Unknown user Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, mitch41 said: 6ft. 3ins. Tall Male Married 4 children 6 grandchildren Hearts fan all my life first game Hearts v Aberdeen 5-1 in 1958 Season Ticket holder Tollcross P, Clermiston P, Tynecastle S. I’ve known many ex Hearts players over years and it’s great listening to them talking about Hearts and opponents. I was actually wondering if it's even possible to be so obtuse without it being deliberate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, mitch41 said: Clarification was never going to work for you. You have proved that many times over but hey I’m only trying to educate you regarding what football management is all about. You trying to educate me is like a dog trying to teach Manuel Neuer how to catch a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, Ray Gin said: You trying to educate me is like a dog trying to teach Manuel Neuer how to catch a ball. Use your mouth ffs Manuel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Given the role of SD is not a coaching role, why are you against AM getting the role? i get the whole rewarding people for failure argument but if he’s the best guy for the job it’s not much of a reason not to offer him it. Your right of course if he is the best candidate he should get the job of SD but in my opinion his involvement with Levein, Daly & Fox and the damage they have done to our team I would empty the lot. Failure should not be rewarded to a place on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mitch41 said: Your right of course if he is the best candidate he should get the job of SD but in my opinion his involvement with Levein, Daly & Fox and the damage they have done to our team I would empty the lot. Failure should not be rewarded to a place on the board. The SD will not be on the board as I understand it. Budge said the manager and SD will be "equally senior" roles. So really as McPhee is manager right now it would be a sideways move. Edited November 21, 2019 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, mitch41 said: Your right of course if he is the best candidate he should get the job of SD but in my opinion his involvement with Levein, Daly & Fox and the damage they have done to our team I would empty the lot. Failure should not be rewarded to a place on the board. Don’t think SD would be a full board member. It’s impossible to gauge who was to blame (other than CL) for our terrible run of form and a new manager will no doubt want his own coaches, so all things being even the three of them will not be involved with the first team. The SD role should go to someone with good business sense and knowledge, good contacts, someone capable of overhauling the scouting network/team and who can communicate well with football managers and board members alike. I thinks Austin’s skill set and capabilities fit the role perfectly and we’d be daft to overlook him. I’d think differently if we were discussing him as manager. Edited November 21, 2019 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Because there’s no evidence he’ll be any good as this job. There’s ample evidence that he was shite at his last one. It’s like we owe this guy a living. He’s becoming the new John Murray. There is evidence he’d be good at this job. There’s also evidence he’s good at being an assistant manager. Far too many people underestimating the power and control Craig Levein had at Hearts. It was his way or no way. You only have to look at the games MacPhee has been in charge of to know Levein called the shots and those around him obeyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communist Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said: What transfers has Austin MacPhee been “integral” in, that have been failures? Because the ones I know of he’s been personally involved with have been players he has links with from international duty, so Michael Smith, Connor Washington, Meshino. There’s a couple to name a few. So tell me what he has done wrong personally to stop him getting the gig? Because he’s still relied on by the NI team, and their doing alright? Austin MacPhee would walk into another team with other offers. He’s an asset to the club, maybe not on the management front as I said, but in what he can bring and his connections to football outside of hearts. Apart from Michael Smith I've yet to see enough from meshino or Washington to call them proven success yet. So that's one from your couple or few. What has he done wrong? Take a look at our previous league standings over the last 2 years and that's evidence enough for me. He's been number 2 of a failing system, under 2 managers. I'd just prefer he left so we could start a fresh. I'm sorry my opinion seems to upset you so much. Has your mate got any more questions for me? Asking for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 57 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Posted earlier in the week I think AM already has the SD role. There’s been lots of leaks/rumours about the new manager but practically nothing about SD. Austin announced at the same time as the new manager is my guess. Next week to avoid messing with Austin leading team on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, Mikey1874 said: Next week to avoid messing with Austin leading team on Saturday. Would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communist Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 7 hours ago, JamboAl1965 said: maybe the guy in charge didn’t listen or maybe he was incorrectly placed according to his skill set. Could be all number of reasons. Shouldn’t automatically make him a poor choice For this role. Or maybe the guy in charge did listen? How do you know? I'm basing my opinion on the awful signings, awful football and awful set pieces over the past 2 seasons. If you want to believe that Austin has played a small or minimal role throughout all of that, that's fine. But I disagree and would rather we cleared out all the 1st team coaches and had a clean break with a new team. Remember him claiming Malaury Martin was a dead ball specialist, and someone who could open up defences over here with his passing game. Tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Some on here would say that if we signed Messi, he’s to old, doesn’t understand Scottish football and he’s not a Hearts man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 59 minutes ago, Smithee said: Use your mouth ffs Manuel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Stavropol said: Are the summer dates confirmed for this? Keen to find out more https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/more/club/hearts-invitational-tournament/upcoming-tournaments thats the latest dates though not confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/more/club/hearts-invitational-tournament/upcoming-tournaments thats the latest dates though not confirmed. I've got the clubs wrong, I could have sworn the 3 I mentioned were involved. Still, Arsenal, Juve, Liverpool and Borussia Dortmund are ok I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) To me MacPhee should just scout the opposition. Sporting director should be a role for someone who has played at the highest level. MacPhee was responsible for us signing Malaury Martin a huge mistake. Edited November 21, 2019 by Diadora Van Basten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said: Or he didn't want it. Michael O’Neil appointed his original assistant manager with NI as his new assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjambo Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hearts sporting director hunt latest as Austin MacPhee is left in limbo The caretaker boss is a candidate to be the new sporting director at Tynecastle. SHARE By Ross Pilcher 18:17, 21 NOV 2019 SPORT (Image: Getty Images) Get the biggest Sport stories by email Subscribe We will use your email address only for sending you newsletters. Please see ourPrivacy Noticefor details of your data protection rights Caretaker manager Austin MacPhee faces an anxious wait to see if he has won the race to become Hearts sporting director. Craig Levein's former assistant doesn't look set to continue in the dugout, but is in the running to land the top job at Tynecastle. ADVERTISING inRead invented by Teads But reports that claimed MacPhee has been told he will land the role are premature. Record Sport understands Ann Budge has yet to begin interviewing for the sporting director job, a role which has been newly created after Levein left his role as director of football following his removal as manager. (Image: SNS Group) Interviews for the position are likely to start next week as the hunt to find the club’s next head coach takes precedence. A raft of candidates are in contention to become manager including Daniel Stendel. But as the German is still under contract at Barnsley despite being sacked, there are financial complications with appointing the 45-year-old. Motherwell boss Stephen Robinson emerged as the early frontrunner but it’s believed an approach has still not been made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, jimmyjambo said: Hearts sporting director hunt latest as Austin MacPhee is left in limbo The caretaker boss is a candidate to be the new sporting director at Tynecastle. SHARE By Ross Pilcher 18:17, 21 NOV 2019 SPORT (Image: Getty Images) Get the biggest Sport stories by email Subscribe We will use your email address only for sending you newsletters. Please see ourPrivacy Noticefor details of your data protection rights Caretaker manager Austin MacPhee faces an anxious wait to see if he has won the race to become Hearts sporting director. Craig Levein's former assistant doesn't look set to continue in the dugout, but is in the running to land the top job at Tynecastle. ADVERTISING inRead invented by Teads But reports that claimed MacPhee has been told he will land the role are premature. Record Sport understands Ann Budge has yet to begin interviewing for the sporting director job, a role which has been newly created after Levein left his role as director of football following his removal as manager. (Image: SNS Group) Interviews for the position are likely to start next week as the hunt to find the club’s next head coach takes precedence. A raft of candidates are in contention to become manager including Daniel Stendel. But as the German is still under contract at Barnsley despite being sacked, there are financial complications with appointing the 45-year-old. Motherwell boss Stephen Robinson emerged as the early frontrunner but it’s believed an approach has still not been made. I still stand by what I was told, he will be our Sporting Director. I reckon (my own opinion) that they don’t want it announced while still caretaker and no new manager yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: MacPhee was responsible for us signing Malaury Martin a huge mistake. Did Allan Preston tell you that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Did Allan Preston tell you that ? Are you saying it’s not true? Happy to Google for MacPhee’s comments when we signed Martin if you need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Are you saying it’s not true? Happy to Google for MacPhee’s comments when we signed Martin if you need them. And how do you know he wasn’t simply repeating what Levein and Martins agent told him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, mitch41 said: Clarification was never going to work for you. You have proved that many times over but hey I’m only trying to educate you regarding what football management is all about. Please share your expertise and qualifications with regard to football management! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 58 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: To me MacPhee should just scout the opposition. Sporting director should be a role for someone who has played at the highest level. MacPhee was responsible for us signing Malaury Martin a huge mistake. Nope, Cathro claimed that one. Before it went wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Are you saying it’s not true? Happy to Google for MacPhee’s comments when we signed Martin if you need them. Please do. I clearly recall Levein saying that Martin was a player that Cathro wanted but he wasn’t his type of player. Edited November 21, 2019 by DH1986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Are you saying it’s not true? Happy to Google for MacPhee’s comments when we signed Martin if you need them. Go on then, I cant find them myself, only quotes from Kevin Thomson of all people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, DH1986 said: Please do. I clearly recall Levein saying that Martin was a player that Cathro wanted but he wasn’t his type of player. Martin was a dreadful signing for us but anyone suggesting he couldn't play is talking shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I'm stunned that no one wanted to claim responsibility for Malaury Martin. Stunned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, johnthomas said: Martin was a dreadful signing for us but anyone suggesting he couldn't play is talking shit in what way was he a good player? He’s played two games since he left us and couldn’t even make a fist of it in the Scottish Championship. Edited November 21, 2019 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, johnthomas said: Martin was a dreadful signing for us but anyone suggesting he couldn't play is talking shit He couldn't play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, fabienleclerq said: He couldn't play. Quite. Next the claim will be Mo Berthe could play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, johnthomas said: Martin was a dreadful signing for us but anyone suggesting he couldn't play is talking shit Based on what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 MacPhee as SD is an absolute no-brainer for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS' Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 It's nothing personal against the bloke, but I just think AM needs moved on along with Levein, let a new guy come in for a complete fresh start. The current set up beyond even Levein just hasn't worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, Holyrood_Hearts said: Based on what? Was a bit like people saying Cathro was a decent coach and he turned up and it was like, WTF ! This guy couldn’t run a bath ! Martin was bit like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Ray Gin said: You trying to educate me is like a dog trying to teach Manuel Neuer how to catch a ball. More like fetch a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, Boab said: Was a bit like people saying Cathro was a decent coach and he turned up and it was like, WTF ! This guy couldn’t run a bath ! Martin was bit like that. Cathro is a decent coach, he's first team coach at Wolves, currently 8th in the EPL. Manager, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, communist said: Apart from Michael Smith I've yet to see enough from meshino or Washington to call them proven success yet. So that's one from your couple or few. What has he done wrong? Take a look at our previous league standings over the last 2 years and that's evidence enough for me. He's been number 2 of a failing system, under 2 managers. I'd just prefer he left so we could start a fresh. I'm sorry my opinion seems to upset you so much. Has your mate got any more questions for me? Asking for me. Not upset at all, just confused how an assistant manager can be held accountable for the decisions our managers made. He’s thought highly enough to still be involved in Northern Ireland’s set up so clearly has a lot to give and has a lot of skills built up. plot twist: I don’t have any mates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Please share your expertise and qualifications with regard to football management! Qualifications. It's man management and knowing what you want from the team and players that gets results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, mitch41 said: Qualifications. It's man management and knowing what you want from the team and players that gets results. Whoosh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Its valid for people to hold the view that there should be a complete clean out and no "Hearts" people coming in. They shouldn't be insulted for holding that opinion. I held it myself for a while. I will however be happy if McPhee is awarded the SD role. I don't regard him as a Hearts man like people like Robbo and Mackay clearly are. With him all the best if he gets this role. I'm sure he'll do it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Does he have experience at this level of negotiating with agents and players. Presume its part of the role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Whoosh! Yes I thought that would go right over your head. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Sun now saying he hasn't given up hope of becoming manager! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Smithee said: Cathro is a decent coach, he's first team coach at Wolves, currently 8th in the EPL. Manager, not so much. He also thought a draw with Raith in the big cup was ok, enough said on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Smithee said: Cathro is a decent coach, he's first team coach at Wolves, currently 8th in the EPL. Manager, not so much. Parlance a bit out. Apologies. I meant manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communist Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said: Not upset at all, just confused how an assistant manager can be held accountable for the decisions our managers made. He’s thought highly enough to still be involved in Northern Ireland’s set up so clearly has a lot to give and has a lot of skills built up. plot twist: I don’t have any mates I understand NI have done very well of late. Austin should be rightfully proud of his involvement there. I wish he'd brought the similar success here. Unfortunately he's been number 2 at one of the most turgid times with some horrific football for far too long. He has to be at least partially responsible? Or was he purely just hanging nets, filling water bottles and handing out bibs? I don't think so. It seemed that levein trusted him, and I'd expect he would have had some bearing on decisions. I don't hate the guy, the St mirren game was great, and I'd wish him every success if he does become sporting director, I even quite like his hair. But if I had a preference like I said before, I'd hope the entire first team coaching staff would be shown the door, and not promoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Smithee said: Cathro is a decent coach, he's first team coach at Wolves, currently 8th in the EPL. Manager, not so much. I think he’s more of an analyst than a coach, how to set up and play against certain teams formation and tactics. He seems to struggle when it comes to the man management side of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, communist said: I understand NI have done very well of late. Austin should be rightfully proud of his involvement there. I wish he'd brought the similar success here. Unfortunately he's been number 2 at one of the most turgid times with some horrific football for far too long. He has to be at least partially responsible? Or was he purely just hanging nets, filling water bottles and handing out bibs? I don't think so. It seemed that levein trusted him, and I'd expect he would have had some bearing on decisions. I don't hate the guy, the St mirren game was great, and I'd wish him every success if he does become sporting director, I even quite like his hair. But if I had a preference like I said before, I'd hope the entire first team coaching staff would be shown the door, and not promoted. I agree, a clear out would be best. If he’s getting credit for NI doing well then he should also get criticism for our failures, they can’t have it both ways. You like his hair 😱🙈😜???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Look, none of us is in a position to make a more informed choice, so let's just get behind whoever the new SD and Manager turn out to be, and stop moaning like the bunch of grumpy old men and women we are..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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