Savage Vince Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: Irony about moaning ! The SNP chief fan dan Bet you look as good as Blackturd in a kilt ! I would leave this now if I was you. You've been made to look like an absolute tit. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: So nothing to moan about then. That must stick in the SNP's throats. I'm correct then! Not moaning either as that's a unionist thing as they're a bunch of deluded, hard of thinking trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Savage Vince said: I would leave this now if I was you. You've been made to look like an absolute tit. 😊 Nobody can look as big a tit as you Edited December 19, 2021 by Maroon Sailor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Vince Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Maroon Sailor said: Nobody can look as big a tit as you I'll allow that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 I see The SNP kickback calvary is out in force this morning ! There's a Yoon Chaaaaaaaaaarge Grab him 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Savage Vince said: I'll allow that. Much obliged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: Nobody can look as big a tit as you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: I see The SNP kickback calvary is out in force this morning ! There's a Yoon Chaaaaaaaaaarge Grab him 🤣 Get called out when talking nonsense 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: Get called out when talking nonsense 😉 What nonsense ? If 2014 went your way these British warships are not getting built in Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: What nonsense ? If 2014 went your way these British warships are not getting built in Scotland Would've have negotiated what was ours and built more if necessary or spent money on more important things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Just now, Roxy Hearts said: Would've have negotiated what was ours and built more if necessary or spent money on more important things! Aye defence isn't important to a country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Maroon Sailor said: Aye defence isn't important to a country. Didn't say that! We'd require a smaller force on everything and wouldn't want to play the UK game of "Billy Bigbaws"! We'd spend our money on other things. Wouldn't have nuclear weapons for start or useless aircraft carriers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Scotland would need ships but doubt we would need or want warships. We would need some sort of coastal defence vessels, similar to other non-warmongering nations. We'll either get some as part of the divorce settlement or build them. Take our share of trident spending and we can build them out of our spare change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Vince Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, XB52 said: Scotland would need ships but doubt we would need or want warships. We would need some sort of coastal defence vessels, similar to other non-warmongering nations. And we'd have thousands of recently unemployed local people to build them. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Maroon Sailor said: What nonsense ? If 2014 went your way these British warships are not getting built in Scotland Don't talk poop, Babcock, a multi national company, won the contract, initial design etc was carried out at Devonport, transfer of initial design and refinement carried out at Rosyth, build capability was only ever available at , Rosyth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Don't talk poop, Babcock, a multi national company, won the contract, initial design etc was carried out at Devonport, transfer of initial design and refinement carried out at Rosyth, build capability was only ever available at , Rosyth. How many British warships have been built outwith the United Kingdom ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Maroon Sailor said: How many British warships have been built outwith the United Kingdom ? Dunno... The QE & PoW built at Rosyth, as a result of Babcock winning the contract to build them...Type 31 now in progress in the same way...Scotland may leave the UK, but there will be cooperation on projects such as this with multi national companies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Dunno... The QE & PoW built at Rosyth, as a result of Babcock winning the contract to build them...Type 31 now in progress in the same way...Scotland may leave the UK, but there will be cooperation on projects such as this with multi national companies... Scotland is still part of the UK Still good for British warships to be built in Scottish shipyards 👍 What's not to like ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: Scotland is still part of the UK Still good for British warships to be built in Scottish shipyards 👍 What's not to like ? The point is, that there is no reason for it not to continue post independence.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Roxy Hearts said: Would've have negotiated what was ours and built more if necessary or spent money on more important things! . Edited December 19, 2021 by Japan Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 I see Westminster is giving the SG a wee £220m crimbo bonus. Freedumb tho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Konrad von Carstein said: The point is, that there is no reason for it not to continue post independence.. I’d imagine the rUK would like to keep those contracts in house rather than handing them to a bitter newly formed independent country. Still we could always built our own ships for the newly formed Scottish navy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, Dazo said: I’d imagine the rUK would like to keep those contracts in house rather than handing them to a bitter newly formed independent country. Still we could always built our own ships for the newly formed Scottish navy. If the SNP had their way Scotland probably wouldn't have any Armed Forces. They are not a huge fan of money being spent on Defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, Dazo said: I’d imagine the rUK would like to keep those contracts in house rather than handing them to a bitter newly formed independent country. Still we could always built our own ships for the newly formed Scottish navy. Why would we be bitter? From your tone it would seem that it would be certain Scots Unionist types who would be bitter. We don't know what form the leaving discussions will take and I imagine that the defence of mainland Britain would form a part of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: If the SNP had their way Scotland probably wouldn't have any Armed Forces. They are not a huge fan of money being spent on Defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, JackLadd said: I see Westminster is giving the SG a wee £220m crimbo bonus. Freedumb tho! Must still be enough room down the back of Sturgeon's sofa. Edited December 20, 2021 by Maroon Sailor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Why would we be bitter? From your tone it would seem that it would be certain Scots Unionist types who would be bitter. We don't know what form the leaving discussions will take and I imagine that the defence of mainland Britain would form a part of them. The bitter part is irrelevant really. Defence would certainly be discussed but I don’t know what motivation a UK government would hand out contracts to an independent Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 On 19/12/2021 at 09:55, Maroon Sailor said: Irony about moaning ! The SNP chief fan dan Bet you look as good as Blackturd in a kilt ! Rattled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Dazo said: The bitter part is irrelevant really. Defence would certainly be discussed but I don’t know what motivation a UK government would hand out contracts to an independent Scotland. Yet it was the first descriptor you chose. Why would Scotland be bitter? And why wouldn't a UK government give contracts to companies from Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 12 hours ago, JackLadd said: I see Westminster is giving the SG a wee £220m crimbo bonus. Freedumb tho! Seems it's an advance on our own money anyway. £220m now, £220 less in the future. Happy Crimbo though eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Seems it's an advance on our own money anyway. £220m now, £220 less in the future. Happy Crimbo though eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Pans Jambo said: Rattled Never rattled by the likes of you Sorry to disappoint 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: Never rattled by the likes of you Sorry to disappoint 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Why would I be rattled by you ?🤣 Don't think you have corresponded with me in a decent way in all my time on here ! I don't lose any sleep over it though 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 20 hours ago, Pans Jambo said: Seems it's an advance on our own money anyway. £220m now, £220 less in the future. Happy Crimbo though eh! The Nats calling for borrowing powers to raise money from the markets at prevailing interest rates and moaning about what they claim was just an interest free loan from Westminster. Economic illiteracy. And what did they do when told that Westminster are unlikely to ask for the money back? They just shut up without a retraction never mind an apology and look for any other issue they can distort to promote the case for independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, jambos are go! said: The Nats calling for borrowing powers to raise money from the markets at prevailing interest rates and moaning about what they claim was just an interest free loan from Westminster. Economic illiteracy. And what did they do when told that Westminster are unlikely to ask for the money back? They just shut up without a retraction never mind an apology and look for any other issue they can distort to promote the case for independence. What distortion is needed? England decides our government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogaza Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, jambos are go! said: The Nats calling for borrowing powers to raise money from the markets at prevailing interest rates and moaning about what they claim was just an interest free loan from Westminster. Economic illiteracy. And what did they do when told that Westminster are unlikely to ask for the money back? They just shut up without a retraction never mind an apology and look for any other issue they can distort to promote the case for independence. If you think keeping Scotland in a fiscal strait jacket will stem support for independence, you are wrong. There is no good reason why Scotland can't have borrowing powers. Suggesting otherwise is just hyper partisan pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, jambogaza said: If you think keeping Scotland in a fiscal strait jacket will stem support for independence, you are wrong. There is no good reason why Scotland can't have borrowing powers. Suggesting otherwise is just hyper partisan pish. Good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 34 minutes ago, jambos are go! said: The Nats calling for borrowing powers to raise money from the markets at prevailing interest rates and moaning about what they claim was just an interest free loan from Westminster. Economic illiteracy. And what did they do when told that Westminster are unlikely to ask for the money back? They just shut up without a retraction never mind an apology and look for any other issue they can distort to promote the case for independence. Youre whole argument is based on the biggest elephant in the world in the room....ITS OUR BLOODY MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Pans Jambo said: Youre whole argument is based on the biggest elephant in the world in the room....ITS OUR BLOODY MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!! No! No!. It’s just handouts we get and we should be eternally grateful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Just now, The Real Maroonblood said: No! No!. It’s just handouts we get and we should be eternally grateful. Yip, someone from the "Scotland is shite" loony yoony brigade will be along quoting GERS in 3 - 2 - 1..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Youre whole argument is based on the biggest elephant in the world in the room....ITS OUR BLOODY MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!! mental that it’s never portrayed that way. It’s always you ungrateful sweatys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogaza Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Youre whole argument is based on the biggest elephant in the world in the room....ITS OUR BLOODY MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!! Doesn't even matter if it is or not. Every country in the world borrows. Floating debt is not unusual in any way. It would actually be politically useful to both sides of the constitutional debate for it to happen. Unionist can claim hollyrood has the ability to go further. Nationalists can claim that it shows our potential and increases our financial credibility. I suspect the financial credibility bit is what has unionists a bit uneasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, jambos are go! said: The Nats calling for borrowing powers to raise money from the markets at prevailing interest rates and moaning about what they claim was just an interest free loan from Westminster. Economic illiteracy. And what did they do when told that Westminster are unlikely to ask for the money back? They just shut up without a retraction never mind an apology and look for any other issue they can distort to promote the case for independence. The SG have no class or understanding of fiscal matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Just now, manaliveits105 said: The SG have no class or understanding of fiscal matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Just now, jambogaza said: Doesn't even matter if it is or not. Every country in the world borrows. Floating debt is not unusual in any way. It would actually be politically useful to both sides of the constitutional debate for it to happen. Unionist can claim hollyrood has the ability to go further. Nationalists can claim that it shows our potential and increases our financial credibility. I suspect the financial credibility bit is what has unionists a bit uneasy. As Jack D said above, its the way Scotland is portrayed. Cap in hand, begging, wouldn't survive without Westminster. Pish! Even the defence secretary was at it saying the UK armed forces shouldn't be propping up Scotland's NHS crisis! Like Scotland isn't part of the UK currently...all the while the Scottish regiments are in England doing work "propping up" the English NHS! You couldn't make it up. Does England ask the other 3 nations before it decides to borrow on whatever projects they see fit? Imagine if they did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Vince Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: The SG have no class or understanding of fiscal matters Remind me again about the UK's relationship with debt please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Savage Vince said: Remind me again about the UK's relationship with debt please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 So wee Jimmy Grinchie is going to cancel the football for Xmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 hours ago, JackLadd said: So wee Jimmy Grinchie is going to cancel the football for Xmas. Just picked up the tickets for the Ross County game earlier! Annoying, so will have to be pint instead. This is getting frustrating but understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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