jambopilms Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, OldGorgie said: Or terminally stupid or clinically insane Or in need of attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Op is correct , McPhee , Daly , Fox and the goalkeeping coach all have to go 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroon Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Macphee will 100% be in charge for st mirren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Clean sweep required , I feel sorry for the new manager who inherits this squad , they have a huge task on their hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I have said it before but I have yet to see a shred of evidence that McPhee has contributed anything. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communist Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: I have said it before but I have yet to see a shred of evidence that McPhee has contributed anything. Anyone? He speaks Japanese? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, Stephane Grappelli said: Do you want McPhee to get the job? No, but I don’t necessarily want him fired. Maybe he was just implementing what CL Told him to do. Getting Donald Park in to help him was a smart move. If the new manager wants to keep him I would have no problems with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, Rannoch said: The only thing different today was the Manager’s post match report had a different voice. McPhee is woven into the Levein failure legacy and was schooled well in excuse making. Usually you get a bounce , even when an interim manager takes on the role but it was crystal clear that the bulk of the players couldn’t be arsed by nor motivated with him just like Levein. Coming back from the Counting House in George Square our take home points were: 1/ the Championship winning side would have horsed this Hearts team by 5 goals minimum . That’s Levein’s legacy 2/ the current coaching staff need emptied 3/ Levein has affected Heart of Midlothian psychologically and installed a loser mentality / risk averse/anti football culture that has destroyed player creativity and confidence 4/ new Manager has to ream out the bulk of this spineless squad and kick ass 5/ no ex Hearts player should be Manager. McCann’s wizardry on the wing is a cherished memory and we would hate to see it soiled 6/ expectations now need to be structured: the priority for the new Manager will be avoiding relegation , which Is a very real possibility Excellent post, especially point 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, McCrae said: What players that were available would you have picked? I think our squad is poor, and from those available no one was missing. 1 hour ago, McCrae said: the poster said our bench was poor, it wasn’t. It was stronger than the team on the park. I didn’t say the bench was poor at all. I made the point that our first team should have been strong but it wasn’t because the better players were on the bench. I would have picked Naismith, Walker and Uche to have all started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, McCrae said: So. It the players were fully fit they would be starting. It was the same way we set up under Levein. He's a loser with the same loser mentality as his predecessor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Sir Gio said: Role I would expect Austin to fulfill would be nothing to do with coaching. Anyone expecting a miracle in 2 days is trolling or taking the piss. It won't be Austin McPhee, hiding to nothing today against a quality side The thread is still accurate! People may have had strong suspicions that several coaches needed to go, McPhee amongst them and his selection and tactics did nothing to allay them. I didn't expect any miracles and the performance was as bad as expected. Time to accelerate the new manager appointment and see if he can start to turn things around, so , as the title says it is time for McPhee (and Daly and Fox) to get his (and their) coats. No miracle expected but some improvement to mediocre would not be too miraculous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I think i just read the quote "We were only one minute away from getting to half time" Pse leave this club Austin. You do not belong here. Thats what our squad is hearing, alongside 0-0 improvments at Livi etc. Shocking!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: It was the same way we set up under Levein. He's a loser with the same loser mentality as his predecessor. Actually he is a winner. He won the LC with ST Mirren when they beat us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 hours ago, leginten said: Agreed. Haven’t actually seen anyone claim it, although I have seen people on here this evening pretending that’s the case. We all know we’re in deep shit and it’s going to take a long time to clear up the mess. Of course, none of the above means we shouldn’t have been expecting more today. Far from it. I totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 hours ago, McCrae said: No, but I don’t necessarily want him fired. Maybe he was just implementing what CL Told him to do. Getting Donald Park in to help him was a smart move. If the new manager wants to keep him I would have no problems with that. Nah, get him tae ****. Hopeless. 1 hour ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: It was the same way we set up under Levein. He's a loser with the same loser mentality as his predecessor. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Burn them! Burn them all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: It was the same way we set up under Levein. He's a loser with the same loser mentality as his predecessor. Yesterday was disappointing - couldn’t quite believe how poor we looked. However - if the game plan hadn’t been chucked due to injuries it is probably that we could have got to half time without conceding and had a 2nd half with Uche & Naismith to come on and shake up our forward play. It didn’t work out and the idea is moot but I suspect the plan was to let Rangers run ragged chasing goals before exploiting their frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Mysterion said: Yesterday was disappointing - couldn’t quite believe how poor we looked. However - if the game plan hadn’t been chucked due to injuries it is probably that we could have got to half time without conceding and had a 2nd half with Uche & Naismith to come on and shake up our forward play. It didn’t work out and the idea is moot but I suspect the plan was to let Rangers run ragged chasing goals before exploiting their frustration. We should have lost that about five or six nil yesterday. It was pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 7 hours ago, McCrae said: Actually he is a winner. He won the LC with ST Mirren when they beat us. Hopefully the "winner" gets told to leave, today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 McPhee has to go also. It seems to me that there’s a cultural/attitude change needed and that can only happen when the entire backroom staff leave. From the physio to the fitness they all have to go. Once new manager comes in he needs to empty a whole load of players and save Hickey’s career, because at the moment Hearts are managing his development horrendously. He has to be left out the team to develop properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Eskilsson Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I said on Saturday that if he picked MacLean and White yesterday I’d want him gone as soon as possible. That was a Levein team with the exception of Wighton for Uche and I feel heart sorry for Aaron Hickey getting messed around again. I’m also fed up seeing Berra’s partners get injured and I think having to do 2 jobs is part of the problem. For me McPhee is not a candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 44 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: Hopefully the "winner" gets told to leave, today. Then who will put the team on the park on Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four faces Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Budge has already said we are looking for an experienced manager and not anyone currently at the club.Providing we are not being deceived again,then Mcphee, hopefully, will leave the club with the rest of the frauds who have been part of this shambles over the last three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Independence Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 14 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: If it was left to uber fans like you, we’d get relegated without a whimper and you wouldn’t even care. Jeez this place gets worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Not read the whole thread but anyone who thinks a "strike-force" of Maclean & Wighton would be a good idea has no place being involved in football in any capacity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 What do you want Budge to do? Sack the whole coaching staff mid season and leave the team to train itself, or bring in new coaches before we have a manager that he might not want? McPhee won’t be getting the job and probably won’t be kept as an assistant either if the new manager doesn’t want him, same for the other clowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 11 hours ago, OldGorgie said: Or terminally stupid or clinically insane indont expect miracles, I also don’t expect him to start McLean and Wighton up front.. crazy stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 75 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: Not read the whole thread but anyone who thinks a "strike-force" of Maclean & Wighton would be a good idea has no place being involved in football in any capacity Good point. They are both rank rotten and not good enough for Hearts. I would also throw in a central midfield pairing of Bozanic and Clare. Both woeful and nowhere near good enough. Bin the 4 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I felt more comfortable with the interim managers that Vladimir used to find than I do with our current one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 With any luck when Ann meets Austin this morning she’s holding an envelope with his P45 inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Dropping Uche was him trying to prove a point, but it's the wrong game to do so. If he doesn't fancy Uche drop him for St Mirren, not a game against a team he ran ragged a few weeks ago. He hung Wighton out to dry as well, he may well not be good enough but he's not played for months, to bring him in for our main striker in a game we were going to find it hard to penetrate them wasn't really fair, players who've been injured need eased in. Also, as soon as I looked at the bench I asked where Dikamona was. He was the natural defender to have in there, he can play centre half obviously, but if the right back got injured he could come in and Smith could go right. If the left back got injured he could come in and Hickey could go across. Instead we had Brandon who can play one position and Keena who was clearly never coming on when we had Uche, Walker and Naismith as options. And what happened was our centre half got injured and we ended up with a 17 year old full back at centre half and Clare at right back it was a mess. For me MacPhee was trying too hard to show he wasn't Levein's man and got it massively wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 11 hours ago, deejtee said: The thread is still accurate! People may have had strong suspicions that several coaches needed to go, McPhee amongst them and his selection and tactics did nothing to allay them. I didn't expect any miracles and the performance was as bad as expected. Time to accelerate the new manager appointment and see if he can start to turn things around, so , as the title says it is time for McPhee (and Daly and Fox) to get his (and their) coats. No miracle expected but some improvement to mediocre would not be too miraculous? In 2 days, yes. I don't think there is any realisation how deep these issues are. Michael Smith accurate in his comments. However, Austin McPhee is not a coach, he is an analyst and probably got a decent business brain. Pep would not have done any better yesterday let alone a novice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 The only crumb of comfort from yesterdays result is that it rules out McPhee for the job. He stated he’s has 600 games as an assistant......and that shit show yesterday was all he could come up with. What a lack of imagination it showed. He can go today for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam1953 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 12 hours ago, communist said: He speaks Japanese? Good he can tell Ryo to get his coat as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 McPhee should have been shown the door the day he told us that Malaury Martin was the kind of player who would turn draws into wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Liam1953 said: Good he can tell Ryo to get his coat as well. Dearie me some of the folk on here are utterly demented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, BobbyJenkins said: Dearie me some of the folk on here are utterly demented. I think people are just pissed off and frustrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: I think people are just pissed off and frustrated. I get that, as I am I, but a bit of thought wouldn't go amiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 13 hours ago, Rannoch said: The only thing different today was the Manager’s post match report had a different voice. McPhee is woven into the Levein failure legacy and was schooled well in excuse making. Usually you get a bounce , even when an interim manager takes on the role but it was crystal clear that the bulk of the players couldn’t be arsed by nor motivated with him just like Levein. Coming back from the Counting House in George Square our take home points were: 1/ the Championship winning side would have horsed this Hearts team by 5 goals minimum . That’s Levein’s legacy 2/ the current coaching staff need emptied 3/ Levein has affected Heart of Midlothian psychologically and installed a loser mentality / risk averse/anti football culture that has destroyed player creativity and confidence 4/ new Manager has to ream out the bulk of this spineless squad and kick ass 5/ no ex Hearts player should be Manager. McCann’s wizardry on the wing is a cherished memory and we would hate to see it soiled 6/ expectations now need to be structured: the priority for the new Manager will be avoiding relegation , which Is a very real possibility We look like a team that’s going to go down. It’s worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, BobbyJenkins said: I get that, as I am I, but a bit of thought wouldn't go amiss. You won't be saying that when Lawson shows up with a 10000-word essay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: You won't be saying that when Lawson shows up with a 10000-word essay Haha too true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 31 minutes ago, Stephane Grappelli said: McPhee should have been shown the door the day he told us that Malaury Martin was the kind of player who would turn draws into wins. Exactly mate. We basically game a job to a guy because he was successful playing Championship Manager on his laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Class of 75 said: Good point. They are both rank rotten and not good enough for Hearts. I would also throw in a central midfield pairing of Bozanic and Clare. Both woeful and nowhere near good enough. Bin the 4 of them. Totally agree ,and a few others too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Jersey_HMFC Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 If we had gone for it yesterday and got horsed 6-0 I would have had more respect for McPhee. The team selection showed no ambition and We constantly turned backwards and passed it all the way back to the keeper when we were in half decent positions. Just demonstrates the losers mentality we have just now. Even 0-3 down we didn’t just go all out, there was one throw in in line with the edge of their box, where we couldn’t decide Who was taking it and 3 players handled it before we eventually took it, shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 We are in a complete mess on the park atm, & it’s a travesty that it’s gotten so bad. All those responsible need to go including players who are clearly not good enough. sadly I don’t think this will be a quick fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 55 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: Exactly mate. We basically game a job to a guy because he was successful playing Championship Manager on his laptop. Spot on sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Can't see a problem with the OP. McPhee had a chance to show a different approach, maybe play the game a bit further forward with more press. No, instead we had a static midfield and a headless attack. The usual approach of play it cagey and hope to still be in game with 30 mins left. Sorry but McPhee did nothing to differ his tactics from that of Levein. Thanks but no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mercer Takeover Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Anyone who thinks Wighton is a football player, should not be in charge at Hearts. Problems are deeper than that of course but to me it just shows why McPhee is tarnished with the same brush as Levein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Eskilsson Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I’d say that in Wighton, MacLean, Bozanic, White and Clare we started with 5 players who have never played a good 90 minutes for Hearts. Injuries limited our options but Uche should have started. I’d have given Walker and Naismith 45 mins each to add some creativity. I’d Have put Hickey at left back and played Brandon who at least has the legs for the big pitch. Wouldn’t have been enough yesterday but Saturday really is a must win and we need more. McPhee isn’t the man for the job he’s not really a change as he’s part of Levein’s Mgmt team. I think they all need to go. I’d rather Naismith, Kirk and Park took temporary charge while we find the new manager... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 40 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said: Anyone who thinks Wighton is a football player, should not be in charge at Hearts. Problems are deeper than that of course but to me it just shows why McPhee is tarnished with the same brush as Levein. There was no doubt about that anyway. I’m not even sure I’d say tarred with the same brush. Just useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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