Vlad Magic Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, martoon said: I have to ask, Vlad, but if you don't see top 4 or a Cup win happening if injuries and form improve, why the faith in Levein? After all, the injury problems we have seem to be the main, often only, excuse his defenders put forward. If our poor start is the reason put forward that, imo, is down to Levein's incompetence as much, if not more, than injuries. If we go down the road of replacing Levein now the incumbent is in a hiding to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: If we go down the road of replacing Levein now the incumbent is in a hiding to nothing. In what respect? A change of training methods, different approach to games, a new voice to listen to, all these things can transform a team. Things aren’t working and if they don’t improve we’ll be forced into change at that stage the players will be so devoid of confidence it could really spell disaster. I can’t believe Levein now when he tells us he can fix it. So far there’s no evidence to back that up and I’m not even sure he believes it. He’s absolutely banking on injured players turning this round but again he’s had these players this season and last and it’s steadily getting worse. Edited October 16, 2019 by Rudy T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, Rudy T said: In what respect? A change of training methods, different approach to games, a new voice to listen to, all these things can transform a team. Things aren’t working and if they don’t improve we’ll be forced into change at that stage the players will be so devoid of confidence it could really spell disaster. I can’t believe Levein now when he tells us he can fix it. So far there’s no evidence to back that up and I’m not even sure he believes it. He’s absolutely banking on injured players turning this round but again he’s had these players this season and last and it’s steadily getting worse. "but again he’s had these players this season and last and it’s steadily getting worse." And they were injured this season and last. It's not getting worse, but it's not getting better - until we get some of our 1st choice players playing. It's really quite simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Spoleto said: "but again he’s had these players this season and last and it’s steadily getting worse." And they were injured this season and last. It's not getting worse, but it's not getting better - until we get some of our 1st choice players playing. It's really quite simple. Aye sure whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Spoleto said: "but again he’s had these players this season and last and it’s steadily getting worse." And they were injured this season and last. It's not getting worse, but it's not getting better - until we get some of our 1st choice players playing. It's really quite simple. What’s really simple is if you look at the teams we have put on the park over the last year they should have been capable of getting far better results than they have.. and putting injuries aside we have wasted huge money on players who seemingly aren’t worth anything like the outlay we have invested in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: What’s really simple is if you look at the teams we have put on the park over the last year they should have been capable of getting far better results than they have.. and putting injuries aside we have wasted huge money on players who seemingly aren’t worth anything like the outlay we have invested in them. We've the 4th largest budget so yes we've obviously been underperforming since Neilson left. However if you're willing to look for silver linings, our better players are on longer contracts. If Levein left today he'd be handing over a decent and pretty stable foundation, albeit with half of the first team injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vlad Magic said: If we go down the road of replacing Levein now the incumbent is in a hiding to nothing. In today's environment I don't see how any new Hearts manager would get enough time to do well unless he's brilliant from the word go and sustains it for at least two seasons. In which case he'll be poached by a bigger club in no time. I'd like to think fans would give someone like Naismith a chance. Really don't think he'd get much time though. It's a worry but the club need to just ignore social media and a lot of the booing at games - now it's justified but under Neilson and when we had all our injuries... ? - and focus on monitoring attendances and merch sales, etc when gauging fan opinion when making decisions. Edited October 16, 2019 by ToqueJambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Vlad Magic said: If we go down the road of replacing Levein now the incumbent is in a hiding to nothing. If the incumbent is appointed by Levein, and is one of his current coaching staff, I agree. Even if he chose a successor from without it would be met with dismay and discontent by many. It's highly unlikely that he'd choose someone that was right for Heart of Midlothian over what was right for Craig Levein. All imo, of course, but you must have noticed that many, indeed, the majority, want Levein removed. It's going to happen anyway. There's no way he's going to survive the departure of Ann Budge. We're treading water until that time comes but it's valuable time and money that is slipping through our fingers. It's frustrating beyond endurance for me that we're going nowhere and that no action is being taken. Every day is a waste and alienates unhappy supporters further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Vlad Magic said: If we go down the road of replacing Levein now the incumbent is in a hiding to nothing. I couldn't disagree more tbh, the club is at such a low ebb on the footballing side the only way is up. Martin O'Neill's theory on whether to take a managerial job was to weigh up where the club was and make a judgement on how much they were under performing. If you apply that maxim to us then it is a very attractive job. As much as he has made a mess of first team matters the evidence does suggest that a decent infrastructure has been put in place by Levein. A new manager can utilise first class training facilities, develop a playing style that is closer to our younger age groups and make more of the players currently at his disposal. It's a great opportunity for the right person. If we take a step back from how irate many of us are just now then the evidence shows that we are actually a reasonably patient support. Levein received support for a much longer time than he would have at other clubs or indeed with the national team. Posters suggesting that the new man would be thrust into some kind of nightmare is scaremongering. However, if you appointed someone in the second half of the season and we were in a similar situation to where we are now then that would be much more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said: In today's environment I don't see how any new Hearts manager would get enough time to do well unless he's brilliant from the word go and sustains it for at least two seasons. In which case he'll be poached by a bigger club in no time. I'd like to think fans would give someone like Naismith a chance. Really don't think he'd get much time though. It's a worry but the club need to just ignore social media and a lot of the booing at games - now it's justified but under Neilson and when we had all our injuries... ? - and focus on monitoring attendances and merch sales, etc when gauging fan opinion when making decisions. What a load of rubbish. ANY manager could walk into the current set up and get more out of the team than CL does. The idea that any appointee is going to be headhunted is delusional. The club needs to grow some balls and ask what it really wants to achieve and go for it. You're simply making excuses for , and justifying, a failed regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: What’s really simple is if you look at the teams we have put on the park over the last year they should have been capable of getting far better results than they have.. and putting injuries aside we have wasted huge money on players who seemingly aren’t worth anything like the outlay we have invested in them. Why do you want to put injuries aside? A lot of the money we've spent is in the treatment room Should we just ignore it and pretend it's not happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, annushorribilis III said: What a load of rubbish. ANY manager could walk into the current set up and get more out of the team than CL does. The idea that any appointee is going to be headhunted is delusional. The club needs to grow some balls and ask what it really wants to achieve and go for it. You're simply making excuses for , and justifying, a failed regime. Do you have someone in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 38 minutes ago, annushorribilis III said: What a load of rubbish. ANY manager could walk into the current set up and get more out of the team than CL does. The idea that any appointee is going to be headhunted is delusional. The club needs to grow some balls and ask what it really wants to achieve and go for it. You're simply making excuses for , and justifying, a failed regime. I’m more basing this on some fans’ expectations of Neilson than Levein. Any manager is a bold statement though. They’d all rather have naismith, souttar, haring, halkett, washington, walker and a properly fit damour and uche than have to rely on the 2nd and 3rd picks I’m sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, JamboAl said: Do you have someone in mind? Plenty of excellent candidates out there. Even some that wouldn't require compensation like Neil Harris. He did a brilliant job for Millwall and might relish the chance to manage us (the opponents in his benefit match). Edited October 17, 2019 by Randy Marsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Jodami said: I couldn't disagree more tbh, the club is at such a low ebb on the footballing side the only way is up. Martin O'Neill's theory on whether to take a managerial job was to weigh up where the club was and make a judgement on how much they were under performing. If you apply that maxim to us then it is a very attractive job. As much as he has made a mess of first team matters the evidence does suggest that a decent infrastructure has been put in place by Levein. A new manager can utilise first class training facilities, develop a playing style that is closer to our younger age groups and make more of the players currently at his disposal. It's a great opportunity for the right person. If we take a step back from how irate many of us are just now then the evidence shows that we are actually a reasonably patient support. Levein received support for a much longer time than he would have at other clubs or indeed with the national team. Posters suggesting that the new man would be thrust into some kind of nightmare is scaremongering. However, if you appointed someone in the second half of the season and we were in a similar situation to where we are now then that would be much more difficult. Good post 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Spoleto said: "but again he’s had these players this season and last and it’s steadily getting worse." And they were injured this season and last. It's not getting worse, but it's not getting better - until we get some of our 1st choice players playing. It's really quite simple. How is it not getting worse? The run of results is the joint worst in our history, and even with the injuries, the players we have throughout the squad should be more than capable of being a top six side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Jodami said: I couldn't disagree more tbh, the club is at such a low ebb on the footballing side the only way is up. Martin O'Neill's theory on whether to take a managerial job was to weigh up where the club was and make a judgement on how much they were under performing. If you apply that maxim to us then it is a very attractive job. As much as he has made a mess of first team matters the evidence does suggest that a decent infrastructure has been put in place by Levein. A new manager can utilise first class training facilities, develop a playing style that is closer to our younger age groups and make more of the players currently at his disposal. It's a great opportunity for the right person. If we take a step back from how irate many of us are just now then the evidence shows that we are actually a reasonably patient support. Levein received support for a much longer time than he would have at other clubs or indeed with the national team. Posters suggesting that the new man would be thrust into some kind of nightmare is scaremongering. However, if you appointed someone in the second half of the season and we were in a similar situation to where we are now then that would be much more difficult. Great post. Our problem is our playing style or lack of. Even with the injuries we have enough good players to be much better than we are currently showing but we need a coaching infrastructure that has a plan A never mind B, C and D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Randy Marsh said: Plenty of excellent candidates out there. Even some that wouldn't require compensation like Neil Harris. He did a brilliant job for Millwall and might relish the chance to manage us (the opponents in his benefit match). How exactly did he do a "brilliant" job at Millwall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, karipidis said: How is it not getting worse? The run of results is the joint worst in our history, and even with the injuries, the players we have throughout the squad should be more than capable of being a top six side. How many games have been lost due to crazy individual errors. We've lost games due to crazy defending and downright bad luck. My view is that nothing has changed though. 12 months ago we lost key players through injury, we're still missing key players through injury. Levein is going to be here until the end of the season so why not just get behind the team, you'll get your managerial change soon enough. I just hope you're happy when we do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, TexasAndy said: Great post. Our problem is our playing style or lack of. Even with the injuries we have enough good players to be much better than we are currently showing but we need a coaching infrastructure that has a plan A never mind B, C and D. So when you have a Plan A and lose the players to play it do you continue with Plan A or move to a Plan B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandylejambo Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Spoleto said: How many games have been lost due to crazy individual errors. We've lost games due to crazy defending and downright bad luck. My view is that nothing has changed though. 12 months ago we lost key players through injury, we're still missing key players through injury. Levein is going to be here until the end of the season so why not just get behind the team, you'll get your managerial change soon enough. I just hope you're happy when we do! Individual errors and the individuals keep getting a game because Levein has his favourites and he can't change his bloodymindedness, and he thinks his system (whatever it is) is going to come good and we'll all be proved wrong and he'll be proved right. The mans a joke of a coach and should have been emptied months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Spoleto said: How many games have been lost due to crazy individual errors. We've lost games due to crazy defending and downright bad luck. My view is that nothing has changed though. 12 months ago we lost key players through injury, we're still missing key players through injury. Levein is going to be here until the end of the season so why not just get behind the team, you'll get your managerial change soon enough. I just hope you're happy when we do! I’ll try this for a third time as the last two attempts were ignored. This thread was started after the awful performance against St Mirren in Feb when they were sitting bottom of the League. Naismith, Soapy, Haring, Berra, Uche etc all played and the tactics were awful. There was good reason to start the thread then and it’s existence has been justified ever since. The manager was, and is, the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, Boab said: I’ll try this for a third time as the last two attempts were ignored. This thread was started after the awful performance against St Mirren in Feb when they were sitting bottom of the League. Naismith, Soapy, Haring, Berra, Uche etc all played and the tactics were awful. There was good reason to start the thread then and it’s existence has been justified ever since. The manager was, and is, the problem. What do you mean by "I'll try this for a third time"? You've stated your position. What do you want me to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, Spoleto said: What do you mean by "I'll try this for a third time"? You've stated your position. What do you want me to do? Offer an opinion on why a team with all our good players in it couldn’t beat a team bottom of the league because we played a 3-6-1 formation ? If you want that is ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 People keep banging on about having the 4th biggest budget so we should be doing better. Take the wages out of that budget for all the players that have been injured and you may find that CL has actually been punching above his weight finishing top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, Boab said: Offer an opinion on why a team with all our good players in it couldn’t beat a team bottom of the league because we played a 3-6-1 formation ? If you want that is ! Shit happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Spoleto said: People keep banging on about having the 4th biggest budget so we should be doing better. Take the wages out of that budget for all the players that have been injured and you may find that CL has actually been punching above his weight finishing top 6. 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Spoleto said: People keep banging on about having the 4th biggest budget so we should be doing better. Take the wages out of that budget for all the players that have been injured and you may find that CL has actually been punching above his weight finishing top 6. That is a very valid point which no one can deny. Our better budget is in the treatment room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjh1874 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Spoleto said: People keep banging on about having the 4th biggest budget so we should be doing better. Take the wages out of that budget for all the players that have been injured and you may find that CL has actually been punching above his weight finishing top 6. See if you are blind and take the half facts into account I'd still struggle to give that credibility. Squad is an issue and the associated injuries to a certain extent. However our ISSUE is the set-up and the way first picks, reserves, kids et al are asked to deploy under the clown that is in charge. Look NO further! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Spoleto said: How many games have been lost due to crazy individual errors. We've lost games due to crazy defending and downright bad luck. My view is that nothing has changed though. 12 months ago we lost key players through injury, we're still missing key players through injury. Levein is going to be here until the end of the season so why not just get behind the team, you'll get your managerial change soon enough. I just hope you're happy when we do! I will be ecstatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Spoleto said: "but again he’s had these players this season and last and it’s steadily getting worse." And they were injured this season and last. It's not getting worse, but it's not getting better - until we get some of our 1st choice players playing. It's really quite simple. SPOT ON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Spoleto said: How exactly did he do a "brilliant" job at Millwall? Got Millwall promoted to the Championship. He then kept them in the Championship for several years despite operating on one of the lowest budgets in the league each season. In a very competitive league as well. He also had some good cup runs where many Premier League scalps were taken. I thought you might have known this since you and your fellow apoligists like to bring up Leveins good cup record in recent times. Obviously that fact just applies for Levein when discussing potential candidates. Your lack of football knowledge is staggering but hardly surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 word of the day: Apologist is used a lot these days and not just on here. As it only means speaking in defence of something unpopular or controversial I feel it’s an overused term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said: Got Millwall promoted to the Championship. He then kept them in the Championship for several years despite operating on one of the lowest budgets in the league each season. In a very competitive league as well. He also had some good cup runs where many Premier League scalps were taken. I thought you might have known this since you and your fellow apoligists like to bring up Leveins good cup record in recent times. Obviously that fact just applies for Levein when discussing potential candidates. Your lack of football knowledge is staggering but hardly surprising. Maybe Hearts didn't think he was good enough and that is a view probably shared by many other clubs as they obviously haven't sought him out. Good managers don't remain unemployed for long so it will be interesting to see who comes for him first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Ok first post but have been reading the board for a long long time. Just felt I had to comment on the recent infighting. It's seem so obvious to me that those who are defending Levein are either trolls or supporters of the caravan dwellers. I dislike the term PHM but to be fair I would like to think that Hearts fans would not truly fight like this. I am in the Levein out camp and don't support him moving back to the DoF role. In fact I can't see a need for such a role at Hearts, pretty sure someone on the board could do the negotiations re player contracts without it being a specific job. For me the manager uses the scouts to identify players he would like, and who would fit into his style of play. He then hands said list to the board for approval and a board members then sit down with players agents to work out if we can afford to sign him. IF we do require a specific DoF role then he should be over seeing the over all running of the football club, without interfering with the manager and his tactics. The manager should be taking training on a daily basis and using his coaches to interact with the players, getting them playing to the managers instructions. Lastly I would like Ann to stay on in some role, but having said that, she is tarnishing all she has done by supporting Levein above and beyond his welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said: Got Millwall promoted to the Championship. He then kept them in the Championship for several years despite operating on one of the lowest budgets in the league each season. In a very competitive league as well. He also had some good cup runs where many Premier League scalps were taken. I thought you might have known this since you and your fellow apoligists like to bring up Leveins good cup record in recent times. Obviously that fact just applies for Levein when discussing potential candidates. Your lack of football knowledge is staggering but hardly surprising. The year they got promoted they finished 6th in the league to get into the play offs. He might be considered to have been lucky. I'll take your word about his budget in the championship. Do you know where Millwall come in terms of their budget compared to other clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Ok first post but have been reading the board for a long long time. Just felt I had to comment on the recent infighting. It's seem so obvious to me that those who are defending Levein are either trolls or supporters of the caravan dwellers. I dislike the term PHM but to be fair I would like to think that Hearts fans would not truly fight like this. I am in the Levein out camp and don't support him moving back to the DoF role. In fact I can't see a need for such a role at Hearts, pretty sure someone on the board could do the negotiations re player contracts without it being a specific job. For me the manager uses the scouts to identify players he would like, and who would fit into his style of play. He then hands said list to the board for approval and a board members then sit down with players agents to work out if we can afford to sign him. IF we do require a specific DoF role then he should be over seeing the over all running of the football club, without interfering with the manager and his tactics. The manager should be taking training on a daily basis and using his coaches to interact with the players, getting them playing to the managers instructions. Lastly I would like Ann to stay on in some role, but having said that, she is tarnishing all she has done by supporting Levein above and beyond his welcome. With a username like that you can say whatever you like and i doubt anyone will be challenging you to a 'square-go' round the back of the Wheatfield anytime soon Not much wrong with your post, by the way (and i am not just saying that!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Maybe Hearts didn't think he was good enough and that is a view probably shared by many other clubs as they obviously haven't sought him out. Good managers don't remain unemployed for long so it will be interesting to see who comes for him first Know one else had been considered for over two years now since no good managers want to work under Levein. Agree with your 2nd point though. My guess is not very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Nookie Bear said: With a username like that you can say whatever you like and i doubt anyone will be challenging you to a 'square-go' round the back of the Wheatfield anytime soon Not much wrong with your post, by the way (and i am not just saying that!) Thanks Bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Ok first post but have been reading the board for a long long time. Just felt I had to comment on the recent infighting. It's seem so obvious to me that those who are defending Levein are either trolls or supporters of the caravan dwellers. I dislike the term PHM but to be fair I would like to think that Hearts fans would not truly fight like this. I am in the Levein out camp and don't support him moving back to the DoF role. In fact I can't see a need for such a role at Hearts, pretty sure someone on the board could do the negotiations re player contracts without it being a specific job. For me the manager uses the scouts to identify players he would like, and who would fit into his style of play. He then hands said list to the board for approval and a board members then sit down with players agents to work out if we can afford to sign him. IF we do require a specific DoF role then he should be over seeing the over all running of the football club, without interfering with the manager and his tactics. The manager should be taking training on a daily basis and using his coaches to interact with the players, getting them playing to the managers instructions. Lastly I would like Ann to stay on in some role, but having said that, she is tarnishing all she has done by supporting Levein above and beyond his welcome. Your first post and straight away you attack and vilify everyone that has a different opinion to you. And you call other people trolls 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: With a username like that you can say whatever you like and i doubt anyone will be challenging you to a 'square-go' round the back of the Wheatfield anytime soon Not much wrong with your post, by the way (and i am not just saying that!) Oh dear !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiler Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Oh dear !!! How did you fill your days before you starting spamming the **** out this place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, smiler said: How did you fill your days before you starting spamming the **** out this place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Oh dear !!! And with a username like yours i would keep it shut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Spoleto said: So when you have a Plan A and lose the players to play it do you continue with Plan A or move to a Plan B? I am still waiting for a Plan A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Spoleto said: Shit happens? Exactly. Shit has been happening. It’s been happening far too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Ok first post but have been reading the board for a long long time. Just felt I had to comment on the recent infighting. It's seem so obvious to me that those who are defending Levein are either trolls or supporters of the caravan dwellers. I dislike the term PHM but to be fair I would like to think that Hearts fans would not truly fight like this. I am in the Levein out camp and don't support him moving back to the DoF role. In fact I can't see a need for such a role at Hearts, pretty sure someone on the board could do the negotiations re player contracts without it being a specific job. For me the manager uses the scouts to identify players he would like, and who would fit into his style of play. He then hands said list to the board for approval and a board members then sit down with players agents to work out if we can afford to sign him. IF we do require a specific DoF role then he should be over seeing the over all running of the football club, without interfering with the manager and his tactics. The manager should be taking training on a daily basis and using his coaches to interact with the players, getting them playing to the managers instructions. Lastly I would like Ann to stay on in some role, but having said that, she is tarnishing all she has done by supporting Levein above and beyond his welcome. Reinforcements arrive. Opening salvo... Anyone who disagrees with me is a hibs troll. If you don't think Hearts fans would fight like this, then you can't go to the games. Plenty arguments in the stands, even fighting. Seen it at the lc sf and some have reported incidents on here over the past 6 months. The rest of your post is an opinion, like thousands of others who would think differently in regards to scouts, DoF and Ann which your welcome to, but don't call folk who disagree with you a hibs troll. It's lazy and untrue. Edited October 17, 2019 by Smith's right boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Maybe Hearts didn't think he was good enough and that is a view probably shared by many other clubs as they obviously haven't sought him out. Good managers don't remain unemployed for long so it will be interesting to see who comes for him first. Nonsense. And the English managerial merry go round of utter failures proves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Shark Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Nonsense. And the English managerial merry go round of utter failures proves it. Gary Monk leaps to mind to reinforce your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, smiler said: How did you fill your days before you starting spamming the **** out this place? Spamming the **** out of this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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