We are not alone.... Maybe.

[Ulysses]

1 minute ago, Tazio said:

The interviewee who’s up for a Nobel Prize apparently. 

 

Is he a multi award winning immunology expert?  It seems these days you're only highly credible if you're multi award winning. Especially if one if those awards relates to bent cutlery.

[Locky]

Stood at the bus stop this morning and saw this great green ball 'falling' from the sky. Just about shat myself!

 

I've since been informed that it was likely the Geminid meteor shower which was due to be visible during the night. Fascinating!

[Gizmo]

12 hours ago, Ked said:

I was more having a carry on that night mate.

I know you might not want to hear it from a poster like me but I respect your posts and especially the ones about science /philosophy types.

 

 

No, I appreciate it, mate.

I'd love us to discover life in the universe during my lifetime. Even if it is microbial life discovered in the underground oceans of Europa or Titan,  finding it in our solar system would unequivocally tell us that life is abundant in the Universe. 

[Greedy Jambo]

 

[WorldChampions1902]

In response to the earlier questions on here as to whether President Biden knows the truth behind the Grusch recovered UAP/biologics allegations, attorney Daniel Sheehan has stated categorically that Biden does know. Sheehan went further, by stating Biden was adamant that the 68 page draft UAP legislation that was gutted down to 24 pages should be approved as it was quote, “better than nothing”. 

 

Sheehan is another credible participant in the UAP field, so take from that what you will.

[Greedy Jambo]

Biden doesn't know what time of day it is. 

[henrysmithsgloves]

[Greedy Jambo]

 

[Unknown user]

On 16/12/2023 at 15:12, WorldChampions1902 said:

 

Sheehan is another credible participant in the UAP field

 

Credible based on what? I can't find any reason to suggest he's credible in this field.

 

I don't see any eye witness accounts from him, specialist studies, etc.

 

You can't just point at someone, say "credible" and bestow credibility 

[Ulysses]

2 hours ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said:

 

Credible based on what? I can't find any reason to suggest he's credible in this field.

 

I don't see any eye witness accounts from him, specialist studies, etc.

 

You can't just point at someone, say "credible" and bestow credibility 

 

It's odd how video editors, bureaucrats and lawyers get to be credible in this business, while physicists, er, don't.

[WorldChampions1902]

4 hours ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said:

 

Credible based on what? I can't find any reason to suggest he's credible in this field.

 

I don't see any eye witness accounts from him, specialist studies, etc.

 

You can't just point at someone, say "credible" and bestow credibility 

He has been involved in the UFO field for many, many years. Working with Professor John Mack, Dr. Stephen Greer’s Disclosure Project and others. He is Lue Elizondo’s legal representative in an ongoing legal battle with the US Defense Department. Elizondo is the former director of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP). He has had many off-the-record discussions with very senior people in many areas of the US Defense and Intelligence community about the UAP topic. Much of what Sheehan was told (and continues to be told), has been and is being corroborated by first-hand witnesses who are now whistleblowing, and there are many more coming forward as I write. My understanding is that he also had input into the drafting of the Schumer legislation that was gutted last week.

 

Just because he is not an ‘experiencer’ or worked on any recovered UAP’s, doesn’t mean he’s not credible in the UAP field. This subject matter is vast. It covers a huge range of issues. It requires a lot of research. The legislation that went before Congress was only a start. There are a multitude of elephants in the room that will need to be addressed - once Disclosure happens. After last week’s developments, it is looking more and more likely that ‘Caratrophic Disclosure’ is what will now happen.

[Mister T]

On 15/12/2023 at 06:09, Rick James said:

Stood at the bus stop this morning and saw this great green ball 'falling' from the sky. Just about shat myself!

 

I've since been informed that it was likely the Geminid meteor shower which was due to be visible during the night. Fascinating!

I saw that too when I was walking to work. It was travelling from west to east. Must have been fairly big to see it in daylight. 

[Unknown user]

1 hour ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

He has been involved in the UFO field for many, many years. Working with Professor John Mack, Dr. Stephen Greer’s Disclosure Project and others. He is Lue Elizondo’s legal representative in an ongoing legal battle with the US Defense Department. Elizondo is the former director of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP). He has had many off-the-record discussions with very senior people in many areas of the US Defense and Intelligence community about the UAP topic. Much of what Sheehan was told (and continues to be told), has been and is being corroborated by first-hand witnesses who are now whistleblowing, and there are many more coming forward as I write. My understanding is that he also had input into the drafting of the Schumer legislation that was gutted last week.

 

Just because he is not an ‘experiencer’ or worked on any recovered UAP’s, doesn’t mean he’s not credible in the UAP field. This subject matter is vast. It covers a huge range of issues. It requires a lot of research. The legislation that went before Congress was only a start. There are a multitude of elephants in the room that will need to be addressed - once Disclosure happens. After last week’s developments, it is looking more and more likely that ‘Caratrophic Disclosure’ is what will now happen.

 

He's also a right religious type, litigated on behalf of christic organisations, came from Harvard school of divinity.

 

Very credible man - so is god real then?

[WorldChampions1902]

50 minutes ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said:

 

He's also a right religious type, litigated on behalf of christic organisations, came from Harvard school of divinity.

 

Very credible man - so is god real then?

I’ve mentioned the following umpteen times on here.
 

The Catholic church has one of the largest UFO archives on the planet. They have their own staff that research this topic. They have observatories in Italy and the USA. There have been some eye-raising pronouncements on this topic over the years from quite senior members of the Vatican. In essence, the Catholic Church seems to have been embracing this subject for decades (at the very least). And don’t forget that whistleblower Grusch has alleged that the Vatican facilitated the transfer of a UFO that the Italian military recovered in 1933 to the US at the end of WW2. So the connection between religion and UAP’s doesn’t seem as far fetched as perhaps one might expect?

 

If you really want to delve further into that area, I recommend taking a look at Diana Pasulka’s extensive research into this. She goes back to ancient records and provides some interesting new perspectives and compares those with what is being ‘experienced’ today. Very thought provoking.
 

As for your question about god, who knows?

[Ulysses]

1 hour ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said:

 

He's also a right religious type, litigated on behalf of christic organisations, came from Harvard school of divinity.

 

Very credible man - so is god real then?

 

So he's also educated in gravitational physics and quantum mechanics, right?  I mean, he is, right?

[Unknown user]

1 hour ago, Ulysses said:

 

So he's also educated in gravitational physics and quantum mechanics, right?  I mean, he is, right?

 

Must be!

[Greedy Jambo]

You pair would start an argument with a brick wall. 😂

 

[Locky]

5 hours ago, Mister T said:

I saw that too when I was walking to work. It was travelling from west to east. Must have been fairly big to see it in daylight. 

The one I saw was about 4am travelling south to north. Was a fair old size too. But some sight to see at that time of the day too.

[Unknown user]

53 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

You pair would start an argument with a brick wall. 😂

 

 

If that wall was pointing at someone and going "credible!" then you're probably right TBF

[Greedy Jambo]

23 minutes ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said:

 

If that wall was pointing at someone and going "credible!" then you're probably right TBF

 Who would you find as credible in this subject?

[Unknown user]

13 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 Who would you find as credible in this subject?

 

An alien 

[Ulysses]

1 hour ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said:

 

An alien 

 

I'd settle for humans with well-developed and relevant knowledge and experience, saying soundly researched and reasonable things.  But that's just me - others might be more fussy.

 

 

[WorldChampions1902]

Whistleblower David Grusch spilling more beans - this time on Tucker Carlson.
 

Not one for the naysayers, so scroll down. The alleged murders by the US government, of other whistleblowers is particularly disturbing, along with a few other revelations.

 

I checked the Australian Skeptics organisation website and neither gets a mention. Make of that what you will.

 

[Unknown user]

18 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Whistleblower David Grusch spilling more beans - this time on Tucker Carlson.
 

Not one for the naysayers, so scroll down. The alleged murders by the US government, of other whistleblowers is particularly disturbing, along with a few other revelations.

 

I checked the Australian Skeptics organisation website and neither gets a mention. Make of that what you will.

 

 

Tucker. Carlson.

[Ulysses]

16 minutes ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said:

 

Tucker. Carlson.

 

He's a zoomer, but he doesn't count as non-human, surely?

[Tazio]

12 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

He's a zoomer, but he doesn't count as non-human, surely?

Scum. Subhuman scum. 

[Ulysses]

Just now, Tazio said:

Scum. Subhuman scum. 

 

Teck.  Superhuman teck.

 

 

 

[Ked]

Anybody see the Spanish flag in the sky just before dusk?

Looking west.

 

[DG_HMFC]

11 hours ago, Ked said:

Anybody see the Spanish flag in the sky just before dusk?

Looking west.

 

 

Nacreous cloud. 

 

Looked incredible.

[Ked]

1 hour ago, DG_HMFC said:

 

Nacreous cloud. 

 

Looked incredible.

It's did.

Was it northern lights that caused it?

[DG_HMFC]

59 minutes ago, Ked said:

It's did.

Was it northern lights that caused it?

 

Those clouds are made up of tiny ice crystals and usually only form in polar regions, making them extremely rare to view here. They are so high up in the atmosphere they are lit up by the sun that is below the horizon. 

[Ked]

2 hours ago, DG_HMFC said:

 

Those clouds are made up of tiny ice crystals and usually only form in polar regions, making them extremely rare to view here. They are so high up in the atmosphere they are lit up by the sun that is below the horizon. 

Sound mate

[Greedy Jambo]

https://youtu.be/4rvwskJTgYU?si=qYZcTV0nOhQ89qQa

[Dawnrazor]

https://santatracker.google.com/

[Ulysses]

Official NORAD Tracks Santa (noradsanta.org)

[WorldChampions1902]

A nice summation of where we are now at, following the tumultuous events of 2023.

 

2024 promises to be very interesting. Tic-tac. Tick-Tock.

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4385064-2023-the-year-the-u-s-government-started-taking-ufos-seriously/

 

The article is by Marik Von Rennenkampf, who served as an analyst with the State Department’s Bureau of International Security and Nonproliferation, and was an Obama administration appointee at the U.S. Department of Defense.

 

Von Rennenkampf doesn’t get ‘discredited’’ by the Australian Skeptics Society either, so make of that what you will.

 

 

 

[ri Alban]

[WorldChampions1902]

An interesting article just published today in “The Spectator”.

 

Have we just discovered aliens? Jan. 8th, 2024

 

It’s one of the greatest puzzles of the universe, and one that has vexed humanity ever since we first gazed at the stars and thought of other worlds. Is our Earth the sole place that harbours life, or might it be found elsewhere, among the trillions of planets, star systems and galaxies? As Arthur C. Clarke put it: ‘Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.’ The fact that they are all British, and all using similar language, suggests they are referring to the same thing

The revelation that we might be seriously close to an answer is, therefore, momentous and surprising; even more surprising is that the revelation occurred on Jools Holland’s New Year’s Eve 2023 ‘Musical Hootenanny’, in between performances by Rod Stewart, the Sugababes, Joss Stone, and the Mary Wallopers. As is his wont, whenever the music subsided Jools Holland skittered boyishly between his BBC TV guests, asking them for comments on the year just gone, and the year to come. One of these guests was Dame Maggie Aderin-Pocock, honorary research assistant at University College London’s world-famous Department of Physics and Astronomy.
Sitting next to Dr Aderin-Pocock, Holland asked the noted astronomer for her expectations of 2024, and she replied, candidly and baldly: ‘I think we’re going to discover alien life.’ Slightly startled, Holland asked for some clarity – e.g. are we going to meet them on planet earth – to which she further said: ‘Alien life is definitely out there’. Note: not here, there.
If this was just a one off, we might dismiss it. Perhaps the BBC was unusually generous with the English fizz in the green room. But Aderin-Pocock is not the only person ending 2023 with startling predictions of alien life discovery. In a YouTube video broadcast a few days ago, popular UK astrophysicist Becky Smethurst added some detail to all this, by saying: ‘I think we are going to get a paper that has strong evidence for a biosignature on an exoplanet very, very soon. Let’s just say it’s on my bingo card for 2024’. Likewise, in a CNBC interview broadcast the first week of 2024, UK astronaut Tim Peake was asked to speculate on extra-terrestrial life, and he said ‘Potentially, the James Webb telescope may have already found [alien life]… it’s just that they don’t want to release or confirm those results until they can be entirely sure, but we found a planet that seems to be giving off strong signals of biological life.’

What does it all mean?
 

It is possible the three space-heads are referring to different discoveries, but the fact that they are all British, and all using similar language, suggests they are referring to the same thing: namely a scientific paper, probably British in origin, perhaps still being peer-reviewed, which will provide firm evidence of alien life on an exoplanet (a planet outside our solar system), using biosignatures, which generally means gases and chemicals in the atmosphere which are highly likely to emanate from organic creatures. These biosignatures might be combinations of methane and oxygen, or methane and CO2, and so on.
Not surprisingly, this sequence of statements has set the space-rabbit of speculation running hard. Dedicated UFO-bods on Twitter/X are, for instance, claiming that this is merely stage one of ‘disclosure’ – the act of carefully educating humanity about alien life, without destabilising the world.

 

The supposed disclosure plan goes like this: first, the powers-that-be will casually tell us that a planet a squillion miles away probably harbours a few bugs in the clouds – i.e. something profound, but non-threatening. Once we’ve grown used to that, we will be told we’ve encountered a ‘technosignature’, indicating intelligent non-earth life, maybe broadcasting radio waves or sending out probes (which is worrying but, hey, we coped with the microbes). Finally we will be informed that non-human intelligence walks among us, and has been doing so for a while – which is deeply threatening, but seeing as we got used to the space bugs then the space radio signals, what does it matter if we have space beings on Earth?
 

That all sounds quite mad – but then, lots of UFO-ish revelations these past few years have seemed quite mad. And, anyway, we don’t have to go too deep down this rabbit hole to find these tantalising British space-hints highly stimulating. Will the paper identifying these biosignatures be widely accepted? Or will it be challenged by other scientists, and end up rather lost in ambiguity and dispute? Perhaps it won’t be taken all that seriously (this happened to recent discoveries of phosphine gas on Venus). Alternatively, the anticipated paper will prove definitive, and will be accepted into the scientific consensus. Thereafter, we will all nod and understand that yes, there are other life forms out there, beyond our terrestrial home.
 

Should that happen, Jools Holland’s 2023 Musical Hootenanny will likely go down in history – and not just because it showed that Rod Stewart can still belt out a banging tune.

[Ulysses]

That started so promisingly.

 

 

 

 

 

[Boab]

After watching RAYE on the Hootenanny show, the only thing I was pondering was gravity and why it didn’t apply to her !

[Tazio]

Very disappointed that the Miami incident wasn’t included in that. 

[WorldChampions1902]

Following yesterday’s latest classified UAP hearing in Washington, it seems that whistleblower David Grusch’s credibility has been further enhanced. 2024 has started very promisingly. More to come from new whistleblowers too.

 

[Unknown user]

45 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Following yesterday’s latest classified UAP hearing in Washington, it seems that whistleblower David Grusch’s credibility has been further enhanced. 2024 has started very promisingly. More to come from new whistleblowers too.

 

 

Do you reckon you'll see an alien in your lifetime?

[Ulysses]

Ah no, not the multi award winning and easily taken in.....

[ri Alban]

[WorldChampions1902]

9 hours ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said:

 

Do you reckon you'll see an alien in your lifetime?

I doubt it but I live in hope. If/when a US President stands at a lectern and announces that we are indeed living in the presence of a Non-Human Intelligence and have done for a very long time, it won’t be accompanied by images of any of the ‘species’ of aliens we have evidence of IMHO. Not least because it will probably scare half the population s**tless. After which, the naysayers will continue to put their fingers in their ears and still deny such a presence.

 

Any ideas why all these highly-placed whistleblowers are revealing what they know? Despite attempts by certain elements of certain government agencies to discredit and intimidate them? For example, they desperately tried to smear David Grusch with the mental health card and failed spectacularly. And as the clip above demonstrates, Grusch’s stock in Congress has soared following the latest behind closed doors hearing. Not just in the eyes of previously sceptical Congressmen, but in the view of the Director General of the Intelligence Community.
 

There are also the dozens of other whistleblowers who have testified to Congress behind closed doors, many of whom have supplied corroborating evidence. There is complete radio silence on all of that from the US authorities. And as the clip shows, more new whistleblowers are queuing up to share their experiences.

 

[Gizmo]

9 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

I doubt it but I live in hope. If/when a US President stands at a lectern and announces that we are indeed living in the presence of a Non-Human Intelligence and have done for a very long time, it won’t be accompanied by images of any of the ‘species’ of aliens we have evidence of IMHO. Not least because it will probably scare half the population s**tless. After which, the naysayers will continue to put their fingers in their ears and still deny such a presence...

 

 

 

This isn't about aliens for you, is it? It's tribalism, Us v Them. Just another type of religious belief. The fact you think the 'others' are so entrenched they'll deny the evidence that would surely be shared alongside such an announcement is bonkers.

 

We've been asking for evidence every time you cite someone saying something on YouTube.

 

[WorldChampions1902]

29 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

 

This isn't about aliens for you, is it? It's tribalism, Us v Them. Just another type of religious belief. The fact you think the 'others' are so entrenched they'll deny the evidence that would surely be shared alongside such an announcement is bonkers.

 

We've been asking for evidence every time you cite someone saying something on YouTube.

 

Unfortunately, the naysayers refute all the testimony of whistleblowers going back decades - much of which corresponds with what today’s generation of whistleblowers are declaring. See my previous posts for examples.

 

Unfortunately, the naysayers pour scorn on the allegations that people have been killed to maintain the secrecy on this topic. And yet, here we have that very allegation being deemed “credible”  today by Congressmen and the Director General of the Intelligence Community. If people are being killed, threatened and intimidated to maintain secrecy (over something they cannot accept is real), the naysayers never ask “why”?

 

Unfortunately, the naysayers cannot explain why today’s UAP’s demonstrate the same radar signatures of those identified in the 1950’s, performing feats beyond our understanding of physics. Nor can they explain why, some 70 years later, whatever alleged country possess such technology, hasn’t deployed that in any of the multitude of global conflicts that have occurred in that time?

 

Unfortunately, the naysayers are unable to explain the mind-blowing energy characteristics of these craft. As has been well documented, just one of the recent Tic-Tacs that were recorded on multiple military sensor systems required more energy than is available from ALL the nuclear power generators on the planet! And there were fleets of these craft recorded on these sensors! Meanwhile, planet earth continues to engage in wars over oil and gas, whilst allegedly, at least one earthly nation is sitting on the answer to the planets energy crisis and has been for 70 years.

 

Sadly, no amount of ‘evidence’ is ever going to be accepted by a certain element of ’naysayers’ for all manner of reasons.

Edited January 14 by WorldChampions1902

[Unknown user]

28 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Unfortunately, the naysayers refute all the testimony of whistleblowers going back decades - much of which corresponds with what today’s generation of whistleblowers are declaring. See my previous posts for examples.

 

Unfortunately, the naysayers pour scorn on the allegations that people have been killed to maintain the secrecy on this topic. And yet, here we have that very allegation being deemed “credible”  today by Congressmen and the Director General of the Intelligence Community. If people are being killed, threatened and intimidated to maintain secrecy (over something they cannot accept is real), the naysayers never ask “why”?

 

Unfortunately, the naysayers cannot explain why today’s UAP’s demonstrate the same radar signatures of those identified in the 1950’s, performing feats beyond our understanding of physics. Nor can they explain why, some 70 years later, whatever alleged country possess such technology, hasn’t deployed that in any of the multitude of global conflicts that have occurred in that time?

 

Unfortunately, the naysayers are unable to explain the mind-blowing energy characteristics of these craft. As has been well documented, just one of the recent Tic-Tacs that were recorded on multiple military sensor systems required more energy than is available from ALL the nuclear power generators on the planet! And there were fleets of these craft recorded on these sensors! Meanwhile, planet earth continues to engage in wars over oil and gas, whilst allegedly, at least one earthly nation is sitting on the answer to the planets energy crisis and has been for 70 years.

 

Sadly, no amount of ‘evidence’ is ever going to be accepted by a certain element of ’naysayers’ for all manner of reasons.

 

Unfortunately, the naysayers... 😁 

[Unknown user]

37 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Unfortunately, the naysayers refute all the testimony of whistleblowers going back decades - much of which corresponds with what today’s generation of whistleblowers are declaring. See my previous posts for examples.

 

Unfortunately, the naysayers pour scorn on the allegations that people have been killed to maintain the secrecy on this topic. And yet, here we have that very allegation being deemed “credible”  today by Congressmen and the Director General of the Intelligence Community. If people are being killed, threatened and intimidated to maintain secrecy (over something they cannot accept is real), the naysayers never ask “why”?

 

Unfortunately, the naysayers cannot explain why today’s UAP’s demonstrate the same radar signatures of those identified in the 1950’s, performing feats beyond our understanding of physics. Nor can they explain why, some 70 years later, whatever alleged country possess such technology, hasn’t deployed that in any of the multitude of global conflicts that have occurred in that time?

 

Unfortunately, the naysayers are unable to explain the mind-blowing energy characteristics of these craft. As has been well documented, just one of the recent Tic-Tacs that were recorded on multiple military sensor systems required more energy than is available from ALL the nuclear power generators on the planet! And there were fleets of these craft recorded on these sensors! Meanwhile, planet earth continues to engage in wars over oil and gas, whilst allegedly, at least one earthly nation is sitting on the answer to the planets energy crisis and has been for 70 years.

 

Sadly, no amount of ‘evidence’ is ever going to be accepted by a certain element of ’naysayers’ for all manner of reasons.

 

I'm a naysayer and you're putting an awful lot of words in my mouth!

 

I don't believe aliens have been here, that's all 🤷‍♂️ 

 

One thing I will ask though, there's all this compelling evidence, fleets half a century ago, downed craft in secret bunkers, alien lifeforms being studied, people being silenced, very credible witnesses, etc. so how come you don't think you'll ever see an alien?

Edited January 14 by ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS