Lovecraft Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, milky_26 said: and the last goal he scored was 22nd sept 2018 Yup. He's broken. Which is probably why he is trying to come back to Edinburgh. To retire. Edited June 23, 2019 by Lovecraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 38 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: I’d take Holt. You can have him. Keep him away from Hearts please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dunks said: You can have him. Keep him away from Hearts please Totally agree ! If we want to move onto the next level we need far better than holt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Jamie Walker improves our current squad. Therefore I would take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyhmfc Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 All depends on what walker we get. That is the critical question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 minute ago, daveyhmfc said: All depends on what walker we get. That is the critical question. Attitude won't be a problem, if it was no chance it could happen. Knee however........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 If Jamie Walker comes back and is fit and focused (I know it's a big if) then he will be a big player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 No chance levein will go for JW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam? Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 minute ago, jambopilms said: No chance levein will go for JW. Levein has been courting jw for a number of months now. Deal on table JW just needs to negotiate release from Wigan which is not as smooth as first hoped. Source JW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, sam? said: Levein has been courting jw for a number of months now. Deal on table JW just needs to negotiate release from Wigan which is not as smooth as first hoped. Source JW Ok, I believe it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, sam? said: Levein has been courting jw for a number of months now. Deal on table JW just needs to negotiate release from Wigan which is not as smooth as first hoped. Source JW Probably because they realise whats happened and now want their money back! Can't blame them, but we should be prepared to walk away if Walker and his wonderful super ethical agent can't sort something out. We're not the first club his agents tried to punt his client to whilst under contract... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I am not sure what to make of this transfer window,in a way I am glad we are not jumping in signing journeymen but part of me thinks that this is Leveins what 4th window? since becoming manager and surely ground work is done on targets and his mind is clear on what he wants and where we are going,hopefully we see movement in the next week to get players ready to go at the start of the season,fed up with being a rehabilitation club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Mort said: Jamie Walker improves our current squad. Therefore I would take him. This. Martin out, Walker in. All of a sudden we have a proven attacking midfielder at a good age. Like any signing we’d know if it’s a good one after the first round of fixtures. Or in some people’s minds after the first 5 mins of the first game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Bacon Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: I am not sure what to make of this transfer window,in a way I am glad we are not jumping in signing journeymen but part of me thinks that this is Leveins what 4th window? since becoming manager and surely ground work is done on targets and his mind is clear on what he wants and where we are going,hopefully we see movement in the next week to get players ready to go at the start of the season,fed up with being a rehabilitation club. The January windows are not much good unless you have money to spend, as decent targets will be under contract until the end of the season. The other main problem of changing managers too often is that each will inherit players that they don't really fancy, a difficult task to rectify when budget is tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Walker has literally not played football in 2019. He is coming back from yet more surgery, and most probably will not play in 2019 at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: This. Martin out, Walker in. All of a sudden we have a proven attacking midfielder at a good age. Like any signing we’d know if it’s a good one after the first round of fixtures. Or in some people’s minds after the first 5 mins of the first game. Agreed but, we need to temper the contract to keep him hungry whilst also reflecting the fact that he's returning from injury. A fit and motivated Jamie Walker will do well for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D. Corners Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: This. Martin out, Walker in. All of a sudden we have a proven attacking midfielder at a good age. Like any signing we’d know if it’s a good one after the first round of fixtures. Or in some people’s minds after the first 5 mins of the first game. Said similar about a month ago. At the time i said swapping Sammon for Walker would improve the squad even if he kicks the ball just once. Nobody wanted Webster back, but he came back and did a job. Nobody wantwd Temps back, but people were wanting him back before his move from Hamilton to Burton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: Walker has literally not played football in 2019. He is coming back from yet more surgery, and most probably will not play in 2019 at all. Aidy White hasn’t played since 2017? Doesn’t seem to be an issue for us signing players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 20 hours ago, daveyhmfc said: Wonder how many pages this thread will get to before we sign someone. I think that it will be in excess of 80 pages. I think we will see some activity this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I acknowledge the fact that my standards are low and my tactical football knowledge is akin to that of a herring but if we signed Walker and Lafferty i would proper Stanton myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, busby1985 said: Aidy White hasn’t played since 2017? Doesn’t seem to be an issue for us signing players. Yep, but White won't be getting what Walker would expect to be paid. If we get him on loan and pay 25% of his wage, fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenaciousdandy Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, busby1985 said: Aidy White hasn’t played since 2017? Doesn’t seem to be an issue for us signing players. Does anyone know how he is coming along with his injury/fitness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Aidy white, Naismith, Uche, haring, JW ? Worries me about how many games they will actually play and this time next year we will be saying if only all these players weren't injured for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: Yep, but White won't be getting what Walker would expect to be paid. If we get him on loan and pay 25% of his wage, fair enough. Any player is a risk at the rung we shop at and the number one problem with the money ball approach. Jamie walker improves us so I’d take him. Lafferty improves us so I’d take him. I get why people are wary of Walker, I didn’t like the way he positioned himself with Rangers but let’s not pretend we wouldn’t do the same if someone was offering us 15k a week. He had bad advice and has paid the price for it, spent his best years not playing football and is looking to come back to a club he knows and can rebuild his confidence. He will also be able to learn for the likes of Naismith etc so it’s a no brainer for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, jambopilms said: Aidy white, Naismith, Uche, haring, JW ? Worries me about how many games they will actually play and this time next year we will be saying if only all these players weren't injured for so long. This is my worry too. Edited June 23, 2019 by Haringshairband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 I watched the YouTube video of all walkers goals for hearts and I must say if we can’t get this Jamie Walker back he instantly improves our attack the issue is his injuries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Barack said: Any player is a risk, at any level. It's professional sport. It happens. Gareth Bale. Alexis Sanchez. Kieran Tierney. Because a player plays at a level below EPL, or Championship, doesn't mean he's 50% more likely to get injured than someone playing at a higher level. If anything, people playing 50-60 games a year like the top team's players, are at more disadvantages due to the increased stresses put on their bodies. Yeah I don’t disagree. My point wasn’t solely on injuries tho. At our level and approach ie the moneyball/broken player, is always risky. Look at Martin, Sammon, Watt and Vanecek etc. It comes with the territory was more my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, busby1985 said: Yeah I don’t disagree. My point wasn’t solely on injuries tho. At our level and approach ie the moneyball/broken player, is always risky. Look at Martin, Sammon, Watt and Vanecek etc. It comes with the territory was more my point. We took a lot of risks to accelerate our squad building the last few years after admin. We'll be taking many fewer or at least lower risks from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: I watched the YouTube video of all walkers goals for hearts and I must say if we can’t get this Jamie Walker back he instantly improves our attack the issue is his injuries... Precisely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 If Walker is signed his wages should be based on appearances. He shouldn't be getting anything like the offer he knocked back before he left. He is very much on trial imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 21 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: We took a lot of risks to accelerate our squad building the last few years after admin. We'll be taking many fewer or at least lower risks from now on. Good to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D. Corners Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, luckydug said: If Walker is signed his wages should be based on appearances. He shouldn't be getting anything like the offer he knocked back before he left. He is very much on trial imo. For sure. I assume his last deal was biased on his potential to get a large transfers fee. I don’t see that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Leveins Battalion said: I am not sure what to make of this transfer window,in a way I am glad we are not jumping in signing journeymen but part of me thinks that this is Leveins what 4th window? since becoming manager and surely ground work is done on targets and his mind is clear on what he wants and where we are going,hopefully we see movement in the next week to get players ready to go at the start of the season,fed up with being a rehabilitation club. It has been different to a number of windows in the recent past, in as much as excluding Halkett, who was effectively tie up before the season finished there have been no other arrivals yet. It could raise questions along the lines of are we giving more consideration to who we want, are we speaking to players but not convincing them, etc. etc. I read a link on a Hearts SC Facebook page saying that we are targeting 3 strikers still to come in. I do think a bit more depth in the squad would help but would also hope the people we are looking at are players who are better than we have in the positions we are looking to fill, so we can only really wait and see how it unfolds (it ain't long now until the competitive season starts again and HMFC won't be the only club looking to recruit, in fact there hasn't really been an awful lot of incoming business involving Scottish clubs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC86 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 49 minutes ago, Dandyman79 said: Does anyone know how he is coming along with his injury/fitness? Been doing running and training himself, fully ready to start pre-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, portobellojambo1 said: It has been different to a number of windows in the recent past, in as much as excluding Halkett, who was effectively tie up before the season finished there have been no other arrivals yet. It could raise questions along the lines of are we giving more consideration to who we want, are we speaking to players but not convincing them, etc. etc. I read a link on a Hearts SC Facebook page saying that we are targeting 3 strikers still to come in. I do think a bit more depth in the squad would help but would also hope the people we are looking at are players who are better than we have in the positions we are looking to fill, so we can only really wait and see how it unfolds (it ain't long now until the competitive season starts again and HMFC won't be the only club looking to recruit, in fact there hasn't really been an awful lot of incoming business involving Scottish clubs). Aside from Aberdeen no-one's been making many signings so far so I don't know what the panic is. Ourselves, Rangers, Celtic and Hibs all seem to have got one or two in so far with a few released or sold or ending contracts as well. Hibs have the biggest rebuilding job to do and have two very underwhelming signings so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Barack said: Apparently they've got £250k laying around, and want to spend that on a Forest Green striker. We're all shopping at the same supermarket. The bit with the 2 day old bread for cheap Effectively Naismith and Halkett should be our first two signings. Happy with that level so far! Edited June 23, 2019 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Sir Gio said: Jason Holt available anyone I was surprised we loaned the lad out to SU then when his contract ended Rangers snapped him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, mitch41 said: I was surprised we loaned the lad out to SU then when his contract ended Rangers snapped him up. Holt rejected a contract offer with us, went to try his luck in England then we got a fee from Rangers for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Absolute Scenes said: I watched the YouTube video of all walkers goals for hearts and I must say if we can’t get this Jamie Walker back he instantly improves our attack the issue is his injuries... Had a cyst removed from knee. Not troubling him now which was his ongoing problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Does anyone know where Walker is at present? If he is in Edinburgh that might suggest something. If Hearts are interested, I'm sure they will be able to assess his general attitude. I hope he's bursting to play football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: Does anyone know where Walker is at present? If he is in Edinburgh that might suggest something. If Hearts are interested, I'm sure they will be able to assess his general attitude. I hope he's bursting to play football. Was near Eskmills within last day or so - no idea if there’s a car park there tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Lovecraft said: Walker has literally not played football in 2019. He is coming back from yet more surgery, and most probably will not play in 2019 at all. A wee pal for Aidy White then .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: Does anyone know where Walker is at present? If he is in Edinburgh that might suggest something. If Hearts are interested, I'm sure they will be able to assess his general attitude. I hope he's bursting to play football. Instagram had him at Ian Black’s house yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: Does anyone know where Walker is at present? If he is in Edinburgh that might suggest something. If Hearts are interested, I'm sure they will be able to assess his general attitude. I hope he's bursting to play football. His instagram story last night was a video panning around someones garden and a comment on the weather with a sun and Scotland flag emoji. He had tagged Ianblack.6 so presumably was at his house. Or maybe he's down south and playing along lol. He def reads kickback though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyhmfc Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Approaching 70 pages. Still think there are days ahead of very little happening...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Barack said: Hiya, Jamie! If you're reading this, & you're coming back...get your finger out. You lazy, work-shy ****er. ?? Welcome back. Maybe. xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I’ll be delighted if he comes back. Time to knuckle down though and see this as a big chance to put his career back on track. There’s not been many players in the past wee while that have got us off our seats but on his day he was one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Too late for Holt. QPR in Warburtons mission for League 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, portobellojambo1 said: It has been different to a number of windows in the recent past, in as much as excluding Halkett, who was effectively tie up before the season finished there have been no other arrivals yet. It could raise questions along the lines of are we giving more consideration to who we want, are we speaking to players but not convincing them, etc. etc. I read a link on a Hearts SC Facebook page saying that we are targeting 3 strikers still to come in. I do think a bit more depth in the squad would help but would also hope the people we are looking at are players who are better than we have in the positions we are looking to fill, so we can only really wait and see how it unfolds (it ain't long now until the competitive season starts again and HMFC won't be the only club looking to recruit, in fact there hasn't really been an awful lot of incoming business involving Scottish clubs). I'm not sure that was what CL said or meant. I think he said he was after 3 attacking players which could have included 1 or even 2 attacking MFs. My guess would be 2 strikers and 1 attacking MF but that may change depending on what happens with Djoum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Mort said: Jamie Walker improves our current squad. Therefore I would take him. He improves our current squad if he's fit and up for it. If he isn't both of those things, he doesn't! 4 hours ago, daveyhmfc said: All depends on what walker we get. That is the critical question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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