davie1980 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said: He is our best striker since Robbo. I'm going to assume you are basing that purely on scoring statistics? Do you think he is better than Jankauskas, Bednar, Fuller and De Vreis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 hours ago, JamboAl said: He did say DM was on his target list which isn't the same as saying we're going to get him - unless CL confided that in you. I also read somewhere that after signing Doyle CL said he was now finished with signings so it would be wise for me to wait and see. Who said we were going to get him. Your imagination? Because Levein didn't. And nor did I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, davie1980 said: I'm going to assume you are basing that purely on scoring statistics? Do you think he is better than Jankauskas, Bednar, Fuller and De Vreis Add Andrius Velicka to that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanjo15 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Add Andrius Velicka to that list. Nowhere near as good as Lafferty. Janny and Bednar where better though. As was MDV. Fuller was here about 5 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisco1914 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Add Andrius Velicka to that list. And Maurice Johnstone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSK Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Lafferty is hard to judge. He’s everything we’ve been waiting for in a striker: i.e. he scores goals, he gets people on their feet, he’s the type of player everyone else will hate and therefore it’s an easy pathway to cult hero status. Is he he better than Jankauskas/ Bednar? Perhaps not. But I’m certain he is more important to this Hearts team than they were to the 05/06 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just now, Juanjo15 said: Nowhere near as good as Lafferty. Janny and Bednar where better though. As was MDV. Fuller was here about 5 mins. Scoring wise he was though. Velicka - 11 goals, 3 assists in 20 games league games 07/08 Lafferty - 10 goals, 0 assists in 30 league games 17/18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, RDSK said: Lafferty is hard to judge. He’s everything we’ve been waiting for in a striker: i.e. he scores goals, he gets people on their feet, he’s the type of player everyone else will hate and therefore it’s an easy pathway to cult hero status. Is he he better than Jankauskas/ Bednar? Perhaps not. But I’m certain he is more important to this Hearts team than they were to the 05/06 team. He's certainly not better than Jankauskas, though he may make a bigger contribution to our team. He brings goals AND excitement - that's what we all want to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 We should try and get the lad Chong from Utd.....he looks a real star in the making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, DH1986 said: We should try and get the lad Chong from Utd.....he looks a real star in the making. Sounds good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Sir Gio said: Who said we were going to get him. Your imagination? Because Levein didn't. And nor did I. Don't know what you're trying to prove but you can have the argument to yourself mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said: Scoring wise he was though. Velicka - 11 goals, 3 assists in 20 games league games 07/08 Lafferty - 10 goals, 0 assists in 30 league games 17/18 Didn't Lafferty score 12 league goals? It was 19 in all competitions.* Edit: * Velicka got 14 in 07/08 Edited July 21, 2018 by Hackney Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hackney Hearts said: Didn't Lafferty score 12 league goals? It was 19 in all competitions.* Edit: * Velicka got 14 in 07/08 I beg your pardon, yes you are correct, he did, my mistake. He scored 19 in 41, 12 in the league, 4 in LC group stages and 3 in the Scottish Cup. Still, he's not the best striker or in general (as a goalscorer) we've had since Robbo in terms of either ability, or goals to games ratio, and none of the others mentioned had the luxury of 4 LC group games v lower league opposition. Rudi (16 in 2005/06, 13 in 2010/11, 12 in 2011/12)and Hartley (14 in 2005/06) scored more from midfield in the league than anyone mentioned since Robbo and Colin Cameron also scored 12 in a league campaign (2001/02).) Mark de Vries has the best league total since Robbo scoring 15 in 2002/03. I don't want this to come across as an anti Lafferty post because he's great for us and I think he'd have scored more in the league had we had the midfielders and wide players we have this season, plus Naisy (for longer). Had he not been in the team, in all reality we'd have finished way down in the bottom 6. Edited July 21, 2018 by Cruyff Turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 15 hours ago, JamboAl said: Don't know what you're trying to prove but you can have the argument to yourself mate. You seem to enjoy changing posters words to suit your argument. Like I say your opinions are not as relevant as the manager who I quoted. That's all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: You seem to enjoy changing posters words to suit your argument. Like I say your opinions are not as relevant as the manager who I quoted. That's all Very good. Have it your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chong Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 17 hours ago, DH1986 said: We should try and get the lad Chong from Utd.....he looks a real star in the making. excellent idea £420m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I hope we can get him back what a difference he’d make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Jambo Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Dannie Boy said: I hope we can get him back what a difference he’d make Was thinking that today - he’d have had a field day. Instead we had Mulraney punting it out the park time after time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 On 20/07/2018 at 23:24, DH1986 said: We should try and get the lad Chong from Utd.....he looks a real star in the making. Fellaini and Gullit’s love child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 On 20/07/2018 at 23:16, scott herbertson said: He's certainly not better than Jankauskas, though he may make a bigger contribution to our team. He brings goals AND excitement - that's what we all want to see Based solely on time at Hearts I'd say Lafferty was/is without doubt better. Based on their full careers Jankauskas was better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, RS86 said: Based solely on time at Hearts I'd say Lafferty was/is without doubt better. Based on their full careers Jankauskas was better Really??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 7 hours ago, davemclaren said: Really??? Yep. Never thought much of Jankauskas and when you look at the team he had around him too compared to Lafferty. Back on topic we really could have done with Mitchell yesterday, Mulraney didn't look sure of himself at all at times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never Let Them Forget Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, RS86 said: Yep. Never thought much of Jankauskas and when you look at the team he had around him too compared to Lafferty. Back on topic we really could have done with Mitchell yesterday, Mulraney didn't look sure of himself at all at times Jankauskas had the most ability than anyone during the Romanov years, although second season age caught up with him (Fyssas also). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 39 minutes ago, Never Let Them Forget said: Jankauskas had the most ability than anyone during the Romanov years, although second season age caught up with him (Fyssas also). My recollection of him was that he wasn't particularly great. Maybe I just had heightened expectations of a CL winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart500 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 On 7/20/2018 at 23:24, DH1986 said: We should try and get the lad Chong from Utd.....he looks a real star in the making. Unfortunately it looks like we've signed Dung instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 2 hours ago, RS86 said: Yep. Never thought much of Jankauskas and when you look at the team he had around him too compared to Lafferty. Back on topic we really could have done with Mitchell yesterday, Mulraney didn't look sure of himself at all at times I agree re Mitchell...and Mulraney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 11 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: Fellaini and Gullit’s love child He's also an incredible player.. there is little possibility of this guy going on loan.. and if he does.. it'll be to a big big club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 53 minutes ago, RS86 said: My recollection of him was that he wasn't particularly great. Maybe I just had heightened expectations of a CL winner Eh. Fyssas best left back we've ever had period.. and everything janny did was absolute class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Eh. Fyssas best left back we've ever had period.. and everything janny did was absolute class Fyssas was then and is still my favourite Hearts player I've seen. So calm and collected it was unreal. Jankauskas was excellent 70% of the time and you could see he was a step above. However there were a few times I felt he looked disinterested, which was fair enough when you consider the standard of Scottish football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Never Let Them Forget said: Jankauskas had the most ability than anyone during the Romanov years, although second season age caught up with him (Fyssas also). Romanov being a ***** caught up with them you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, davemclaren said: I agree re Mitchell...and Mulraney. Possibly will take time for the lad to adjust as it will be new to him tracking back and doing more defensive work (as he alluded to in his recent interview) but he needs to do better than that with the chances he get or Garuccio will be keeping him benched (wouldn't object if Ben can do a better job though of course). 7 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: Eh. Fyssas best left back we've ever had period.. and everything janny did was absolute class See, again that's something to factor in. Janny had supply from Takis, Skacel, Hartley and had Bednar to play off which Lafferty doesn't have anything close to. You're right though, Fyssas was immense Edited July 22, 2018 by RS86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Demi back on the left flank please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Never Let Them Forget said: Jankauskas had the most ability than anyone during the Romanov years, although second season age caught up with him (Fyssas also). Fyssas, Skacel and Hartley for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 7 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: He's also an incredible player.. there is little possibility of this guy going on loan.. and if he does.. it'll be to a big big club Chong will break through this season. He's really impressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb1874 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ali Lawrie said: Demi back on the left flank please It’s nae happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 The 4 best loan players we had last season: Mitchell Naismith Adao Milinkovic We needed to resign these guys and augment them with 3 or 4 good, solid, proven signings. Not only did we only manage to bring back 1 of them thus losing 3 of our better players we lost our top class keeper so 4 of our starting 11 down. We then replaced them with players of lesser quality and added poorer quality than we needed with the additional signings. Anyone thinking this season will be any better is delusional. We are a weaker side than last season in numerous positions. It’s laughable how we go about recruiting and building a first 11 never mind a squad with quality depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 7 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: Eh. Fyssas best left back we've ever had period.. and everything janny did was absolute class Fyssas was class first year but his legs had gone second season Was miles off the pace in the CL qualifiers we played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
it_hearts Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Fyssas was quality his whole time at hearts. Not many hearts left backs could come close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, magicTs said: The 4 best loan players we had last season: Mitchell Naismith Adao Milinkovic We needed to resign these guys and augment them with 3 or 4 good, solid, proven signings. Not only did we only manage to bring back 1 of them thus losing 3 of our better players we lost our top class keeper so 4 of our starting 11 down. We then replaced them with players of lesser quality and added poorer quality than we needed with the additional signings. Anyone thinking this season will be any better is delusional. We are a weaker side than last season in numerous positions. It’s laughable how we go about recruiting and building a first 11 never mind a squad with quality depth. The season is upon us and we certainly seem to be weaker than last year. The new players will obviously need time but people on here were alluding to a signing that would excite us, which hasn’t materialised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I find it staggering some don't think we need a player of his quality. Well covered apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb1874 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 http://thepeoplesperson.com/2018/07/20/demetri-mitchell-im-ready-to-make-an-impression-200329/ https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2958736/demi-mitchell-demetri-hearts-man-united-us-tour-transfer-news-contract/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 22/07/2018 at 11:02, Special Agent Dale Cooper said: Fyssas was then and is still my favourite Hearts player I've seen. So calm and collected it was unreal. Jankauskas was excellent 70% of the time and you could see he was a step above. However there were a few times I felt he looked disinterested, which was fair enough when you consider the standard of Scottish football. That moment he scored his only goal for Hearts had me shrieking like a teenage girl at a One Direction* gig. What a moment! *apologies for the already outdated reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vladimir of Romanov Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 20/07/2018 at 22:45, davie1980 said: I'm going to assume you are basing that purely on scoring statistics? Do you think he is better than Jankauskas, Bednar, Fuller and De Vreis How many goals did they score each season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootzilla Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I know that this thread is about Mitchell. But below is the team we had this time last year when we were knocked out this competition, drawing with Dunfermline 2-2. I'm not sure we're weaker now - but I may be delusional. 13 Hamilton 24 McGhee 4 Souttar Substituted for Nowak at 53'minutes 6 Berra 2 Smith 8 Buaben Substituted for Stockton at 60'minutes 15 Cowie 30 Brandon 10 Sutchuin-Djoum Substituted for Martin at 75'minutes 9 Lafferty 77 Esmael Gonçalves Substitutes 3 Smith-Brown 16 Randall 19 Nowak 21 Martin 23 Stockton 25 Currie 31 Noring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalstonjambo Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/22/2018 at 10:04, RS86 said: My recollection of him was that he wasn't particularly great. Maybe I just had heightened expectations of a CL winner Always found this an interesting viewpoint. In my opinion Jankauskas (and fyssas) were absolutely incredible. He started to lose interest, but that first season he was brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Anyone know if he got on last night? Sub, all the rave reviews are for Chong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: How many goals did they score each season? Less than Lafferty did. But that's my point. I don't go purely on scoring statistics to justify who the best striker was. Jankauskas for example, was levels above Lafferty, he may have only scored about 12 goals but he was a better striker than Lafferty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, cb1874 said: http://thepeoplesperson.com/2018/07/20/demetri-mitchell-im-ready-to-make-an-impression-200329/ https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2958736/demi-mitchell-demetri-hearts-man-united-us-tour-transfer-news-contract/ Obviously I'd love to see him back here but that is looking less and less likely. Failing that, I'd love to see him cut it at Man U, to be able to say we played a part in that success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8skacel8 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Sir Gio said: Anyone know if he got on last night? Sub, all the rave reviews are for Chong Came on for Luke Shaw on 75 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanjo15 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sir Gio said: Anyone know if he got on last night? Sub, all the rave reviews are for Chong Played from the start. Edit wrong game, Was a sub last night came on. Edited July 23, 2018 by Juanjo15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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