JamboAl Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, BigAlim said: A description that fits a few of the players I mentioned, just surprised that despite the fact that he's an important player at a decent team it doesn't seem like anyones willing to chuck in any sort of bid How much were you thinking of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, JamboAl said: How much were you thinking of? Wasn't looking for a Rumble or anything, was just an observation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Frank1874 said: Jorginho signs for Chelsea. Kante Could be competition for places. Wonder if he'll want Hamsik, I think he'd do very well in the Premier League Edited July 14, 2018 by rudi must stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: Could be competition for places. Wonder if he'll want Hamsik, I think he'd do very well in the Premier League Hamsik was linked with a few Chinese clubs a few months ago. He has been incredibly loyal to Napoli over the years. Watched him vs Scotland last year and he was a class above everyone, absolutely strolled it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted July 14, 2018 Author Share Posted July 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Gulf Jambo said: He wants to keep faith with Karius. Says he has a lot of trust in him, he has potential to be one of the world's best... Could be his downfall tbh Karius is one of his players and I think Klopp would feel guilty if he booted him out and ruined the guy's career, which is reasonable but risky. He seriously needs to look at punting Mignolet and bringing in a very good reserve keeper though, someone who could take Karius' place straight away if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, tartofmidlothian said: Karius is one of his players and I think Klopp would feel guilty if he booted him out and ruined the guy's career, which is reasonable but risky. He seriously needs to look at punting Mignolet and bringing in a very good reserve keeper though, someone who could take Karius' place straight away if needed. i think he realises that he probably wont get allison and is struggling to find someone better along with what you say about karius being his player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, milky_26 said: i think he realises that he probably wont get allison and is struggling to find someone better along with what you say about karius being his player He should go for Joe Hart. English a plus as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 46 minutes ago, benny said: He should go for Joe Hart. English a plus as well. who is the boy at stoke? butland? maybe him or go for either heaton or pope from burnley. They would imo improve liverpool and give them a chance of challenging for 2nd in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Interesting. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44832975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_jailer Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 29 minutes ago, benny said: Interesting. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44832975 Think he will end up at Real Madrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 20 hours ago, rudi must stay said: Could be competition for places. Wonder if he'll want Hamsik, I think he'd do very well in the Premier League Could be. Got a feeing it will be a major squad build at Chelsea this summer with Kante and Hazard being sold for big money and the likes of Fabregas being moved on. Hope they build the team around Giroud the same way the French have. He could easily be a 30+ a season striker if played regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 30 minutes ago, Frank1874 said: Could be. Got a feeing it will be a major squad build at Chelsea this summer with Kante and Hazard being sold for big money and the likes of Fabregas being moved on. Hope they build the team around Giroud the same way the French have. He could easily be a 30+ a season striker if played regularly. Talksport this morning Giroud offski. New manager been told to use academy players a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, benny said: Talksport this morning Giroud offski. New manager been told to use academy players a lot more. Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, benny said: Talksport this morning Giroud offski. New manager been told to use academy players a lot more. Not Sarri's sort of player anyway. Not enough football about him IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 46 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: Not Sarri's sort of player anyway. Not enough football about him IMO I think Giroud has had a very good world cup,he's good on the ground as well as in the air and works tirestly for the team.i do know What u mean though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Looks like Sammon is off to Motherwell permanently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 The fish is on his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanjo15 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 That's some leap of good faith on Motherwell's part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Juanjo15 said: That's some leap of good faith on Motherwell's part. Sounds like he will be going as back-up. From BBC website: "We believe we need another striker to give us that strength and depth that we possibly didn't have," manager Stephen Robinson said. Given the physicality of Curtis Main, Sammon will be a fairly like-for-like back-up in terms of style. Add Sammon's performances for Partick last year and it could be a sensible addition for Motherwell. Wouldn't be at all surprised if we are paying Sammon off (not to the full value of his contract) as part of this deal, so wages might not be massive for Motherwell. Interesting to note Motherwell have rejected offers for Bowman and Kipre this summer. Add in the offers they turned down for Cadden and they look like they are in a decent place financially which makes a change. With their two cup finals and 7th place finish last season, they must be at least aiming for a top 6 finish this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanjo15 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said: Sounds like he will be going as back-up. From BBC website: "We believe we need another striker to give us that strength and depth that we possibly didn't have," manager Stephen Robinson said. Given the physicality of Curtis Main, Sammon will be a fairly like-for-like back-up in terms of style. Add Sammon's performances for Partick last year and it could be a sensible addition for Motherwell. Wouldn't be at all surprised if we are paying Sammon off (not to the full value of his contract) as part of this deal, so wages might not be massive for Motherwell. Interesting to note Motherwell have rejected offers for Bowman and Kipre this summer. Add in the offers they turned down for Cadden and they look like they are in a decent place financially which makes a change. With their two cup finals and 7th place finish last season, they must be at least aiming for a top 6 finish this year. You would think he would be going to another club and a drop in wages to play football though? Seems strange that he's going as back up. I reckon they will sell Bowman and Cadden this summer. Part of their plan is to promise a future move to a bigger club should the opportunity arise. Edited July 16, 2018 by Juanjo15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Juanjo15 said: You would think he would be going to another club and a drop in wages to play football though? Seems strange that he's going as back up. I reckon they will sell Bowman and Cadden this summer. Part of their plan is to promise a future move to a bigger club should the opportunity arise. I guess he sees a difference between back-up/ rotation and frozen out, which is basically his situation at Hearts. I'm sure as a professional he has a fair degree of confidence in his own abilities so may back himself to become a regular in the Motherwell team, even if he goes as back-up initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 58 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said: Sounds like he will be going as back-up. From BBC website: "We believe we need another striker to give us that strength and depth that we possibly didn't have," manager Stephen Robinson said. Given the physicality of Curtis Main, Sammon will be a fairly like-for-like back-up in terms of style. Add Sammon's performances for Partick last year and it could be a sensible addition for Motherwell. Wouldn't be at all surprised if we are paying Sammon off (not to the full value of his contract) as part of this deal, so wages might not be massive for Motherwell. Interesting to note Motherwell have rejected offers for Bowman and Kipre this summer. Add in the offers they turned down for Cadden and they look like they are in a decent place financially which makes a change. With their two cup finals and 7th place finish last season, they must be at least aiming for a top 6 finish this year. What a handsome front pairing that would be.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM1874 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 23 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said: I guess he sees a difference between back-up/ rotation and frozen out, which is basically his situation at Hearts. I'm sure as a professional he has a fair degree of confidence in his own abilities so may back himself to become a regular in the Motherwell team, even if he goes as back-up initially. Think the fact he went to Killie initially then Partick instead of kicking his heels (Malaury Martin*) shows he is at least an honest and decent professional that wants to play games. *not having a cheap shot, Levein is quoted as saying Martin has had chances to leave on loan last 2 windows but they didn’t happen and of course there’s a degree of personal circumstances (eg Martin May or may not have wanted to uproot when his missus was latter stage of pregnancy - fair enough but not ideal for the club) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 43 minutes ago, Jambo92 said: What a handsome front pairing that would be.. Pretty bald move from Motherwell there ...oh wait...bold, I meant bold... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanjo15 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Good luck to the guy. Fair play taking a pay cut too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Jarman Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 BUG FIZZIKLE MUTHWELL WI SAMMON & MAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Yaaaaaaassssss cheerio Sammon Must be a fair wedge off our books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Dammit..just seen it's only a loan deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 hours ago, heartsfc_fan said: Dammit..just seen it's only a loan deal Still it pays most of his wages till his contract expires. Better for club and player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, chester copperpot said: Still it pays most of his wages till his contract expires. Better for club and player And he can't score against us - assuming the normal terms of a loan apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 PSG also have to sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: PSG also have to sell Ffp seems to be having the opposite effect of what it was meant to. Stopping clubs from building and Competing at the very top as they can't get the money in order to comply in the first place. The very rich are also just paying the fines. Needs reviewed I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2018/07/football-usain-bolt-chasing-shock-a-league-move.amp.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Aberdeen wanting £10m for McKenna. One of the funniest things I think I've ever read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, neilnunb said: Aberdeen wanting £10m for McKenna. One of the funniest things I think I've ever read. Should have just said £50m if they are making stuff up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, neilnunb said: Aberdeen wanting £10m for McKenna. One of the funniest things I think I've ever read. Tbh, if you don't ask you don't get. He's a better player than Grant Hanley and he went for about £6m a few years ago. Better to to ask for £10m and get £4/5m than the SPL usual of ask for £2m and get 500k. Not saying he's worth £10m or even £5m but very few players are 'worth' there fee these days - especially in England, and the Scots seem to be about last country in Europe to realise that and take advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said: Tbh, if you don't ask you don't get. He's a better player than Grant Hanley and he went for about £6m a few years ago. Better to to ask for £10m and get £4/5m than the SPL usual of ask for £2m and get 500k. Not saying he's worth £10m or even £5m but very few players are 'worth' there fee these days - especially in England, and the Scots seem to be about last country in Europe to realise that and take advantage. Correct. The rest of Europe are asking for outrageous money. It's about time we started doing the same. If we had had Paterson on a long term deal we could easily have asked for 10m from a championship club. Might not have got it but we could and should set the bar that high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said: Tbh, if you don't ask you don't get. He's a better player than Grant Hanley and he went for about £6m a few years ago. Better to to ask for £10m and get £4/5m than the SPL usual of ask for £2m and get 500k. Not saying he's worth £10m or even £5m but very few players are 'worth' there fee these days - especially in England, and the Scots seem to be about last country in Europe to realise that and take advantage. Another 5 for 10 million and their ground is paid for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, benny said: Another 5 for 10 million and their ground is paid for. Likewise with Cochrane and Souttar, we could sell them and fill in the corners... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Its about tine Scottish teams stopped taking the dry one from England and the OF. Good on Aberdeen for slapping a huge price tag on their biggest asset. (And btw to Hibs for not taking it from Celtic.) Aberdeen can easily point to Calum Patersons achievements last season as a similarly rated young player from SPFL. We were unlucky fee wise there but frankly what would a team pay for someone like CP from another English team?? Negotiations would start at £10M. People scoffing at Aberdeen for this type of stance is part of the rooted problem we have up here. A major inferiority complex and massively self effacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) On 14/07/2018 at 07:33, Gulf Jambo said: He wants to keep faith with Karius. Says he has a lot of trust in him, he has potential to be one of the world's best... Could be his downfall tbh Not sure this is too accurate...Liverpool just bid £62m for Alisson at Roma. Liverpool putting together a squad that's going to push Man City for the title I think...be interesting to see who Man Utd and Chelsea sign (particularly if Courtois and Hazard sign for Madrid). Edited July 17, 2018 by Deviskan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulf Jambo Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, Deviskan said: Not sure this is too accurate...Liverpool just bid £62m for Alisson at Roma. Liverpool putting together a squad that's going to push Man City for the title I think...be interesting to see who Man Utd and Chelsea sign (particularly if Courtois and Hazard sign for Madrid). Fair enough. I was going off of an interview with Klopp after Karius had made another mistake last week. Alisson is a great keeper though. Would solve their problem for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambojay84 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, Deviskan said: Not sure this is too accurate...Liverpool just bid £62m for Alisson at Roma. Liverpool putting together a squad that's going to push Man City for the title I think...be interesting to see who Man Utd and Chelsea sign (particularly if Courtois and Hazard sign for Madrid). Whilst I think Alisson is a brilliant keeper I'd have thought donnaruma would have been the cheaper option what with AC's ffp issues at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 10 hours ago, TheBigO said: Its about tine Scottish teams stopped taking the dry one from England and the OF. Good on Aberdeen for slapping a huge price tag on their biggest asset. (And btw to Hibs for not taking it from Celtic.) Aberdeen can easily point to Calum Patersons achievements last season as a similarly rated young player from SPFL. We were unlucky fee wise there but frankly what would a team pay for someone like CP from another English team?? Negotiations would start at £10M. People scoffing at Aberdeen for this type of stance is part of the rooted problem we have up here. A major inferiority complex and massively self effacing. Say a championship club comes in though and offer a million and Aberdeen say 'No, £10 million', the player gets wind of the money on offer he may say 'happy to stay but pay me in line with your valuation or I'm handing in transfer request' and he'd be right to do so imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 49 minutes ago, Taffin said: Say a championship club comes in though and offer a million and Aberdeen say 'No, £10 million', the player gets wind of the money on offer he may say 'happy to stay but pay me in line with your valuation or I'm handing in transfer request' and he'd be right to do so imo. So whats the alternative? Sell our players below their value cos we cant afford same wages as Huddersfield? No chance. You give the guy the best deal you can. Uf he signs the contract, its to him to honour it, no matter how good he suddenly gets! Whats a player thinking when he signs the contract? Ach I’ve prob found my level here, or does ge have smbition and know he needs to start somewhere and cut his bones, earn his move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, TheBigO said: So whats the alternative? Sell our players below their value cos we cant afford same wages as Huddersfield? No chance. You give the guy the best deal you can. Uf he signs the contract, its to him to honour it, no matter how good he suddenly gets! Whats a player thinking when he signs the contract? Ach I’ve prob found my level here, or does ge have smbition and know he needs to start somewhere and cut his bones, earn his move? I don't entirely disagree with you but I can see why people might feel a bit miffed. 'We value you at X but we aren't willing to reflect that in our wages'. That would annoy me at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, Taffin said: I don't entirely disagree with you but I can see why people might feel a bit miffed. 'We value you at X but we aren't willing to reflect that in our wages'. That would annoy me at work. It would annoy me as well and no doubt my workmates too If however, I was aware the alternative was that the firm's existence would be jeopardised if we all got a rise, I would stick with it until something better turned up rather than being thrown on the dole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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