YouLetYourClubDie Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sagan said: It's frightening. I reckon he could hit 50 goals this season and the experts would still compare him to Reilly and Wyness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 **** me is this thread going to surface with his every goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyespana Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Time to close this thread mods its getting boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, jambopilms said: WTF is wrong with people on here. Couldn't t give a shit about Shankland, it just another excuse to knock the club. Or more specifically our manager. It gets so tiresome . What about threads about duffers we didn't sign or, as another poster said, how about getting behind the club for a while til we see how the season? Possibly too non confrontational for some? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Sagan said: We're not signing him. We get it. We're just pointing out that he was worth taking a chance on and so is anyone else that is banging in the goals in 1 league down from us. The stupidity on here is relentless. correct...the stupidity on here is relentless, but you'll never win argueing with arseholes, cause you can't reason with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, YouLetYourClubDie said: I reckon he could hit 50 goals this season and the experts would still compare him to Reilly and Wyness. Aye more than likely. There's wad of people on here that just stick up for everything the club does no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, deejtee said: Or more specifically our manager. It gets so tiresome . What about threads about duffers we didn't sign or, as another poster said, how about getting behind the club for a while til we see how the season? Possibly too non confrontational for some? Probably cause people are pissed off talking about the high wage earning shite we've regularly signed in last 3/4 years....just putting it out there!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Sagan said: We're not signing him. We get it. We're just pointing out that he was worth taking a chance on and so is anyone else that is banging in the goals in 1 league down from us. The stupidity on here is relentless. I get that mate. And others have pointed out their side of the debate too. It’s how it’s supposed to work. Neither side is any further forward though. It’s completely pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: **** me is this thread going to surface with his every goal? Every time he plays. This was bumped before the game started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 United don't look anything special. Will be up there but other sides have a good chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, hmfc_liam06 said: **** me is this thread going to surface with his every goal? A thread on a football forum about a footballer....who'd have thunk it..............just ignore it.....keepping your pants dry in the process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, gedster said: Don't doubt that about championship wages, yet, we paid the best part of a quarter of a million for Wighton, who in a season, has collected a signing on fee and anSPL wage and contributed the square route of absolutely feck all Shankland has already scored more goals for Unt than Wighton will score for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: I get that mate. And others have pointed out their side of the debate too. It’s how it’s supposed to work. Neither side is any further forward though. It’s completely pointless. Fair enough but it's worth talking about, unlike most of the other threads that divert to talking about trains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Yoda said: Shankland has already scored more goals for Unt than Wighton will score for us. I fear you are right but try telling it to the happy clappers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Yoda said: Shankland has already scored more goals for Unt than Wighton will score for us. Shit league though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouLetYourClubDie Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, gedster said: Don't doubt that about championship wages, yet, we paid the best part of a quarter of a million for Wighton, who in a season, has collected a signing on fee and anSPL wage and contributed the square route of absolutely feck all To make things worse Wighton could not get a game for Dundee before we splashed big money on him and even the Dundee fans thought he was pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Shit league though I wonder how many goals wighton would score in the championship. Probably 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 What’s all the Wighton chat about? Was it one or the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Shit league though True, but Wighton didn't score many in that league either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouLetYourClubDie Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Shit league though We didn't have anyone hit 20 goals when we were in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Mikey1874 said: Shit league though People on here still think Wighton (= 0 goals for us ) is actually an SPL player. The same people probably also think Shankland is only a Championship player ( 5 league goals already)............I know which one I'd pay a transfer and signing on fee for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, Sagan said: Dundee utd can't afford mental wages ffs. We could easily pay him what he's on. We're signing players from cardiff and sheffield utd ffs. Utd will get up this year and it will be down to his goals. I never said we couldn’t afford them, but us and many other teams weren’t willing to pay what he was asking for, when he’d only played well at that level. You might have noticed he’s still only scoring goals at that level, so did Gavin Reilly and Dennis Wyness. Dundee United were the only team wanting to pay him that because they’re desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: What’s all the Wighton chat about? Was it one or the other? Wighton chat is about us paying money for him and he's shit, after a long history of us signing shit young scottish strikers. Shankland comes a long, scores a barrel load of goals, most of us say we should sign him, but we dont. So we're all like WTF I can't really make it anymore clearer. Edited August 9, 2019 by Sagan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 He's fairly decent at Championship level but I doubt he could make the step up. There's been loads like him the last few years. Utd would probably punt him to another Championship side if they get promoted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Sagan said: Wighton chat is about us paying money for him and he's shit, after a long history of us signing shit young scottish strikers. Shankland comes a long, scores a barrel load of goals, most of us say we should sign him, but we dont. So we're all like WTF Shankland would have cost us a signing on fee and salary. He was also a proven goal scorer which Wighton has never been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, YouLetYourClubDie said: We didn't have anyone hit 20 goals when we were in it. Is it better to have a player score 20 goals or a team score 96 goals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouLetYourClubDie Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: The goalscorer said, "I want to continue my development at Dundee United. Despite having offers from clubs in both Scotland and England, it is clear to me that this is the best club for my next step. I cannot wait to get started in tangerine." https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/news/6126/UNITED-ANNOUNCE-SHANKLAND-SIGNING.html 34 goals for Ayr 😯😯 Absolutely mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sagan said: Wighton chat is about us paying money for him and he's shit, after a long history of us signing shit young scottish strikers. Shankland comes a long, scores a barrel load of goals, most of us say we should sign him, but we dont. So we're all like WTF I can't really make it anymore clearer. What are you saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sagan said: Wighton chat is about us paying money for him and he's shit, after a long history of us signing shit young scottish strikers. Shankland comes a long, scores a barrel load of goals, most of us say we should sign him, but we dont. So we're all like WTF I can't really make it anymore clearer. Should start a petition and send it to the club. Could do a FOH sponsored player and do a big poll on who we should sign. Do one player a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, YouLetYourClubDie said: 34 goals for Ayr 😯😯 Absolutely mental. He gets a bit of variety. Gets to play against Dundee and Arbroath this season. Top football development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Mikey1874 said: What are you saying? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Byyy The Light said: Should start a petition and send it to the club. Could do a FOH sponsored player and do a big poll on who we should sign. Do one player a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, gedster said: Probably cause people are pissed off talking about the high wage earning shite we've regularly signed in last 3/4 years....just putting it out there!!!! Other "people" are also well aware he was an option that ended up elsewhere and will score goals for United. Does anyone know if we did or didn't talk to him, did or didn't rate him? Either way your tiresome bringing this up and "putting it out there" has been done to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouLetYourClubDie Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: Is it better to have a player score 20 goals or a team score 96 goals? Not a straight comparison and if it was so easy to score goals in the Championship then we would have had someone hit 20 given Shankland hit 34. What has held us back over the last 2 decades is having a poacher in the side but it seems we never go for players like this for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Byyy The Light said: Should start a petition and send it to the club. Could do a FOH sponsored player and do a big poll on who we should sign. Do one player a season. That might not be as crazy as it sounds. We'd need to ban a few folk on here though. or we'd end up with utter shite players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, YouLetYourClubDie said: We didn't have anyone hit 20 goals when we were in it. We didn't have any striker fit for long enough or play enough games unfortunately. For a team who scored 102 goals in all competitions we had no luck with injuries to our main strikers that season. IMO Sow, Keattings, and Zeefuik would easily have score 20 goals if they had been fit the whole season. Zeefuik was top goal scorer with 12 goals and only made 13 starts and 2 subs appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, YouLetYourClubDie said: Not a straight comparison and if it was so easy to score goals in the Championship then we would have had someone hit 20 given Shankland hit 34. What has held us back over the last 2 decades is having a poacher in the side but it seems we never go for players like this for some reason. What. It was piss easy to score goals in the Championship, we got 96 of them. Despite putting the speedos on with 7 games to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sagan said: That might not be as crazy as it sounds. We'd need to ban a few folk on here though. or we'd end up with utter shite players. Would just be for FOH members. Dunno how to get the shortlist though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 So many dumb asses on here that only see things in 1D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouLetYourClubDie Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, queensferryjambo said: We didn't have any striker fit for long enough or play enough games unfortunately. For a team who scored 102 goals in all competitions we had no luck with injuries to our main strikers that season. IMO Sow, Keattings, and Zeefuik would easily have score 20 goals if they had been fit the whole season. Zeefuik was top goal scorer with 12 goals and only made 13 starts and 2 subs appearances. That is all spot on but the way people talk about the Championship on here it should be that easy to score that even playing in half the games it should be possible. Shankland has 5 in 2 games so even with him playing half the games he will likely hit 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: What. It was piss easy to score goals in the Championship, we got 96 of them. Despite putting the speedos on with 7 games to go. Hearts also won arguably the hardest Championship in history. Dundee Utd are the best side in that Championship and should win it comfortably. Not only do they have the goals from Shankland they have a very good team with decent players in all positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sagan said: Seriously? That you are not happy with Hearts, don't like Levein and probably think 'we're in the wrong hands'. Is what you are saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouLetYourClubDie Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Mikey1874 said: That you are not happy with Hearts, don't like Levein and probably think 'we're in the wrong hands'. Is what you are saying. Or that he realises that Levein's signing strategy has been more miss than hit to the point that Budge has given him an ultimatum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: That you are not happy with Hearts, don't like Levein and probably think 'we're in the wrong hands'. Is what you are saying. Through green tinted specs no doubt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Mikey1874 said: That you are not happy with Hearts, don't like Levein and probably think 'we're in the wrong hands'. Is what you are saying. You really shouldn't put words in peoples mouths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sandiego Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Lots of assumptions on this thread. Who's confirmed Hearts didn't want to sign him? Why do some posters assume if Hearts wanted him, he would bump all other offers and come here? Why, after all the failed "gamble" type signings in the past 3 seasons, are some fans suggesting we should have taken another gamble? Its all pointless discussion anyway, he signed for Dundee United. The amount of time some fans waste getting wound up about stuff we have no control over is mind boggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sadj Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Sagan said: An interesting article from last year on how we've improved our scouting network and that it will take time. So basically admitting that the previous network was dug shite. However, it does seem like most of the better players we've signed since then have been players that Levein has worked with or wanted previously or players that MacPhee has known or worked with.. https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hearts-assistant-austin-macphee-how-15235333 Levein stated (possibly two years ago at the agm???) that the scouting system was decimated when they came in , Therefore after sorting the Academy attention was turned to getting full time scouts back in places and rebuilding the network. I think this window has shown the transition from numbers to quality , hopefully that continues.... Like what he said about Tzolis too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Johnny Sandiego said: Lots of assumptions on this thread. Who's confirmed Hearts didn't want to sign him? Why do some posters assume if Hearts wanted him, he would bump all other offers and come here? Why, after all the failed "gamble" type signings in the past 3 seasons, are some fans suggesting we should have taken another gamble? Its all pointless discussion anyway, he signed for Dundee United. The amount of time some fans waste getting wound up about stuff we have no control over is mind boggling. 🤫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Sagan said: The step up from the championship to the SPFL isn't as big as people make out, at least in the bottom six. Most people just go by the poor signings we've made from the championship. This isn't hard. Either Shankland was wanted by clubs, maybe even us, but he chose to stay in the Championship, or he wasn't wanted by clubs and D Utd was his best option. If it's the former, we couldn't sign him anyway. If it's the latter, there's obviously something lacking in his game that means clubs don't want to take a chance on him. Either way, who cares. But right now he's completely unproven at a higher level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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