More Tory lies

[JudyJudyJudy]

7 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Arch Tory ring piece is young Thomas. 

 

That's the mentality you're dealing with. 

It’s the disgusting jingoism which infuriates me as well as the arrogance . Hope they lose 

[The Mighty Thor]

3 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

I haven’t a clue who he is . But your not so favourite person replied to his tweet ! ( JHB) 😂 he does seem a plonker 

Fools seldom differ 😉

1 minute ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

It’s the disgusting jingoism which infuriates me as well as the arrogance . Hope they lose 

that kind of shite is as ingrained in them as sectarianism is with our cousins from the west. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Fools seldom differ 😉

that kind of shite is as ingrained in them as sectarianism is with our cousins from the west. 

She did challenge him though but missed out the war shite 

 

 

 

[Dazo]

9 minutes ago, maroonlegions said:

Look closer to home when it comes to actual facts.

 

Look closer to home to one of your own when it comes just not being in the real world of UNPRIVILEGED individuals like GPs .

 

And really look closer to home in this SMACK down reply to one of your own by a overworked and underpaid NHS GP.

 

Good on Esther McVey for having not one ounce of empathy or real understanding of her 12 years of TORY underfunding of the NHS.

 

For someone who appears to look intelligent in your posts you do look like one of your own.

 

 

       

Doesn’t actually answer the question though. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

Phuking hell!

 

Arsehole!

 

Him, not you...for once...

 

 

[Konrad von Carstein]

16 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

 

Thanks for taking it in the spirit it was intended

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

Thanks for taking it in the spirit it was intended

 

 

[manaliveits105]

1 hour ago, Dazo said:

Doesn’t actually answer the question though. 

Tory leadership contender Liz Truss says there will be no Scottish referendum ‘on my watch’
🥰

[Konrad von Carstein]

10 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Tory leadership contender Liz Truss says there will be no Scottish referendum ‘on my watch’
🥰

She looked at her watch....

[manaliveits105]

It’s a Tag Hoor 🙂

[Konrad von Carstein]

25 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

It’s a Tag Hoor 🙂

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 hour ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

She looked at her watch....

She's shiting herself already. 

[Gizmo]

On 26/07/2022 at 18:36, RobboM said:

 

Some kompromat? 🙂
 

Lebedev Jnr isn't fooling anyone with that hair colour. He'd make a good if preposterous Bond villain. 

In other news, Boris's (dis)honours list is likely to include Lubov Chernukhin, tory donor (£2 million which reportedly gave her monthly donor meetings with Johnson & Sunak). Her husband was Putin's deputy finance minister. 

All a big coincidence, just like his unsecured meeting with "ex" KGB agent Lebedev Snr, just like he coincidentally married the founder of "Conservative Friends of Russia". 

Even Stevie Wonder, God bless him, could complete this join the dots puzzle. 

Perhaps its time our tory fanboys were referred to as "Comrades". 

[Cade]

[Shooter McGavin]

“Archaic rules from 1919 mean working on rest days is voluntary”

 

What kind of a country are these c**** creating?

 

So now you should work 7 days-a-week, rely on foodbanks, either sit in your cold house with no lights on cause you can’t afford it, or go and sit in a newly introduced “warmbank”, don’t socialise with friends cause that equals poor budgeting apparently, spend all your money on petrol that sits at an all-time high price, just so millionaires and billionaires with generational wealth can add another couple of generations onto it?

 

A bunch of deviants and predators voted for and supported by docile, hard of thinking gimps.

[Shooter McGavin]

“UK has done less to ease burden of high petrol prices than other nations in Europe, figures suggest”

 

Another big decision they’ve got right…

 

https://news.sky.com/story/cost-of-living-crisis-uk-has-done-less-to-ease-burden-of-high-petrol-prices-than-other-nations-in-europe-figures-suggest-12663321

[manaliveits105]

Keep them coming comrades 

are you appearing at the comedy festival this month ? 

[Dazo]

1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

“Archaic rules from 1919 mean working on rest days is voluntary”

 

What kind of a country are these c**** creating?

 

So now you should work 7 days-a-week, rely on foodbanks, either sit in your cold house with no lights on cause you can’t afford it, or go and sit in a newly introduced “warmbank”, don’t socialise with friends cause that equals poor budgeting apparently, spend all your money on petrol that sits at an all-time high price, just so millionaires and billionaires with generational wealth can add another couple of generations onto it?

 

A bunch of deviants and predators voted for and supported by docile, hard of thinking gimps.

He isn’t saying they should work 7 days a week, just a Sunday should be part of the working week. Times have changed so I agree with him on that matter. No doubt we’ll hear how precious Sundays are and it is family time. Unless of course you throw money at them in which case the family time can go **** itself. 

[Nucky Thompson]

The World's cost of living crisis is ra Toaries fault  

[The Real Maroonblood]

28 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

The World's cost of living crisis is ra Toaries fault  

At least they're addressing the problem. 

[The Mighty Thor]

25 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

The World's cost of living crisis is ra Toaries fault  

The UK's cost of living crisis is very much the fault of the Conservative and Unionist government.

 

The PM even suggested as recently as October 2021 that fears of rampant inflation were unfounded.

 

Yet here we are a baw hair from double digits. 

 

Got the big calls right though. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

15 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

The UK's cost of living crisis is very much the fault of the Conservative and Unionist government.

 

The PM even suggested as recently as October 2021 that fears of rampant inflation were unfounded.

 

Yet here we are a baw hair from double digits. 

 

Got the big calls right though. 

[Nucky Thompson]

24 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

The UK's cost of living crisis is very much the fault of the Conservative and Unionist government.

 

 

So if the Tories weren't in government, the UK would be immune to the cost of living crisis that's happening all over the World 

Edited August 1, 2022 by Nucky Thompson

[Victorian]

Most of current inflation is not 'the fault' of the Tory rats.  Some of it is though.  Brexit has made things a fair bit worse.  The Tories have also failed to ease some of the effects of overall inflation in that they are not providing much direct support against forecourt fuel costs,  as well as other support measures.  There's a whole range of prices across many sectors that could be brought down through business being able to access better supply of labour.

[The Mighty Thor]

19 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

So if the Tories weren't in government, the UK would be immune to the cost of living crisis that's happening all over the World 

 

6 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Most of current inflation is not 'the fault' of the Tory rats.  Some of it is though.  Brexit has made things a fair bit worse.  The Tories have also failed to ease some of the effects of overall inflation in that they are not providing much direct support against forecourt fuel costs,  as well as other support measures.  There's a whole range of prices across many sectors that could be brought down through business being able to access better supply of labour.

Vic saved me typing it out. 

 

There's much that could be added to this, such as the transfer of huge amounts of public money to Tory donors which keaves the UK less able (or more likely unwilling) to respond to the CoL crisis. 

 

So aye It's deeper and it'll go for a lot longer thanks to Spaffer and the Junta. 

[Victorian]

9 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

 

Vic saved me typing it out. 

 

There's much that could be added to this, such as the transfer of huge amounts of public money to Tory donors which keaves the UK less able (or more likely unwilling) to respond to the CoL crisis. 

 

So aye It's deeper and it'll go for a lot longer thanks to Spaffer and the Junta. 

 

To be made so by tax cuts that creates economic demand that cannot be met by economic supply due to the labour market being hopelessly restricted.  The effects of which will force up prices and then the interest rate to attempt to reduce economic demand.  Thus removing spending power pounds from the people who haven't had much benefit from the tax cuts that caused it in the first place.  

 

The latest bright spark idea is to 'promise' the wealthy that inheritance tax is going to be reviewed,  reformed,  reduced.  Yet another way for wealth to be insulated while the poor freeze.

[Shooter McGavin]

2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

The World's cost of living crisis is ra Toaries fault  

I can’t remember anybody saying that to be honest?
 

The point is that the tories haven’t done enough to deal with it, which is literally what that article suggests.

 

But hey, you knew all that anyway.

[Shanks]

Just scooped a 10% pay rise (back dated to april) thanks to my union.

 

lovely stuff

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 minute ago, Shanks said:

Just scooped a 10% pay rise (back dated to april) thanks to my union.

 

lovely stuff

👍

[Shooter McGavin]

2 hours ago, Dazo said:

He isn’t saying they should work 7 days a week, just a Sunday should be part of the working week. Times have changed so I agree with him on that matter. No doubt we’ll hear how precious Sundays are and it is family time. Unless of course you throw money at them in which case the family time can go **** itself. 

 

What’s the incentive to work more if you’re getting your pay cut?

 

People aren’t going to accept getting squeezed forever and having their quality of life decimated.

 

It would be helpful if gimps like Grant Shapps realised that.

[Nucky Thompson]

1 hour ago, Victorian said:

 

 

 

The latest bright spark idea is to 'promise' the wealthy that inheritance tax is going to be reviewed,  reformed,  reduced.  Yet another way for wealth to be insulated while the poor freeze.

Inheritance tax does need to be looked at and it's not just the wealthy that's effected by it.

 

Normal people work all their lives paying into the system and then when they die the government take 40% of what's left over.

 

If you own an average property in Edinburgh, that's probably enough to take you over the threshold when you die 

 

 

[Cade]

It's not about "Sundays".

 

Not every worker has their days off on the same days FFS.

When you work a continental rotation shift your days off change all the time.

 

What's being argued is that when workers are asked to come in on their day off, right now they can say no.

 

Rottenfuhrer Shapps wants them to be forced to work on their days off.

Which will, of course, become the norm.

Which will lead to burn out and people quitting the job.
And which will lead to exhausted workers making mistakes and mistakes on the railways have a high chance of being fatal.

And which will only incentivise the railways to fire more staff; why have 7 staff when you can get rid of two of them and make the other 5 pick up the slack?

[I P Knightley]

2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

So if the Tories weren't in government, the UK would be immune to the cost of living crisis that's happening all over the World 

Compare the effect of the global CoL crisis on the more needy in the UK with that on the more needy in somewhere like France. Their government cares more about its population than 'ours' does. The Tories look after themselves and their benefactors while the rest of us can go swivel.

You can also add in that the UK's exposure to the CoL crisis is levered by the effects of the Tory-supported and wholeheartedly defended Brexit shambles and I think we can agree that, no, we wouldn't be immune - of course not - but without these ERG/Farage enabled Tories in government, we'd be in a hell of a lot better place.

 

4 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

If you own an average property in Edinburgh, that's probably enough to take you over the threshold when you die 

 

It's also very easily avoided by gifting said property to your dependents/beneficiaries in life; under a trust.

 

The principle of IHT sits right with me, if not some of the figures involved. I've paid for my house out of earnings which suffered tax at 40% so I feel it's a post-tax house. I don't feel it's right that the value is then taxed again at 40% when I'm dead and gone. However, if I'd inherited Knightley Towers from the 5th Earl of Knighleyshire and its value (plus the value of the art collection and the silverware) and the value over my ownership has gone up by £2 million, what's the harm in taxing that increase in wealth? The toffs don't like it as it isn't measured in cash but f'ck'em.

[hmfcbilly]

3 hours ago, Dazo said:

He isn’t saying they should work 7 days a week, just a Sunday should be part of the working week. Times have changed so I agree with him on that matter. No doubt we’ll hear how precious Sundays are and it is family time. Unless of course you throw money at them in which case the family time can go **** itself. 

Can't speak for avanti but scotrail drivers usually earn more for working a rest day mon-sat than they get for working their booked Sunday. Although Sunday isn't part of the 'working week' drivers and conductors get rostered to work set amount of Sundays a year. If someone else wants to work it for them they can have it off otherwise you are required to work it yourself. Most folk I know would consider Sundays being part of the working week, indeed the union has been asking for a decent proposal to be put together for years now but nothing has been forth coming. IMO Grant Schapps is trying to turn the public against the rail workers (bit like sturgeon did when scotrail butchered the timetable for 2 months recently). It's petulant, arrogant and also shows how out of touch the man is with reality (bit like his chum Boris was) unfortunately with Kier Starmer busy sitting on fences catching splinters or trying to please the extreme left wokey folk, it seems there is no real viable alternative to Tory power right now. I think schapps realised the tone of his tweet was not great as he kind of back tracked in the one he posted straight after. Damage had been done already though!

[WorldChampions1902]

45 minutes ago, Shanks said:

Just scooped a 10% pay rise (back dated to april) thanks to my union.

 

lovely stuff

Braw 👏

[Victorian]

40 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Inheritance tax does need to be looked at and it's not just the wealthy that's effected by it.

 

Normal people work all their lives paying into the system and then when they die the government take 40% of what's left over.

 

If you own an average property in Edinburgh, that's probably enough to take you over the threshold when you die 

 

 

 

It's a pretty high threshold already.  £325,000.  The vast majority of 'normal' people suffer no or small inheritance tax liability.

[I P Knightley]

7 minutes ago, hmfcbilly said:

IMO Grant Schapps is trying to turn the public against the rail workers (bit like sturgeon did when scotrail butchered the timetable for 2 months recently). It's petulant, arrogant and also shows how out of touch the man is with reality (bit like his chum Boris was) unfortunately with Kier Starmer busy sitting on fences catching splinters or trying to please the extreme left wokey folk, it seems there is no real viable alternative to Tory power right now. I think schapps realised the tone of his tweet was not great as he kind of back tracked in the one he posted straight after. Damage had been done already though!

Schapps-Green-Stockheath-Fox is an odious little shit who's trying to take employment T&Cs back to Victorian times when we should all be thankful that we've been given a job to do and we should do exactly what our overlords tell us to do, otherwise we get a sound thrashing and are grateful for it.

[BlueRiver]

4 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Inheritance tax does need to be looked at and it's not just the wealthy that's effected by it.

 

Normal people work all their lives paying into the system and then when they die the government take 40% of what's left over.

 

If you own an average property in Edinburgh, that's probably enough to take you over the threshold when you die 

 

 

 

There’s been an additional nil rate band for primary residences for some time now no? 
 

To be honest I think a lot of the problems with IHT could be resolved by lowering the rate to say 20/25% and closing a lot of loopholes regarding Trusts. 
 

I also think people need to remember that it isn’t the person that worked for it that’s being taxed anymore, it’s the transfer of that wealth to those that haven’t earned it. 

 

I really think if they closed a lot of the loopholes and the rich ultimately did pay it rather than the squeezed middle (who can’t afford the accountants or lawyers to organise their estate for tax efficiency) it wouldn’t be as negatively viewed. 

[BlueRiver]

4 hours ago, Victorian said:

 

It's a pretty high threshold already.  £325,000.  The vast majority of 'normal' people suffer no or small inheritance tax liability.

Correct. Considering that a nil-rate band can be transferred between spouses and the sheer amounts of other reliefs offered, hardly anyone pays it full stop. 

[Shooter McGavin]

It’s amazing how the righties on here buckle under some pretty straight forward, logical arguments.

 

They’ll ignore all of the above points of-course, and will be back to rear their heads at some point.

[Mikey1874]

5 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Inheritance tax does need to be looked at and it's not just the wealthy that's effected by it.

 

Normal people work all their lives paying into the system and then when they die the government take 40% of what's left over.

 

If you own an average property in Edinburgh, that's probably enough to take you over the threshold when you die 

 

 

 

You only pay inheritance tax on the amount above the threshold. 40%. 

 

So an average property in Edinburgh last year was £323,088. Non of that would be subject to inheritance tax but of course other items in addition would. 

 

But say your house was £600,000 and it went to children. Inheritance tax would be £40,000. Not bad. 

Edited August 1, 2022 by Mikey1874

[Footballfirst]

The government has awarded a new contract to a Penzance consultancy firm, Place Group Ltd, that has under £400k in assets, but the value is an eye watering £70bn over the next four years in respect of public services and their transition towards Net Zero.

 

Now it may just be that they will be overseeing the award of contracts up to £70bn, but it does seem a bit off the wall. 

 

Now that the information is in the public domain, I'm sure that there will be lots of people looking into links with the Tories etc.

 

This appears to be the contract

https://www.contractsfinder.service.gov.uk/notice/783fd5e3-50cd-49f6-b0cf-1cd48265fb33?origin=SearchResults&p=1

 

.... and comment from Cornwall Live

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/small-company-cornwall-awarded-giant-7407664

 

[Gizmo]

10 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

So if the Tories weren't in government, the UK would be immune to the cost of living crisis that's happening all over the World 

Immune - no.
Better prepared - most likely.
Idly sit by and watch working people get sent to "warmbanks" after their trip to their employer-run foodbank, in a G7 economy - absolutely not. 

[Shooter McGavin]

6 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

Immune - no.
Better prepared - most likely.
Idly sit by and watch working people get sent to "warmbanks" after their trip to their employer-run foodbank, in a G7 economy - absolutely not. 

It’s galling isn’t it.

 

Unbelievable what people will try to justify right now.

[Shooter McGavin]

Again, the righties will pop up, like a game of whack-a-mole, make a silly little argument, be met with a reasoned, logical and sourced argument, they’ll ignore it, go away for a bit, then come back a while later once they’ve conjured up another silly little argument in their silly little minds.

 

Rinse and repeat.

[Konrad von Carstein]

15 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Again, the righties will pop up, like a game of whack-a-mole, make a silly little argument, be met with a reasoned, logical and sourced argument, they’ll ignore it, go away for a bit, then come back a while later once they’ve conjured up another silly little argument in their silly little minds.

 

Rinse and repeat.

 

It's not even coherent points of view with some, it's one liner trolling or just nonsense.

 

Righties? Darren Grimes wannabes, Half of them don't believe the garbage they post or try to defend...

[RobboM]

1 hour ago, Footballfirst said:

The government has awarded a new contract to a Penzance consultancy firm, Place Group Ltd, that has under £400k in assets, but the value is an eye watering £70bn over the next four years in respect of public services and their transition towards Net Zero.

 

Now it may just be that they will be overseeing the award of contracts up to £70bn, but it does seem a bit off the wall. 

 

Now that the information is in the public domain, I'm sure that there will be lots of people looking into links with the Tories etc.

 

This appears to be the contract

https://www.contractsfinder.service.gov.uk/notice/783fd5e3-50cd-49f6-b0cf-1cd48265fb33?origin=SearchResults&p=1

 

.... and comment from Cornwall Live

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/small-company-cornwall-awarded-giant-7407664

 

Seriously? I'm a Penzance boy born and bred. This feels bizarre. The location of this company  "The Regent" was a bar/hotel/meadery back in my day but very close by was a nightclub called Club Zero .... I mean net zero/club zero ?..... I think there has been a massive cock-up!!!
 

[Shooter McGavin]

34 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

 

It's not even coherent points of view with some, it's one liner trolling or just nonsense.

 

Righties? Darren Grimes wannabes, Half of them don't believe the garbage they post or try to defend...

I think you’re right, the speed at which they abandon their own arguments would certainly suggest so.

 

Their posts usually tend to lack any substance, relevance or credibility too.
 

Just silly throw-away comments or opinions based on absolutely nothing at all, followed by about 3 laughing emojis.

 

 

[Cade]

Poundland Thatcher pledging to save £11billion by CUTTING the wages of ALL public sector staff (outside the south-east of England).

 

 

Levelling up, right enough.

[Shooter McGavin]

7 hours ago, Cade said:

Poundland Thatcher pledging to save £11billion by CUTTING the wages of ALL public sector staff (outside the south-east of England).

 

 

Levelling up, right enough.

Cut wages during the worst cost-of-living crisis since the 50’s…

 

Are people starting to click yet?