Maroon Sailor Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 How much did Dundee United splash out on Shankland ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 How much are they paying him ? Just because they got him on a free doesnt mean they dont have to pay him and maybe thought we could spend the wage elsewhere. We didnt fancy him even on a free so there has to be something up. Maybe as I stated we have too many players in that position on contracts already, could be any number of reasons. What it does state though is the club were not prepared to pay a wage on a player who hasnt been proven at SPL level and didnt think it was worth the gamble. If this turns out to be a mistake Im sure you will spend no time venting on here to anyone who will listen. We can continue to pick up the best players in the championship every year and still not get one that can play at this level, or we could do what hibs done and fill our entire team of championship level players and play them in the SPL. Simple fact is we didnt sign him and that wont change for the time being. I even doubt we will ever sign him but the chances of him playing and being as prolific at even top SPL level are slim. Maybe you should send all your signing targets on a budget to the club and we will have a team capable of winning everything in a few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 What did we pay for Wighton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jackal said: How much are they paying him ? Just because they got him on a free doesnt mean they dont have to pay him and maybe thought we could spend the wage elsewhere. We didnt fancy him even on a free so there has to be something up. Maybe as I stated we have too many players in that position on contracts already, could be any number of reasons. What it does state though is the club were not prepared to pay a wage on a player who hasnt been proven at SPL level and didnt think it was worth the gamble. If this turns out to be a mistake Im sure you will spend no time venting on here to anyone who will listen. We can continue to pick up the best players in the championship every year and still not get one that can play at this level, or we could do what hibs done and fill our entire team of championship level players and play them in the SPL. Simple fact is we didnt sign him and that wont change for the time being. I even doubt we will ever sign him but the chances of him playing and being as prolific at even top SPL level are slim. Maybe you should send all your signing targets on a budget to the club and we will have a team capable of winning everything in a few seasons. Fecking behave yourself and stop acting like a bairn You are so much in denial about Shankland you are praying he flops at United. A free transfer gamble - heard it all now Edited July 20, 2019 by Maroon Sailor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, jambonian said: What did we pay for Wighton? Whatever it was it was too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Only one acting like a bairn is yourself. You obviously think the club should have signed Shankland but they didnt so your toys are oot the pram. You must know better than the club with signing policies so you are arguing against anyone who says we shouldnt have signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, jackal said: Only one acting like a bairn is yourself. You obviously think the club should have signed Shankland but they didnt so your toys are oot the pram. You must know better than the club with signing policies so you are arguing against anyone who says we shouldnt have signed him. You are the one that's asking questions about why he chose Dundee United like anybody on here would know and in doing so assuming he's not good enough for free scoring Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: Fecking behave yourself and stop acting like a bairn You are so much in denial about Shankland you are praying he flops at United. A free transfer gamble - heard it all now Reputedly a £200k signing on fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, jambonian said: What did we pay for Wighton? Coupla hundred grand I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 So tell me why he chose Utd then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Also waste of time editing posts after you post them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, jackal said: So tell me why he chose Utd then. Are we supposed to know that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, jackal said: Also waste of time editing posts after you post them. Sorry I'll edit them before I post them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Well you seem to know everything else. One thing I do know is we never signed him. Why not go and start a thread about Wighton to cheer yourself up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Is this thread gonna stay open until he retires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Easy to add to an edit after a post to make it look better. I have no interest if Shankland flops at utd. And a free transfer isnt free as I said before. He still needs to be paid. Just to answer your edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TweedbankJambo Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 The lad has a scent for goal you can't teach, we should've went for him imo.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: Whatever it was it was too much It's amazing that so many posters are happy to talk about Shankland being young and able to develop further. He turns 24 in a couple of weeks. Wighton has just turned 21 and already been written off by most Hearts fans. At the age Wighton is now, Shankland was being repeatedly loaned out to the lower leagues by Aberdeen as they'd written him off. In the equivalent of the season we are about to go into for Wighton (I.e. 21 years old) Shankland was about to start a season long loan at St Mirren, but they sent him back after 6 months having failed to score a league goal that season (he'd done better there the previous season). He then went out to Morton for the second half of the season, finishing the season with 4 goals in 33 games. Maybe something for Hearts fans to think about as they slaughter Wighton yet again. Now for the love of God, isn't it time to close this thread. Every other thread about an individual player seems to be immediately merged into one of the giant threads. Shouldn't this one be merged into the non-Hearts summer transfer thread and save us from it being bumped every single time that Shankland scores in the Championship and someone fancies using it as a stick to beat Hearts with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said: It's amazing that so many posters are happy to talk about Shankland being young and able to develop further. He turns 24 in a couple of weeks. Wighton has just turned 21 and already been written off by most Hearts fans. At the age Wighton is now, Shankland was being repeatedly loaned out to the lower leagues by Aberdeen as they'd written him off. In the equivalent of the season we are about to go into for Wighton (I.e. 21 years old) Shankland was about to start a season long loan at St Mirren, but they sent him back after 6 months having failed to score a league goal that season (he'd done better there the previous season). He then went out to Morton for the second half of the season, finishing the season with 4 goals in 33 games. Maybe something for Hearts fans to think about as they slaughter Wighton yet again. Now for the love of God, isn't it time to close this thread. Every other thread about an individual player seems to be immediately merged into one of the giant threads. Shouldn't this one be merged into the non-Hearts summer transfer thread and save us from it being bumped every single time that Shankland scores in the Championship and someone fancies using it as a stick to beat Hearts with. You're right about the age thing. However I'm willing to bet Wighton will still be crap when he's 24. You can't coach balls into someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said: It's amazing that so many posters are happy to talk about Shankland being young and able to develop further. He turns 24 in a couple of weeks. Wighton has just turned 21 and already been written off by most Hearts fans. At the age Wighton is now, Shankland was being repeatedly loaned out to the lower leagues by Aberdeen as they'd written him off. In the equivalent of the season we are about to go into for Wighton (I.e. 21 years old) Shankland was about to start a season long loan at St Mirren, but they sent him back after 6 months having failed to score a league goal that season (he'd done better there the previous season). He then went out to Morton for the second half of the season, finishing the season with 4 goals in 33 games. Maybe something for Hearts fans to think about as they slaughter Wighton yet again. Now for the love of God, isn't it time to close this thread. Every other thread about an individual player seems to be immediately merged into one of the giant threads. Shouldn't this one be merged into the non-Hearts summer transfer thread and save us from it being bumped every single time that Shankland scores in the Championship and someone fancies using it as a stick to beat Hearts with. Being way too fair on wighton there imo. Need to rip into him at every opportunity like a phm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Fort Vallance said: You're right about the age thing. However I'm willing to bet Wighton will still be crap when he's 24. You can't coach balls into someone. And I'd be willing to bet that if you went back 3 years you'd find Aberdeen fans saying the same about Shankland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, jackal said: Easy to add to an edit after a post to make it look better. I have no interest if Shankland flops at utd. And a free transfer isnt free as I said before. He still needs to be paid. Just to answer your edit. Easy to edit after you have read a reply to your question after you've posted your initial reply. I'll just type a new message in future just to keep you happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 hours ago, TweedbankJambo said: The lad has a scent for goal you can't teach, we should've went for him imo.. Well..... a man with 6 posts can always say "I told you so"........... except you didn't lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 12 hours ago, jackal said: The gamble is exactly what you say, a gamble. Some supporters complain about players already at the club because they arent at the level of players who have played in the highest leagues in Europe. If I had the choice between Washington and Shankland I would take Washington only because of the level he has played at in comparison to Shanlkland. The club has already taken gambles on Uche, Lee,Haring,Clare,Wighton and Mulraney to name a few and people still complain because we didnt finish top 4. You cant keep taking gambles and expect to finish in the top few places. Im sure we would all love to sign That one player who goes on to be prolific at every level they play but its fairytale stuff. Hearts had plenty to lose in signing a player and paying and giving him a place in the team not knowing if he would be any better than whats at the club already. Washington doesn’t score goals though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Natural Orders said: Washington doesn’t score goals though He doesn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Natural Orders said: Washington doesn’t score goals though 129 goals so far in his career not enough? It's more than Lafferty and Naismith, and nobody was complaining about them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Natural Orders said: Washington doesn’t score goals though Good insight mate. Keen to hear more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Maybe we should just go for Mitch Megginson then = 49 goal last season for Cove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TweedbankJambo Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 9 hours ago, tcjambo said: Well..... a man with 6 posts can always say "I told you so"........... except you didn't lol. Why is a number of posts important to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: Maybe we should just go for Mitch Megginson then = 49 goal last season for Cove Nah we have to wait to see if any other Premiership clubs are interested and are prepared to take a gamble on someone who will cost chicken feed all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 15 hours ago, Jamhammer said: Is this thread gonna stay open until he retires? Yes, it's the player version of Robbie shoogly nail thread. He scored against us, doesn't every struggling CF always do against us. But United completely unimpressed me, which doesn't help player. Can see the Robbie shoogly nail thread being revived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 This thread is what it is because there is probably not one Hearts fan that would have been disappointed if Shankland ended up in a Hearts shirt. Nothing to lose in signing him. A free hit to try and solve our problems in front of goal. Could have worked well with Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Tenor said: 129 goals so far in his career not enough? It's more than Lafferty and Naismith, and nobody was complaining about them! When did he last score a goal in open play in a competitive game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Natural Orders said: When did he last score a goal in open play in a competitive game? Shall we maybe wait before we judge him, aye? Remember John Sutton? Form doesn’t always transfer to a different team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telford Jambo Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 It may be as simple as Levein not having a space for a penalty box striker in his team. As I see it, the central striker in Levein's team requires to be somebody that can hold the ball up. Having only seen Shankland once, at the United game last week, he doesn't appear to have the ability to hold the ball up. On that basis , it would be an entirely pointless signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 48 minutes ago, Tenor said: Shall we maybe wait before we judge him, aye? Remember John Sutton? Form doesn’t always transfer to a different team! Excellent example, I mind when we signed him and I thought we had found someone who would bang in the goals for us, just didn’t work out like that in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brux Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Telford Jambo said: It may be as simple as Levein not having a space for a penalty box striker in his team. As I see it, the central striker in Levein's team requires to be somebody that can hold the ball up. Having only seen Shankland once, at the United game last week, he doesn't appear to have the ability to hold the ball up. On that basis , it would be an entirely pointless signing. Finally, someone understands it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Telford Jambo said: It may be as simple as Levein not having a space for a penalty box striker in his team. As I see it, the central striker in Levein's team requires to be somebody that can hold the ball up. Having only seen Shankland once, at the United game last week, he doesn't appear to have the ability to hold the ball up. On that basis , it would be an entirely pointless signing. We've had pointless signings in the past Vanecek ? Everybody raved about him ! Absolute pony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telford Jambo Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: We've had pointless signings in the past Vanecek ? Everybody raved about him ! Absolute pony No argument from me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 How did he get on tonight.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jamboelite said: How did he get on tonight.......... Unavailable I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie_Burns Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, To Be Frank said: Unavailable I think Played the full 90mins according to BBC Scotland website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rabbie_Burns said: Played the full 90mins according to BBC Scotland website Don’t think so mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 It's just as ridiculous to judge him on one game where he didn't score as it is to roll out the hyperbole for two games in which he did. It will be interesting to see how he does this season overall. I personally don't think we've missed out to any great extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: Don’t think so mate Dundee United v East Fife - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48998155 Played the full 90 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jamboelite said: How did he get on tonight.......... Got the full 90 minutes. Good for fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Rabbie_Burns said: Played the full 90mins according to BBC Scotland website 6 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: Don’t think so mate So what did he do? Late sub? Dundee United had him on at 88 minutes. I'll check the subs now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Oh look, more lies about Shankland playing tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alex Kintner Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Martin_T said: Dundee United v East Fife - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48998155 Played the full 90 minutes. Must be a mistake like the mistake they made in the Mulraney article with the number of goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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