AlphonseCapone Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: Joanna Cherry seems to think her Scottish court case can force the PM to revoke Article 50. Politicians like her will govern an independent Scotland. Anybody sympathetic to that cause, please bear this in mind. You want people to bear Joanna Cherry in mind when making judgements on the constitutional future of their country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: Joanna Cherry seems to think her Scottish court case can force the PM to revoke Article 50. Politicians like her will govern an independent Scotland. Anybody sympathetic to that cause, please bear this in mind. The ones in Westminster are doing a grand job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: The ones in Westminster are doing a grand job. Exactly! Boris, Jacob and Gove. Aye, the real name are Joanne Cherry etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Justin Z said: Still have absolutely no idea where you're going or what your point is. Let me make it clear. Feck Westminster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Let me make it clear. Feck Westminster! Sorry, didn't catch that the other 14 million times you've said as much. Anyway as much as I agree, it does **** all for the legitimacy of or legal support for a UDI. As I see it, there is none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Francis Albert said: I see mogg has described some of the outrage over suspension of Parliament as phoney. Sounds a bit Trumpish but I think in some cases at least he has a point. Anna Soubry and Gina Miller outraged at the (alleged) breach of the constitution and running again to the Courts. Suspect if someone came up with a constitutionally dubious way of stopping Brexit they would welcome it with open arms. Take back control. British laws for British people. Let our laws decide what should happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 55 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: You want people to bear Joanna Cherry in mind when making judgements on the constitutional future of their country? The political dwarves who will be in power in an independent Scotland. That should concern people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: The political dwarves who will be in power in an independent Scotland. That should concern people. Aye standing on the shoulders of the giants in Westminster right enough. There's a lack of political talent right throughout UK politics, not just Holyrood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: The political dwarves who will be in power in an independent Scotland. That should concern people. With all due respect you need to open your thinking up, it's very short sighted. Independence, or not, is well beyond one or two individuals. And that's before pointing out the obvious flaw in your argument, look at some of the politicians at Westminster who are in power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 37 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: The political dwarves who will be in power in an independent Scotland. That should concern people. You don’t know who that will be. If independence ever happened, the Nats wouldn’t be swanning about for good. The whole political landscape would change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: The political dwarves who will be in power in an independent Scotland. That should concern people. Look over here!!!! Are you seriously suggesting Joanna Cherry is the main discussion topic today? FFS !!!!! Westminster is the laughing stock of the PLANET right now but you want to talk about Joanna feckin Cherry! OK mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 27 minutes ago, Boab said: You don’t know who that will be. If independence ever happened, the Nats wouldn’t be swanning about for good. The whole political landscape would change. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Justin Z said: Sorry, didn't catch that the other 14 million times you've said as much. Anyway as much as I agree, it does **** all for the legitimacy of or legal support for a UDI. As I see it, there is none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, dobmisterdobster said: The political dwarves who will be in power in an independent Scotland. That should concern people. Yet constant Tory rule is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Yet constant Tory rule is fine. Sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, dobmisterdobster said: Joanna Cherry seems to think her Scottish court case can force the PM to revoke Article 50. Politicians like her will govern an independent Scotland. Anybody sympathetic to that cause, please bear this in mind. In an independent Scotland, If people vote for politicians like her they will govern us. At the moment we get politicians like Boris, who we didn't vote for, governing us. Anyone sympathetic to the UK to that case should bear this in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 4 hours ago, dobmisterdobster said: Joanna Cherry seems to think her Scottish court case can force the PM to revoke Article 50. Politicians like her will govern an independent Scotland. Anybody sympathetic to that cause, please bear this in mind. I didn't know you were an expert on constitutional law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Francis Albert said: I see mogg has described some of the outrage over suspension of Parliament as phoney. Sounds a bit Trumpish but I think in some cases at least he has a point. Anna Soubry and Gina Miller outraged at the (alleged) breach of the constitution and running again to the Courts. Suspect if someone came up with a constitutionally dubious way of stopping Brexit they would welcome it with open arms. Who's "they"? If someone did come up with a "dubious" way to stop Brexit then ERG et al could also use the courts to decide. Just because it's "dubious" does not mean it's inherently unconstitutional and if the UK actually had a written constitution then there would be no need for this ( like avoiding the need to get a court order to make an advisory referendum legally binding on the govt) . You know full well that what BJ has done is unprecedented (whether it's unconstitutional we'll soon find out) and Bercow has not pulled his punches on the matter. I respect your point of view but not your bias : you simply indulge in whataboutery dressed up as debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Aye standing on the shoulders of the giants in Westminster right enough. There's a lack of political talent right throughout UK politics, not just Holyrood. Tories talking of this shite bag Boris as if its some kind of game show on the tv. Not in the real world. Make no mistake this shutting down of parliament is an attack on democracy. Brexit is and will always be a Tory con. A con to rip up EU protected workers rights on sick pay, holiday pay and work related pay and working conditions. There has always been an inbred hatred of the Unions in the Tory party, a hatred for anyone or any organization that has the balls to stand up for the ordinary working man/woman. Anyone who will stand up for those being bullied , anyone who will stand up or give a voice to those who have no fecking voice. The Tory bullies are shitting it, make no mistake of that, and that is why the KNOWN liar and twice SACKED current PM is trying to force through a no deal or any deal for that matter. Why because Brexit was formed by the tory think tanks and spin manipulators for one thing only, and that is to benefit the likes of Reece Mog and individuals like him. The multi millionaires .They want an isolated UK as it would be a cash cow for the 1%. Rip up the EU laws of working conditions and pay, then you can create a isolated workhouse of zero contacts, poverty wages and massive payouts to the big shareholders. Reece Mogg and Boris the clown want us back in the Victorian times, no affordable health care and no welfare state. You get ill and can't afford health insurance because of poverty wages then you just fecking die. You get ill , can't work, tough, no sick pay, then you face the choice of working so you dont starve or end up homeless. Is that the world people really want for others. Need time off work, want a holiday good then feck off but you aint getting a fecking dime in holiday pay. The Tory creation of a draconian slave workforce is hidden in the lies and spin they have feed the people since Bojo the clown first promised the NHS millions on that car crash of a leave bus, when Brexit was first forced down our throats by the Tory right wing media, (BBC). All those things protected by EU law that the unions have fought hard to make the ordinary mans/women's standard of living worth fecking living could be ripped up, it's no surprise that the real parasites like Reece Mogg are sniffing around again. They are the ones that benefit in the long run. Bojo the clown is desperate, the desperation and cowardice is his act in trying to shut down a democratic voice of the electorate . Anoyone defending such an attack on democracy is feking at it ,and is in the camp of i am alright jack feck you. And yet the right wing papers and media trolls from day one of this Tory created circus would have us believe that an old man like Corbyn is the real threat to Britain and the stability and security of the ordinary working man and woman of the UK. Edited August 29, 2019 by maroonlegions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 32 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Tories talking of this shite bag Boris as if its some kind of game show on the tv. Not in the real world. Make no mistake this shutting down of parliament is an attack on democracy. Brexit is and will always be a Tory con. A con to rip up EU protected workers rights on sick pay, holiday pay and work related pay and working conditions. There has always been an inbred hatred of the Unions in the Tory party, a hatred for anyone or any organization that has the balls to stand up for the ordinary working man/woman. Anyone who will stand up for those being bullied , anyone who will stand up or give a voice to those who have no fecking voice. The Tory bullies are shitting it, make no mistake of that, and that is why the KNOWN liar and twice SACKED current PM is trying to force through a no deal or any deal for that matter. Why because Brexit was formed by the tory think tanks and spin manipulators for one thing only, and that is to benefit the likes of Reece Mog and individuals like him. The multi millionaires .They want an isolated UK as it would be a cash cow for the 1%. Rip up the EU laws of working conditions and pay, then you can create a isolated workhouse of zero contacts, poverty wages and massive payouts to the big shareholders. Reece Mogg and Boris the clown want us back in the Victorian times, no affordable health care and no welfare state. You get ill and can't afford health insurance because of poverty wages then you just fecking die. You get ill , can't work, tough, no sick pay, then you face the choice of working so you dont starve or end up homeless. Is that the world people really want for others. Need time off work, want a holiday good then feck off but you aint getting a fecking dime in holiday pay. The Tory creation of a draconian slave workforce is hidden in the lies and spin they have feed the people since Bojo the clown first promised the NHS millions on that car crash of a leave bus, when Brexit was first forced down our throats by the Tory right wing media, (BBC). All those things protected by EU law that the unions have fought hard to make the ordinary mans/women's standard of living worth fecking living could be ripped up, it's no surprise that the real parasites like Reece Mogg are sniffing around again. They are the ones that benefit in the long run. Bojo the clown is desperate, the desperation and cowardice is his act in trying to shut down a democratic voice of the electorate . Anoyone defending such an attack on democracy is feking at it ,and is in the camp of i am alright jack feck you. And yet the right wing papers and media trolls from day one of this Tory created circus would have us believe that an old man like Corbyn is the real threat to Britain and the stability and security of the ordinary working man and woman of the UK. Well said. They are vermin. If it’s good enough for Bevan, it’s good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 32 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Tories talking of this shite bag Boris as if its some kind of game show on the tv. Not in the real world. Make no mistake this shutting down of parliament is an attack on democracy. Brexit is and will always be a Tory con. A con to rip up EU protected workers rights on sick pay, holiday pay and work related pay and working conditions. There has always been an inbred hatred of the Unions in the Tory party, a hatred for anyone or any organization that has the balls to stand up for the ordinary working man/woman. Anyone who will stand up for those being bullied , anyone who will stand up or give a voice to those who have no fecking voice. The Tory bullies are shitting it, make no mistake of that, and that is why the KNOWN liar and twice SACKED current PM is trying to force through a no deal or any deal for that matter. Why because Brexit was formed by the tory think tanks and spin manipulators for one thing only, and that is to benefit the likes of Reece Mog and individuals like him. The multi millionaires .They want an isolated UK as it would be a cash cow for the 1%. Rip up the EU laws of working conditions and pay, then you can create a isolated workhouse of zero contacts, poverty wages and massive payouts to the big shareholders. Reece Mogg and Boris the clown want us back in the Victorian times, no affordable health care and no welfare state. You get ill and can't afford health insurance because of poverty wages then you just fecking die. You get ill , can't work, tough, no sick pay, then you face the choice of working so you dont starve or end up homeless. Is that the world people really want for others. Need time off work, want a holiday good then feck off but you aint getting a fecking dime in holiday pay. The Tory creation of a draconian slave workforce is hidden in the lies and spin they have feed the people since Bojo the clown first promised the NHS millions on that car crash of a leave bus, when Brexit was first forced down our throats by the Tory right wing media, (BBC). All those things protected by EU law that the unions have fought hard to make the ordinary mans/women's standard of living worth fecking living could be ripped up, it's no surprise that the real parasites like Reece Mogg are sniffing around again. They are the ones that benefit in the long run. Bojo the clown is desperate, the desperation and cowardice is his act in trying to shut down a democratic voice of the electorate . Anoyone defending such an attack on democracy is feking at it ,and is in the camp of i am alright jack feck you. And yet the right wing papers and media trolls from day one of this Tory created circus would have us believe that an old man like Corbyn is the real threat to Britain and the stability and security of the ordinary working man and woman of the UK. Excellent post! Unfortunately, the sheeple that voted for this crock won't know till it's too late. I am a union rep. I am sick to the back teeth of the constant attack on our members Terms and Conditions over very many years. The only saving grace for those that enjoy TUPE protection, is that they have been protected from many of these employee onslaughts. For those colleagues that don't enjoy TUPE protection, well it's been a very different story - Ts and Cs have been constantly eroded, resulting in a two tier workforce. And many of my colleagues voted Leave. Jesus wept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) What a load of utter shite that resignation speech was. All the usual grandiose, pretentious preening. Just **** off and stay ****ed off. Edited August 29, 2019 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 It's all about tax havens and the EU introducing new laws to stop it all. 8 out of the top 10 tax havens in the world are part of the UK territories. 8 out of 10 British Virgin Islands, Bermuda, the Cayman Islands, Turks and Caicos Islands, Anguilla, the Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey Nothing to see here. Move along................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, maroonlegions said: Tories talking of this shite bag Boris as if its some kind of game show on the tv. Not in the real world. Make no mistake this shutting down of parliament is an attack on democracy. Brexit is and will always be a Tory con. A con to rip up EU protected workers rights on sick pay, holiday pay and work related pay and working conditions. There has always been an inbred hatred of the Unions in the Tory party, a hatred for anyone or any organization that has the balls to stand up for the ordinary working man/woman. Anyone who will stand up for those being bullied , anyone who will stand up or give a voice to those who have no fecking voice. The Tory bullies are shitting it, make no mistake of that, and that is why the KNOWN liar and twice SACKED current PM is trying to force through a no deal or any deal for that matter. Why because Brexit was formed by the tory think tanks and spin manipulators for one thing only, and that is to benefit the likes of Reece Mog and individuals like him. The multi millionaires .They want an isolated UK as it would be a cash cow for the 1%. Rip up the EU laws of working conditions and pay, then you can create a isolated workhouse of zero contacts, poverty wages and massive payouts to the big shareholders. Reece Mogg and Boris the clown want us back in the Victorian times, no affordable health care and no welfare state. You get ill and can't afford health insurance because of poverty wages then you just fecking die. You get ill , can't work, tough, no sick pay, then you face the choice of working so you dont starve or end up homeless. Is that the world people really want for others. Need time off work, want a holiday good then feck off but you aint getting a fecking dime in holiday pay. The Tory creation of a draconian slave workforce is hidden in the lies and spin they have feed the people since Bojo the clown first promised the NHS millions on that car crash of a leave bus, when Brexit was first forced down our throats by the Tory right wing media, (BBC). All those things protected by EU law that the unions have fought hard to make the ordinary mans/women's standard of living worth fecking living could be ripped up, it's no surprise that the real parasites like Reece Mogg are sniffing around again. They are the ones that benefit in the long run. Bojo the clown is desperate, the desperation and cowardice is his act in trying to shut down a democratic voice of the electorate . Anoyone defending such an attack on democracy is feking at it ,and is in the camp of i am alright jack feck you. And yet the right wing papers and media trolls from day one of this Tory created circus would have us believe that an old man like Corbyn is the real threat to Britain and the stability and security of the ordinary working man and woman of the UK. Mate, we are at this point now because the opposition parties, particularly Labour have been abysmal over the last 3 years. What's Labour's Brexit policy today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Pans Jambo said: Look over here!!!! Are you seriously suggesting Joanna Cherry is the main discussion topic today? FFS !!!!! Westminster is the laughing stock of the PLANET right now but you want to talk about Joanna feckin Cherry! OK mate. Meltdown alert!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Mate, we are at this point now because the opposition parties, particularly Labour have been abysmal over the last 3 years. What's Labour's Brexit policy today? We are at this point because a few million idiots who simply put, had immigration at the top of their agenda, sold another few million a fantasy. Enough people believed the lies without even knowing exactly what they were voting for Influenced by a few secret donations from billionaires and a tory media people made a poor decision but it's done and unless our MP's develop some hidden strength it will happen Those who voted to leave will hopefully suffer the consequences of their vote before those who voted to remain if there is any justice but in the real world that will not happen. The one time where Karma might be appropriate The UK will survive but lets not kid ourselves thing will not get better for some time if at all How can a country be led by such a buffoon and 'team mates' of equal quality ?....just unbelievable This weeks decision clearly shows the me first approach by Boris and co not I'll put the country first and debate the issue then put it to the country...clearly shows what he and his supporters are lacking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynieman Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, maroonlegions said: Tories talking of this shite bag Boris as if its some kind of game show on the tv. Not in the real world. Make no mistake this shutting down of parliament is an attack on democracy. Brexit is and will always be a Tory con. A con to rip up EU protected workers rights on sick pay, holiday pay and work related pay and working conditions. There has always been an inbred hatred of the Unions in the Tory party, a hatred for anyone or any organization that has the balls to stand up for the ordinary working man/woman. Anyone who will stand up for those being bullied , anyone who will stand up or give a voice to those who have no fecking voice. The Tory bullies are shitting it, make no mistake of that, and that is why the KNOWN liar and twice SACKED current PM is trying to force through a no deal or any deal for that matter. Why because Brexit was formed by the tory think tanks and spin manipulators for one thing only, and that is to benefit the likes of Reece Mog and individuals like him. The multi millionaires .They want an isolated UK as it would be a cash cow for the 1%. Rip up the EU laws of working conditions and pay, then you can create a isolated workhouse of zero contacts, poverty wages and massive payouts to the big shareholders. Reece Mogg and Boris the clown want us back in the Victorian times, no affordable health care and no welfare state. You get ill and can't afford health insurance because of poverty wages then you just fecking die. You get ill , can't work, tough, no sick pay, then you face the choice of working so you dont starve or end up homeless. Is that the world people really want for others. Need time off work, want a holiday good then feck off but you aint getting a fecking dime in holiday pay. The Tory creation of a draconian slave workforce is hidden in the lies and spin they have feed the people since Bojo the clown first promised the NHS millions on that car crash of a leave bus, when Brexit was first forced down our throats by the Tory right wing media, (BBC). All those things protected by EU law that the unions have fought hard to make the ordinary mans/women's standard of living worth fecking living could be ripped up, it's no surprise that the real parasites like Reece Mogg are sniffing around again. They are the ones that benefit in the long run. Bojo the clown is desperate, the desperation and cowardice is his act in trying to shut down a democratic voice of the electorate . Anoyone defending such an attack on democracy is feking at it ,and is in the camp of i am alright jack feck you. And yet the right wing papers and media trolls from day one of this Tory created circus would have us believe that an old man like Corbyn is the real threat to Britain and the stability and security of the ordinary working man and woman of the UK. Post of the year. Spot on. Edited August 29, 2019 by Tynieman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Meltdown alert!! Had a hard day Seymour 👍. Nae time for that shite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Oh ma sides. Piers Morgan, Trump apologist, and David Cameron's one time buddy smacked down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, CJGJ said: We are at this point because a few million idiots who simply put, had immigration at the top of their agenda, sold another few million a fantasy. Enough people believed the lies without even knowing exactly what they were voting for Influenced by a few secret donations from billionaires and a tory media people made a poor decision but it's done and unless our MP's develop some hidden strength it will happen Those who voted to leave will hopefully suffer the consequences of their vote before those who voted to remain if there is any justice but in the real world that will not happen. The one time where Karma might be appropriate The UK will survive but lets not kid ourselves thing will not get better for some time if at all How can a country be led by such a buffoon and 'team mates' of equal quality ?....just unbelievable This weeks decision clearly shows the me first approach by Boris and co not I'll put the country first and debate the issue then put it to the country...clearly shows what he and his supporters are lacking Yeah....... Trouble is a lot of those you wish to suffer if we are to believe the scaremongering are already in that place . Anyway I can see you have been properly informed in the run up to your vote. Then you would know that the remain campaign was backed by both government and a slightly larger % of the press. We are all influenced by many different things. Your attitude is like many . This is your post in headlines. Brexit voters are Racist Stupid and you hope they die. How amusing it is . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, maroonlegions said: Tories talking of this shite bag Boris as if its some kind of game show on the tv. Not in the real world. Make no mistake this shutting down of parliament is an attack on democracy. Brexit is and will always be a Tory con. A con to rip up EU protected workers rights on sick pay, holiday pay and work related pay and working conditions. There has always been an inbred hatred of the Unions in the Tory party, a hatred for anyone or any organization that has the balls to stand up for the ordinary working man/woman. Anyone who will stand up for those being bullied , anyone who will stand up or give a voice to those who have no fecking voice. The Tory bullies are shitting it, make no mistake of that, and that is why the KNOWN liar and twice SACKED current PM is trying to force through a no deal or any deal for that matter. Why because Brexit was formed by the tory think tanks and spin manipulators for one thing only, and that is to benefit the likes of Reece Mog and individuals like him. The multi millionaires .They want an isolated UK as it would be a cash cow for the 1%. Rip up the EU laws of working conditions and pay, then you can create a isolated workhouse of zero contacts, poverty wages and massive payouts to the big shareholders. Reece Mogg and Boris the clown want us back in the Victorian times, no affordable health care and no welfare state. You get ill and can't afford health insurance because of poverty wages then you just fecking die. You get ill , can't work, tough, no sick pay, then you face the choice of working so you dont starve or end up homeless. Is that the world people really want for others. Need time off work, want a holiday good then feck off but you aint getting a fecking dime in holiday pay. The Tory creation of a draconian slave workforce is hidden in the lies and spin they have feed the people since Bojo the clown first promised the NHS millions on that car crash of a leave bus, when Brexit was first forced down our throats by the Tory right wing media, (BBC). All those things protected by EU law that the unions have fought hard to make the ordinary mans/women's standard of living worth fecking living could be ripped up, it's no surprise that the real parasites like Reece Mogg are sniffing around again. They are the ones that benefit in the long run. Bojo the clown is desperate, the desperation and cowardice is his act in trying to shut down a democratic voice of the electorate . Anoyone defending such an attack on democracy is feking at it ,and is in the camp of i am alright jack feck you. And yet the right wing papers and media trolls from day one of this Tory created circus would have us believe that an old man like Corbyn is the real threat to Britain and the stability and security of the ordinary working man and woman of the UK. Yet when the vote to leave was held the Tory prime minister and many of his cabinet campaigned passionately to remain and yet the Labour leader who has been a life long eurosceptic was nowhere to be seen. things do not always fit your predetermined rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, jake said: Yeah....... Trouble is a lot of those you wish to suffer if we are to believe the scaremongering are already in that place . Anyway I can see you have been properly informed in the run up to your vote. Then you would know that the remain campaign was backed by both government and a slightly larger % of the press. We are all influenced by many different things. Your attitude is like many . This is your post in headlines. Brexit voters are Racist Stupid and you hope they die. How amusing it is . I do not hope they die and please do not state opinions that were not given..just like Boris and co The rest of your post re headlines is pretty accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, CJGJ said: I do not hope they die and please do not state opinions that were not given..just like Boris and co The rest of your post re headlines is pretty accurate You hope they suffer. My headlines were like your post. Childlike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Just now, jake said: You hope they suffer. My headlines were like your post. Childlike You had a chance to retract and have failed to do so...there was no mention of a wish for anyone to die and you know it I hope they suffer in comparison to those who voted to remain by means of being first to lose their jobs for example and if it came to it 'brexiteers' should be first out the door if redundancies are caused by Brexit in any company. If the shoe fits.... One thing you can be sure of is those who voted to leave will not be taking the honourable stance by telling their workmates 'I helped cause this let me go first.' I'll feel sorry for their children of course (if they have any) but the individuals no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 52 minutes ago, CJGJ said: You had a chance to retract and have failed to do so...there was no mention of a wish for anyone to die and you know it I hope they suffer in comparison to those who voted to remain by means of being first to lose their jobs for example and if it came to it 'brexiteers' should be first out the door if redundancies are caused by Brexit in any company. If the shoe fits.... One thing you can be sure of is those who voted to leave will not be taking the honourable stance by telling their workmates 'I helped cause this let me go first.' I'll feel sorry for their children of course (if they have any) but the individuals no 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 9 hours ago, indianajones said: Another like minded, horrible tory. All one and the same. Bet me to it....another ^^^^ of the highest order. She is an absolutely, vile, loathsome . vindictive, snarling creature with the charisma of of a pack of hyenas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Tynieman said: Post of the year. Spot on. 👏🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 6 hours ago, annushorribilis III said: Who's "they"? If someone did come up with a "dubious" way to stop Brexit then ERG et al could also use the courts to decide. Just because it's "dubious" does not mean it's inherently unconstitutional and if the UK actually had a written constitution then there would be no need for this ( like avoiding the need to get a court order to make an advisory referendum legally binding on the govt) . You know full well that what BJ has done is unprecedented (whether it's unconstitutional we'll soon find out) and Bercow has not pulled his punches on the matter. I respect your point of view but not your bias : you simply indulge in whataboutery dressed up as debate. They? Gina Miller and Anna Soubrey. Pretty obviously I think from the context. And Bercow hasn't pulled his punches? Surely not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Interesting comment on Cummings, his motivation & philosophy. I'm not saying I agree with it . https://unherd.com/2019/08/dominic-cummings-is-no-chicken/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Zlatanable said: Nobody in Scotland needs to worry. Nicola Sturgeon is an honest politician, and will obviously achieve a Westminster block of a no-deal Brexit. Unlike Boris, she has always said what she 100% meant, and has never diddled us all. Diddled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Zlatanable said: Nobody in Scotland needs to worry. Nicola Sturgeon is an honest politician, and will obviously achieve a Westminster block of a no-deal Brexit. Unlike Boris, she has always said what she 100% meant, and has never diddled us all. Ah but, ah but, ah but, what aboot thaim. Pathetic! Edited August 30, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Deeds Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 There's not a majority in the Commons for No Deal. If the "Anti-No Deal" majority can work together then there is still time for legislation. Johnson is daring them to stop him but they're probably too factionalised to agree on anything. Sad days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Probably a good chance of May's Deal being put to the house for the 4th time sometime next week and it actually being passed this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cade said: Probably a good chance of May's Deal being put to the house for the 4th time sometime next week and it actually being passed this time. Doubt it. Any new deal would have to be No Customs Union anywhere in the U.K. /Backstop, with a favourable Trade Deal. The EU aren’t going to throw Ireland under a bus and the Brexiteers aren’t going to go for Mays deal, nor are the DUP. It would be political suicide for Boris to bring that back now because the Brexit Party will stand against them at the next GE and split their vote. The no deal Brexiteers have this in the bag now if they can see out the clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Deeds Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, Cade said: Probably a good chance of May's Deal being put to the house for the 4th time sometime next week and it actually being passed this time. Mmm, read a Guardian opinion piece hinting at this ... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/29/no-deal-brexit-boris-johnson-parliament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) Court of Session in Edinburgh rejects Interim Block. Lord Doherty has rejected a request for a temporary halt to the prorogation of parliament, which was brought forward by a cross-party group of politicians. Edited August 30, 2019 by Dannie Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: Court of Session in Edinburgh rejects Interim Block. Lord Doherty has rejected a request for a temporary halt to the prorogation of parliament, which was brought forward by a cross-party group of politicians. No surprise. The Queen said it was sound so it’s legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 My guess is this was always going to be appealed up the line regardless of the Court of Session result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: Court of Session in Edinburgh rejects Interim Block. Lord Doherty has rejected a request for a temporary halt to the prorogation of parliament, which was brought forward by a cross-party group of politicians. Has brought forward main hearing to Tuesday. Not a defeat for the campaigners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Justin Z said: My guess is this was always going to be appealed up the line regardless of the Court of Session result. Yep, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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