Poisoned Russian spy.

[JamboX2]

17 minutes ago, yabadabadoo1874again said:

British Broadcasting Corporation.

 

Propaganda. 

 

Red Tory comment latched onto by Blue Tory.  Apparently.

 

Anti Russian Propaganda.

 

Let's get this straight. Millions of Russians stopped Hitler with their lives.  Saving Britain from right wing takeover.

 

Yet here we are in right wing Britain.  Is this why they hate Russia so much?

 

Impeach Boriski.  A danger to us all. A dangerous egotistical fool.

 

BBC is literally an untrustworthy fabrication factory.  This is not new information.

 

 

Have you seen Russian coverage of this?

 

The BBC isn't perfect. But it's madness to suggest it's an outlet like Russian state broadcasters.

[Thunderstruck]

6 hours ago, maroonlegions said:

Seems that Maybot never really thought this out when she blamed Russia from the start. She is a deranged narcissist with a real mental imbalance.

 

New Scientist you say.

 

"Several countries could have made the nerve agent used in the chemical attack on Russians Sergei and Yulia Skripal in Salisbury, UK, weapons experts have told New Scientist.

 

"British Prime Minister Theresa May says that because it was Russia that developed Novichok agents, it is “highly likely” that Russia either attacked the Skripals itself, or lost control of its Novichok to someone else who did. But other countries legally created Novichok for testing purposes after its existence was revealed in 1992, and a production method …

Exclusive: Other countries could have made 'Russian' nerve agent

 

 

 

“It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.” - Sherlock Holmes 

 

Those who have access to the evidence (data) would appear to have reached a clear consensus that Russia (Putin and FSB) is the perpetrator.

 

Others, quoted in this thread by you and others do not have the full facts but they are not even twisting facts to suit theories, they are simply making s**t up. 

 

But, assuming your theory is remotely possible then these “other agencies”:-

 

How did they know who the Skripals were - the father and the daughter?

How did they know where they were and when they would be there?

If the delivery vehicle was the daughter’s luggage, (quite apart from the utter lunacy of letting this loose in airports and aircraft) how did they know when and how she would leave Moscow?

How did they deliver the component parts of the weapon and then mix in an environment where they (these other agents) wouldn’t endanger themselves or cause collateral damage?

How did they organise the significant surveillance and intelligence gathering operation in two countries (one of them Russia)?

 

 

[Thunderstruck]

35 minutes ago, yabadabadoo1874again said:

British Broadcasting Corporation.

 

Propaganda. 

 

Red Tory comment latched onto by Blue Tory.  Apparently.

 

Anti Russian Propaganda.

 

Let's get this straight. Millions of Russians stopped Hitler with their lives.  Saving Britain from right wing takeover.

 

Yet here we are in right wing Britain.  Is this why they hate Russia so much?

 

Impeach Boriski.  A danger to us all. A dangerous egotistical fool.

 

BBC is literally an untrustworthy fabrication factory.  This is not new information.

 

 

 

 

Let’s not forget that Britain and its Empire (all the while fighting Japan) stood alone against Hitler in Europe and in Africa, engaging a sizeable proportion of Hitler’s forces and keeping them out of the fighting on the Eastern Front. This bought Stalin time to regroup, engage industry east of the Urals and then take the fight to the Germans. 

 

Furthermore, Stalin relied heavily on the Arctic convoys (Royal Navy and British Merchant Fleet) taking supplies to Murmansk (supplies we could have used at home) in truly appalling conditions. 

 

Churchill was savvy enough to know that fighting the war on two fronts was not to German advantage and was willing to do a deal with the devil to make that happen and keep it going until the Yanks got on board. 

 

So, please don’t let us hear any more of the nonsense that we exist as we are today only because of Russian sacrifice. 

[jake]

58 minutes ago, Thunderstruck said:

 

“It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.” - Sherlock Holmes 

 

Those who have access to the evidence (data) would appear to have reached a clear consensus that Russia (Putin and FSB) is the perpetrator.

 

Others, quoted in this thread by you and others do not have the full facts but they are not even twisting facts to suit theories, they are simply making s**t up. 

 

But, assuming your theory is remotely possible then these “other agencies”:-

 

How did they know who the Skripals were - the father and the daughter?

How did they know where they were and when they would be there?

If the delivery vehicle was the daughter’s luggage, (quite apart from the utter lunacy of letting this loose in airports and aircraft) how did they know when and how she would leave Moscow?

How did they deliver the component parts of the weapon and then mix in an environment where they (these other agents) wouldn’t endanger themselves or cause collateral damage?

How did they organise the significant surveillance and intelligence gathering operation in two countries (one of them Russia)?

 

 

All those how's would be easily garnered by any half decent investigators.

Don't get your point.

Those who are accessing data have not produced a verdict.

Only politicians have.

And recent revelations involving other information casts doubt on much of what we are told.

There are other wisdoms that should be adhered to.

Like once bitten twice shy.

Especially on media manipulation on foreign states supposed crime .

 

[Sharpie]

1 hour ago, Thunderstruck said:

Let’s not forget that Britain and its Empire (all the while fighting Japan) stood alone against Hitler in Europe and in Africa, engaging a sizeable proportion of Hitler’s forces and keeping them out of the fighting on the Eastern Front. This bought Stalin time to regroup, engage industry east of the Urals and then take the fight to the Germans. 

 

Furthermore, Stalin relied heavily on the Arctic convoys (Royal Navy and British Merchant Fleet) taking supplies to Murmansk (supplies we could have used at home) in truly appalling conditions. 

 

Churchill was savvy enough to know that fighting the war on two fronts was not to German advantage and was willing to do a deal with the devil to make that happen and keep it going until the Yanks got on board. 

 

So, please don’t let us hear any more of the nonsense that we exist as we are today only because of Russian sacrifice. 

 

Thank you.

[Geoff the Mince]

7 hours ago, yabadabadoo1874again said:

British Broadcasting Corporation.

 

Propaganda. 

 

Red Tory comment latched onto by Blue Tory.  Apparently.

 

Anti Russian Propaganda.

 

Let's get this straight. Millions of Russians stopped Hitler with their lives.  Saving Britain from right wing takeover.

 

Yet here we are in right wing Britain.  Is this why they hate Russia so much?

 

Impeach Boriski.  A danger to us all. A dangerous egotistical fool.

 

BBC is literally an untrustworthy fabrication factory.  This is not new information.

 

 

 

 

[yabadabadoo1874again]

7 hours ago, Thunderstruck said:

Let’s not forget that Britain and its Empire (all the while fighting Japan) stood alone against Hitler in Europe and in Africa, engaging a sizeable proportion of Hitler’s forces and keeping them out of the fighting on the Eastern Front. This bought Stalin time to regroup, engage industry east of the Urals and then take the fight to the Germans. 

 

Furthermore, Stalin relied heavily on the Arctic convoys (Royal Navy and British Merchant Fleet) taking supplies to Murmansk (supplies we could have used at home) in truly appalling conditions. 

 

Churchill was savvy enough to know that fighting the war on two fronts was not to German advantage and was willing to do a deal with the devil to make that happen and keep it going until the Yanks got on board. 

 

So, please don’t let us hear any more of the nonsense that we exist as we are today only because of Russian sacrifice. 

 

That Hitler twice ordered the panzers to stop at Dunkirk.  To enable the British to get away.  Is most likely the reason we exist as we do today.  Twice. Acknowledged as his first (of many) titanic blunders.

 

This may not have made it into the films of course.

Edited March 22, 2018 by yabadabadoo1874again

[Ibrahim Tall]

Boris is a moron.

Yes, Putins regime is undemocratic and authoritarian but it’s no where near comparable to Nazi Germany. More importantly given this weeks election results it’s also going nowhere soon and it’s still one we will need to work and deal with for at minimum the next 6 years.

By publicly comparing him to ****ing Hitler he’s just further sabotaged UK/Russian relations for at minimum the length of our own government. There’s a reason why Russian spies be that Litvinienko or Skripal are turning up dead in Britain and not France, Germany etc and a large part of it is there’s no serious ‘relationship’ at risk of harm as a result of a decade of non-existent relations.

[Geoff the Mince]

4 minutes ago, yabadabadoo1874again said:

 

That Hitler twice ordered the panzers to stop at Dunkirk.  To enable the British to get away.  Is most likely the reason we exist as we do today.  Twice. Acknowledged as his first (of many) titanic blunders.

 

This may not have made it into the films of course.

I would say that our fantastic weather also played a part in hampering the Germans plans for invasion .

 

Back on the subject I think Bo Jo's comments were rather inappropriate . 

[Victorian]

At a time when the UK needs to remain absolutely resolute in it's assertions regarding what is known and what has been claimed,     removing the Foreign Secretary is probably the worst suggestion ever devised by a human being.       A howler.

 

 

[Francis Albert]

1 hour ago, Victorian said:

At a time when the UK needs to remain absolutely resolute in it's assertions regarding what is known and what has been claimed,     removing the Foreign Secretary is probably the worst suggestion ever devised by a human being.       A howler.

 

 

Yes it makes the decisions of Hitler and Stalin to murder millions pale into insignificance.

[Francis Albert]

9 hours ago, Thunderstruck said:

Let’s not forget that Britain and its Empire (all the while fighting Japan) stood alone against Hitler in Europe and in Africa, engaging a sizeable proportion of Hitler’s forces and keeping them out of the fighting on the Eastern Front. This bought Stalin time to regroup, engage industry east of the Urals and then take the fight to the Germans. 

 

Furthermore, Stalin relied heavily on the Arctic convoys (Royal Navy and British Merchant Fleet) taking supplies to Murmansk (supplies we could have used at home) in truly appalling conditions. 

 

Churchill was savvy enough to know that fighting the war on two fronts was not to German advantage and was willing to do a deal with the devil to make that happen and keep it going until the Yanks got on board. 

 

So, please don’t let us hear any more of the nonsense that we exist as we are today only because of Russian sacrifice. 

We were not fighting Japan when we stood alone against Hitler.

 

[Francis Albert]

2 hours ago, yabadabadoo1874again said:

 

That Hitler twice ordered the panzers to stop at Dunkirk.  To enable the British to get away.  Is most likely the reason we exist as we do today.  Twice. Acknowledged as his first (of many) titanic blunders.

 

This may not have made it into the films of course.

The Darkest Hour made it clear that Hitler had good reason to believe that most of the Tory Party were prepared to line up with the appeasers Chamberlain and Halifax until Churchill aided by Attlee and Labour took over.

[Francis Albert]

From Private Eye

1 day: Time Theresa May gave Putin to explain use of Russian nerve agent on Sergei Skripal

1 year: Time Theresa May, as home secretary, resisted public enquiry into murder of Alexander Litvinenko citing international relations among other factors, before being overruled by the high court.

 

[SE16 3LN]

11 hours ago, yabadabadoo1874again said:

British Broadcasting Corporation.

 

Propaganda. 

 

Red Tory comment latched onto by Blue Tory.  Apparently.

 

Anti Russian Propaganda.

 

Let's get this straight. Millions of Russians stopped Hitler with their lives.  Saving Britain from right wing takeover.

 

Yet here we are in right wing Britain.  Is this why they hate Russia so much?

 

Impeach Boriski.  A danger to us all. A dangerous egotistical fool.

 

BBC is literally an untrustworthy fabrication factory.  This is not new information.

 

 

 

 

Prior to that we had the Nazi Soviet pact. Hitler was a comrade in Stalins eyes and many Russian lives would have been saved if Stalin had realised that Nazi Germany was state capitalist and not socialist. Not that Stalin really cared about Russian lives. 

[John Findlay]

3 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said:

Prior to that we had the Nazi Soviet pact. Hitler was a comrade in Stalins eyes and many Russian lives would have been saved if Stalin had realised that Nazi Germany was state capitalist and not socialist. Not that Stalin really cared about Russian lives. 

Aye. Stalin stopped millions of Russians by taking their lives. Difference between Hitler and Stalin? Their names are spelled differently.

[Boris]

25 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said:

Prior to that we had the Nazi Soviet pact. Hitler was a comrade in Stalins eyes and many Russian lives would have been saved if Stalin had realised that Nazi Germany was state capitalist and not socialist. Not that Stalin really cared about Russian lives. 

 

Disagree completely.

 

Stalin knew Hitler was a fascist and that Nazism abhorred Marxism/Communism.  Not to mention the contempt the Germans held for the Slavic peoples.  The Ribbentrop/Molotov Pact was realpolitik on the side of the Soviets.  They gained a buffer in the part of Poland (formerly part of the Russian Empire) that they got out of the deal.  It bought them time before the inevitable German invasion.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3223834/Stalin-planned-to-send-a-million-troops-to-stop-Hitler-if-Britain-and-France-agreed-pact.html

Edited March 22, 2018 by Boris

[Geoff the Mince]

56 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

Aye. Stalin stopped millions of Russians by taking their lives. Difference between Hitler and Stalin? Their names are spelled differently.

Exactly John;  Stalin killed the Ukranians in the 1930s in the same numbers as Hitler killed Jews.  Two utter scumbags.  

[southcap]

4 hours ago, yabadabadoo1874again said:

 

That Hitler twice ordered the panzers to stop at Dunkirk.  To enable the British to get away.  Is most likely the reason we exist as we do today.  Twice. Acknowledged as his first (of many) titanic blunders.

 

This may not have made it into the films of course.

Wasn't going to get involved in this topic again til I read this.

 

I think you need to read some history books if you think that.

 

1. It was virtually impossible for the Germans to invade the UK.  Ever. The BEF escaping home helped later in the war and for morale, but they played zero role in stopping the invasion. The UK even had last ditch plans to use chemical weapons to stop the invasion, nothing was off the cards. Then there's the RAF and the Royal Navy, who at the time were still the most powerful naval force in the world. All this before anyone even stepped foot on UK soil. Then there's the complete lack of any intelligence coming out of the UK to help, they would have been going in blind.

2. Stopping the German advance on the BEF wasn't entirely a 'hitler just decided to make the call' decision. Several of his generals were heavily pushing for it. German logistics were stretched to their limit and they had to attack an enemy with their backs to the wall in a defensive position. It would have been carnage. Meat grinder + lack of supplies = bad idea.

 

Such bad history.

[Sraman]

Nice one Boris. Your deflection tactics are certainly working on here. They don't seem to have read the part where Boris states that he still loves the Russian people and the fight is only with Putin. Yep that's the very same people that wiped out a whole arm of his extended family, making it impossible for arseholes like him to prosper just because he is an arsehole like him, of course he loves you.

 

 

[yabadabadoo1874again]

45 minutes ago, southcap said:

Wasn't going to get involved in this topic again til I read this.

 

I think you need to read some history books if you think that.

 

1. It was virtually impossible for the Germans to invade the UK.  Ever. The BEF escaping home helped later in the war and for morale, but they played zero role in stopping the invasion. The UK even had last ditch plans to use chemical weapons to stop the invasion, nothing was off the cards. Then there's the RAF and the Royal Navy, who at the time were still the most powerful naval force in the world. All this before anyone even stepped foot on UK soil. Then there's the complete lack of any intelligence coming out of the UK to help, they would have been going in blind.

2. Stopping the German advance on the BEF wasn't entirely a 'hitler just decided to make the call' decision. Several of his generals were heavily pushing for it. German logistics were stretched to their limit and they had to attack an enemy with their backs to the wall in a defensive position. It would have been carnage. Meat grinder + lack of supplies = bad idea.

 

Such bad history.

 

Erich von Manstein. 

 

Lost Victories. 

 

Is a book.

 

You may even call it a history book.

 

An intriguing title of the book.

 

You may even read that book.

 

Who knows?

 

 

[Sraman]

5 minutes ago, yabadabadoo1874again said:

 

Erich von Manstein. 

 

Lost Victories. 

 

Is a book.

 

You may even call it a history book.

 

An intriguing title of the book.

 

You may even read that book.

 

Who knows?

 

 

 

 

Come on now, everyone knows the history books are written by the victors.

[southcap]

Just now, yabadabadoo1874again said:

 

Erich von Manstein. 

 

Lost Victories. 

 

Is a book.

 

You may even call it a history book.

 

An intriguing title of the book.

 

You may even read that book.

 

Who knows?

 

 

If you wish to base all your opinions on a single book, feel free.

 

I'll base my opinions on countless hours/days studying the topic from a variety of different sources.

 

Lots of Germans love to blame all the failures in WW2 purely on the shoulders of Hitler. People seem to think that the German's were some kind of invincible war machine. They weren't.

 

Logistics rule and can rarely keep up with the front line at the best of time, never mind one as dynamic as the blitzkrieg that was having success that was way above their wildest dreams. 

 

Quote

The line between disorder and order lies in logistics…"
- Sun Tzu

"My logisticians are a humorless lot ... they know if my campaign fails, they are the first ones I will slay."
- Alexander
 

"Behind every great leader there was an even greater logistician."
- M. Cox

"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980

 

The quotes on millitary logistics are endless.

Quote

 

 

[Sharpie]

Russia for as long as I have been able to remember has been a thorn in the flesh of the world.  I remember well the mental wreck that returned to our house after sailing in Russian convoys.  I remember well the smiling Roosevelt, Stalin and Churchill meeting to discuss and offer aid to Russia. I even have some small memory of the major talk of the small boats that saved the day at Dunkirk by going into as they call it now harms way to bring the surviviving troops back. I also remember very well how the Russians who took all the help they could get, tried to screw the allies in the partition of the defeated Germany.

 

I remember quite well that little shit Kruschev,   I remember well the stories of the KGB, and the Cuban crisis and all the other things, like murdering people who wanted to cross the infamous wall.  Putin is a Russian, he is a former KGB man, he is a character of his age, I don't hate him, I understand although I do not agree with him that he is a character of his background. The fact is he is one of them, not like ours who do the same things, so now jump on me for being back in my day, but don't tell me the Russians won WW2, don't tell me they are innocent gentle people, they have a deep ambition to be the leaders of the world, and will do what has to be done to achieve that, and having a supporter whether voluntary or under some form of duress a President of the United States who seems unwilling to censure them.

[Sraman]

13 minutes ago, bobsharp said:

Russia for as long as I have been able to remember has been a thorn in the flesh of the world.  I remember well the mental wreck that returned to our house after sailing in Russian convoys.  I remember well the smiling Roosevelt, Stalin and Churchill meeting to discuss and offer aid to Russia. I even have some small memory of the major talk of the small boats that saved the day at Dunkirk by going into as they call it now harms way to bring the surviviving troops back. I also remember very well how the Russians who took all the help they could get, tried to screw the allies in the partition of the defeated Germany.

 

I remember quite well that little shit Kruschev,   I remember well the stories of the KGB, and the Cuban crisis and all the other things, like murdering people who wanted to cross the infamous wall.  Putin is a Russian, he is a former KGB man, he is a character of his age, I don't hate him, I understand although I do not agree with him that he is a character of his background. The fact is he is one of them, not like ours who do the same things, so now jump on me for being back in my day, but don't tell me the Russians won WW2, don't tell me they are innocent gentle people, they have a deep ambition to be the leaders of the world, and will do what has to be done to achieve that, and having a supporter whether voluntary or under some form of duress a President of the United States who seems unwilling to censure them.

 

 

You make them sound almost British in their outlook Bob.

[yabadabadoo1874again]

1 hour ago, Sraman said:

 

 

Come on now, everyone knows the history books are written by the victors.

 

? very true!!!

[yabadabadoo1874again]

1 hour ago, southcap said:

If you wish to base all your opinions on a single book, feel free.

 

I'll base my opinions on countless hours/days studying the topic from a variety of different sources.

 

Lots of Germans love to blame all the failures in WW2 purely on the shoulders of Hitler. People seem to think that the German's were some kind of invincible war machine. They weren't.

 

Logistics rule and can rarely keep up with the front line at the best of time, never mind one as dynamic as the blitzkrieg that was having success that was way above their wildest dreams. 

 

The quotes on millitary logistics are endless.

 

 

In your countless hours of study you haven't read Lost Victories.  No shame there.

[Sharpie]

20 minutes ago, Sraman said:

 

 

You make them sound almost British in their outlook Bob.

 

Thats the problem with life, the longer you live the more it seems it repeats itself., you are in fact quite right because again in my day the books at school were all about Great Britains history of their reasonably succesful motive of being the dominating Country of the World. Look how that ended up.

Edited March 22, 2018 by bobsharp

[Sraman]

39 minutes ago, bobsharp said:

 

Thats the problem with life, the longer you live the more it seems it repeats itself., you are in fact quite right because again in my day the books at school were all about Great Britains history of their reasonably succesful motive of being the dominating Country of the World. Look how that ended up.

 

It sure is a problem Bob, which is currently being compounded by the amount of grey that has so recently been thrown into our black and white worlds by all sides. 

[southcap]

52 minutes ago, yabadabadoo1874again said:

 

In your countless hours of study you haven't read Lost Victories.  No shame there.

Correct. Apologies for not reading the one book you are clinging to.

 

[yabadabadoo1874again]

22 minutes ago, southcap said:

Correct. Apologies for not reading the one book you are clinging to.

 

 

No need to apologise for not having read a history book.

[Space Mackerel]

We would all be half German nowadays if Hitler hadn’t switched his Luftwaffe attacks from the RAF airfields and instead carried on with carpet bombing towns and cities. 

 

 

[Pans Jambo]

49 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

We would all be half German nowadays if Hitler hadn’t switched his Luftwaffe attacks from the RAF airfields and instead carried on with carpet bombing towns and cities. 

 

 

Like the UK Royal family then...

 

 

Anyway, any conclusive evidence/proof yet???

[Francis Albert]

1 hour ago, Space Mackerel said:

We would all be half German nowadays if Hitler hadn’t switched his Luftwaffe attacks from the RAF airfields and instead carried on with carpet bombing towns and cities. 

 

 

He bombed RAF airfields because the RAF was frustrating Luftwaffe  attacks.

[Seymour M Hersh]

20 hours ago, yabadabadoo1874again said:

British Broadcasting Corporation.

 

Propaganda. 

 

Red Tory comment latched onto by Blue Tory.  Apparently.

 

Anti Russian Propaganda.

 

Let's get this straight. Millions of Russians stopped Hitler with their lives.  Saving Britain from right wing takeover.

 

Yet here we are in right wing Britain.  Is this why they hate Russia so much?

 

Impeach Boriski.  A danger to us all. A dangerous egotistical fool.

 

BBC is literally an untrustworthy fabrication factory.  This is not new information.

 

 

 

 

 

Never in the field of social media has so much shite been spoken by one person.

[Victorian]

So Hitler was "right wing" was he?    Makes him sound a bit like Norman Tebbit... or the Morningside Women's Luncheon Club.    

[Boris]

39 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

He bombed RAF airfields because the RAF was frustrating Luftwaffe  attacks.

But when an errant luftwaffe bomber emptied its payload on London in error, the RAF bombed Berlin. An enraged Fuhrer order a full attack on London, giving the airfields some respite. 

 

Had he sucked it up and carried on attacking the airfields he may have gained air superiority. 

 

As I understand it at least. 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

38 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

He bombed RAF airfields because the RAF was frustrating Luftwaffe  attacks.

 

Notwithstanding that the Germans also knew that before any invasion could happen they had to destroy or severely degrade the RAF to the point that the Luftwaffe had masterly of the sky's over Britain.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

Just now, Boris said:

But when an errant luftwaffe bomber emptied its payload on London in error, the RAF bombed Berlin. An enraged Fuhrer order a full attack on London, giving the airfields some respite. 

 

Had he sucked it up and carried on attacking the airfields he may have gained air superiority. 

 

As I understand it at least. 

 

I was about to write similar, as that is my understanding of what happened as well.

 

Was it not fog or something and rather than return with a full bomb load he dumped it into what he thought was the sea, but he was way off course that the bombs landed on London instead.

[Francis Albert]

26 minutes ago, Victorian said:

So Hitler was "right wing" was he?    Makes him sound a bit like Norman Tebbit... or the Morningside Women's Luncheon Club.    

These days anyone to the right of the blessed jeremy is right wing.

[John Findlay]

The thing about the far Left and the far Right is they always meet in the middle.

[Francis Albert]

21 minutes ago, Boris said:

But when an errant luftwaffe bomber emptied its payload on London in error, the RAF bombed Berlin. An enraged Fuhrer order a full attack on London, giving the airfields some respite. 

 

Had he sucked it up and carried on attacking the airfields he may have gained air superiority. 

 

As I understand it at least. 

If i were a real cynic  i would suspect we faked the attack on london. All is fair etc.

[John Findlay]

5 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

If i were a real cynic  i would suspect we faked the attack on london. All is fair etc.

Aye and that fantastic documentary series from the 70s. World At War was a waste of television time

[Francis Albert]

5 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

Aye and that fantastic documentary series from the 70s. World At War was a waste of television time

Not sure how that follows. A lot of new stiuff has emerged since the 70s.

[Boris]

15 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

If i were a real cynic  i would suspect we faked the attack on london. All is fair etc.

Glad you're not!

[yabadabadoo1874again]

44 minutes ago, Victorian said:

So Hitler was "right wing" was he?    Makes him sound a bit like Norman Tebbit... or the Morningside Women's Luncheon Club.    

 

German Nationalist. 

 

Took to the streets with his mob to scupper and stop the Bavarian independence movement....

 

Like British Nationalist.  So in a way you may be spot on...in this era...

 

But who really knows.  or cares?

[Space Mackerel]

1 hour ago, Francis Albert said:

He bombed RAF airfields because the RAF was frustrating Luftwaffe  attacks.

 

Youve been reading the Ladybird Book entitled The Battle of Britain haven’t you? 

[Francis Albert]

1 hour ago, yabadabadoo1874again said:

 

German Nationalist. 

 

Took to the streets with his mob to scupper and stop the Bavarian independence movement....

 

Like British Nationalist.  So in a way you may be spot on...in this era...

 

But who really knows.  or cares?

Hitler was the equivalent of an opponent of the SNP? You may have nailed it!

Just wow.

[Francis Albert]

52 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

Youve been reading the Ladybird Book entitled The Battle of Britain haven’t you? 

Yes. Ladybird made up the role of the RAF in WW2.

[Governor Tarkin]

1 hour ago, Boris said:

Glad you're not!