Jammy T Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 And he was having a right go at fans on the subscriptions thread. What a riddy. You know you can subscribe to FOH without being a season ticket holder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I wonder what the Boards view is - if that view is the castle I'll be raging!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Not interesting - sack the bored!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I reckon he's getting told he's away first thing tomorrow. It will be in the press just before lunch.It will be all over twitter by 0900 if its happening. I hope it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I saw the match but when condensed to clear cut chances Dunfermline were lucky Put it another way had we played really nice football at times as they did but had only two clear cut chances to them having the 5 or 6 we did everyone would be moaning to **** about that. That's the only point. Not a pro Cathro point, just an attempt at a pragmatic observation Whatever shred of credibility you had given your massive input on this board, you have lost with the absolute drivel you have posted above. Talk about giving someone enough rope to hang themselves - Man you have proven that point in spades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Does Mr T not go to any games?? Always has plenty to say mind. And most of it shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned Abroad Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I have backed Cathro since he joined us and on the basis of his signing of Berra and Lafferty felt genuinely excited about our prospects for this season. lenders although living abroad I bought 2 season tickets in the new Stand as an additional investment in the Club over and above my FOH subscription. However........after the last two games I feel totally disillusioned. For all his worthy ideas on how the game SHOULD be played, he just hasn't clicked to the fact that in the way the game is played in Scotland, the absolute priority is to be able to win second balls in midfield. That means having a bully boy like Scott Brown in there doing the dirty work. If he can't see that he should not be in the job, so time for him to go before any more damage is done. And if Levein can't see that he should go too......RIGHT NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Well, is today D-Day for Cathro? Bloody better be! Regards O'Neill, would be a great boost if he was to come in (which I highly doubt unfortunately) but I wonder if he could come in and still remain as NI manager until after the WC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltese jambo Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I have backed Cathro since he joined us and on the basis of his signing of Berra and Lafferty felt genuinely excited about our prospects for this season. lenders although living abroad I bought 2 season tickets in the new Stand as an additional investment in the Club over and above my FOH subscription. However........after the last two games I feel totally disillusioned. For all his worthy ideas on how the game SHOULD be played, he just hasn't clicked to the fact that in the way the game is played in Scotland, the absolute priority is to be able to win second balls in midfield. That means having a bully boy like Scott Brown in there doing the dirty work. If he can't see that he should not be in the job, so time for him to go before any more damage is done. And if Levein can't see that he should go too......RIGHT NOW. Honestly not having a go mate but what are his actual views on how the game should be played? I cant figure what hearts are trying to achieve during games for well over a year now and whenever I try and listen to cathro speak I get nauseous. Sent from my SM-J510FN using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltese jambo Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Well, is today D-Day for Cathro? Bloody better be! Regards O'Neill, would be a great boost if he was to come in (which I highly doubt unfortunately) but I wonder if he could come in and still remain as NI manager until after the WC? Hope it is goodbye for cathro. I can't wait to feel the relief when he's gone. Hope that feeling is doubled by also receiving the news that levein has gone too. I used to have a lot of respect for levein but no longer. Once he's gone I'll be happy because literally anyone in charge of the first team will Be an improvement...and with so many options for decent managers out there the only way is up Sent from my SM-J510FN using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 He will get the vote of confidence then 7 or 8 games into the season when we are adrift at the bottom he will get his books.Its the way clubs always seem to act unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Jambo Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Nothing new on BBC gosssip page. Could be a long week.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars plastic Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 You know you can subscribe to FOH without being a season ticket holder? You can be a hibs fan and subscribe if you wish. My point was that you're one of the emptiest vessels on here and you don't even go to any games. If that was me I'd be a bit more respectful to folk that do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I think the biggest shock is that Jammy T thinks we played pretty decent on Sat and Dunfermline were lucky They looked dangerous every time they attacked ffs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboron Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 More chance of it being Shaquille O'Neal Or maybe even Tatum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Sadly I don't think we will get the announcement today we are all hoping for, however if we do, I am sure if there is a statement from the club and Cathro does leave I'll bet there is mention (negativetley) about the support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Sadly I don't think we will get the announcement today we are all hoping for, however if we do, I am sure if there is a statement from the club and Cathro does leave I'll bet there is mention (negativetley) about the support. Pish If there is a statement it will be a 1 line press release as follows: "Hearts have parted company with head coach Ian Cathro by mutual consent, with immediate effect" Minimal fanfare. 9am please. It has to happen today, if they come out and say "The board has met and backs Ian Cathro 100%" they must know that it's the kiss of death. When a board has to meet to even discuss a manager, he is toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 If he's not parted company with us today we should bombard the club with e-mails asking why. The guys been nothing but a joke since becoming manager. Has to happen today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamos Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 You can be a hibs fan and subscribe if you wish. My point was that you're one of the emptiest vessels on here and you don't even go to any games. If that was me I'd be a bit more respectful to folk that do. Reading your post brought an interesting question to me Mars. If you don't go to games but were to say donate around 5k per year to FOH, who deserves more respect? There must be Hearts fans scattered all over the globe, that simply cannot go to games, but donate massively. Do they deserve less respect than say your average punter who pays ?400 a season for a ticket and makes a donation of ?10 per month to FOH? Seems to me everyone who passes a penny over to the club, especially after what the club and fans have gone through deserves equal respect. Add to that if they were Hearts TV International subscribers at around ?9 a month, that actually comes out at ?396 a season, so roughly the same as a season ticket. What exactly would the difference be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 If he's not parted company with us today we should bombard the club with e-mails asking why. The guys been nothing but a joke since becoming manager. Has to happen today. Indeed, I can't believe that he may be taking training today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboron Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 A cull would cost a lot of money which we probably don't have. If we did manage to fork it out, it would surely mean less money for players - unless we sold Walker and maybe Djoum. In short, possibly not the best idea. Not sure we'd get offers in for either, when they appear to want to play only 1 in 5 for Walker and about 1 in 10 for Djoum. If really lucky, we might get offered a pint of juice for both. Walker does have the added doubts with his injured knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJambo Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Everything seems to be pointing to giving him a little more time. Weak leadership from Budge and Levein. More time achieves nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Sadly I don't think we will get the announcement today we are all hoping for, however if we do, I am sure if there is a statement from the club and Cathro does leave I'll bet there is mention (negativetley) about the support.If that did happen then it would suggest they'd bowed to fan pressure and that they weren't happy in doing so. I'd find that hard to believe, that they were happy with results! Saying that, if no statement is forthcoming I think that would be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allystrachan Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Surely this has to happen today. We might not hear about it till tomorrow though. I'm sure someone said the players are off until Tuesday & you would think they would let cathro tell them first. I'm hoping to hear by 5pm tomorrow. If we haven't heard by then I will be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_bolton Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 You can be a hibs fan and subscribe if you wish. My point was that you're one of the emptiest vessels on here and you don't even go to any games. If that was me I'd be a bit more respectful to folk that do. How does going to games entitle you to respect? I've not attended a game since November 2015, yet I shell in around ?300 a year all in and often stay up late / wake up early to watch or listen to games. There are many reasons why people may not attend games. Financial, geographical, work commitments, family commitments, health etc. Having the cash, location and free time to go to a game doesn't make your opinion special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltese jambo Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Surely this has to happen today. We might not hear about it till tomorrow though. I'm sure someone said the players are off until Tuesday & you would think they would let cathro tell them first. I'm hoping to hear by 5pm tomorrow. If we haven't heard by then I will be disappointed.How on earth have they got today off? After that shocking cup campeign they should have been hauled in both yestetday and today at the crack of dawn Sent from my SM-J510FN using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sick.of.romanov Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 He's not going to be sacked, and he won't resign. There's been to much investment in the players he wanted for the new season and bringing a new manager in now with players he can't change won't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 He's not going to be sacked, and he won't resign. There's been to much investment in the players he wanted for the new season and bringing a new manager in now with players he can't change won't happen That's ludicrous! Nobody would ever get sacked if that was the case. And if we're struggling to come to an agreement to pay him off then put him on gardening leave and in sure he'll want away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphiwe Tshabalala Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Needs to happen today. No ifs or buts about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Waiting to get loan deal over the line and international break first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmeg Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Passing on what I've been told. I must stress I'm not itk. So was told that cathro has been asked to leave along with mcphee. Both rejected and asked to be sacked and asked for remainder of contract to be paid. Obviously we cant afford that right now. Cathro was there untill around 5 with his reps still there at 7pm. Things got heated between cathro and levein. Apparently another meeting today. The supporter I got this from is a st holder and a hearts man through and through so I know he wouldn't make it up. Whether his source is goo is a different matter. Anyway we will find out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 He's not going to be sacked, and he won't resign. There's been to much investment in the players he wanted for the new season and bringing a new manager in now with players he can't change won't happen None of the big signings have been Cathro. Berra was signed by levein Lafferty and smith were signed by mcphee. Cathro didn't identify them the main player he has identified has been Malaury Martin, says it all about his eye for a player. That leaves Smith-brown and Grezelak who in terms of significance are not even in the same stratosphere as the other 3 proven international players from Hearts point of view. A new manager coming in has a full month of transfer window now to add players. 2-3 more signings in the pipeline anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 You can be a hibs fan and subscribe if you wish. My point was that you're one of the emptiest vessels on here and you don't even go to any games. If that was me I'd be a bit more respectful to folk that do. Fans who attend deserve no more praise than those who subscribe to FOH or do all they can to tune in from afar at ridiculous hours and pay into the club where they can. You have this thing about how important your attendance is to away games but am i right in saying you stopped being a FOH subscriber for awhile ? Does that make you less of a supporter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.T.K Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 He's not going to be sacked, and he won't resign. There's been to much investment in the players he wanted for the new season and bringing a new manager in now with players he can't change won't happen If a new manager comes in today he'll have still have the transfer window to add a couple of his own players. Waiting would be worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 He's not going to be sacked, and he won't resign. There's been to much investment in the players he wanted for the new season and bringing a new manager in now with players he can't change won't happen I could get more out of these players. The point that the board have to realise is that Cathro is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Passing on what I've been told. I must stress I'm not itk. So was told that cathro has been asked to leave along with mcphee. Both rejected and asked to be sacked and asked for remainder of contract to be paid. Obviously we cant afford that right now. Cathro was there untill around 5 with his reps still there at 7pm. Things got heated between cathro and levein. Apparently another meeting today. The supporter I got this from is a st holder and a hearts man through and through so I know he wouldn't make it up. Whether his source is goo is a different matter. Anyway we will find out soon. Bollox. Your mate is a season ticket holder and Hearts man through and through? ... arent you??!! Aren't we all??? Brutal chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five to One Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Passing on what I've been told. I must stress I'm not itk. So was told that cathro has been asked to leave along with mcphee. Both rejected and asked to be sacked and asked for remainder of contract to be paid. Obviously we cant afford that right now. Cathro was there untill around 5 with his reps still there at 7pm. Things got heated between cathro and levein. Apparently another meeting today. The supporter I got this from is a st holder and a hearts man through and through so I know he wouldn't make it up. Whether his source is goo is a different matter. Anyway we will find out soon. If true, then surely no way back for either parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I think he will get a few more weeks to turn it round, but when we are rooted at the foot of the table he will be sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Passing on what I've been told. I must stress I'm not itk. So was told that cathro has been asked to leave along with mcphee. Both rejected and asked to be sacked and asked for remainder of contract to be paid. Obviously we cant afford that right now. Cathro was there untill around 5 with his reps still there at 7pm. Things got heated between cathro and levein. Apparently another meeting today. The supporter I got this from is a st holder and a hearts man through and through so I know he wouldn't make it up. Whether his source is goo is a different matter. Anyway we will find out soon. I'd rather AM stayed in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I doubt there will be a new manager until after the game against the rebels. If at all If a new manager comes in today he'll have still have the transfer window to add a couple of his own players. Waiting would be worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I think he will get a few more weeks to turn it round, but when we are rooted at the foot of the table he will be sacked If he's allowed to continue after failing to get out of a group where the top rated team finished mid table in the championship, you have to wonder at what stage the board say enough is enough, especially on top of his dismal record last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Passing on what I've been told. I must stress I'm not itk. So was told that cathro has been asked to leave along with mcphee. Both rejected and asked to be sacked and asked for remainder of contract to be paid. Obviously we cant afford that right now. Cathro was there untill around 5 with his reps still there at 7pm. Things got heated between cathro and levein. Apparently another meeting today. The supporter I got this from is a st holder and a hearts man through and through so I know he wouldn't make it up. Whether his source is goo is a different matter. Anyway we will find out soon. Cheers for posting I'd rather we kept MacPhee though especially with all our n Irish players - they might not Be happy if he left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Pretty convinced he will stay. Get the opening 3/4 games and then get cut. Major issue has to be who they bring in. Levein won't go down too well and they must know this. They also realise it will be highly difficult to convince any other sides to part with a manager just days before the season starts. Unless of course we have the fund for compo which I'm sure we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 None of the big signings have been Cathro. Berra was signed by levein Lafferty and smith were signed by mcphee. Cathro didn't identify them the main player he has identified has been Malaury Martin, says it all about his eye for a player. That leaves Smith-brown and Grezelak who in terms of significance are not even in the same stratosphere as the other 3 proven international players from Hearts point of view. A new manager coming in has a full month of transfer window now to add players. 2-3 more signings in the pipeline anyways. Tbf to Martin he has looked alright this season and he improved us when he came on Saturday (I know it wasn't a high bar). His set pieces made a difference. Not meant as any sort of defence for Cathro but Martin may actually be useful for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Cheers for posting I'd rather we kept MacPhee though especially with all our n Irish players - they might not Be happy if he left They signed for Hearts football club not Austin MacPhee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I think he will get a few more weeks to turn it round, but when we are rooted at the foot of the table he will be sackedhope not. A new manager won't come in, sprinkle magic dust and we'll be ok. He probably wouldn't avoid the same outcome as Cathro(here's hoping he would though) but I'd rather he was installed this week and got down to work sorting things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 None of the big signings have been Cathro. Berra was signed by levein Lafferty and smith were signed by mcphee. Cathro didn't identify them the main player he has identified has been Malaury Martin, says it all about his eye for a player. That leaves Smith-brown and Grezelak who in terms of significance are not even in the same stratosphere as the other 3 proven international players from Hearts point of view. A new manager coming in has a full month of transfer window now to add players. 2-3 more signings in the pipeline anyways. This all sounds like made up, conspiracy theory, wacko nonsense. The club have consistently said that the head coach is in charge of signing players. Maybe Lafferty and Smith were suggested and sounded out by McPhee but the decision to sign them clearly wasn't made by him. Levein just sorts out the contracts and deals with agents. He doesn't choose what players we sign. Every time we go through a bad phase, people trot out the Vlad-style conspiracies that Levein is behind our signings and Cathro is a puppet. Regular as clockwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 If they get a new guy in 4 games into the season the transfer window will be closed and any new manager would have to work with whats there and yet again the club could face big upheaval in January best to do this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 They signed for Hearts football club not Austin MacPhee. Yeh but they still won't like it And what if Lafferty takes a huff and has negative impact on rest of squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamorous Glue Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if we wait until after the window to empty Cathro. It would mean the board wouldn't have to make any money available to a new manager until January at the earliest. It also gives everyone a convenient excuse for not judging the new manager because he's working with Cathro's team. Write off another season and then repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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