Cruyff Turn Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: He was doing okay until his shitemare for their 2nd . His head went after that. Every pass he hit was to a Dundee player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allystrachan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Terrible player management from Levein. He’s been with the club a couple week now & if fitness was the problem he shouldn’t have started him. Then to come out & slate him publicly isn’t really going to help matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Cruyff Turn said: Every pass he hit was to a Dundee player. It wasn't but if that's the marker then Berra needs dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, jambopilms said: If levein is pissed at him then he will have trouble coming back in. turning up un fit is as unprofessional as it comes. It will not go down well. I believe that the last competitive football match that David Vanecek played was in November 2018. Assuming it was at the end of November that means he hasn't played for around two months, which is about as long as the close season lasts here, and our players tend to come back from that break needing a good, hard pre season to get back up to speed.. Is it really any surprise that he didn't turn up in a shape which suggested he had just had a storming pre season and was ready to go. Edited January 23, 2019 by portobellojambo1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, allystrachan said: Terrible player management from Levein. He’s been with the club a couple week now & if fitness was the problem he shouldn’t have started him. Then to come out & slate him publicly isn’t really going to help matters. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I think we were maybe expecting an athlete given the shape of our Czech players in the past. He does look more the lumbering sort a bit like Sutton but those type of players can be successful but they need accurate service which we are struggling to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Weir Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) Levein said he's annoyed at the physical state he's turned up in That's basically scandalous for a 27 year old. He's wearing the biggest pair of shorts I've seen in my ****ing life Pathetic Edited January 23, 2019 by Jim Weir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, Thought Police said: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/craig-levein-took-david-vanecek-15724055 To say it like that tells you he is pissed at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, portobellojambo1 said: I believe that the last competitive football match that David Vanecek played was in November 2018. Assuming it was at the end of November that means he hasn't played for around two months, which is about as long as the close season lasts here, and our players tend to come back from that needing a good, hard pre season to get back up to speed.. Is it really any surprise that he didn't turn up in a shape which suggested he had just had a storming pre season and was ready to go. It’s not a surprise. What is surprising is Levein picking him twice, then deciding to slate him on the radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Another Juanma... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Jim Weir said: Levein said he's annoyed at the physical state he's turned up in That's basically scandalous for a 27 year old. He's wearing the biggest pair of shorts I've seen in my ****ing life Pathetic So why has Levein started him if he is totally out of shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 As I said previously, the boy can only fail. Here he is failing after playing some minutes. Built up far too much on here. We have no idea how good or how bad he is and we certainly haven't seen enough to judge him yet. But judged he will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, portobellojambo1 said: I believe that the last competitive football match that David Vanecek played was in November 2018. Assuming it was at the end of November that means he hasn't played for around two months, which is about as long as the close season lasts here, and our players tend to come back from that break needing a good, hard pre season to get back up to speed.. Is it really any surprise that he didn't turn up in a shape which suggested he had just had a storming pre season and was ready to go. Very surprising. He is a pro footballer joining a new club. I’d expect him to have overdone the prep if anything. Ten days in Bangkok will take a couple of months to work off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, AndyNic said: Another Juanma... Juanma scored goals though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, Lambo85 said: Juanma scored goals though Another Juanma... except without the goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, Sooperstar said: As I said previously, the boy can only fail. Here he is failing after playing some minutes. Built up far too much on here. We have no idea how good or how bad he is and we certainly haven't seen enough to judge him yet. But judged he will be. Judged by Levein after 120mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Need the managerial genius Foxy to tell him to get fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gambo said: Correct. To be fair he was ok on Sunday. Levering probably thought he would step up a level tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, AndyNic said: Another Juanma... Juanma would have been good if he wasn’t a lazy arsehole. Had a better goals ratio than Lafferty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, AndyNic said: Another Juanma... If only! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Reminds me of that polish horse we signed arkadius klimek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: People calling him a fraud after barely two games are just beyond parody. It’s so typical of our current crop of shite fans. The same people who no doubt wanked over him and proclaimed him to be the next big thing. This in spades. Its Hearts, not Real Madrid signing a £50m superstar. Let the boy settle in ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: As I said previously, the boy can only fail. Here he is failing after playing some minutes. Built up far too much on here. We have no idea how good or how bad he is and we certainly haven't seen enough to judge him yet. But judged he will be. And judged he was, in rather damning fashion in the radio, by his new manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGoodLaugh Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 54 minutes ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: People calling him a fraud after barely two games are just beyond parody. It’s so typical of our current crop of shite fans. The same people who no doubt wanked over him and proclaimed him to be the next big thing. I mean, I agree - absolutely don't write him off. But if even the manager thought he needed hooked after half an hour in his first league game then that's pretty worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Someone told me he was in Thailand with his mates prior to joining us for training. Surely not? That's the kind of behaviour that would seriously piss off Levein. Especially if he's not in that good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Surely they are able to assess his fitness in training? The exact same thing happened with Danny Amankwaa last year, signed, immediately started games then they decided he wasn't fit enough. Baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Weir Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lambo85 said: So why has Levein started him if he is totally out of shape? I don't get a lot of things he does Stevie Clarke has him a distant object in his rear view mirror and has done for well over a year now We're going nowhere. £20M+ on a stand and we sit behind St Johnstone after 22 games ****ing rancid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBOOOA BLAIR Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Seems the guy has bummed up himself like oshamwai . Levein knew he was unfit. He knows Clare arrived unfit too. My only consolation is the forwards get no quality supply. One f...winger. Young laddie. We need experience. . We are so easy to read and one paced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, chester copperpot said: Someone told me he was in Thailand with his mates prior to joining us for training. Surely not? That's the kind of behaviour that would seriously piss off Levein. Especially if he's not in that good shape. Someone who follows him on Instagram, I’m guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, Peebo said: Someone who follows him on Instagram, I’m guessing. Yeah think so. Never really on it but heard he quite likes an Instagram and Facebook post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Did levein ever actually see him play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, chester copperpot said: Someone told me he was in Thailand with his mates prior to joining us for training. Surely not? That's the kind of behaviour that would seriously piss off Levein. Especially if he's not in that good shape. He does look like he likes a party tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Martin_T said: Surely they are able to assess his fitness in training? The exact same thing happened with Danny Amankwaa last year, signed, immediately started games then they decided he wasn't fit enough. Baffling. It’s incredible. And must be pretty galling for others at the club to see apparently unfit signings like this to immediately get a place in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambomjm74 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 The holiday in Thailand to get fat and slow.. billy big baws on his new big contract. Wasn’t that what Sutton did before he joined us, got his big contract and turned up about a stone or two overweight. What a great first impression ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, OBOOOA BLAIR said: Seems the guy has bummed up himself like oshamwai . Levein knew he was unfit. He knows Clare arrived unfit too. My only consolation is the forwards get no quality supply. One f...winger. Young laddie. We need experience. . We are so easy to read and one paced The guy? Rather moronic hearts fans who continue to do this with player after player and wonder why their expections each season get shat on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Koolkeith said: Assuming it was because he was on s yellow and Beaton might have sent him off the way things were going. that's how I saw it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Sorry, not having this from Levein. If Vanecek isn't fit enough you are entitled to be annoyed, but he played on Sunday and has trained with us for two weeks. You don't then suddenly decide after 30 minutes he's not fit enough. He's chucking him under the bus to detract from his own mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 We would be better with zeefuik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, jambomjm74 said: The holiday in Thailand to get fat and slow.. billy big baws on his new big contract. Wasn’t that what Sutton did before he joined us, got his big contract and turned up about a stone or two overweight. What a great first impression ! Yeah it’s poor from him. I followed Uche on Instagram and all he did all summer was post videos of him working his ****in baws off in the gym to come in at peak fitness. Not pissin about on motorbikes in Thailand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, chester copperpot said: Someone told me he was in Thailand with his mates prior to joining us for training. Surely not? That's the kind of behaviour that would seriously piss off Levein. Especially if he's not in that good shape. If Vanacek taking a holiday while still a Teplice player on his ‘winter break’ seriously pisses off Levein, then Craig needs to get a grip. If Vanacek(like Amankwaa) is as ‘unfit’ as he claims then either Levein is ****ing blind in training or whatever coach he has running training if he’s not there is incompetent and not passing on the message. Edited January 23, 2019 by Ibrahim Tall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyboy Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 The guy can barely move ..he made one run and was hanging on to his knees ..If he could see them, those are the biggest shorts I've ever seen. Way short of where he needs to be .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said: Sorry, not having this from Levein. If Vanecek isn't fit enough you are entitled to be annoyed, but he played on Sunday and has trained with us for two weeks. You don't then suddenly decide after 30 minutes he's not fit enough. He's chucking him under the bus to detract from his own mistakes. Yup. No refereeing mistakes to talk about, or any other smart arse remarks in the tank. Instead, slates a guy for arriving at the club out of shape despite starting him twice. Incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, Serge Pizzorno said: Levein’s just said to BBC he’s not happy about the fitness and shape that David’s arrived in... Amankwaa mk II. Sign, play some minutes and then disappear for a couple of months to get fit. Our recruitment is ****ing woeful, and John Murray is to blame for the majority of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I am actually cringing at this. Been waiting on this guy arriving for months and when he does, our manager has publicly slated him after 120mis of football. “He’s wasnt at the races!” Deary me!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, Peebo said: Yup. No refereeing mistakes to talk about, or any other smart arse remarks in the tank. Instead, slates a guy for arriving at the club out of shape despite starting him twice. Incredible. You'd think people would see through it, yet this whole thread is full of people agreeing and blaming Vanecek and branding him "Amankwaa mkII". How come guys like Wighton and Clare, who I like btw, get leniency and pleas to give them time to get fit, yet Vanecek is some sort of mess despite Levein twice choosing to start him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Peebo said: Yup. No refereeing mistakes to talk about, or any other smart arse remarks in the tank. Instead, slates a guy for arriving at the club out of shape despite starting him twice. Incredible. I'm actually completely incredulous about this. Quite apart from anything else, we've been playing Sean Clare for months now, allegedly whilst waiting for him to get fit. What do they do in training? They must surely be able to guage the players fitness before starting them in games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said: Sorry, not having this from Levein. If Vanecek isn't fit enough you are entitled to be annoyed, but he played on Sunday and has trained with us for two weeks. You don't then suddenly decide after 30 minutes he's not fit enough. He's chucking him under the bus to detract from his own mistakes. Correct. It's the usual defection technique from Levein. "The injuries" The referee" "Players not fit" He never takes any accountability, really poor management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I was hearing tonight in hospitality that he doesn’t speak a word of English and his fitness is obviously poor This guy has known since July last year he was signing for Hearts in January, the very least he could have done was be at the peak of fitness and have a decent grasp of English.... very poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Why the hell is he starting if he's not fit? Bad management tbh. Hung out to dry tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Weird one. Liked the looked of him v livi , bit of swagger and some good touches Thought he looked to get the ball down and play, he was coming quite deep for a few one-twos. Wasn't really in the game but he was no worse than his replacement. He's been playing and scoring for teplice til recently he can't be THAT unfit. And a hobbling keena was left on, he was quite obviously struggling to run full pelt at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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