Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[Nicholas Brody]

1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes thats also in the plan i think just wasnt mentioned in the tweet 

 

All I can see is that from the 10th, you can meet up with a maximum of two other households in doors. When the roadmap was first released it said in phase two that you could meet with one other household indoors. 

 

I had my mother in law round tonight (for my bloody sins!) as she lives alone but I can't go and see my mum and dad unless I'm outside. Just seems a bit odd. A week on Monday I'll be able to meet them all in a beer garden but still not able to go into my mum and dad's house. 

 

Maybe it's just me but it does seem to be getting a bit more complicated and splintered. Still much prefer our way than across the border though.

[JudyJudyJudy]

12 minutes ago, Nicholas Brody said:

 

All I can see is that from the 10th, you can meet up with a maximum of two other households in doors. When the roadmap was first released it said in phase two that you could meet with one other household indoors. 

 

I had my mother in law round tonight (for my bloody sins!) as she lives alone but I can't go and see my mum and dad unless I'm outside. Just seems a bit odd. A week on Monday I'll be able to meet them all in a beer garden but still not able to go into my mum and dad's house. 

 

Maybe it's just me but it does seem to be getting a bit more complicated and splintered. Still much prefer our way than across the border though.

I think we are allowed to visit or have a visit from one household. It could be a single person or couple or family.  I think they have given up on the social distancing within the house when these people visit. I am visiting family tomorrow for the first time since lockdown in their house but will be careful re hand washing etc and we will try social distancing but may prove difficult.

[i8hibsh]

12 hours ago, SE16 3LN said:

Can I go and stay with my Mother, she hasn't seen anyone for 15 weeks.

 

It is a sad indictment on today's society that we have to ask permission for that.

[AlimOzturk]

46 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

It is a sad indictment on today's society that we have to ask permission for that.

 

Yep. 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

Watching CNN this morning and as many feared America is perhaps seeing the consequences of opening up too early.

 

New infections are at the same if not slightly higher levels than they were in April and are increasing.

Arizona & Texas hospitals are close to capacity.

 

New York & New Jersey are to introduce a 14 day quarantine for people travelling into those states, this isn't people from other countries, but people from about 9 other US states, and the EU is considering banning Americans travelling to the EU.

 

Also Trump hasn't met with any of his medical advisors or anyone from the CDC for around two weeks now.

 

In Mexico, it's been reported that triplets born earlier this week that all 3 have tested positive for Covid-19, however neither the Mother or Father have the virus, yet another new twist to this virus.

[SE16 3LN]

1 hour ago, i8hibsh said:

 

It is a sad indictment on today's society that we have to ask permission for that.

Yes it is. The elderly and the shielding have been ignored by authorities since this began,

[Don Dan]

As we easy our way out of lockdown we need to look at other countries who are 2-4 weeks ahead of us and the spikes they are experiencing. Hopefully  the numbskulls in government are taking lessons and have plans in place to deal with them. 
I also see the covidiots around the country think this is over. Ignoring the advice about social distancing having illegal music events and attacking and injuring police who tried to stop it. Sometimes I feel we (the ignorant that is) get what we deserve when we ignore advice because we think we know better. 

Edited June 25, 2020 by Dannie Boy

[i8hibsh]

1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said:

 

Yep. 

 

 

I speak as an adult who takes caution seriously.  I have been in lockdown but still went to visit my mum.  not being a 5 year old child I was able to visit as an adult.  I kept a distance and detolled behind me.  The NHS did not collapse.

 

The extreme lack of common sense in all this since day one has been staggering.  So much needless sacrafice.  The healthy and non vulnerable should never have been caged in.  Borders should have closed back in January and we should still kept functioning.  

 

The sadness I witnessed a week ago when grown adults stood around tv screens waiting to hear if our leader allowed us to go into our parents house to take a piss.  I could ****ing cry it is so sad.

 

 

Edited June 25, 2020 by i8hibsh

[AlimOzturk]

10 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

I speak as an adult who takes caution seriously.  I have been in lockdown but still went to visit my mum.  not being a 5 year old child I was able to visit as an adult.  I kept a distance and detolled behind me.  The NHS did not collapse.

 

The extreme lack of common sense in all this since day one has been staggering.  So much needless sacrafice.  The healthy and non vulnerable should never have been caged in.  Borders should have closed back in January and we should still kept functioning.  

 

The sadness I witnessed a week ago when grown adults stood around tv screens waiting to hear if our leader allowed us to go into our parents house to take a piss.  I could ****ing cry it is so sad.

 

 

 

Think we have yet to see real pain yet as people start losing jobs en masse as businesses start going under, the biggest economic meltdown imaginable, unbelievable levels of poverty as the gap between rich and poor increases. Can only see the deaths from all of this not to mention the sheer levels of depression folk will suffer to far surpass anything Covid 19 will inflict. 

 

But we must social distance ya ken because there is a virus floating about...and we are constantly told this virus is not going anywhere anywhere unless a vaccine of found. 

 

There must have a better way to suppress this virus than totally and utterly shattering everyone's way of life. 

 

[Ray Gin]

4 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

 

There must have a better way to suppress this virus than totally and utterly shattering everyone's way of life. 

 

 

If there was one we would be doing it. 

 

[AlimOzturk]

Just now, Ray Gin said:

 

If there was one we would be doing it. 

 

 

So destroying everyone's way of life, taking away their freedoms and peoples livelihoods was the way forward then. 

 

Aii very good. 

[Ray Gin]

Some examples of the amazing common sense of the people who "deserve to be treated like adults" in Edinburgh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ray Gin]

Just now, AlimOzturk said:

 

So destroying everyone's way of life, taking away their freedoms and peoples livelihoods was the way forward then. 

 

Aii very good. 

 

It's the way it has been approached by almost every country on the planet, so yeah.

[AlimOzturk]

Just now, Ray Gin said:

 

It's the way it has been approached by almost every country on the planet, so yeah.

 

Seems more like mass control to me. 

 

Call me a conspiracy theorist all you want. 

[i8hibsh]

16 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

 

Think we have yet to see real pain yet as people start losing jobs en masse as businesses start going under, the biggest economic meltdown imaginable, unbelievable levels of poverty as the gap between rich and poor increases. Can only see the deaths from all of this not to mention the sheer levels of depression folk will suffer to far surpass anything Covid 19 will inflict. 

 

But we must social distance ya ken because there is a virus floating about...and we are constantly told this virus is not going anywhere anywhere unless a vaccine of found. 

 

There must have a better way to suppress this virus than totally and utterly shattering everyone's way of life. 

 

 

 

All this second wave nonsense can do one too.  If the NHS was not overwhelmed with the first wave it certianly will not be for the second when we all know more now and live our lives differently.

 

We hear many myths from social media, governments etc but the 'nurses being flat out busy' is the biggest one.  Hospitals were ****ing empty in the main.  We spent over 1 billion on pop ups all over the UK and they were mothballed instantly.

 

Shutting down the economy is not 'saving the NHS' - only an idiot would think so.  We need people working and paying taxes to have a strong NHS.

 

1 in 3 right now are getting free money for **** all.  And without doubt many of them are frustrated and hungry to gert back to work, sadly and inevitably however, many are now liking this lifestyle.

 

Over 10 million people who can work right now are being funded by the tax payer.

 

They feared long queues at the NHS becasue of Corona, **** me, wait until you see the boittlenecks from 4 months of postponments.

 

This has been a disaster, an actual disaster that will long term do far more damage to the healthy than it has the vulnerable.

Edited June 25, 2020 by i8hibsh

[Ray Gin]

What's your solution then? None of the best scientists/epidemic experts on the planet have come up with anything better. 

[Ray Gin]

2 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

All this second wave nonsense can do one too.  If the NHS was not overwhelmed with the first wave it certianly will not be for the second when we all know more now and live our lives differently.

 

 

Check the photos above. Full of people not doing anything any differently as soon as lockdown is slightly relaxed. If people had done this right through the peak of the wave the NHS would have been ****ed.

 

[AlimOzturk]

2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

What's your solution then? None of the best scientists/epidemic experts on the planet have come up with anything better. 

 

"Best" some well respected and one particular Harvard educated specialist I linked to way back suggested the approach the world was taking towards this virus was wrong. That herd immunity was the only to get out of it.

 

But they are labeled quacks and phonies. 

 

Yet the advice from leading epidemic experts from the WHO couldn't even make their minds to with regards to face masks and coverings. 

 

They are actually suggesting now that wearing homemade face coverings made from socks will actually help somehow. ROFL

 

People have been so warped and brainwashed throughout all this. Sad. 

 

Only have to look at the beginning of this thread to see how two faced and easily led some folk are. Especially the most prominent posters. They where mocking this virus and folk wearing masks. 

[i8hibsh]

6 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Check the photos above. Full of people not doing anything any differently as soon as lockdown is slightly relaxed. If people had done this right through the peak of the wave the NHS would have been ****ed.

 

 

 

You can't cage 68 millioon people RG. People have rights and their liberties should not be supressed.  There has been no balance or common sense since day 1.  

 

I am not for 1 second saying we should not have taken precautions but caging healthy people was not the way.  We live in a world now where people are getting dirty looks for being out in a park.  The police in the UK were receiving 200,000 calls PER DAY of people complaining about "COVIDIOTS".

 

But we allowed tens of thousands of people congregating with placards over _____insert whatever is the latest feel good cause here______ with zero ****s given.  We have lost control of our lives and I am not exaggerating.  The government now own our bollocks.

Edited June 25, 2020 by i8hibsh

[i8hibsh]

Jobs are the most important part of any society.  You have a country working and everything will fit in and take care of itself.

Edited June 25, 2020 by i8hibsh

[Ray Gin]

5 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

 

"Best" some well respected and one particular Harvard educated specialist I linked to way back suggested the approach the world was taking towards this virus was wrong. That herd immunity was the only to get out of it.

 

But they are labeled quacks and phonies. 

 

Yet the advice from leading epidemic experts from the WHO couldn't even make their minds to with regards to face masks and coverings. 

 

They are actually suggesting now that wearing homemade face coverings made from socks will actually help somehow. ROFL

 

People have been so warped and brainwashed throughout all this. Sad. 

 

Only have to look at the beginning of this thread to see how two faced and easily led some folk are. Especially the most prominent posters. They where mocking this virus and folk wearing masks. 

Sweden attempted that and made an arse of it. Britain tried it at the start and quickly realised what a cluster**** it would be.

 

People are getting Covid-19, recovering, and then getting it a 2nd time. Herd immunity isn't an option.

 

[Steve_Jersey_HMFC]

Good luck to Scotland and rest of UK as you begin to open up again. Here in Jersey we started easing out of lockdown in early May, with al fresco dining and small gatherings outside allowed. A couple weeks ago we moved to allowing indoor dining, small inside gatherings, hotels re-open, gyms partially re-opened. Tomorrow we go down to 1m (not 1m plus) and next week the pubs can operate a drink only service (so far you have had to buy food and be limited to 2 hours and only sat with people from your household). Its been nice to sit out in the sunshine with a pint or two! We haven't seen any spike, we have about 5 active cases in the Island even with testing efforts increasing, and we have fortunately only had 15 deaths where the patient was confirmed to have covid 19 (another 16 presumed to have died with it).

 

There's a debate for the Island just now as we look to re-open our borders next week or two. Currently you can only travel to/from the Island if essential and have to isolate for 14 days when you return. All commercial air and ferry services stopped in March other than lifeline services to Southampton and Gatwick by Blue Islands mostly used by persons travelling for health reasons to the UK (eg for chemo in Southampton).

 

They are trialling and hope to introduce on a mass scale testing at the airport so you get tested when you arrive, isolate initially, and then 48 hours later tested again and if you are negative you can then be free to go out and about. If you elect not to be tested you still have to isolate for 14 days (not a big deal for people who can work at home but would kill any chance of someone coming over for a visit as a tourist). So the testing option is a crucial step to allow travel in/out the Island to resume. I am personally particularly hopeful of the direct service to Edinburgh getting up and running again particularly as I have just bought an ST for the first time.

 

Our neighbours in Guernsey have not had any active cases for about a month and have effectively gone back to normal, not even any social distancing required. There are some here who say we should do the same, and keep the ports shut. However, that is an isolationist policy and hard to sustain if Covid is around for a while an no vaccine is found. If we followed that policy our hospitality industry would suffer greatly from no tourism and it would be detrimental to many Islanders' mental health not being able to visit family and friends in the UK, Ireland, France, Madeira, Poland etc, not to mention it could decimate future air and ferry links and leave us cut off. We have spent lots of money on infrastructure such as our own £14m Nightingale hospital, mass stocks of PPE and the steroid drug, so hopefully are in a strong position should there be an increase in cases as and when incoming travel increases.

[Ray Gin]

12 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

You can't cage 68 millioon people RG. People have rights and their liberties should not be supressed.  There has been no balance or common sense since day 1.  

 

I am not for 1 second saying we should not have taken precautions but caging healthy people was not the way.  We live in a world now where people are getting dirty looks for being out in a park.  The police in the UK were receiving 200,000 calls PER DAY of people complaining about "COVIDIOTS".

 

But we allowed tens of thousands of people congregating with placards over _____insert whatever is the latest feel good cause here______ with zero ****s given.  We have lost control of our lives and I am not exaggerating.  The government now own our bollocks.

 

You can, and it worked. Look at the graphs of countries that stuck with lockdown compared to America's (who were very quick to abandon it).

 

[AlimOzturk]

3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

Sweden attempted that and made an arse of it. Britain tried it at the start and quickly realised what a cluster**** it would be.

 

People are getting Covid-19, recovering, and then getting it a 2nd time. Herd immunity isn't an option.

 

 

I could maybe have bought the whole lockdown procedure if there was some sort of coherent plan in place. But they have just made things up as they go along with the folk in charge ignoring certain scientific advice and listening to other. Then you have the officials ignoring the advice they set out and expect the general public not to. 

 

You have quoted small bit of my posts and ignored the rest because you simply don't have an answer for it. All you have to say is "listen to the advice"  "people are terrible for going to a park" ect..

 

[i8hibsh]

1 minute ago, Ray Gin said:

 

You can, and it worked. Look at the graphs of countries that stuck with lockdown compared to America's (who were very quick to abandon it).

 

 

 

There are so many examples of countries that had no lockdown and are doing better then us.  The game changer was the borders.  We should have not pulled the shuttters down on the economy, we should have just pulled them down temporarilly at the borders.

 

I have a theory that those in support of the lockdown are those who are enjoying the 'getting paid for **** all' part of it too much.  

[Ray Gin]

1 minute ago, AlimOzturk said:

 

I could maybe have bought the whole lockdown procedure if there was some sort of coherent plan in place. But they have just made things up as they go along with the folk in charge ignoring certain scientific advice and listening to other. Then you have the officials ignoring the advice they set out and expect the general public not to. 

 

You have quoted small bit of my posts and ignored the rest because you simply don't have an answer for it. All you have to say is "listen to the advice"  "people are terrible for going to a park" ect..

 

 

I ignored it as it was drivel. This is a brand new disease, nobody has all the answers right away and we're learning more and more as we go along.

[Ray Gin]

1 minute ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

There are so many examples of countries that had no lockdown and are doing better then us.  The game changer was the borders.  We should have not pulled the shuttters down on the economy, we should have just pulled them down temporarilly at the borders.

 

I have a theory that those in support of the lockdown are those who are enjoying the 'getting paid for **** all' part of it too much.  

 

Your theory is crap as I'm still working from home.

 

Lockdown sucks but it is necessary. I want to go to the pub and out for meals in restaurants as much as anyone. I'm just not selfish enough to want to do so at the cost of lives.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I still don't understand how for example Africa with massively overcrowded cities living in absolute squalor do not have death tolls in the hundreds of thousands and especially with the initial information stating black people may be more susceptible.

It appears to be far more prevalent and rife in the more affluent nations.

 

Tin hat firmly on.

[AlimOzturk]

2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Your theory is crap as I'm still working from home.

 

Lockdown sucks but it is necessary. I want to go to the pub and out for meals in restaurants as much as anyone. I'm just not selfish enough to want to do so at the cost of lives.

 

 

Going for a meal and a pint costs lives  does it ****. 

 

They have you brainwashed to ****. 

[AlimOzturk]

4 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

I ignored it as it was drivel. This is a brand new disease, nobody has all the answers right away and we're learning more and more as we go along.

 

Aii, putting a sock over your face will help stop the spread of the disease. 

[i8hibsh]

5 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Your theory is crap as I'm still working from home.

 

Lockdown sucks but it is necessary. I want to go to the pub and out for meals in restaurants as much as anyone. I'm just not selfish enough to want to do so at the cost of lives.

 

 

 

Zero proof to this.  FACT

 

You seem to be a crusader for social justice RG so please answer me this.  Is it fair that many people are still busting their balls right now and some people are in many cases getting more money than someone who is working working to sit and do **** all apart from drink and have fun with the kids?

 

Take a postie for example.  They work right through and with the greatest of respect to them (and I very much do) will be earning less than the high end furlough payments.  Is this fair to you?

 

 

[Pasquale for King]

On 23/06/2020 at 13:48, neilnunb said:

Novak Djokovic tests positive 

 

🙈

 

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/53148053

 

 

He should be getting done in some way, what a ****ing idiot. I’m sure his god will look after him though.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/22/novak-djokovic-sends-12438151/

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2020/jun/22/novak-djokovic-has-learned-he-cannot-hide-from-coronavirus-in-his-own-bubble

Edited June 25, 2020 by Pasquale for King

[i8hibsh]

I fully understand why the Furlough scheme was rolled out but it is so grossly unfair to those who work.

[Pasquale for King]

23 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Your theory is crap as I'm still working from home.

 

Lockdown sucks but it is necessary. I want to go to the pub and out for meals in restaurants as much as anyone. I'm just not selfish enough to want to do so at the cost of lives.

 

Exactly, which is why they’re shut even down South. 
Let’s hope nobody was spreading it yesterday in Bournemouth.

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18540748.live-clear-up-way-thousands-flock-beaches/

 

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18539567.bcp-council-leader-asks-visitors-stay-away-dorset/

Edited June 25, 2020 by Pasquale for King

[Beni]

15 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I still don't understand how for example Africa with massively overcrowded cities living in absolute squalor do not have death tolls in the hundreds of thousands and especially with the initial information stating black people may be more susceptible.

It appears to be far more prevalent and rife in the more affluent nations.

 

Tin hat firmly on.

 

A few things which will probably be contributing. The population is on average much younger so less affected. There could be less comorbidities, ie obesity diabetes etc. There seems to be a link between vitamin D levels and susceptibility to covid, and darker skin absorbs less sunlight and therefore less vit D is produced. This might be important in Europe but less so in Africa.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ray Gin]

16 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Zero proof to this.  FACT

 

You seem to be a crusader for social justice RG so please answer me this.  Is it fair that many people are still busting their balls right now and some people are in many cases getting more money than someone who is working working to sit and do **** all apart from drink and have fun with the kids?

 

Take a postie for example.  They work right through and with the greatest of respect to them (and I very much do) will be earning less than the high end furlough payments.  Is this fair to you?

 

 

 

Maybe not. But being one of those who has to work while several of my colleagues are furloughed, I can genuinely say I don't care. People's health is more important than being disgruntled about working more than someone else.

 

[i8hibsh]

Just now, Ray Gin said:

 

Maybe not. But being one of those who has to work while several of my colleagues are furloughed, I can genuinely say I don't care. People's health is more important than being disgruntled about working more than someone else.

 

 

 

How can you gaurantee good health without Corona?

[Ray Gin]

23 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

 

Going for a meal and a pint costs lives  does it ****. 

 

They have you brainwashed to ****. 

 

Spreading the virus around won't cost lives? Don't be an idiot.

 

[Ray Gin]

Just now, i8hibsh said:

 

 

How can you gaurantee good health without Corona?

 

What?

[i8hibsh]

I know people on 100% furlough.  Even to get 80% you are still not too badly off.  

 

a) you are not at work - woohoo!

b) you are not spending money at work or getting to and from work.

 

You even get your holiday entitlement.

 

This is not a dig at thos on furlough as I know it sucks for many of them but it sucks big time to me.  I've worked right through, from my flat which is not suited for it.  I have days where I am so stressed at work and with my environment that I get chest pains.  Whereas some people are getting paid to chill, drink and have family time.

 

It needs to end now!

[AlimOzturk]

1 minute ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Spreading the virus around won't cost lives? Don't be an idiot.

 

 

You continue being feared I'll get on with my life using common sense. 

[i8hibsh]

3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

What?

 

 

People talk like withouth Corona there are no diseases, viruses germs or risk. I re-itterate....there is ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF that this lockdown has saved even 1 life.  It is impossible to prove as you would have to have some parallel universe where you did not have it to then compare.  

 

So many countries did not have a lockdown and have far better statistics than ours.  there is the basis for my arguent.

 

In a world before COVID19, someone would cycle to work everyday.  There is risk involved in this but the risk was outweighed by the need to work.

[Pasquale for King]

10 minutes ago, fancy a brew said:

 

A few things which will probably be contributing. The population is on average much younger so less affected. There could be less comorbidities, ie obesity diabetes etc. There seems to be a link between vitamin D levels and susceptibility to covid, and darker skin absorbs less sunlight and therefore less vit D is produced. This might be important in Europe but less so in Africa.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It seems it might not have reached its peak there unfortunately.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/12/analysis-africa-s-unexpected-covid-19-figures

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2020/05/16/why-covid-19-seems-to-spread-more-slowly-in-africa

[Ray Gin]

9 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

I know people on 100% furlough.  Even to get 80% you are still not too badly off.  

 

a) you are not at work - woohoo!

b) you are not spending money at work or getting to and from work.

 

You even get your holiday entitlement.

 

This is not a dig at thos on furlough as I know it sucks for many of them but it sucks big time to me.  I've worked right through, from my flat which is not suited for it.  I have days where I am so stressed at work and with my environment that I get chest pains.  Whereas some people are getting paid to chill, drink and have family time.

 

It needs to end now!

 

I'm glad we've got to the real root of your reason for not thinking we should have a lockdown. 

Being in a huff about having to work when other people are on furlough.  

 

[i8hibsh]

13 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

I'm glad we've got to the real root of your reason for not thinking we should have a lockdown. 

Being in a huff about having to work when other people are on furlough.  

 

 

One of many:

 

My life being on hold

The deterioration of my relationship

The deterioration of my mental wellbeing

Depression

Not being able to have my knee op (privately)

Working whilst others don't and getting paid for it

Putting on weight

I am drinking more

Boredom

Lack of any freedoms

My civil liberties being compromised

Not seeing my inner circle as much as I would like

 

Edited June 25, 2020 by i8hibsh

[i8hibsh]

I don't think this list will be exclusive to me btw but it is certainly my list.

[Cade]

something something the politics of envy

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

 

It is a sad indictment on today's society that we have to ask permission for that.

Yes I felt that was the absolute nadir of the whole epidemic when people had become so feart / controlled they were asking on this if it was ok to use their parents loo if they visited them . I am meeting fanily later and looking forward to it , it will be socially distance as much as possible : hand washing etc . Tomorrow a friend is visiting me and staying so I’m probably breaching the guidelines ? But it’s up to us to make our own risk assessment . We are all adults and are able to make these decisions . I’m not attending a massive rave with copious amounts of people etc 

[graygo]

41 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

I fully understand why the Furlough scheme was rolled out but it is so grossly unfair to those who work.

 

So you don't understand why the furlough scheme was rolled out then.

[i8hibsh]

1 minute ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes I felt that was the absolute nadir of the whole epidemic when people had become so feart / controlled they were asking on this if it was ok to use their parents loo if they visited them . I am meeting fanily later and looking forward to it , it will be socially distance as much as possible : hand washing etc . Tomorrow a friend is visiting me and staying so I’m probably breaching the guidelines ? But it’s up to us to make our own risk assessment . We are all adults and are able to make these decisions . I’m not attending a massive rave with copious amounts of people etc 

 

Good to hear and hope you have the fun you are entitled to.

 

Have a wine for me.