Bob Loblaw Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 I also think it's done and will be used as a good news story, either in the build up to the final or after to boost season ticket sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Bob Loblaw said: I also think it's done and will be used as a good news story, either in the build up to the final or after to boost season ticket sales. Need to be a better story than that to boost ticket sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80bob Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, Special Agent Dale Cooper said: Ach I suspect they'll just be waiting until after the cup final when the new managerial dream team is announced (including Naismith as player/coach).* *This is pure conjecture. Might not be to far away from the truth based on what I was told few days ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds66 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Need to be a better story than that to boost ticket sales. I agree, the signing of Naismith will not dramatically increase season ticket sales, in my opinion. Levein doing the honourable thing and walking away from Tynecastle or being sacked will improve the mood amongst supporters however, only if he is replaced by someone the fans will accept and capable of taking the club forward. Replacing Levein with Daly or MacPhee will only alienate the support further. It is clear that the whole football side of the business needs major surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Need to be a better story than that to boost ticket sales. What are the ticket sales numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Need to be a better story than that to boost ticket sales. There’s only one story that would boost ticket sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 09/05/2019 at 18:24, OTT said: Its basic planning. Levein has managed for how long? He knows the style of football he plays requires a target man. What did our strike force look like? Uche (Target Man), Maclean (Not a target man), Wighton (Not a target man), Naismith (Not a target man). I absolutely refuse to accept that this is an excusable mistake. He chanced our season on Uche not getting injured and it backfired spectacularly. Absolutely.I remember the statement he said when confirming Vanacek signing."We are getting a proper centre forward" aye right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, ford donald said: Absolutely.I remember the statement he said when confirming Vanacek signing."We are getting a proper centre forward" aye right! "I'm very pleased that David has agreed to join the club," Levein said. "He's different from the other strikers we currently have and I'm looking forward to working with him. "He's a target man and is very good in the air. His hold-up play is impressive as well and he'll be a great addition to the squad. it's went well, eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: "I'm very pleased that David has agreed to join the club," Levein said. "He's different from the other strikers we currently have and I'm looking forward to working with him. "He's a target man and is very good in the air. His hold-up play is impressive as well and he'll be a great addition to the squad. it's went well, eh! So we've gone from Naismith to ticket sales to Vanecek on the same thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 7 hours ago, suds66 said: I agree, the signing of Naismith will not dramatically increase season ticket sales, in my opinion. Levein doing the honourable thing and walking away from Tynecastle or being sacked will improve the mood amongst supporters however, only if he is replaced by someone the fans will accept and capable of taking the club forward. Replacing Levein with Daly or MacPhee will only alienate the support further. It is clear that the whole football side of the business needs major surgery. Sacking a club legend may improve your morale but I suspect you don't speak for everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, tcjambo said: Sacking a club legend may improve your morale but I suspect you don't speak for everybody. He speaks for an ever increasing number and if he is still there next season Tynecastle will be half full for most games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, rick witter said: He speaks for an ever increasing number and if he is still there next season Tynecastle will be half full for most games. I imagine that would depend on results, to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GYL Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 09/05/2019 at 08:53, We_are_the_Hearts said: SO is he signing and will he be fit? This let's try keep on topic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, tcjambo said: Sacking a club legend may improve your morale but I suspect you don't speak for everybody. Serious question: what difference does being a club legend make? That's in the past. He absolutely does not deserve any special treatment because of his starus as a player. He has underperformed and is preventing the club moving forward - he will be judged as a manager and moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 If we do get Naismith I hope we can protect him a bit better than this season to get the most out of his time with us. Be nice to not be so reliant on an older player. I'd also keep berra as captain as Naisy doesnt need an armband to bark the orders!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Serious question: what difference does being a club legend make? That's in the past. He absolutely does not deserve any special treatment because of his starus as a player. He has underperformed and is preventing the club moving forward - he will be judged as a manager and moved on. All this is superfluous criticism just now. He is going nowhere at present. Only two games left this season. One a cup final. Can we not stop all of this bickering until after that particular game is done and dusted. We still have a chance of silverware so let’s get behind the team and try and create a bit of positivity. I’m sure this place will be red hot after the final one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, tcjambo said: Sacking a club legend may improve your morale but I suspect you don't speak for everybody. Legend ??? Give me a break. His sacking will be appreciated by a lot more than you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hercules said: Legend ??? Give me a break. His sacking will be appreciated by a lot more than you think. You can think what you want about his performance as a manager this season but Levein being a Hearts legend isn't even up for debate. Nonsense to suggest otherwise. Edited May 12, 2019 by hmfc_liam06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Deevers said: All this is superfluous criticism just now. He is going nowhere at present. Only two games left this season. One a cup final. Can we not stop all of this bickering until after that particular game is done and dusted. We still have a chance of silverware so let’s get behind the team and try and create a bit of positivity. I’m sure this place will be red hot after the final one way or another. Totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) On 08/05/2019 at 12:36, Sir Gio said: He is, he's a cut above nearly every player in the SPFL let alone our own team. So it was obviously a massive blow. Just such a disappointment nobody rose to the challenge of at least compensating in part for his absence. Think folk forget we just never lost Naismith. We lost Berra Souttar Uche Along with Naismith at the same time. Dunne, Dikamona, Mitchell and Smith at points as well. We then lost a bit confidence. Some players were asked to step up maybe two quickly after their own rehabilitation. Confidence further went , form went. We never recovered. I think Naismith injured in his own is a bit harsh, if it was just him we wouldn't have collapsed so spectacularly imo. We do Need to address the loss of him tho and have a better solution. Edited May 12, 2019 by Olly Lee's left boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Think folk forget we just never lost Naismith. We lost Berra Souttar Uche Along with Naismith at the same time. Dunne, Dikamona, Mitchell and Smith at points as well. We then lost a bit confidence. Some players were asked to step up maybe two quickly after their own rehabilitation. Confidence further went , form went. We never recovered. I think Naismith injured in his own is a bit harsh, if it was just him we wouldn't have collapsed so spectacularly imo. We do Need to address the loss of him tho and have a better solution. We also lost Haring who even when he was in the team played with a hernia. You're right about rehabilitation too. It took the skipper a while to get back to anywhere near his pre-injury form and the same goes for Uche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JamboAl said: We also lost Haring who even when he was in the team played with a hernia. You're right about rehabilitation too. It took the skipper a while to get back to anywhere near his pre-injury form and the same goes for Uche. Clare and Wighton as well. Folk expected guys like Uche to come in and get back up to form, fitness and confidence straight away. Clare should have been coming of the bench now and then as well. Not our main link from mid to att. We haven't coped well, but the injuries are a complete shit show. Even now Godinho Ben Morrison Harring Naismith Kenna Really restricts us in what we can offer even from the bench. Ridiculous. Edited May 12, 2019 by Olly Lee's left boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: You can think what you want about his performance as a manager this season but Levein being a Hearts legend isn't even up for debate. Nonsense to suggest otherwise. A Hearts legend ? You’re deliberately at it ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Hercules said: A Hearts legend ? You’re deliberately at it ?? Best defender I have witnessed in a Maroon jersey in 40 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hercules said: A Hearts legend ? You’re deliberately at it ?? Right you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hercules said: A Hearts legend ? You’re deliberately at it ?? I don't it matters in context. It's a thread about Naismith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) He is right, without a doubt. Levein would have played at the very very top were it not for injury, hard, read the game incredibly well, pace, intelligence, passing. He had it all. Edited May 12, 2019 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhalljambo15 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: He is right, without a doubt. Levein would have played at the very very top were it not for injury, hard, read the game incredibly well, pace, intelligence, passing. He had it all. Doesn’t change the fact he’s a shite manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 35 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: Best defender I have witnessed in a Maroon jersey in 40 years Make that 60! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, dhalljambo15 said: Doesn’t change the fact he’s a shite manager not in his first spell but it’s gone wrong now and he should move on. people lose credibility when they try and erase history however. He still deserves respect for the years of service as an incredible player for the club and when he was an effective manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhalljambo15 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just now, kingantti1874 said: not in his first spell but it’s gone wrong now and he should move on. people lose credibility when they try and erase history however. He still deserves respect for the years of service as an incredible player for the club and when he was an effective manager Had good times in first spell mainly in Europe (Bordeaux, braga) still played same football as he tries now. Let’s not forget him ‘falling ill’ on biggest match in 86 . Great player yes I agree but not as big a hearts man in my opinion as people want to believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 So, has anyone heard when he might sign a contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, dhalljambo15 said: Had good times in first spell mainly in Europe (Bordeaux, braga) still played same football as he tries now. Let’s not forget him ‘falling ill’ on biggest match in 86 . Great player yes I agree but not as big a hearts man in my opinion as people want to believe Dreary me. Thought this thread was about Naismith. It seems to have been hijacked by folk wanting to have a go at CL. There’s a huge thread that the folk wanting to bump their gums about him can access. Back on track - anyone got any idea about Naismiths fitness level or if and when he might get round to putting pen to paper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Tall Sally Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, PTBCAL said: Best defender I have witnessed in a Maroon jersey in 40 years In my top 3 of best players I’ve seen at the club. People pouring scorn on his ability/status never seen him imo. A wonderful football player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Tall Sally Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, dhalljambo15 said: Had good times in first spell mainly in Europe (Bordeaux, braga) still played same football as he tries now. Let’s not forget him ‘falling ill’ on biggest match in 86 . Great player yes I agree but not as big a hearts man in my opinion as people want to believe Hibs or ignorant I care little. ’falling ill’ Just do one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, rick witter said: He speaks for an ever increasing number and if he is still there next season Tynecastle will be half full for most games. Oh I really hope we win this cup. Boy are you never going to hear the end of it!! Edited May 12, 2019 by tcjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Levein the player could have played for anyone at the time. Injuries really did stop him from being a superstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTS1874 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, PTBCAL said: Best defender I have witnessed in a Maroon jersey in 40 years And my lifetime supporting the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 50 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Levein the player could have played for anyone at the time. Injuries really did stop him from being a superstar Of course he was he was exceptional! How does it make him a legend though? How does hes legendary status compare with say Gary Locke or Steven Pressley? Well off topic I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, MTS1874 said: And my lifetime supporting the club Could split Levein and McLaren with a fag paper imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Could split Levein and McLaren with a fag paper imo. McLaren couldn't lace Craig levein boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Could split Levein and McLaren with a fag paper imo. Just confirmed you know very little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Of course he was he was exceptional! How does it make him a legend though? How does hes legendary status compare with say Gary Locke or Steven Pressley? Well off topic I know. Did CL knock you back or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Just confirmed you know very little. Min your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just now, Olly Lee's left boot said: Did CL knock you back or something? Eh? He was a fantastic footballer cut before his prime which was shocking luck. McLaren was on par though and I loved them both. He was a brilliant manager first time round also fire fighting like mad. I’m not sure if he’s a legend though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: McLaren couldn't lace Craig levein boots Loved them both, McLaren was a fantastic defender done by injury too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Loved them both, McLaren was a fantastic defender done by injury too. McLaren was fantastic defender but not in same league as levein ! Levein was the complete central defender , good in the air , hard as nails in the tackle , had pace to burn , 2 footed and was so composed on the ball ! He had the vision of a midfield playmaker Edited May 12, 2019 by Selkirkhmfc1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 So is he playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgieshed Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, jr ewing said: So is he playing? How dare u get back on topic... Doesn't look like it. Anyone ITK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Of course he was he was exceptional! How does it make him a legend though? How does hes legendary status compare with say Gary Locke or Steven Pressley? Well off topic I know. Get Pressley in the bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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