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Our problems started when Levein didn't go after the Cup final. A new manager with the summer transfer window and preseason to get their ideas across and we'd have been fine.

 

Taking far too long to get Levein out and far too long to get Stendel in was what cost us, although arguably we might have got out of it had the season not finished early. My gut feeling after the St Mirren game was that we were down.

 

The management team were still getting to know the players and the squad didn't get time to gel given all the new signings, never mind try to play a completely different way. I loved the idea of Stendel - and he seems a really decent man - but the high defensive line was crazy given our players and the fact we were fighting relegation.

 

I don't get the impression the players bought into what he was doing and like it or not I think language must have been a barrier.

 

All the signing chats seemed cringey to me. Maybe it was all just done for the cameras but they seemed really awkward. Two hugs and flowers though!

 

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11 minutes ago, gnasher75 said:

Our problems started when Levein didn't go after the Cup final. A new manager with the summer transfer window and preseason to get their ideas across and we'd have been fine.

 

Sorry mate but our problems started when Cathro was appointed and the damage done then has seen us on a continual downwards trajectory since. 

But yep, in hindsight, Levein should have gone after the cup final. Even that may have been too late. He should have just stood in for that one season and went back up stairs.

 

Perhaps it has worked out for the better now. No DoF, Budge has relinquished control of day to day operations to Mr McKinley and Robbie is back as manager. 

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On 09/11/2020 at 21:58, been here before said:

"Dinnae want XL at the front"

 

Boy kens his stuff.

He’s always quite grumpy when I see him in the shop

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14 minutes ago, gnasher75 said:

Taking far too long to get Levein out and far too long to get Stendel in was what cost us

 

Hibs got Ross in within days of sacking their manager, Ann sacked Levein and... went on holiday.

I don't think the plan was to replace Levein until it became too hard to ignore that MacPhee was as useless as his mentor.

The club was circling the plughole, and there was no sense of urgency from the boardroom to the changing room.

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On 09/11/2020 at 22:39, SectionFJambo said:

Peter in the club shop seems more qualified than the coaching team 😇

What about when he asked one of the hearts shop staff what the score would be or something and she was like “who are we playing?”

they should really know that 

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Found tonight’s episode quite emotional. The Hamilton and Motherwell games boil my piss and always will. I loved Stendell but he was in the right place at the wrong time and was totally the wrong appointment given we had to wait over a month to get him then a further month to get him his assistants.  We had to get someone familiar to the game here given the desperate situation. The goalkeeper was an absolute horror that was barely Sunday league level yet nobody saw it. Eventually Stendell did. Levein signed him on a whim. Man Utd ? Must be good . Aye like that full back we got on loan from Man City a few seasons back. Like all the others he sanctioned like the Greek pair under Cathro etc etc.

tragic that we ended up with the majority of complete trash the last 3 years or so.

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2 hours ago, 18Jambo_dave74 said:

 

This episode has also reminded me how much I can’t stand Brian McLaughlin.


Really can’t stand the fat prick, probably more so because he lobs his sideburns off two inches above his ear

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Yeah, you get to see more of the players in this second episode.   Hear more from stendel which is a delight for me.   More from the staff.  Less from the fans. 

 

I was smiling more from hearing stendel talk about the training.  Just watching him interact with people and hearing him talk about his golden snitch was endearing.   "give us the exact time jorg!", classic. 

 

I wasn't alarmed at watching stendel interact with budge.   The conversation about moving berra on was serious.   Considering he was the club captain.  I was surprised more learning Washington was to be moved on, but couldn't get him a club offering regular gametime.   

 

Yeah, some caution you might get upset seeing/hearing players you didn't agree with.   Levein gets another cameo. 

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2 hours ago, Famous 1874 said:

I would have though that majority of fans knew most of what has been said on the documentary. 

 

2 hours ago, graygo said:

Maybe it wasn't filmed solely for Hearts fans.

 

In the same way that ‘Inside Central Station’ wasn’t made just for Scotrail staff or rail enthusiasts...this was never originally intended to be a football (on the park) focussed documentary. It was about the back office, security, hospitality, etc. and the transfer to FOH. A general insight into a part of football many people know nothing or little about. Of course the fact that there was so much football turmoil and then Covid the focus naturally changed. Add to that most of the staff/departments the crew were supposed to follow ended up on furlough for a large chunk of time.

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A couple of points from the show were Brian Maclaughlans obvious contempt for Stendel in the sneering questions he asked. At one point Stendel just shrugged his shoulders at the stupidity of his question so off trotted Maclaughlan to do a piece to camera about how much trouble we were in like only he could see it.

I also wonder if we are that much worse off in the championship as with no matchday income in either league the advantage was staying in furlough longer and only downside that I can see is less prize money.

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1 hour ago, jimbojambo said:

A couple of points from the show were Brian Maclaughlans obvious contempt for Stendel in the sneering questions he asked. At one point Stendel just shrugged his shoulders at the stupidity of his question so off trotted Maclaughlan to do a piece to camera about how much trouble we were in like only he could see it.

I also wonder if we are that much worse off in the championship as with no matchday income in either league the advantage was staying in furlough longer and only downside that I can see is less prize money.

 

 

Is there a particular reason why Mclaughlin features so much in our documentary? I assume it is just the 'BBC' thing but it boils my piss.  It is fly on the wall and an 'inside' thing and that ***** is an outsider. He has been hanging about the club like a bad smell for years.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Ribble said:


Really can’t stand the fat prick, probably more so because he lobs his sideburns off two inches above his ear

 

Noticed that as well 🤣

 

I'm another one who can't stand him!

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McLaughlin is a tihs stirrer clearly shows no respect to Hearts 

I wouldn't let him through the front door next time and make him pay at the turnstiles, he wouldn't talk to any other club especially Celtic and Rangers the way he has done to our staff for years 

Daniel the big bunch of flowers 💐 too much, naw naw naw a packet of biscuits would have been more than enough for a thank you 

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6 hours ago, 1971fozzy said:

Found tonight’s episode quite emotional. The Hamilton and Motherwell games boil my piss and always will. I loved Stendell but he was in the right place at the wrong time and was totally the wrong appointment given we had to wait over a month to get him then a further month to get him his assistants.  We had to get someone familiar to the game here given the desperate situation. The goalkeeper was an absolute horror that was barely Sunday league level yet nobody saw it. Eventually Stendell did. Levein signed him on a whim. Man Utd ? Must be good . Aye like that full back we got on loan from Man City a few seasons back. Like all the others he sanctioned like the Greek pair under Cathro etc etc.

tragic that we ended up with the majority of complete trash the last 3 years or so.

Your post is spot on bud and thinking back to the whole shit show from last season is emotional in itself. It got to the stage that I switched off after 40mins as I was having flashbacks and some of the documentary had me filling in the blanks to things that now made sense. We were so badly run and badly organised from top to bottom. Anne’s statement about ‘this is going to cost us a whole lot of money’ doesn’t even scratch the surface. Through inept appointments across the whole spectrum,  we’ve pissed away millions down the drain.....and the headless chicken stuff for me is the sad part of a great institution like Heart of Midlothian. I sincerely hope Robbie takes us back to where we belong. 
 

It’s almost like Levein woke up one day and hadn’t seen a playbook in his life. He was totally at sea with it all. It was desperate stuff and to think of the wonderful facilities we have , contracts we pay and fans who are diehards that go everywhere, and we toil to beat the Hamilton’s, St Mirrens and Ross County’s of this world. 
 

Was far too depressing to watch at times. Berra having a moan about being told he was free to go after his wedding. Does he honestly think he’s done a great job as captain of our club? We should’ve left Uche at karting extreme as a pit worker instead of giving him a place on the bench.
 

If ever we needed to fly a plane over Tynecastle to get the message across about ‘no fight’ then it could’ve been at nearly every one of our home games from last season 

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Players really didn’t like stendel - their faces at the go carting said it all. Watching last night I couldn’t help think he needed to go for a wash and put decent clothes on. Found him a bit sleezy. Good seeing what everyone does though 

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That was the Brian McLaughlin show last night. Can’t believe BBC showed about 15 seconds worth of both the derby wins at Easter road in the two episodes and completely left out the rangers Scottish cup game

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6 minutes ago, maroon said:

That was the Brian McLaughlin show last night. Can’t believe BBC showed about 15 seconds worth of both the derby wins at Easter road in the two episodes and completely left out the rangers Scottish cup game

Yep. I know we're only playing with three episodes but cmon!

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29 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said:

Your post is spot on bud and thinking back to the whole shit show from last season is emotional in itself. It got to the stage that I switched off after 40mins as I was having flashbacks and some of the documentary had me filling in the blanks to things that now made sense. We were so badly run and badly organised from top to bottom. Anne’s statement about ‘this is going to cost us a whole lot of money’ doesn’t even scratch the surface. Through inept appointments across the whole spectrum,  we’ve pissed away millions down the drain.....and the headless chicken stuff for me is the sad part of a great institution like Heart of Midlothian. I sincerely hope Robbie takes us back to where we belong. 
 

It’s almost like Levein woke up one day and hadn’t seen a playbook in his life. He was totally at sea with it all. It was desperate stuff and to think of the wonderful facilities we have , contracts we pay and fans who are diehards that go everywhere, and we toil to beat the Hamilton’s, St Mirrens and Ross County’s of this world. 
 

Was far too depressing to watch at times. Berra having a moan about being told he was free to go after his wedding. Does he honestly think he’s done a great job as captain of our club? We should’ve left Uche at karting extreme as a pit worker instead of giving him a place on the bench.
 

If ever we needed to fly a plane over Tynecastle to get the message across about ‘no fight’ then it could’ve been at nearly every one of our home games from last season 

Good post.  When you're caught up in it at the time, everything is blurred by emotion - which was predominantly anger.  Looking back on it, the anger is still there at just how poorly things were handled on a number of levels.  But we can only hope that the lessons have been learned.  I'm treating this season as a reboot, for myself as much as anything.  

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37 minutes ago, maroon said:

That was the Brian McLaughlin show last night. Can’t believe BBC showed about 15 seconds worth of both the derby wins at Easter road in the two episodes and completely left out the rangers Scottish cup game

 

It didn't really capture much at all did it?

 

I stand by my remarks about episode 1 that this documentary is pretty amateurish and is just a bunch of content thrown together. Almost as if the folk doing the editing don't know football! Merely a PR stunt for Budge and her pals, and the third episode will cement that.

 

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49 minutes ago, Baxfee said:

Players really didn’t like stendel - their faces at the go carting said it all. Watching last night I couldn’t help think he needed to go for a wash and put decent clothes on. Found him a bit sleezy. Good seeing what everyone does though 

I agree with that, the body language on the team and interaction with the manager did not look great. Robbie has a different mentality, knows the club and the real type of characters required to get us out of this mire. Halliday, Gordon to name a couple.

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20 hours ago, Saughton Jambo said:

Got to agree here. He must’ve seen that JP was culpable on so many occasions and left it far too late to bring Bobby back into the fold. The one at parkhead when he palmed a shot straight back to a Celtic forward to score should’ve illustrated to DS that his confidence was wrecked and he needed dropped. To persist with him and a few co conspirators,  sealed our demotion. 
 

I know he inherited a shit squad but the game plan had to be consolidation with a win at all costs mentality and not try and play gegenpress with back line that was too slow. That method alone cost us valuable points.
 

Our first 11 now would be challenging in the top half of the table but we are still a few short. For an assault on 3rd place, we need a few more in and out the door. I think RN is doing just fine and no point in looking backwards now 


Re Perierra there were some quite reliable posts last year that suggested the loan deal with Man U didn’t exactly force us to play him but that we had to cough up more money if we didn’t.

 

Clearly with hindsight we should have coughed up the money but I do wonder if it wasn’t just down to Stendel that we persisted with him for so long?

 

I thought last night was good. 1st episode set the scene, last night was better and takes us to lockdown. Now the shitfest of our ejection from the league ends the series next week.

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4 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Is there a particular reason why Mclaughlin features so much in our documentary? I assume it is just the 'BBC' thing but it boils my piss.  It is fly on the wall and an 'inside' thing and that ***** is an outsider. He has been hanging about the club like a bad smell for years.

 

 

He appears to be the journalist that asks most at our press conferences and has for years. 

 

If the production team went to most of the press conferences and spotted this, I can see why, along with local journalist Barry Anderson are interviewed most from press by them.

 

A key part of a journalists job is to 'hang around like a bad smell' anyway.

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1 hour ago, Baxfee said:

Players really didn’t like stendel - their faces at the go carting said it all. Watching last night I couldn’t help think he needed to go for a wash and put decent clothes on. Found him a bit sleezy. Good seeing what everyone does though 

I caught that as well. Just like the Cathro appointment I had never heard of Stendel and whoever was advising AB got it wrong.  We needed a strong English language speaker who could get his message over to the players in no uncertain terms. I don't believe Stendel could do that. In a lot of respects Covid has done us a favour because we got shot of Stendel and it is build onwards and upwards again with Robbie.

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It is also obvious to me that Budge has the main focus on how many females she has employed. They may as well just call the documentary 'The Hearts office Ladies'.

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Just now, i8hibsh said:

It is also obvious to me that Budge has the main focus on how many females she has employed. They may as well just call the documentary 'The Hearts office Ladies'.

Lol; back on track "Fat Brian" is very friendly with BB and JJ so would imagine he will be onside if required in the future.

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1 minute ago, Lfhearts said:

Lol; back on track "Fat Brian" is very friendly with BB and JJ so would imagine he will be onside if required in the future.

 

 

I have spoken to McLaughlin on a few pissed up European tours and asked him if he was a Jambo and he said yes but really doubt it the way he speaks about us. Impartial BBC - give me a break.

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17 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

It is also obvious to me that Budge has the main focus on how many females she has employed. They may as well just call the documentary 'The Hearts office Ladies'.

:lol:

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3 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

:lol:

 

Should be full of manly men, with the smell of woodbine & musk permeating the office. Coupled with a single toilet that looks like the black hole of Calcutta.

 

Simpler times. 

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1 minute ago, Barack said:

Should be full of manly men, with the smell of woodbine & musk permeating the office. Coupled with a single toilet that looks like the black hole of Calcutta.

 

Simpler times. 

 

:laugh2:

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Hey guys, meet your new assistant manager.

 

5-E61-B713-438-A-46-DF-B7-AA-5153640-F8-


Damour looking as enthusiastic as ever, bellend.

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26 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

I have spoken to McLaughlin on a few pissed up European tours and asked him if he was a Jambo and he said yes but really doubt it the way he speaks about us. Impartial BBC - give me a break.

Could say the same about you mate.

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6 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said:

Hey guys, meet your new assistant manager.

 

5-E61-B713-438-A-46-DF-B7-AA-5153640-F8-


Damour looking as enthusiastic as ever, bellend.

 

Prick. That really wound me up. 

 

You know, all it would have taken is for one of the senior players to stand up and shake his hand and encourage everyone else to do the same. Like a football TEAM and not a bunch of overpaid individuals. 

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4 minutes ago, TexasAndy said:

Could say the same about you mate.

 

 

Touchè

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37 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

It is also obvious to me that Budge has the main focus on how many females she has employed. They may as well just call the documentary 'The Hearts office Ladies'.

You really are a misogynist aren’t you i8? Or you just fishing? Of all the things I saw that annoyed me in the doc last night this didn’t even register

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2 minutes ago, Salad Fingers said:

 

Prick. That really wound me up. 

 

You know, all it would have taken is for one of the senior players to stand up and shake his hand and encourage everyone else to do the same. Like a football TEAM and not a bunch of overpaid individuals. 

 

 

His attitude stinks, his ability stinks and he has and will not bring anything of value to our club.

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16 minutes ago, Barack said:

Should be full of manly men, with the smell of woodbine & musk permeating the office. Coupled with a single toilet that looks like the black hole of Calcutta.

 

Simpler times. 

:lol: nudie calendar on the wall. 

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Just now, Jamhammer said:

You really are a misogynist aren’t you i8? Or you just fishing? Of all the things I saw that annoyed me in the doc last night this didn’t even register

 

 

I do not hate, dislike or mistrust women no. However, I am honest enough, mature enough and big enough to have my own opinions. I feel that we have too many women with no or little experience in football running the show in the background at Hearts.  I feel that Budge sees someone with a background in human resources as suitable to do the human resources for a football club and attribute this to our staggering failures in recruitment since she came in. 

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42 minutes ago, Mid Calder Jambo said:

I caught that as well. Just like the Cathro appointment I had never heard of Stendel and whoever was advising AB got it wrong.  We needed a strong English language speaker who could get his message over to the players in no uncertain terms. I don't believe Stendel could do that. In a lot of respects Covid has done us a favour because we got shot of Stendel and it is build onwards and upwards again with Robbie.

I disagree unless the players went a bit xenophobic and switched off instead of listening.  

 

When we as non footballers could understand what he was getting at when watching the videos the club put up, there is something wrong if the players couldn't.

 

Now if the players didn't agree with his tactics or not good enough to play them, that is a different matter.   

 

I don't get Stendel's English being that much worse than say Csaba's and Sergio had to speak very slowly to get his English out.

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23 minutes ago, Barack said:

Should be full of manly men, with the smell of woodbine & musk permeating the office. Coupled with a single toilet that looks like the black hole of Calcutta.

 

Simpler times. 

 

 

I hope the toilet would have a glory hole

 

 

:oohmatron:

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2 hours ago, Baxfee said:

Players really didn’t like stendel - their faces at the go carting said it all. Watching last night I couldn’t help think he needed to go for a wash and put decent clothes on. Found him a bit sleezy. Good seeing what everyone does though 

This is what I saw as well. He looked like he needed a bath. He also looked too "touchy feely" with the office ladies although they weren't complaining I suppose.

It was the players, they seemed to be indifferent towards him.

Also, WTF with the Harry Potter snitch thing? Is he 12?

I'm glad he's away and that might not sit well on this forum but, something about him just didn't sit right with me.

Thought it was a bit "cringy"

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As others have said last nights episode made me a bit more emotional than the first one.

The new arrivals. I’d completely forgotten about Langer. Toby looked decent but got sick. Donis we barely saw. 
The Berra row annoyed me at the time and did last night. Dogs on the street were talking about how he was costing us and he was unprofessional moaning to the press. I get it. He was hurt but should have taken a minute. Whelan had downed tools too before he was emptied and I have to say I thought bringing him in was a great idea, just what we needed but a total letdown.

Had we appointed Daniel after the cup final and given him a close season it could have been a different story but we didn’t and trying to play the way he wants to with the staff he had was, probably the final nail in the coffin.

Would we have escaped? I don’t know but it would have been lovely to have had the chance

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6 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

I do not hate, dislike or mistrust women no. However, I am honest enough, mature enough and big enough to have my own opinions. I feel that we have too many women with no or little experience in football running the show in the background at Hearts.  I feel that Budge sees someone with a background in human resources as suitable to do the human resources for a football club and attribute this to our staggering failures in recruitment since she came in. 

So the offices should be filled with football MEN who aren’t nice?

Gotcha

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10 hours ago, 18Jambo_dave74 said:

I have to say I’m delighted at how relatively dull and watered down this documentary has been so far as I’d been dreading how we would be portrayed. I actually think over the 2 episodes they’ve showed us winning more than losing! 
 

Whilst Stendel did a pretty poor job as manager he comes across very well. Have to feel for him in terms of the shambles he inherited.

 

This episode has also reminded me how much I can’t stand Brian McLaughlin.

 

Harry Stone comes across superbly and clearly has his head screwed on. Hopefully he gets the career with us that he deserves.

 

Look back over the thread before the first one was aired and you will see a sense of dread amongst the support so i think we should be relieved at what has been shown so far.

 

They really could have put together a damning assessment of the club (although i have only seen the first one so far) and quite why any Hearts fan would want us to go through that on the small screen is beyond me.

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