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26 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said:


I know 2 or 3 folk who regularly blast a few lines at the weekend who are big on the experimental vaccine propaganda.

 

Happy to fire plant food, rat poison and god knows what else up their beak at any given opportunity but shout from the rooftops about a vaccine designed to save their lives 😂

 

 

Yes but least you can have a good time on them ! 

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31 minutes ago, kila said:


They were giving out a joint for a jag in some US states :D

 

I cant be bothered with weed anymore but that's the kind of coercive government policy I appreciate.

 

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1 minute ago, Victorian said:

6 days now of the total daily infections being very similar.  Rate has crept up a bit but not by much.  The next week will be interesting.

Suppressed for now.

This virus isnt done by a long shot.

Not suggesting all doom but it has a mutation rate that's impressive.

And no I'm not hiding in the house .

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14 minutes ago, Ked said:

I cant be bothered with weed anymore but that's the kind of coercive government policy I appreciate.

 

You must be getting old ! It happens 😎

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Sister drove to Dalkeith at 11am this morning from Musselburgh as that was the closest pcr testing site, she arrived to be told they had run out of test kits 😂😂 

Well they did have a few left but had to keep them for people would had already booked an appointment today but if you just turned up they had no tests left and were turned away 

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2 hours ago, Victorian said:

6 days now of the total daily infections being very similar.  Rate has crept up a bit but not by much.  The next week will be interesting.

 

Freshers Week. Rises are inevitable, I'd imagine.

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5 hours ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

We booked ours with Boots. First slots were mid October for our nearest Boots which is in Stirling.

 

Ah, think I'm with you now, I'm assuming that's not through the NHS, hence why you need to book the jab.

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14 minutes ago, Taffin said:

I see Australia has turned its back on it's covid zero approach.

 

Seems an odd choice given I read on here it was such an excellent strategy.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-58406526

It was, that's why they were the last developed nation to reach a thousand deaths, last week. All those lives saved, brilliant.

 

Their plan is to start easing restrictions in a couple of months once they get to 70% vaccination coverage, open borders at 80%

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12 minutes ago, Taffin said:

I see Australia has turned its back on it's covid zero approach.

 

Seems an odd choice given I read on here it was such an excellent strategy.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-58406526

 

It was a reasonable strategy based on the belief that the vaccines would,  not only protect people,  but also have a much better sterilising performance.  Newer variants have knocked that for six.  

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2 minutes ago, Smithee said:

It was, that's why they were the last developed nation to reach a thousand deaths, last week. All those lives saved, brilliant.

 

Their plan is to start easing restrictions in a couple of months once they get to 70% vaccination coverage, open borders at 80%

 

What's their plan to suddenly make people want the vaccine they've been refusing for months?

 

Their initial approach was great. We should have done it. They also should have then dropped it and went with vaccines months and months ago.

 

 

1 minute ago, Victorian said:

 

It was a reasonable strategy based on the belief that the vaccines would,  not only protect people,  but also have a much better sterilising performance.  Newer variants have knocked that for six.  

 

They have indeed. 

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8 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

What's their plan to suddenly make people want the vaccine they've been refusing for months?

 

Their initial approach was great. We should have done it. They also should have then dropped it and went with vaccines months and months ago.

 

 

 

They have indeed. 

 

I don't know, I'm just saying it was indeed a good plan.

They're vaccinating faster than we did at our peak just now BTW

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53 minutes ago, Smithee said:

It was, that's why they were the last developed nation to reach a thousand deaths, last week. All those lives saved, brilliant.

Meanwhile we chalked up over 760 deaths last week. One single week.

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1 hour ago, Taffin said:

I see Australia has turned its back on it's covid zero approach.

 

Seems an odd choice given I read on here it was such an excellent strategy.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-58406526

 

32 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

They're vaccinating faster than we did at our peak just now BTW

 

I was reading this earlier.

The first time I'd looked at how their vax rollout was going, and the last I'd heard it was very slow, but they are indeed going very fast now.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/ng-interactive/2021/aug/31/which-parts-australia-have-highest-vaccination-rate-by-state-nsw-sydney-victoria-melbourne-lga-suburb-check-your-area-vaccine-rates-number-coverage-percentage-percent-population-look-up-interactive-map

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30 minutes ago, Beni said:

 

 

I was reading this earlier.

The first time I'd looked at how their vax rollout was going, and the last I'd heard it was very slow, but they are indeed going very fast now.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/ng-interactive/2021/aug/31/which-parts-australia-have-highest-vaccination-rate-by-state-nsw-sydney-victoria-melbourne-lga-suburb-check-your-area-vaccine-rates-number-coverage-percentage-percent-population-look-up-interactive-map

their rollout started slow as lots of them were refusing the AZ vaccine and waiting for the pfizer one but at that point they had none or very little of the pfizer vaccine. that most likely has now changed

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37 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Meanwhile we chalked up over 760 deaths last week. One single week.

 

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3 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

There's been 155,053 deaths where Coronavirus is mention on the death certificate.

 

 

Stop changing the goal posts . We are talking about now ! 

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2 hours ago, Smithee said:

It was, that's why they were the last developed nation to reach a thousand deaths, last week. All those lives saved, brilliant.

 

Their plan is to start easing restrictions in a couple of months once they get to 70% vaccination coverage, open borders at 80%

How many of the "saved" lives have or had sadly passed away from other causes?  

The entire population have lost nearly 2 years of their lives due to a flawed strategy that now sees them painted into a corner. 

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1 hour ago, Deke Thornton said:

Got Covid despite being double vaccinated. Would like to take a break in the sun to aid recovery but hearing that people can still test positive weeks/months after recovering from Covid even though they’re no longer infectious. So how do our travel rules take account of this?
 

Take care of yourself.

Always wondered how many positive tests are picking up non infectious "cases".

Lateral flow far more accurate for capturing those who are infectious.

The oversensitive PCR was never intended for the purpose for which it is being used.

Great for boosting daily "case" numbers though.

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Just now, GBJambo said:

Exactly that’s over 2 years of deaths! 

I know they are only happy when it’s miserable news it seems , or distort good news into bad . Dearie me . 

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6 minutes ago, GBJambo said:

Exactly that’s over 2 years of deaths! 

Yes, for context people need to know that approx 1.2 million people have died in the UK during the same period.

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16 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

How many of the "saved" lives have or had sadly passed away from other causes?  

The entire population have lost nearly 2 years of their lives due to a flawed strategy that now sees them painted into a corner. 

 

"Saved"? :laugh2:

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Here we go again. Getting on for double the cases we had a week ago, and a big increase in ICU/hospitalisations.

 

Scottish numbers: 6 September 2021

Summary

  • 7,065 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+697; up from 3,893 a week ago]
  • 52,193 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [+4,160]
    • 14.5% of these were positive [+0.3%]
  • 0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are generally closed at weekends) [=]
  • 71 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+10]
  • 771 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+52]
  • 4,126,263 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,736,762 have received their second dose [+4,301; +9,993]
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8 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Here we go again. Getting on for double the cases we had a week ago, and a big increase in ICU/hospitalisations.

 

Scottish numbers: 6 September 2021

Summary

  • 7,065 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+697; up from 3,893 a week ago]
  • 52,193 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [+4,160]
    • 14.5% of these were positive [+0.3%]
  • 0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are generally closed at weekends) [=]
  • 71 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+10]
  • 771 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+52]
  • 4,126,263 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,736,762 have received their second dose [+4,301; +9,993]

 

That is a serious jump in hospitalisations. :( 

 

Rapidly heading towards 1000

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The latest trend stats.

 

      7-day per-100,000 cases                
Council Area WHO   Today Yesterday     5 Sep 4 Sep 3 Sep 2 Sep 1 Sep ... 1 Aug
Scotland 4   821 763 +58   777 772 774 747 726 ... 149
                           
North Lanarkshire 4   1284 1219 +65   1260 1278 1292 1261 1214 ... 192
Inverclyde 4   1257 1215 +42   1244 1220 1235 1238 1132 ... 225
West Dunbartonshire 4   1235 1126 +109   1130 1138 1115 1105 1149 ... 221
Renfrewshire 4   1156 1108 +48   1122 1098 1067 1041 1037 ... 135
East Renfrewshire 4   1093 1008 +85   1117 1112 1130 1080 997 ... 122
Glasgow City 4   1062 999 +63   1035 1030 1007 989 954 ... 169
East Dunbartonshire 4   1023 984 +39   1071 1131 1196 1150 1171 ... 131
Clackmannanshire 4   1020 901 +119   815 860 788 704 706 ... 174
South Lanarkshire 4   1015 947 +68   992 1009 1035 1013 964 ... 208
Midlothian 4   872 794 +78   787 808 831 754 681 ... 160
Falkirk 4   844 749 +95   752 741 733 690 653 ... 131
North Ayrshire 4   833 775 +58   801 784 787 772 724 ... 165
Argyll & Bute 4   824 770 +54   760 768 766 712 756 ... 107
Dundee City 4   824 751 +73   764 746 735 697 672 ... 155
West Lothian 4   773 729 +44   722 704 709 668 690 ... 187
Fife 4   770 707 +63   667 642 635 597 563 ... 154
Edinburgh City 4   753 691 +62   706 708 758 722 710 ... 140
South Ayrshire 4   706 646 +60   719 713 701 658 629 ... 143
East Ayrshire 4   698 655 +43   711 657 645 627 609 ... 122
Stirling 4   689 619 +70   608 641 628 628 596 ... 163
East Lothian 4   678 620 +58   641 687 689 604 602 ... 157
Highland 4   619 567 +52   559 549 546 531 517 ... 105
Dumfries & Galloway 4   584 585 -1   610 585 615 620 635 ... 140
Angus 4   577 508 +69   509 479 469 430 401 ... 113
Aberdeenshire 4   559 497 +62   471 456 442 424 411 ... 93
Aberdeen City 4   525 465 +60   450 421 411 414 392 ... 141
Scottish Borders 4   471 445 +26   448 436 442 430 445 ... 107
Perth & Kinross 4   363 321 +42   325 310 306 297 313 ... 95
Shetland Islands 4   302 306 -4   345 284 284 262 227 ... 74
Moray 4   225 203 +22   209 200 184 183 194 ... 96
Na h-Eileanan Siar 4   185 185 0   174 177 170 170 192 ... 208
Orkney Islands 3   80 67 +13   71 71 67 67 54 ... 9
                           
                           
7-day averages     Today Yesterday     5 Sep 4 Sep 3 Sep 2 Sep 1 Sep ... 1 Aug
Tests     53142 49869 +3273   50941 49858 48710 46368 45041 ... 23705
Cases     6414 5960 +454   6067 6025 6043 5832 5668 ... 1161
Positivity rate %     12.9 12.7 +0.2   12.7 12.8 13.2 13.3 13.3 ... 5.4
Deaths     7.7 7.7 0.0   7.7 7.3 6.4 6.0 5.4 ... 6.7
                           
All Vaccinations     13042 13162 -120   13684 14134 14397 15364 16353 ... 18909
1st Dose     3225 2950 +275   2724 2727 2745 2844 2979 ... 1994
2nd Dose     9817 10212 -395   10960 11407 11652 12520 13374 ... 16915
                           
All in hospital     665 633 +32   603 577 553 524 490 ... 464
Non-ICU     605 576 +29   547 523 500 473 441 ... 402
ICU     60 57 +3   56 54 53 51 49 ... 62
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1 minute ago, redjambo said:

The latest trend stats.

 

      7-day per-100,000 cases                
Council Area WHO   Today Yesterday     5 Sep 4 Sep 3 Sep 2 Sep 1 Sep ... 1 Aug
Scotland 4   821 763 +58   777 772 774 747 726 ... 149
                           
North Lanarkshire 4   1284 1219 +65   1260 1278 1292 1261 1214 ... 192
Inverclyde 4   1257 1215 +42   1244 1220 1235 1238 1132 ... 225
West Dunbartonshire 4   1235 1126 +109   1130 1138 1115 1105 1149 ... 221
Renfrewshire 4   1156 1108 +48   1122 1098 1067 1041 1037 ... 135
East Renfrewshire 4   1093 1008 +85   1117 1112 1130 1080 997 ... 122
Glasgow City 4   1062 999 +63   1035 1030 1007 989 954 ... 169
East Dunbartonshire 4   1023 984 +39   1071 1131 1196 1150 1171 ... 131
Clackmannanshire 4   1020 901 +119   815 860 788 704 706 ... 174
South Lanarkshire 4   1015 947 +68   992 1009 1035 1013 964 ... 208
Midlothian 4   872 794 +78   787 808 831 754 681 ... 160
Falkirk 4   844 749 +95   752 741 733 690 653 ... 131
North Ayrshire 4   833 775 +58   801 784 787 772 724 ... 165
Argyll & Bute 4   824 770 +54   760 768 766 712 756 ... 107
Dundee City 4   824 751 +73   764 746 735 697 672 ... 155
West Lothian 4   773 729 +44   722 704 709 668 690 ... 187
Fife 4   770 707 +63   667 642 635 597 563 ... 154
Edinburgh City 4   753 691 +62   706 708 758 722 710 ... 140
South Ayrshire 4   706 646 +60   719 713 701 658 629 ... 143
East Ayrshire 4   698 655 +43   711 657 645 627 609 ... 122
Stirling 4   689 619 +70   608 641 628 628 596 ... 163
East Lothian 4   678 620 +58   641 687 689 604 602 ... 157
Highland 4   619 567 +52   559 549 546 531 517 ... 105
Dumfries & Galloway 4   584 585 -1   610 585 615 620 635 ... 140
Angus 4   577 508 +69   509 479 469 430 401 ... 113
Aberdeenshire 4   559 497 +62   471 456 442 424 411 ... 93
Aberdeen City 4   525 465 +60   450 421 411 414 392 ... 141
Scottish Borders 4   471 445 +26   448 436 442 430 445 ... 107
Perth & Kinross 4   363 321 +42   325 310 306 297 313 ... 95
Shetland Islands 4   302 306 -4   345 284 284 262 227 ... 74
Moray 4   225 203 +22   209 200 184 183 194 ... 96
Na h-Eileanan Siar 4   185 185 0   174 177 170 170 192 ... 208
Orkney Islands 3   80 67 +13   71 71 67 67 54 ... 9
                           
                           
7-day averages     Today Yesterday     5 Sep 4 Sep 3 Sep 2 Sep 1 Sep ... 1 Aug
Tests     53142 49869 +3273   50941 49858 48710 46368 45041 ... 23705
Cases     6414 5960 +454   6067 6025 6043 5832 5668 ... 1161
Positivity rate %     12.9 12.7 +0.2   12.7 12.8 13.2 13.3 13.3 ... 5.4
Deaths     7.7 7.7 0.0   7.7 7.3 6.4 6.0 5.4 ... 6.7
                           
All Vaccinations     13042 13162 -120   13684 14134 14397 15364 16353 ... 18909
1st Dose     3225 2950 +275   2724 2727 2745 2844 2979 ... 1994
2nd Dose     9817 10212 -395   10960 11407 11652 12520 13374 ... 16915
                           
All in hospital     665 633 +32   603 577 553 524 490 ... 464
Non-ICU     605 576 +29   547 523 500 473 441 ... 402
ICU     60 57 +3   56 54 53 51 49 ... 62

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9 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Cases a bit up on the last few days.  Rate the same as yesterday.  Just need to see the next few days I suppose.

 

The cases are fairly cyclical during the week. Monday's figures are usually a good bit lower due to it essentially being the reporting of the Sunday stats.

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11 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

That is a serious jump in hospitalisations. :( 

 

Rapidly heading towards 1000

Thought they vaccinations were working ? 

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11 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

The cases are fairly cyclical during the week. Monday's figures are usually a good bit lower due to it essentially being the reporting of the Sunday stats.

 

Yeah.  It jumped on Tuesday last week.  We'll see tomorrow and Wedn. 

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21 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

That is a serious jump in hospitalisations. :( 

 

Rapidly heading towards 1000

Not good.

Hospitals are already creaking.

Serious if this goes on upwards.

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17 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest trend stats.

 

      7-day per-100,000 cases                
Council Area WHO   Today Yesterday     5 Sep 4 Sep 3 Sep 2 Sep 1 Sep ... 1 Aug
Scotland 4   821 763 +58   777 772 774 747 726 ... 149
                           
North Lanarkshire 4   1284 1219 +65   1260 1278 1292 1261 1214 ... 192
Inverclyde 4   1257 1215 +42   1244 1220 1235 1238 1132 ... 225
West Dunbartonshire 4   1235 1126 +109   1130 1138 1115 1105 1149 ... 221
Renfrewshire 4   1156 1108 +48   1122 1098 1067 1041 1037 ... 135
East Renfrewshire 4   1093 1008 +85   1117 1112 1130 1080 997 ... 122
Glasgow City 4   1062 999 +63   1035 1030 1007 989 954 ... 169
East Dunbartonshire 4   1023 984 +39   1071 1131 1196 1150 1171 ... 131
Clackmannanshire 4   1020 901 +119   815 860 788 704 706 ... 174
South Lanarkshire 4   1015 947 +68   992 1009 1035 1013 964 ... 208
Midlothian 4   872 794 +78   787 808 831 754 681 ... 160
Falkirk 4   844 749 +95   752 741 733 690 653 ... 131
North Ayrshire 4   833 775 +58   801 784 787 772 724 ... 165
Argyll & Bute 4   824 770 +54   760 768 766 712 756 ... 107
Dundee City 4   824 751 +73   764 746 735 697 672 ... 155
West Lothian 4   773 729 +44   722 704 709 668 690 ... 187
Fife 4   770 707 +63   667 642 635 597 563 ... 154
Edinburgh City 4   753 691 +62   706 708 758 722 710 ... 140
South Ayrshire 4   706 646 +60   719 713 701 658 629 ... 143
East Ayrshire 4   698 655 +43   711 657 645 627 609 ... 122
Stirling 4   689 619 +70   608 641 628 628 596 ... 163
East Lothian 4   678 620 +58   641 687 689 604 602 ... 157
Highland 4   619 567 +52   559 549 546 531 517 ... 105
Dumfries & Galloway 4   584 585 -1   610 585 615 620 635 ... 140
Angus 4   577 508 +69   509 479 469 430 401 ... 113
Aberdeenshire 4   559 497 +62   471 456 442 424 411 ... 93
Aberdeen City 4   525 465 +60   450 421 411 414 392 ... 141
Scottish Borders 4   471 445 +26   448 436 442 430 445 ... 107
Perth & Kinross 4   363 321 +42   325 310 306 297 313 ... 95
Shetland Islands 4   302 306 -4   345 284 284 262 227 ... 74
Moray 4   225 203 +22   209 200 184 183 194 ... 96
Na h-Eileanan Siar 4   185 185 0   174 177 170 170 192 ... 208
Orkney Islands 3   80 67 +13   71 71 67 67 54 ... 9
                           
                           
7-day averages     Today Yesterday     5 Sep 4 Sep 3 Sep 2 Sep 1 Sep ... 1 Aug
Tests     53142 49869 +3273   50941 49858 48710 46368 45041 ... 23705
Cases     6414 5960 +454   6067 6025 6043 5832 5668 ... 1161
Positivity rate %     12.9 12.7 +0.2   12.7 12.8 13.2 13.3 13.3 ... 5.4
Deaths     7.7 7.7 0.0   7.7 7.3 6.4 6.0 5.4 ... 6.7
                           
All Vaccinations     13042 13162 -120   13684 14134 14397 15364 16353 ... 18909
1st Dose     3225 2950 +275   2724 2727 2745 2844 2979 ... 1994
2nd Dose     9817 10212 -395   10960 11407 11652 12520 13374 ... 16915
                           
All in hospital     665 633 +32   603 577 553 524 490 ... 464
Non-ICU     605 576 +29   547 523 500 473 441 ... 402
ICU     60 57 +3   56 54 53 51 49 ... 62

Rural places like argyl & bute and highlands have the same amount of cases as Dundee etc.  

That wasn't the case a few months ago.  

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Question re hospitalisation figures.  A mate of mine was admitted on Friday with blood clots on lungs but treated and let out on Saturday evening.  They've been struggling since getting Covid about 3 weeks ago.

 

Are those overnight stays included in the figures or is it the number of people who are currently occupying a bed?

 

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26 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Maybe most of those hospital presentations are them non-infectious,  over-sensitive PCR test positive returns...

 

Oh no,  hang on...

Doesn’t matter how people view this epidemic and how we are dealing with it, bottom line is, the consequences of rising numbers will affect everyone, not only people who are concerned by them.

It’s how far they go before the powers that be react.

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17 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said:

Question re hospitalisation figures.  A mate of mine was admitted on Friday with blood clots on lungs but treated and let out on Saturday evening.  They've been struggling since getting Covid about 3 weeks ago.

 

Are those overnight stays included in the figures or is it the number of people who are currently occupying a bed?

 

i assume they would have been included in the figures for friday and saturday but not for sunday onward

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41 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

Rural places like argyl & bute and highlands have the same amount of cases as Dundee etc.  

That wasn't the case a few months ago.  

Tourists taking it with them?

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1 minute ago, FWJ said:

Tourists taking it with them?

A bit of that and I forget that helensburgh and Dunoon have relatively big populations.  With them being close to Glasgow, that might be having an impact as well.  

It would be good to see more of a breakdown of these figures within a region.   I suppose not that easy giving us that type if data. 

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2 minutes ago, FWJ said:

Tourists taking it with them?

 

That's what was suspected to have happened back last December when the Borders and D & G went down to tier 1 whilst the central belt stayed at tier 3, there was a huge influx of people coming down here for the pubs etc.

And two to three weeks later the Borders and D & G seen a huge increase of cases, so much so that within a month or so we were at the top the infection case table.

 

So yes I'd say tourists have probably played a part.

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1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

Thought they vaccinations were working ? 

 

They are. That's why hospitalisations didn't rocket well over 1000 weeks ago and we're not in lockdown.

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Nucky Thompson

Watching the debate from the house of commons, nobody on the Tory benches are wearing masks and the labour benches are al masked up.

Who said this isn't political :lol:

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7 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

They are. That's why hospitalisations didn't rocket well over 1000 weeks ago and we're not in lockdown.

 

And that's what many just don't get, that without the vaccines we'd be completely up shit creek with this Delta variant.

You just need to look at countries with low vaccination rates and see how this Delta variant is running rampant through them.

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37 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

i assume they would have been included in the figures for friday and saturday but not for sunday onward

 

Cheers. First person I've known of to go in to hospital for such a short length of time (Covid related, others have been in for weeks) and wondered if there was a limit such as had to have been in for 48 hours or something to be counted in the figures.

 

 

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