them and not hearts I want my money back

I have asked the question as to whether the money would stay with Hearts or be passed on to other club if the game never gets played. Might have the choice of getting a refund or just leaving the money with Hearts as a donation.  Not had an answer yet. 

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, EIEIO said:

Yes and hope to expand the league by 2 with no relegation. Meanwhile in Scotland.

Progressive FA, won’t catch on in this backward football wasteland.

[Ronald Villiers]

1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said:

As someone else said, this is not relegation.. this is an unsporting demotion.  
 

If the club will not fight this then real fans must.

 

lets use this to keep a track of no go grounds for hearts fans and document other ideas.. if your happy to meekly roll over please stay on the other thread. 
 

Livingston first team in the list - always go to this away game given location.. will NEVER set foot in almondvale again, hearts. Should not entertain any player loans such as bobby burns to Livingston again.. 

Hire big screens and beam away games back to Tynie.  Charge £5 a head.  Would be more cash in the coffers and will hit the other teams.   

[Last Laff]

14 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said:

Maybe they should boycott away grounds also.  Rightly or wrongly they have a few allies and that could be pivotal in any vote. 

Why would they boycott the grounds when they will be trying to do everything to stop Celtic winning next years league? A few fans might not go but there will be a few thousand there to take their places. 

[Last Laff]

Just now, Ronald Villiers said:

Hire big screens and beam away games back to Tynie.  Charge £5 a head.  Would be more cash in the coffers and will hit the other teams.   

You can’t show live games at 3pm under normal rules. 

[jamboozy]

1 minute ago, Ronald Villiers said:

Hire big screens and beam away games back to Tynie.  Charge £5 a head.  Would be more cash in the coffers and will hit the other teams.   

Good call, like this idea.

[Psychedelicropcircle]

livi live hand to mouth as it is this goes on any amount of time they’ll likely die.

[davemclaren]

4 minutes ago, Ronald Villiers said:

Hire big screens and beam away games back to Tynie.  Charge £5 a head.  Would be more cash in the coffers and will hit the other teams.   

I doubt the other clubs would be eager to allow a beamback. 

[smiler]

Just now, davemclaren said:

I doubt the other clubs would be eager to allow a beamback. 

Well we'll just allow one of our supporters to go and periscope it back then. 

[Super_Hans]

I like the idea but when it comes down to it and we're playing Dunfermline away in the first game of the season, we'll be taking 4'000+ to East End Park.

[davemclaren]

1 minute ago, smiler said:

Well we'll just allow one of our supporters to go and periscope it back then. 

And charge a fiver to watch?  😄

[JamboAl]

44 minutes ago, David McCaig said:

I did wonder if we could argue we are being expelled rather than relegated.

The last time we were relegated we had a 15 point penaltybecause of a technicality.

This time it would effectively be a 24 point penalty with 8 games to play even if there is no guarantee we would win them.

What will they think of next?

[luckydug]

1 hour ago, gorgie rools said:

Any club that votes to relegate us should be boycotted. Even home cup games where they receive 1/2 the gate. Give £20 to FOH instead 

 

 

We are going to need every penny we can get. 

We should be looking after ourselves not putting money into other clubs. 

It's not even about hurting other clubs imo. It's about supporting our club financially instead of others. 

I understand the social aspects of going to away games for many but people can still meet their mates in the pub in Edinburgh (preferably Gorgie). 

I'm sure the 1874 bar could do with the business. Perhaps if there is the demand the club could open a hospitality lounge when Hearts are away so fans could still socialise. 

I would support the club refusing to take any tickets for away games. 

[Zico]

1 minute ago, JamboAl said:

The last time we were relegated we had a 15 point penaltybecause of a technicality. And were banned from signing players, even if they played for free. 

This time it would effectively be a 24 point penalty with 8 games to play even if there is no guarantee we would win them.

What will they think of next?

Minor edit

[kingantti1874]

7 minutes ago, Super_Hans said:

I like the idea but when it comes down to it and we're playing Dunfermline away in the first game of the season, we'll be taking 4'000+ to East End Park.

not if we grow a backbone and get organised.. 4000 can donate £20 to FOH .. thats 80k

[JamboAl]

Just now, Zico said:

Minor edit

Yep

[Kyle1874]

1 hour ago, Homme said:

We aren't exactly the old firm with their huge support. 

 

It won't hurt much. 

 

Clubs are only looking out for themselves. Don't see why people are taking it so personally. 

 

Rangers fans are talking about doing the same I have no idea if it will happen but saying it does take St. Johnson they give them 3 stands and give us 2 that will hurt them if we both boycott and other teams do similar again no idea if both sides will boycott but am sure as hell not giving any my money to any team that votes on us being demoted 

 

on a side note where is all these Celtc fans shouting about Sporting integrity ? was

it not 2012 when all that happened with rangers and they went bust that was there war cry Sporting integrity **** them and **** Neil Doncaster and the rest of his pals 

[queensferryjambo]

1 hour ago, Homme said:

We aren't exactly the old firm with their huge support. 

 

It won't hurt much. 

 

Clubs are only looking out for themselves. Don't see why people are taking it so personally. 

 

 

It will hurt Hibs.

 

Although Hearts being relegated will hurt them as much......... turkeys voting for Christmas? 

Edited April 9, 2020 by queensferryjambo

[Blackshades]

26 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

I have asked the question as to whether the money would stay with Hearts or be passed on to other club if the game never gets played. Might have the choice of getting a refund or just leaving the money with Hearts as a donation.  Not had an answer yet. 

Cheers if the money was to stay with hearts would be happy to leave it as a donation

[NaturalOrder74]

I don’t go to all away games but Livingston was one I go to fairly regularly won’t be going again. Hopefully get a list of the clubs that are happy to just fold over and give celtic a free title for the sake of getting their money (that they would get anyway) sooner. 

[stan]

1 hour ago, Cruyff said:

But, why?

It's not their fault they are being forced to vote. 

If we were in Livi's position, we'd probably vote for it. 

They're not being forced. They will each make a decision. Those who vote to look after themselves and directly shaft Hearts should not expect to benefit from Hearts supporters afterwards.

[22games nro]

So far it’s 

Livingston 

raith rovers 

[NaturalOrder74]

12 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

not if we grow a backbone and get organised.. 4000 can donate £20 to FOH .. thats 80k

I think that could fairly easily be advertised, even if half the people don’t go and give 20 quid to hearts rather than to these clubs it’ll make a massive difference 

[Independence]

2 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

As someone else said, this is not relegation.. this is an unsporting demotion.  
 

If the club will not fight this then real fans must.

 

lets use this to keep a track of no go grounds for hearts fans and document other ideas.. if your happy to meekly roll over please stay on the other thread. 
 

Livingston first team in the list - always go to this away game given location.. will NEVER set foot in almondvale again, hearts. Should not entertain any player loans such as bobby burns to Livingston again.. 

If Hearts are playing I will support them wherever.

[1971fozzy]

31 minutes ago, Last Laff said:

Why would they boycott the grounds when they will be trying to do everything to stop Celtic winning next years league? A few fans might not go but there will be a few thousand there to take their places. 

I know. Fanciful thinking

[Seymour M Hersh]

Rather than boycotting away games people should go the whole way and boycott Scottish football in it's entirety.

[1971fozzy]

5 minutes ago, stan said:

They're not being forced. They will each make a decision. Those who vote to look after themselves and directly shaft Hearts should not expect to benefit from Hearts supporters afterwards.

that’s my take

[Hearts007]

Feck any of them that vote for it

[1971fozzy]

Just now, Seymour M Hersh said:

Rather than boycotting away games people should go the whole way and boycott Scottish football in it's entirety.

then we would have no club.

backing Hearts is vital. Only Hearts in my opinion

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

Resign from the League and apply to join English League from the bottom. 

 

Think I could respect that. Not being shafted by a rule change after years about bleating about Sporting integrity 

[Seymour M Hersh]

Just now, 1971fozzy said:

then we would have no club.

backing Hearts is vital. Only Hearts in my opinion

 

I appreciate the vast majority will probably feel the way you do but me personally I'll be done completely with the game up here if we are unjustly demoted. 

[Seymour M Hersh]

Just now, Sir Gio said:

Resign from the League and apply to join English League from the bottom. 

 

Think I could respect that. Not being shafted by a rule change after years about bleating about Sporting integrity 

 

I would accept that if she tried it. There could be a number of lower league clubs in England go to the wall during this crisis which might create openings.