JudyJudyJudy Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Dennis Denuto said: I am just pointing out your continued hypocrisy on everything Covid related. As to the announcement from the SG, it is something for me and Mrs Denuto to discuss once the JVCI advice is published. What hypocrisy are you on about ? I’ve always been anti vaccine for children under 16 and indeed adults ( who are healthy ) so your writing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Denuto Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, JamesM48 said: What hypocrisy are you on about ? I’ve always been anti vaccine for children under 16 and indeed adults ( who are healthy ) so your writing Sorry I thought your position has always been pro-choice, pretty sure you have used that phrase more than once or twice..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Dennis Denuto said: Sorry I thought your position has always been pro-choice, pretty sure you have used that phrase more than once or twice..... Yes pro choice I meant . Your getting desperate now ! 😂 see this is why I hardly ever post on this car crash of a thread really . It’s a shame when it gets bumped as the same silly arguments re surface . It’s so juvenile . Just ground hog day on this . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, JamesM48 said: Yes pro choice I meant . Your getting desperate now ! 😂 see this is why I hardly ever post on this car crash of a thread really . It’s a shame when it gets bumped as the same silly arguments re surface . It’s so juvenile . Just ground hog day on this . Its a car crash because you and Yes Enzo drove it into a wall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, JamesM48 said: Yes pro choice I meant . Your getting desperate now ! 😂 see this is why I hardly ever post on this car crash of a thread really . It’s a shame when it gets bumped as the same silly arguments re surface . It’s so juvenile . Just ground hog day on this . Wait, James....hardly ever post ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Boab said: Wait, James....hardly ever post ? Lol not in a few weeks which is good for me ! 😂 only commented on this as it’s an important issue . I’ll bid goodbye for a few weeks again or longer ! It’s no worth the stress on this thread to be honest adios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Just now, JamesM48 said: Lol not in a few weeks which is good for me ! 😂 only commented on this as it’s an important issue . I’ll bid goodbye for a few weeks again or longer ! It’s no worth the stress on this thread to be honest adios No worries, mate. It's no biggie really. The uptake of the offer will be extremely low. That's a confident prediction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Denuto Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Yes pro choice I meant . Your getting desperate now ! 😂 see this is why I hardly ever post on this car crash of a thread really . It’s a shame when it gets bumped as the same silly arguments re surface . It’s so juvenile . Just ground hog day on this . So if you are pro-choice you should be in favour of this announcement (pending the full publication from JVCI). Glad we cleared that up, I'd hate it if people got the wrong impression and assumed you just posted negatively of anything the SG announces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Denuto Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Just now, Boab said: No worries, mate. It's no biggie really. The uptake of the offer will be extremely low. That's a confident prediction. It is going to be pretty low as a load of them have recently had Covid, it is a pity this wasn't announced at the turn of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Lol not in a few weeks which is good for me ! 😂 only commented on this as it’s an important issue . I’ll bid goodbye for a few weeks again or longer ! It’s no worth the stress on this thread to be honest adios Great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 It's like a thread imitating epidemiology. A sudden wave of James' idiocy, followed by (hopefully) a trough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said: It is going to be pretty low as a load of them have recently had Covid, it is a pity this wasn't announced at the turn of the year. It's a risk decision for parents. Without knowing their kids current levels of immunity it's not possible to assess those risks. Know lots of kids who have had covid 2 times, got to question why you would then jab them on top of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lord BJ said: Scotland to follow Wales and offer jabs to 5-11 year olds. They should offer them thicker socks to keep their feet warm from drafty classroom doors. Are the "wish" version of Vallance and Whitty advocating it? Edited February 16, 2022 by Jonkel Hoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Denuto Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: It's a risk decision for parents. Without knowing their kids current levels of immunity it's not possible to assess those risks. Know lots of kids who have had covid 2 times, got to question why you would then jab them on top of that. My kids both had it recently and had zero symptoms, but they did pass it on to each other and me. It’s tough to know if being jagged would prevent them unknowingly pass it to grandparents etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Dennis Denuto said: My kids both had it recently and had zero symptoms, but they did pass it on to each other and me. It’s tough to know if being jagged would prevent them unknowingly pass it to grandparents etc. The questions I'm asking are ones their grandparents would expect to be asked. I'll keep an open view and do more reading, but I continue to struggle with the concept of vaccinating small children against a disease where they may already have a degree of natural immunity . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 From the , what I've read indicates that the risks to kids of covid, in terms of ill health and long covid is higher than the risk of an adverse reaction to the vaccine. There are a large amount of kids who are struggling with covid (see here: Child COVID-19 Cases, Long Covid, Hospital Admissions & Deaths 23rd January 2022 (longcovidkids.org)) so my assessment is that offering the vaccine is a positive thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 hours ago, JamesM48 said: What hypocrisy are you on about ? I’ve always been anti vaccine for children under 16 and indeed adults ( who are healthy ) so your writing It would appear that the majority of those kids U16 (and their parents) disagree with your anti-vax for youngsters stance. From today's stats, 69.8% of 12-15 year old Scots have had at least one dose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lord Montpelier said: It's a risk decision for parents. Without knowing their kids current levels of immunity it's not possible to assess those risks. Know lots of kids who have had covid 2 times, got to question why you would then jab them on top of that. That should give you a clue. The whole point is to give them the jab to avoid , at least, long Covid. When you say "it's not possible to assess those risks" - it is possible to look out for research that supports (or not) any particular perspective and make an informed decision rather than simply dismiss vaccination for children. Edited February 16, 2022 by NANOJAMBO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: That should give you a clue. The whole point is to give them the jab to avoid , at least, long Covid. When you say "it's not possible to assess those risks" - it is possible to look out for research that supports (or not) any particular perspective and make an informed decision rather than simply dismiss vaccination for children. I have not yet met one single child with long covid from the current variant. I know many who have had it. For the vast majority it's proven to be not much more than a cold. I think it's therefore only prudent to ask questions. If I could categorically understand my kids current levels of immunity it may sway me one way or another . Why jab if immunity is high and present ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: I have not yet met one single child with long covid from the current variant. I know many who have had it. For the vast majority it's proven to be not much more than a cold. I think it's therefore only prudent to ask questions. If I could categorically understand my kids current levels of immunity it may sway me one way or another . Why jab if immunity is high and present ? Immunity isn't high - not that I've seen argued. I accept it's difficult to keep abreast of the latest reasearch in a constantly changing landscape - but I haven't seen anything that doesn't advocate vax for kids. My kids are old enough to make their own decisons but I really can't understand how you can say "immunity is high" when you also say you know of lots of kids who have suffered multiple infections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Footballfirst said: It would appear that the majority of those kids U16 (and their parents) disagree with your anti-vax for youngsters stance. From today's stats, 69.8% of 12-15 year old Scots have had at least one dose. That is higher than I expected. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Surprised wee nippy let Drakeford lead the way with this as she's always hoped to jag our kids. Vaccine passes required for the tuck shop next 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Just now, escobri said: Surprised wee nippy let Drakeford lead the way with this as she's always hoped to jag our kids. Vaccine passes required for the tuck shop next 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: OK sorry, wee Jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, escobri said: OK sorry, wee Jimmy As long as Nicola is annoying you job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Dennis Denuto said: It is advice from the JVCI, which the SG have followed to the letter up to now. Did she not go against jvci and go with the cmo's advice about teenagers? Can't quite remember the exact details hence the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: As long as Nicola is annoying you job done. Not annoyed but. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Covid's last year's news guys. Let it go. It's fuel, inflation and Russia we're meant to worry about now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, escobri said: Surprised wee nippy let Drakeford lead the way with this as she's always hoped to jag our kids. Vaccine passes required for the tuck shop next 🤣 England and Northern Ireland are following suit too. Bloody SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 SG follow jcvi advice and the usual suspects lose their shit. Imagine giving parents and their children a choice, bloody tyrants so they are. Mind you, Boris has followed suit now so they'll probably disappear from this thread again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: England and Northern Ireland are following suit too. Bloody SNP. As expected. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 46 minutes ago, Taffin said: Covid's last year's news guys. Let it go. It's fuel, inflation and Russia we're meant to worry about now When you say "meant to worry about" - do you not worry about inflation, soaring fuel costs etc? Sounds like you see even the cost of living crisis as some nebulous fictional construct designed to keep us in fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Apologies if this is common knowledge already, but I heard yesterday that some people have started to receive letters for a 4th vaccine. It sounds like targeting those vulnerable with underlying health conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 People still using Nippy, Krankie, Jimmy etc. The patter of wankstains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Gizmo said: When you say "meant to worry about" - do you not worry about inflation, soaring fuel costs etc? Sounds like you see even the cost of living crisis as some nebulous fictional construct designed to keep us in fear. I don't really see the point in worrying about it...it won't make it go away. Face into it and mitigate as best you can, but worrying never solved anything. Meant to worry is in reference to the media and their desire to make people worried and follow their news items in a quest for data on the topics. Edited February 17, 2022 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beave1874 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 hours ago, pablo said: Apologies if this is common knowledge already, but I heard yesterday that some people have started to receive letters for a 4th vaccine. It sounds like targeting those vulnerable with underlying health conditions. Had a 4th jab in December, been happening for a wee while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Taffin said: I don't really see the point in worrying about it...it won't make it go away. Face into it and mitigate as best you can, but worrying never solved anything. Meant to worry is in reference to the media and their desire to make people worried and follow their news items in a quest for data on the topics. Whilst I get the point, I've been on the flip side of my current situation where a single increased bill or failure of household equipment was devastating. The poor souls who work hard yet are in that boat due to spiralling living costs and crap wages don't need the media to tell them to worry - worry and stress becomes the default operating mode. It is incredibly damaging to mental health as you end up in a fight or flight mode constantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Gizmo said: Whilst I get the point, I've been on the flip side of my current situation where a single increased bill or failure of household equipment was devastating. The poor souls who work hard yet are in that boat due to spiralling living costs and crap wages don't need the media to tell them to worry - worry and stress becomes the default operating mode. It is incredibly damaging to mental health as you end up in a fight or flight mode constantly. Indeed, which is precisely why I don't worry about it. Worry about what you can control, not what you can't imo. A failure of household equipment would cause me a not insignificant issue right now, but until it happens I won't stress or worry about it...for the simple reason it may not happen. My bills have gone up, so I've started turning my heating down and wearing a fleece about the house to try and save a bit of cash. I'm not downplaying the pressures people are under, I just don't believe there's any point in worrying about. Same as there was no point worrying about catching Covid. It didn't influence how likely you were to catch it, your actions did. Edited February 17, 2022 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 23 hours ago, Taffin said: Covid's last year's news guys. Let it go. It's fuel, inflation and Russia we're meant to worry about now I wonder if there will be a vaccine for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Well, after around two years of avoiding it, myself and the wife have both tested positive. She has no symptoms and other than a cough that’s developed, I feel fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, iantjambo said: Well, after around two years of avoiding it, myself and the wife have both tested positive. She has no symptoms and other than a cough that’s developed, I feel fine. Hopefully you’ll soon be back to normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 17/02/2022 at 07:55, pablo said: Apologies if this is common knowledge already, but I heard yesterday that some people have started to receive letters for a 4th vaccine. It sounds like targeting those vulnerable with underlying health conditions. Mrs got her letter mid week,she works in the NHS.at this rate she's considering getting a dartboard tattoo on her arm tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) You do what you have to do. If that means taking a jag once every 6 months/year, that's what you do or we don't and allow it to get the better of us. Edited February 19, 2022 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 11 hours ago, jonesy said: And storms. For ultimate giggles, they need to replace the likes of Arwen and Eunice with the names of some of the covid superstars like Van Tam, Whitby and Sridhar. Can just imagine what havoc Storm Leitch will cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, jonesy said: Sorry James, that's not funny. SAGE have spent the pandemic offering fair, scientifically-driven and data-derived advice, and ought to be respected rather than mocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, jonesy said: Sorry James, that's not funny. SAGE have spent the pandemic offering fair, scientifically-driven and data-derived advice, and ought to be respected rather than mocked. Jokes are everywhere this morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 When do we get our 2nd booster? Three months after the last? Or does the booster last longer than the 2nd vaccine did? Do we have to be proactive, and seek it out or will be informed when it's time? Has there been any govt statement on the future, re: covid vaccines, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 3 hours ago, JamesM48 said: 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lithuania Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Tested positive this afternoon. Couldn’t believe it. Had a sore throat one day last week but due to attending a mates wedding tomorrow I tested like the responsible person I am. Unfortunately I can’t go and I’m a couple hundred quid out of pocket but what can you do? Hard to accept when I feel fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Captain Lithuania said: Tested positive this afternoon. Couldn’t believe it. Had a sore throat one day last week but due to attending a mates wedding tomorrow I tested like the responsible person I am. Unfortunately I can’t go and I’m a couple hundred quid out of pocket but what can you do? Hard to accept when I feel fine. Perhaps someone on here can go in your place? Good on you for being responsible. Perhaps retest tomorrow morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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